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    If you reform your manners then speaking to you will be no problem. But you have a deceiving manner about you. I believe that you can make great contributions, if only for your character. If you can work on this then I think much positive can come from it. And it will be a pleasure for us to scrutinize matters.
    I will be the first to welcome it. If you take one step, I promise to take ten. But let there be no vulgarity. You can point out where you think I was in error and I will work to rectify this. The ball is in your court. I am ready to play. What do you say about that. Then watch and see how I load you with answers to your questions that will rival any force. If you do decide we can work out a program how we can go about it inshaa allaah.

    I have not deceived anyone and I have not insulted anyone and I have not falsely accused anyone of anything.

    Do I need to repeat the same stuff again? Quote from al-amiyr

    It represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH ? ELOHIYM ? GOD wherein dwells His rational thought or ruwh (Spirit) represented by r.
    At this point in the state, ALLAAH was undefined and did not have a name. He was by Himself and only He alone knew of Himself. Besides His existence there was nothing; Besides the non existence of everything, even nothing had non existence. Both nothing as well as everything else were not anything but what He brought into existence - Praise be to my Lord, whose Praises are unconfined by any limits. Now the great fools of today want to declare His non existence, as if they possess the knowledge and the right to make such proclamations and declarations. But their days are numbered and their fates will be sealed if they do not hurry in repentance from this misguided ignorance.

    The mind of a god represented as an r. Interesting concept, I am sure.

    I have no idea who exactly the great fools are, who declare something, but I, as an atheist demand to be shown evidence for something, before I accept it as something I can believe.

    I do NOT declare anything, but ask.

    Let?s take a look at just this one paragraph and see what I would want answered

    At this point in the state, ALLAAH was undefined

    1a. What is ?the state?? Is this a sloppy, grammatical mistake or intended deception?

    1b. If Allah was undefined then who or what has defined Allah since? Wasn?t Allah always in existence and defined?

    ALLAAH ? did not have a name

    1. So what is Allah?s name today? Does Allah have one known name? Or is this confusing names with attributes?

    He was by Himself

    1. Does that mean there are more gods today? Are there maybe assistants?

    Besides His existence there was nothing

    1. How would any human know that? How can a human know at what time in the history of a god angels were created? Or maybe some other beings which are not mentioned which humans can?t grasp.

    non existence of everything, even nothing

    1. The non-existence of nothing would mean ?something?. Because then ?non-existence? must have existed.

    whose Praises are unconfined by any limits

    6a. What is an unconfined limit? What is a limit for praise ? when it is unconfined?

    6b. Does that mean that no matter how much this god is praised it makes no difference and has no impact? But then why would humeans and Jinn be created to praise if there is no confined limit?

    today want to declare His non existence

    7a. If something does not exist, how can you ?declare? the non-existence of this?

    7b. Is it reasonably possible to declare the non-existence of elves? No, I can just suspend judgement until I have evidence for their existence. The same goes for any claim concerning a god.

    But their days are numbered

    1. How do you know this? Do you have information the rest of humanity is not privy to?

    misguided ignorance

    1. What is that ?
      If you are ignorant you lack knowledge on something.
      If you are guided you have received information.
      In the case of misguided it is erroneous information.
      But in either case I have information. Something I am lacking if I am ignorant.
      So in my eyes ?misguided ignorance? is an oxymoron.

    I've just looked at one short paragraph. I wonder if someone who really knows Islam and the Koran would go over this with a finer comb what they would see....

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      Salaam,

      I would produce a sound with my tongue and then say to the child that from now on we are going to define this sound with a character. Then I will write A and say that he/she has to agree that from now on everytime he/she sees this character then he/she has to know that it represent the sound I made ealier. If he/she doesn't agree then he/she can choose a different character to resemble the sound I just made. And so on till we have for every different sound a different character.

