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    IAMOP
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    They are cool constructions and a logical system of thinking but I see nothing concrete and nothing inherently quranic about it as far as I've read. Well, please keep going. I hope this isn't going to end up like Code 19. But I don't really think anyone can bring something "new" out of the quran; as if to say that the quran was incomplete all these years. At best you might bring something out that few people saw before.

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      Peace al-amiyr! Well, i am catching up on this post, while waiting for the Arabic language posts to appear. And so i have a question about Post 6 of this thread It seems to me that the hard letters were actually the softer, and the soft letters were the harder of the sounds. Is this not correct? I do not understand if your post was the correct one, and what is the significance of this?
      Thank you for your reply in advance. peace

      +Peace Alleycats

      That is very good to catch up. The Entering The Hidden Book Thread will answer all the reasons why Arabic is the way it is and why the words have the meaning they do and so forth.
      For example;
      -1) why is the first letter called 'alif. Why is it made out of three letters and what do each signify? And over another one hundred questions.
      -2) why is there a dot under the second letter called baa' and for that matter why do the letters have dots and others not.
      -3) why is the a sign above a letter called fathah (from the word to open) and so forth.

      Those are but a dot of all the questions the Book (al-kitaab) answers when you can read it.

      As to what you said/asked,

      And so i have a question about Post 6 of this thread It seems to me that the hard letters were actually the softer, and the soft letters were the harder of the sounds. Is this not correct?

      Those are studies from linguistics. It is always beneficial to do some extra research over the internet. You will be quite amazed at what you will come to know about the human production of sound. I hope by tomorrow to upload a lesson in connected Arabic inshaa allaah.

      +Peace.

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        Salaam Bender

        I think this is what Al-amiyr said that most have their own interprations but that is only their uderstanding whereas ALLAH placed those signs there with a specific meaning and he is inviting us to find out for ourselves what exactly these signs stand for, and seeing that we pray to ALLAH(swt) for guidance so why are you not joining in ?

        Salaam farida,

        RED Because I am not allowed to follow conjectures. I miss from him verses from The Quran to proof his claims.
        Did you count how many verses he quoted in all his posts?

        Salaam,
        Bender

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          They are cool constructions and a logical system of thinking but I see nothing concrete and nothing inherently quranic about it as far as I've read. Well, please keep going. I hope this isn't going to end up like Code 19. But I don't really think anyone can bring something "new" out of the quran; as if to say that the quran was incomplete all these years. At best you might bring something out that few people saw before.

          salaam

          Let us analyze your statement for better clarification.

          1- They are cool constructions and a logical system of thinking
          2- but I see nothing concrete and nothing inherently quranic about it as far as I've read.
          3- I hope this isn't going to end up like Code 19.
          4- But I don't really think anyone can bring something "new" out of the quran; as if to say that the quran was incomplete all these years.
          5- At best you might bring something out that few people saw before.
          6- Well, please keep going.

          1- They are cool constructions and a logical system of thinking
          Can you elaborate on this;
          1- what do you mean by cool constructions?
          2- a logical system of thinking?

          2- but I see nothing concrete and nothing inherently quranic about it as far as I've read.
          Besides my already saying many times that we will soon be seeing something- why the above statement?
          Question
          Did I not give the reasons why at least two letters of the Qur'aan is named the way they are?
          1- laam
          2- miym
          That is just the beginning of the whole reality that will unfold to all who will not only read but also be guided to enter the Book (al-kitaab). On this forum alone I am in private correspondence with about seven members who are learning very well and understanding and they have expressed amazement what they are seeing.

          3- I hope this isn't going to end up like Code 19.
          what is meant by the statement? could you clarify?

          4- But I don't really think anyone can bring something "new" out of the quran; as if to say that the quran was incomplete all these years.
          Are you saying everything that was said before was all that there was ever said. How can such an opinion be expressed without knowledge.?

          5- At best you might bring something out that few people saw before.
          I have already said that this knowledge was handed down to me by my father from his father through 44 generations back to the prophet (S+). We are the historical Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy family stem of the prophet, one son after the other, and all great scholars who gave guidance to most of the khaliyfs who ruled the Islaamic world. There is none in the world who have this knowledge but our family and we teach it to the people and then they realize who we are. It is coming to the public now for the first time in 1400 years. Just continue to follow and read and then you will see what will appear before your own eyes. It is as simple as that.

          6- Well, please keep going.

          Thanks and I hope that you will make a study of what is presented otherwise you will have no idea what is being presented. It will just look like drawings. It is a program generating a virtual reality in the brain of the reality and the Qur'aan is the software to do it.

          I would like to ask you these two questions. If you can answer them then I know that you are understanding this presentation. If you cannot then please do not make such comments because it could be misleading and dishonest. Do you not think so?
          The Questions.
          From what I have presented;
          -1) Why is the letter l called laam and how did it arrive at its name laam?
          -2) Why is the letter m called miym and how did it arrive at its name miym?

          Thanks
          al-amiyr.

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            Salaam

            I am just perplexed at the response of some people who call themselves followers of the Qur'an. They boast about not following conjecture, yet I see them making no effort to understand what brother al-amiyr is offering them, for which he is asking no reward from anyone not even thanks. But to belittle someone , who is trying to teach you in the name of Allaah, expecting you to learn is simply disgusting.

            At first I was reluctant to learn from brother al-amiyr, but as I followed his lesson I've seen that he has taught nothing but the Quraan and I am so glad that someone here acknowledges the prophets rather than treating them like mere postmen.

