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    Bender
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    salaam Bender

    You have now invented an example that will not work and an incorrect understanding of what is being shown here. It is most unfortunate that you will turn away from this knowledge without first investigating and seeing it for yourself. I can no longer comment if you did not go through all the posts that I have numbered. Your fundamental error of your belief like nearly the rest of the Muslim world is that you think the Book (al-kitaab) is the Qur'aan. If you did not see the difference in the Qur'aan and you do not wish to investigate this matter then there is not much to say.

    salaam
    al-amiyr

    Salaam al-amiyr,

    RED No brother I do not have that understanding, there is a clear difference between AlQuran and AlKitaab, my understadning between the 2 is from 1037.

    Anyway I will inshallah not bother you anymore, it's clear that I have a different view then yours and a different approach of study.

    Salaam,
    Bender

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      Salaam Everyone

      Just today I read two defination of ALM according to Bender in Reply #72 on Today at 043645 AM above
      "Alif" is a "button" and "Laam" means "light" and "Ra" is "absence of light".

      Both are very sure of their defination which one should I chose follow?

      Salaam farida,

      O no, you misunderstood me.
      I just wanted to say that anyone with a bit of imagination, can make such claims but what are they worth without backing it up with ayaats from The Quran.

      I never watched the twenty twelve movie '( I thought it was just another Hollywood blockbuster -[
      I started taking interest in 21.12.2012 after reading your posts and had a feeling that you are draging it so that it will be avaliable for all after noon of 21/12.
      Ok should I watch the movie now afterall Hollywood actions are predetermined too I beleive that knowingly or unknowelingly all follow God's command.
      Salaam

      I hope I am not late, don't waste two and a half hours of your life with that movie. One of the worst disaster movies I've ever seen yes

      Salaam,
      Bender

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        Peace IronFist.

        I do not wish to converse with you, there is a misunderstanding of what I wrote from your part. I have nothing to say to you except

        Tell My servants to treat each other in the best possible manner, for the devil will always try to drive a wedge among them. Surely, the devil is man's most ardent enemy.

        Peace.

        And Peace good logic

        Well you did not promote that verse of the Quran earlier. "Tell My servants to treat each other in the best possible manner, ...."

        you did this, "...for the devil will always try to drive a wedge among them. Surely, the devil is man's most ardent enemy."

        I look at peoples actions. And there is no reason that you and al-amiyr cannot look into each others understanding and come with possitive results. I have been on many sunni forums and one will find the same type of arrogance. It just makes me aggressive.

        Thanks and peace.

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          Salaam farida,

          O no, you misunderstood me.
          I just wanted to say that anyone with a bit of imagination, can make such claims but what are they worth without backing it up with ayaats from The Quran.

          Salaam,
          Bender

          Salaam Bender

          I think this is what Al-amiyr said that most have their own interprations but that is only their uderstanding whereas ALLAH placed those signs there with a specific meaning and he is inviting us to find out for ourselves what exactly these signs stand for, and seeing that we pray to ALLAH(swt) for guidance so why are you not joining in ?

          I hope I am not late, don't waste two and a half hours of your life with that movie. One of the worst disaster movies I've ever seen yes

          I don't think I have stomach for that movie I was only trying to be light hearted like Al-amiyr as I really appreciate his sense of humour and immaculate manners and he has not once lost his cool, something that I find impossible on this forum.
          Peace

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            That type of behavior makes my blood boil very quickly and I do not want to loose it.

            &

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              No!No! farida......I am the one scared of ladies. They are electric elektro

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                And Peace good logic

                Well you did not promote that verse of the Quran earlier. "Tell My servants to treat each other in the best possible manner, ...."
                ....
                I look at peoples actions. .......

                It just makes me aggressive.
                Thanks and peace.

                And there is no reason that you cannot look into brother al-amiyr's response to who those mock him I am sure he can defend himself very well.
                Salaam

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                  And there is no reason that you cannot look into brother al-amiyr's response to who those mock him I am sure he can defend himself very well.
                  Salaam

                  salaam^
                  ............................................................................................ sun
                  If we do not keep ourselves cool, sun we might get affected by global warming. sun
                  ............................................................................................ sun
                  ^salaam

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                    Peace IronFist.