      Salaam,
      Bender

      +salaam Bender

      Very good Bender! very good!
      What if the child said to you, "first show me where it is in the Qur'aan before I believe you."
      Now logically speaking, will that be helpful to showing the child how to read?
      This is what I am doing. I am teaching the people how to read the Book (al-kitaab) of ALLAAH. And they are learning. Do you really think that I will be so mad as to sacrifice so much to teach the world something that does not exist? I must be a mad man. What would the purpose be? What sense is there in doing it? Why are so many people learning it. Let us look a little closer at your answer.
      You answered and I quote,

      I would produce a sound with my tongue and then say to the child that from now on we are going to define this sound with a character.

      That is precisely what I am doing and more than that. I am saying that besides just a sound and a written letter it is also a symbol (aayah = sign/symbol of ALLAAH through which He created the Universe. I defined that when there was no existence, that 'state was called l.Look at the illustration below.

      Below is a graphical depiction of the Unmeasurable Infinite Void and its written representative symbol (aayah = letter) in Arabic, Hebrew, and English. Take note, they are all one and the same thing. In the next post we shall see how the R arises from the L and the three vowels a i u are born and what they signify inshaa allaah.

      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.L..001.1.png

      Now if you will follow the good advice you will give then I have no doubt that you will soon be Bending minds inshaa allaah.

      +salaam
      al-amiyr

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        Please proceed with more concrete material insh'Allah.

        Thank you

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          Please proceed with more concrete material insh'Allah.

          Thank you

          +salaam @GODsubmitter

          Thanks always for all the encouragement. I hope that you are well. I Have not seen you for the past day or so.

          Keep well and +salaam

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            +salaam @GODsubmitter

            Thanks always for all the encouragement. I hope that you are well. I Have not seen you for the past day or so.

            Keep well and +salaam

            Thank you for the reply.
            I am very well thanks to God, and I am always here, present, and following your expositions, although I do not post comments.
            With due respect, I hope you will not disappoint us all by delivering some kind of "mysticism"... Let me explain to me, mysticism is creating problems where none exist, and honest knowledge is resolving problems where they do exist...
            So, I hope you will deliver more concrete information, or knowledge, which will enable people who wish to learn it, to get ever always nearer to God Alone, insh'Allah!
            Thank you

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              Thank you for the reply.
              I am very well thanks to God, and I am always here, present, and following your expositions, although I do not post comments.
              With due respect, I hope you will not disappoint us all by delivering some kind of "mysticism"... Let me explain to me, mysticism is creating problems where none exist, and honest knowledge is resolving problems where they do exist...
              So, I hope you will deliver more concrete information, or knowledge, which will enable people who wish to learn it, to get ever always nearer to God Alone, insh'Allah!
              Thank you

              Thank you @GODsubmitter

              Have no fear! There is no mysticism here. I do not participate in it in anyway. You will not be disappointed. Just keep reading and learning. By the twelfth post things will become clear to you inshaa allaah.

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                Have no fear! There is no mysticism here. I do not participate in it in anyway. You will not be disappointed. Just keep reading and learning. By the twelfth post things will become clear to you inshaa allaah.

                Promises promises...

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                  If you did not read and follow from Post 1 you would not know what this thread is all about.

                  aL iL uL Laa Liy Luw aLLaa aLLiy aLLuw

                  aL iL uL Laa Liy Luw aLLaa aLLiy aLLuw

                  the Book (al-kitaab) Post 8
                  The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

                  You would do well if you would learn the following statement. It contains the essence of the Arabic writing.

                  The Arabic language of the Qur'aan which is a detailed explanation of the Book (al-kitaab) consists of an alphabet of 28 letters (consonants) plus one special letter called alif; 3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters, which can be extended into 3 long vowels using the 3 universal letters alif (a), waaw (W), and yaa? (Y); and two important diphthongs ay and aw. From here the entire structure of the language is build upon a well designed arrangement.

                  In the previous post I told you that we are going to look at the functions of the vowels. Let us begin inshaa allaah.
                  Remember it was said,
                  3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters,

                  Look at the following 13 letters ( 12 proper consonants and a special letter called 'alif). Attempt to memorize them.