                    Quote 1-"I look at peoples actions. And there is no reason that you and al-amiyr cannot look into each others understanding and come with possitive results. I have been on many sunni forums and one will find the same type of arrogance. It just makes me aggressive.
                    "
                    Please remember what you said when you joined the forum

                    Quote 2- "I am a traditional Muslim but I am also tolerant of other Muslims. I have joined here for mutual friendly discussions. I hope that you are as friendly as I am and I hope to learn your views about Islam.
                    I would also love to share mine. I hope that that is fine with you".

                    Try and keep your claim.
                    Peace.

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                      If you did not read and follow from Post 1 you would not know what this thread is all about.

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                      the Book (al-kitaab) Post 11
                      The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

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                      And when ALLAAH took a covenant from those who have had The Book (al_kitaab)
                      to make it known and not to hide it...

                      Say thou "Have you seen.
                      If it were from the presence of ALLAAH and then you have rejected it?
                      Who is more astray than he who is in a distant discord?

                      Soon will We show them Our Signs (aayaat)in The Horizons (al_aafaaq)
                      and in their Souls/Minds ('anfus)
                      until It becomes manifest to them that It is The Truth (al_haqq).
                      Is it not enough that Thy Lord doth witness all things?

                      as-salaamu "alaykum

                      In this post I am going to take you into a glimpse of the Book (al-kitaab). Do not be afraid to wet your feet because we will soon be landing into deep waters.

                      Read again the initial introduction into the book (al-kitaab).

                      Lo and behold!

                      It ALL began by His wish and command and then

                      +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+

                      -1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

                      and from them

                      the whole invisible matterless one-dimensional number line

                      represented by Laam->

                      came into being in the infinite-dimensional L

                      -thousands and millions and billions of numbers one after the other without end.

                      (Laam-> in the L <->L containing the Laam-&gt

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.mmm.png

                      Remember the rules of the vowels in the previous lesson. Arabic has three vowels which is a - i - u. Pay again attention to the following.

                      "The vowels a - i - u represent motions.

                      a = going out motion (from the beginning point)

                      i = coming in motion (from the end point)

                      u = going out motion;coming in motion; going in and out motion (from any point)"

                      For now let us look at vowels a and i and leave the vowel u for another time.

                      Lets put this to the test with the consonants.

                      Remember that we are now in a one dimensional line, like this ------------------------------------------------
                      So if we say la then it simply means l--------------------> l a line extending but did not reach its end.
                      If we say laa then it simply means l---------------------------------------->l a line extending and having reached its end
                      Because the l is infinite (from our definitions) la would mean from the infinite beginning moving towards the infinite end.
                      And laa would mean from the beginningless infinity to the endless infinity. In other words a line without boundaries; continuous forever in both directions.
                      And because l represents the infinite dark matterless spaceless timeless void (from our definitions ) it is obvious that the meaning of laa should mean absolute nothing. And that is the meaning of the Arabic word for laa meaning no, not, or there is not. And there you have learned your first Arabic word from the book (al-kitaab) if you did not know it already.

                      The first law of Truth ALLAAH made His creation to proclaim was laa 'ilaaha 'illaa allaah = no or there is no god but the-God or no ilaah but allaah
                      The first word of this proclamation is laa (more details are required for me to take you into more details).

                      If we say la or laa we are always in the l. But how will we describe the whole l. In the Arabic language of the Qur'aan the definite article (the word 'the' is called al. An example the Book = al-kitaab al = the and kitaab = book. Then we would say 'the l' which in the Book (al-kitaab) would be al-l and because in Arabic the definite article is part of the following word we would say all (just like the meaning of the English word 'all&#039

                      al-la = the - from the infinite beginning to' --->
                      al-laa = the -from the infinite 'beginning' to the infinite 'end'.
                      The H in the Book (al-kitaab) means 'the whole of' like Huwa meaning He and Hiya meaning She; it signifies that which is between the two ends.
                      Look at our line again -------------------- to demarcate the limits we put it between two ls (els) l--------------------l. Did you see how it formed the H in English l-----l. We can use the English language also to teach the Book(al-kitaab).
                      So let us look at the word
                      ALLAAH

                      I will leave you with this one. See if you can define the word ALLAAH from the definitions given. I will come again back to this in future posts inshaa allaah.

                      When ALLAAH made the numbers from which He would create everything they first appeared in a straight line in the l as follows;

                      . . . . . . . . . .
                      They were named +n and -m ( for now let us just think of them as m)
                      -----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m

                      There was the l and then the first m forming l---->m which would read laam (and that is the name of l in Arabic as it is el in English.

                      If l to m is laam then m to l is miyl (remember the earlier rules of vowels).

                      l-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m or
                      laammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. forming the infinite straight line.

                      I hope you are beginning to understand. If there is anything let me know because it is not easy showing something to an audience one cannot see and hear and do not know what they know or do not know.

                      In the next post I will show how the numbers became circles and how m got its Arabic name miym. inshaa allaah.

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                        Interesting. Pls continue.

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                          as-salaamu "alaykum brother al-amiyr
                          I have read your last post more than once just to make sure that I am not deluded as I am a person who finds languages very difficult to grasp, but I was able to understand Arabic from the Qur?an as it is close to my native language Urdu (many root words are the same) Other than that I am just crap when it comes to grammar; also I don?t have much imagination. I was unsure how a person like me would be able to understand what you intend to teach us.
                          I think I can see the meaning now and I?m beginning to understand. Yet, at the same time, I?m so afraid but I think I can understand what is beyond our comprehension. Alhumdulilah!
                          I have a smile on my face and tears in my eyes. You are a brillient teacher and your reward is with ALLAH.
                          Subhanallah
                          wa-"alaykum-us-salaam

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                            as-salaamu "alaykum brother al-amiyr
                            I have read your last post more than once just to make sure that I am not deluded as I am a person who finds languages very difficult to grasp, but I was able to understand Arabic from the Qur?an as it is close to my native language Urdu (many root words are the same) Other than that I am just crap when it comes to grammar; also I don?t have much imagination. I was unsure how a person like me would be able to understand what you intend to teach us.
                            I think I can see the meaning now and I?m beginning to understand. Yet, at the same time, I?m so afraid but I think I can understand what is beyond our comprehension. Alhumdulilah!
                            I have a smile on my face and tears in my eyes. You are a brillient teacher and your reward is with ALLAH.
                            Subhanallah
                            wa-"alaykum-us-salaam

                            wa "alaykum-us-salaam sister farida

                            ALLAAH says concerning a people who begins to recognize the reality

                            When they listen to that which hath been revealed unto the messenger,
                            thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of their recognition of the Truth.
                            They say Our Lord, we believe. Inscribe us as among the witnesses.

                            If you follow nicely, you will see wonders contained in the Qur'aan. What I am teaching cannot be invented because it is the meaning of the letters that describes the reality.
                            Don't be dismayed-you will understand this language well and your maths will become great without much effort inshaa allaah. The hard part is finished. What comes next will begin to flow through the mind. I am going to give many examples that will make you love your lord more everyday inshaa allaah.

                            wa "alaykum-us-salaam

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                              as-salaamu "alaykum brother al-amiyr
                              I have read your last post more than once just to make sure that I am not deluded as I am a person who finds languages very difficult to grasp, but I was able to understand Arabic from the Qur?an as it is close to my native language Urdu (many root words are the same) Other than that I am just crap when it comes to grammar; also I don?t have much imagination. I was unsure how a person like me would be able to understand what you intend to teach us.
                              I think I can see the meaning now and I?m beginning to understand. Yet, at the same time, I?m so afraid but I think I can understand what is beyond our comprehension. Alhumdulilah!
                              I have a smile on my face and tears in my eyes. You are a brillient teacher and your reward is with ALLAH.
                              Subhanallah
                              wa-"alaykum-us-salaam

                              selam

                              This is most amazing. I would like to see how far it goes. Does it cover all the letters? Please proceed. I will comment in another post.