                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet2.png

                  Take the l and the r. See below1

                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.lr.png

                  Read our important statement again.
                  3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters,

                  Look at our illustration of how the vowels are used with the consonants. My apologies for the large illustration.

                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.004.png

                  Let us demonstrate it in examples.

                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.li.liy.pnghttp//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.la.laa.png

                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.ri.riy.png http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.ra.raa.png

                  Let us look at what the vowels are in the Book (al-kitaab). They represent motions. In the next coming posts we shall deal with the various types of motions in the dimensions. Have no fear they will easily be understood. I just need you to get a little more literate inshaa allaah.

                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.v.a.pnghttp//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.v.aa.png

                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.v.i.png http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.v.iy.png

                  Study the above. We will soon see what happens when we apply these rules to the consonants. It is then you will be creating action words (verbs) that are found in the Qur'aan and in the rest of Arabic and other languages. When you read the words of the Qur'aan, they come alive in your mind and you automatically know their meanings. The further you go the deeper and more advanced it become. The Book (al-kitaab) has 73 dimensions of meaning.

                  To be continued inshaa allaah without StopS.

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                    To be continued inshaa allaah without StopS.

                    Asalaam alaikum brother al-amiyr
                    Brillient!!!!!
                    Jazakhallahu kheir

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                      So far so good. Pls continue.

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                        selaam aleikom

                        I am very interested in this knowledge. So you are saying that the Quran is like a motion picture which is called the kitaab that we can view with our minds. I will Pm you with some more questions.

                        selaam

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                          Peace and Greetings

                          I am beginning to get it. I have been reading your post over and over. My wife has also taken down notes and we are studying all the Arabic. What a unique and an amazing way to learn.

                          Please proceed!

                          Greetings

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                            Peace and Greetings

                            I am beginning to get it. I have been reading your post over and over. My wife has also taken down notes and we are studying all the Arabic. What a unique and an amazing way to learn.

                            Please proceed!

                            Greetings

                            salaam+ brother

                            If you continue, you will see much. In the next post I will show you why ALLAAH named Himself ALLAAH and how this is the greatest Name. This will be the first time that this would be made known publicly to the world. Follow carefully. May ALLAAH guide us all inshaa allaah.

                            +salaam

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                              +salaam Bender

                              Very good Bender! very good!
                              What if the child said to you, "first show me where it is in the Qur'aan before I believe you."
                              Now logically speaking, will that be helpful to showing the child how to read?

                              Salaam al-amiyr,

                              Why would the child ask that? I have never claimed to the child that what I am going to teach it is from The Quran. I was simply making a characterset with the child for different sounds so that we can communicate with each other without speaking.

                              This is what I am doing. I am teaching the people how to read the Book (al-kitaab) of ALLAAH. And they are learning. Do you really think that I will be so mad as to sacrifice so much to teach the world something that does not exist? I must be a mad man. What would the purpose be? What sense is there in doing it? Why are so many people learning it.

                              Teaching how to read The Book is different from what you are teaching.

                              Let us look a little closer at your answer.
                              You answered and I quote,
                              That is precisely what I am doing and more than that. I am saying that besides just a sound and a written letter it is also a symbol (aayah = sign/symbol of ALLAAH through which He created the Universe. I defined that when there was no existence, that 'state was called l.Look at the illustration below.

                              RED And this is were we disagree, unless you come up with ayaat(s) to support your claims ofcourse. But so far I have not seen any ayaat from you were this is stated and as far as I know there is not a single ayaat in the book we call AlQuraan were this is written.
                              Let me give you an example
                              421)
                              422)
                              423)

                              If you say that "3ayn - Sien - Qaaf" (verse 422) are the "letters" in which a inspiration comes (423), then I would agree with you. But you haven't give us such ayaats to support your claim.

                              So can you give us an ayaat were it says something like this
                              x1) L (Laam)
                              x2) This is how Allah created the universe.
                              or something similair to your claims.

                              BLUE You can define what you like but this is not how it works with The Quran nope
                              I define that "Alif" is a "button" and "Laam" means "light" and "Ra" is "absence of light".
                              With these 3 letters "night and day" is created. Do you agree? And are you willing to follow some more lessons from me?

                              Now if you will follow the good advice you will give then I have no doubt that you will soon be Bending minds inshaa allaah.

                              +salaam
                              al-amiyr

                              I am sorry but I as long as you don't back up your claims with ayaats from the book we call AlQuran, then it really has no value to me. Alhamdullilah He granted me also a rich imagination, so I am in no need to enter the imagination of an other person.

                              Salaam,
                              Bender

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                                ...I am gay).
                                Ok rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                                You seem obsessed with gays.

                                You asked me more than once whether I am gay via PM.

                                I think I need to set something straight I am not available for a date with you.

                                I am sure that if you look long enough on the internet you will find what you are looking for.

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                                  If you did not read and follow from Post 1 you would not know what this thread is all about.

                                  b

                                  the Book (al-kitaab) Post 9
                                  The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

                                  There was nothing but the infinite dark black matterless spaceless timeless void (emptiness). This entire state is referred to by ALLAAH in His book (al-kitaab) as the L.( Do not say the name of the letter which in English is called EL; which in Hebrew is call Laamed and which in Arabic is called Laam. Just say the sound LLLLLLLLLL. L represents the zero to infinite dimensional dark void (for now leave this for a later explanation because it is better to take it dimension at a time).

                                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.L.001.png

                                  Somewhere in the infinite dark/black spaceless timeless void ALLAAH made a point (represented by the letter b) that would represent the center of the totality; one(al-ahad) = the whole (al-waahid)
                                  This b would serve as

                                  • the Absolute with inner and outer infinite void.
                                  • the origin of what is to come.
                                  • the direction to which all must go.
                                  • the singularity of time energy matter space etc.
                                  • and above all it would serve as the House (bayt) of ALLAAH.

                                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.b..png

                                  To be continued without interruptionS inshaa allaah.

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                                    faruk
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                                    Salaam al-amiyr,

                                    So can you give us an ayaat were it says something like this
                                    x1) L (Laam)
                                    x2) This is how Allah created the universe.
                                    or something similair to your claims.

                                    Bender

                                    Salam Bender. Let Amiyr finish his thoughts and theory. Then we can scrutinise it with Quran. At least till now what he says , make sense to me. Read ayats 21-2
                                    Alif Lam Miym. That is the book , no doubt in it.

                                    So see ,something similar to his claims is indeed in Quran.

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                                      Continue al-amiyr. I am waiting for more.

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                                        Salam Bender. Let Amiyr finish his thoughts and theory. Then we can scrutinise it with Quran. At least till now what he says , make sense to me. Read ayats 21-2
                                        Alif Lam Miym. That is the book , no doubt in it.

                                        So see ,something similar to his claims is indeed in Quran.

                                        Salaam faruk,

                                        RED That is AlKitaab, not infinite mind of Allah & or the other claims he did nope
                                        I hope you see the difference.

                                        Anyway anyone can believe what he/she wants to believe.

                                        Salaam,
                                        Bender

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                                          Salam Bender. Let Amiyr finish his thoughts and theory. Then we can scrutinise it with Quran. At least till now what he says , make sense to me. Read ayats 21-2
                                          Alif Lam Miym. That is the book , no doubt in it.

                                          So see ,something similar to his claims is indeed in Quran.

                                          +salaam faruk

                                          If you stay on track you will begin yourself to see how lost humanity is. The time has now begun and the Book (al-kitaab) is now open for all the world who wants to read. He who has ears let him hear and he who does not let him not. Many are eagerly following. If they see nothing then nothing will be seen. Inshaa allaah and guidance from ALLAAH the Most high.

                                          +salaam

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