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                                "
                                Please remember what you said when you joined the forum

                                ...

                                Try and keep your claim.
                                Peace.

                                Peace (good) logic

                                Please tell me one thing; you call yourself good logic but where is the logic in your saying
                                The Master Hypnotist's effectiveness lies in the fact .... in one of you post above?
                                As I understand you support code 19 and brother al-amiyr said this about it Re Entering The Hidden Book - - - - - - - - - -> inshaa allaah ? Reply #9 on December 14, 2012, 072057 PM ?
                                Long before I heard about Dr Rashad Khalifa my father taught me forty years ago that . the Universe is based upon a nineteen phenomenon
                                My good logic says that if you are to only serve ALLAH than it would have made you very happy that someone else, and with good knowledge too, also supports code 19, but it seems you only want to serve RK.
                                Please tell me I'm wrong or what is the logic behind it.
                                Peace

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                                  Peace Farida.

                                  Could al-amiyr have said all he had to say by now? Why all this wait?

                                  God asks that we are straightforward. No hiding anything or beating about the bush?

                                  Al0amiyr himself said ,quote
                                  And when ALLAAH took a covenant from those who have had The Book (al_kitaab)
                                  to make it known and not to hide it...

                                  If he has something important to say , then get on with it so we can check it/ reference it with Qoran.

                                  I have no idea what he is going to say, but the Qoranic way is to make it clear and get to the point.

                                  But that is up to him. Others also have a choice whether to play the game and keep waiting or to ask him to make his point!

                                  Peace.

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                                    If you did not read and follow from Post 1 you would not know what this thread is all about.

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                                    the Book (al-kitaab) Post 11
                                    The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

                                    003187
                                    And when ALLAAH took a covenant from those who have had The Book (al_kitaab)
                                    to make it known and not to hide it...

                                    Say thou "Have you seen.
                                    If it were from the presence of ALLAAH and then you have rejected it?
                                    Who is more astray than he who is in a distant discord?

                                    Soon will We show them Our Signs (aayaat)in The Horizons (al_aafaaq)
                                    and in their Souls/Minds ('anfus)
                                    until It becomes manifest to them that It is The Truth (al_haqq).
                                    Is it not enough that Thy Lord doth witness all things?

                                    as-salaamu "alaykum

                                    In this post I am going to take you into a glimpse of the Book (al-kitaab). Do not be afraid to wet your feet because we will soon be landing into deep waters.

                                    Read again the initial introduction into the book (al-kitaab).

                                    Lo and behold!

                                    It ALL began by His wish and command and then

                                    +1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+

                                    -1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

                                    and from them

                                    the whole invisible matterless one-dimensional number line

                                    represented by Laam->

                                    came into being in the infinite-dimensional L

                                    -thousands and millions and billions of numbers one after the other without end.

                                    (Laam-> in the L <->L containing the Laam-&gt

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.mmm.png

                                    Remember the rules of the vowels in the previous lesson. Arabic has three vowels which is a - i - u. Pay again attention to the following.

                                    "The vowels a - i - u represent motions.

                                    a = going out motion (from the beginning point)

                                    i = coming in motion (from the end point)

                                    u = going out motion;coming in motion; going in and out motion (from any point)"

                                    For now let us look at vowels a and i and leave the vowel u for another time.

                                    Lets put this to the test with the consonants.

                                    Remember that we are now in a one dimensional line, like this ------------------------------------------------
                                    So if we say la then it simply means l--------------------> l a line extending but did not reach its end.
                                    If we say laa then it simply means l---------------------------------------->l a line extending and having reached its end
                                    Because the l is infinite (from our definitions) la would mean from the infinite beginning moving towards the infinite end.
                                    And laa would mean from the beginningless infinity to the endless infinity. In other words a line without boundaries; continuous forever in both directions.
                                    And because l represents the infinite dark matterless spaceless timeless void (from our definitions ) it is obvious that the meaning of laa should mean absolute nothing. And that is the meaning of the Arabic word for laa meaning no, not, or there is not. And there you have learned your first Arabic word from the book (al-kitaab) if you did not know it already.

                                    The first law of Truth ALLAAH made His creation to proclaim was laa 'ilaaha 'illaa allaah = no or there is no god but the-God or no ilaah but allaah
                                    The first word of this proclamation is laa (more details are required for me to take you into more details).

                                    If we say la or laa we are always in the l. But how will we describe the whole l. In the Arabic language of the Qur'aan the definite article (the word 'the' is called al. An example the Book = al-kitaab al = the and kitaab = book. Then we would say 'the l' which in the Book (al-kitaab) would be al-l and because in Arabic the definite article is part of the following word we would say all (just like the meaning of the English word 'all&#039

                                    al-la = the - from the infinite beginning to' --->
                                    al-laa = the -from the infinite 'beginning' to the infinite 'end'.
                                    The H in the Book (al-kitaab) means 'the whole of' like Huwa meaning He and Hiya meaning She; it signifies that which is between the two ends.
                                    Look at our line again -------------------- to demarcate the limits we put it between two ls (els) l--------------------l. Did you see how it formed the H in English l-----l. We can use the English language also to teach the Book(al-kitaab).
                                    So let us look at the word
                                    ALLAAH

                                    I will leave you with this one. See if you can define the word ALLAAH from the definitions given. I will come again back to this in future posts inshaa allaah.

                                    When ALLAAH made the numbers from which He would create everything they first appeared in a straight line in the l as follows;

                                    . . . . . . . . . .
                                    They were named +n and -m ( for now let us just think of them as m)
                                    -----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m

                                    There was the l and then the first m forming l---->m which would read laam (and that is the name of l in Arabic as it is el in English.

                                    If l to m is laam then m to l is miyl (remember the earlier rules of vowels).

                                    l-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m or
                                    laammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. forming the infinite straight line.

                                    I hope you are beginning to understand. If there is anything let me know because it is not easy showing something to an audience one cannot see and hear and do not know what they know or do not know.

                                    In the next post I will show how the numbers became circles and how m got its Arabic name miym. inshaa allaah.

                                    Greetings al-amiyr

                                    Very interesting knowledge. So you are saying that the Quran is both spoken language and mathematics at the same time. So besides the Quran letters being sound symbols these Quran letters are also mathematical matter-space-time symbols. Am I correct?

                                    Thanks

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                                      Peace Farida.

                                      Could al-amiyr have said all he had to say by now? Why all this wait?

                                      God asks that we are straightforward. No hiding anything or beating about the bush?

                                      Al0amiyr himself said ,quote
                                      And when ALLAAH took a covenant from those who have had The Book (al_kitaab)
                                      to make it known and not to hide it...

                                      If he has something important to say , then get on with it so we can check it/ reference it with Qoran.

                                      I have no idea what he is going to say, but the Qoranic way is to make it clear and get to the point.

                                      But that is up to him. Others also have a choice whether to play the game and keep waiting or to ask him to make his point!

                                      Peace.

                                      Peace good logic
                                      Everyone has their reasons and style to present what they have to say. That does not make one a Satan. As for me I like to take lessons in small doses to be able to absorb and refelect on it before going further. I hope you would not hold his style of teaching against him, and would just join in to understand at least about code 19.
                                      Peace

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                                        Peace Farida.

                                        That is fine by me, I was not judging anyone. I do not know yet ,either way, from what has been said so far.
                                        I hope al-amiyr is sincere and has some interesting things to say?

                                        Peace.

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                                          Peace Farida.

                                          That is fine by me, I was not judging anyone. I do not know yet ,either way, from what has been said so far.
                                          I hope al-amiyr is sincere and has some interesting things to say?

                                          Peace.

                                          Salaam good logic
                                          I am glad to read this and I am pasting here the sura you mentioned in your other post;
                                          They say, "How come no miracle came down to him from his Lord?" Say, "The future belongs to God; so wait and I am waiting along with you.",
                                          Peace

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