            As I understand brother al-amiyr is not only on this forum, but is communicating with others too. Yesterday I PMed him to check that I was on track and he resturned an email explaining to me in detail. As a result 14 PMs have been exchanged between us since yesterday, yet brother al-amiyr did not stop or show any irritation. He just carried on until he felt I understood it to a level where I can do more work on whats been taught.
            I am not a young person. I have seen a lot in my life and I have not come across anyone so willing to teach, and with such devotion, despite not knowing me personally or getting anything in return. If only there were more people like al-amiyr who were willing to serve ALLAAH we would not be so lost and deluded.
            If you can't show any gratitute then at least do not say things that are hurtful and do not do justice to anyone reading your posts. Seeing what al-amiyr, despite all this, is delivering brings tears to my eyes If people, who claim to follow the Qur'an, behave like this then just imagine how people of the jahiliya must have mocked the prophet.
            May Allaah swt reward brother al-amiyr with the best of rewards! I do not have the words to thank him as he deserves but I pray to my creator to reward him for all his efforts and increase me in knowledge.

            Looking forward to next lesson Insha' Allaah.

            Salaam

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              Could you please explain what was the reason, and why, for what motive and cause did Allah create anything and said "be"?What was His intention and the purpose behind it, if it can be put that way?

              It is best that this is answered when we have gone a little further into the Book (al-kitaab) because of the nature and depth of the question and its correct answer.

              I am sorry if somebody gets offended, but, is this guy playing God that he is going to answer why God created His creation. God has never revealed to us the reason behind it. The most God has said is that He did not created us without purpose, or for playing. Now, this guy is going to tell us. I can wait to see the answer .

              Sorry al-amiyr, What are your sources? you speak as if you new the truth."(163) He has created the heavens and the earth in accordance with truth;....." Did God shared with you the knowledge of that inner truth.? or is it what you are saying only conjecture in order to get some praise by those who praise mere human beings.

              I have seen this idea of everything starting from a point then forming all frequencies of energy all to the point of how DNA is formed and codified. I don't remember if it was a taois idea, I could not find the video on you tube again. Anyway, if you are only philosophizing don't say that what you say is the truth.

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                I agree with you @farida, I've also noticed excellent pedagogical qualities, and I've never before encountered such a patient teacher as al-amiyr (although he releases knowledge perhaps little too slow for my taste... ) but perhaps it is to accommodate all sorts of audiences...)
                I admire his patience and pray Allah to reward him with best rewards, even for the future gifts of knowledge that are coming in near future.

                Inspired by the @al-amiyr's expositions, I stared lately to wonder which came first, the Kabbalah and Zohar based on Torah, or the illuminated Sufies with their 73 levels of understanding of each ayat... My latest inclination is to think, (as once member @Pazuzu wrote here) that Quraanic Arabic language might be the oldest, and probably the very first matrix of all languages there are ever since...

                I simply do not understand why do I still have so much resistance to learning Arabic, I find the guttural and melodic spoken effect pretty irritating, and wonder why even the most learned Islamic preachers shout and scream, and get so nastily "aggressive" in their lectures when they speak Arabic... laugh

                I pray Allah will grant me the grace to feel more inclined to learn that Sacred Language, alhamdull'Allah...

                Once more, thank you @al-amiyr.

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                  I am sorry if somebody gets offended, but, is this guy playing God that he is going to answer why God created His creation. God has never revealed to us the reason behind it. The most God has said is that He did not created us without purpose, or for playing. Now, this guy is going to tell us. I can wait to see the answer .

                  Salaam wrkmmn
                  If only you cared to read properly brother al-amiyr's reply. He is simply saying that the Qur'an will reveal the answer to this question. IOWs he is teaching( those who want to learn) how to get to the blue print.

                  It is best that this is answered when we have gone a little further into the Book (al-kitaab) because of the nature and depth of the question and its correct answer.

                  BTW I don't get offended. I've been on this forum long enough to see how many wanna be prophets or gods pop up here; all with their own fancy style. As for you, if you would only learn to read between the lines it would benefit you a lot to understand why muslims today are in such a dire state.
                  Salaam

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                    I am sorry if somebody gets offended, but, is this guy playing God that he is going to answer why God created His creation. God has never revealed to us the reason behind it. The most God has said is that He did not created us without purpose, or for playing. Now, this guy is going to tell us. I can wait to see the answer .

                    Sorry al-amiyr, What are your sources? you speak as if you new the truth."(163) He has created the heavens and the earth in accordance with truth;....." Did God shared with you the knowledge of that inner truth.? or is it what you are saying only conjecture in order to get some praise by those who praise mere human beings.

                    I have seen this idea of everything starting from a point then forming all frequencies of energy all to the point of how DNA is formed and codified. I don't remember if it was a taois idea, I could not find the video on you tube again. Anyway, if you are only philosophizing don't say that what you say is the truth.

                    Have you heard about the man who was called, "haliyf (halif) of the Qur'aan or The ALLY of The Qur'aan?" Answer and then I will answer your ignorant and blasphemous statements and other questions.

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                      ... . .post 12. Easy lessons for the mind to know the Book (al-kitaab).
                      The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

                      Why is the Qur'aanic letter m called miym?

                      003187
                      And when ALLAAH took a covenant from those who have had The Book (al_kitaab)
                      to make it known and not to hide it...

                      I have already explained much about the Arabic letter l called laam which is called el in English. Here is a little summary for you of the meaning of the letter l if you wish to catch up or refresh the memory.

                      Not anything
                      ONLY ALLAAH THE-ALL-ONE ALONE EXISTED
                      There was the infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless void of His Conscious Mind.

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.see.laa.png<--- The infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless void.

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.laam.png<--- Called the L. Do not say the name el or laam because it was unnamed. Just say it continuous L L L. Do not pronounce it with the tongue pressed against the roof of the mouth or alveolar ridge because the L touched nothing. The L is all dimensional. It is
                      L undefined and represents time (more to be explained inshaa allaah)
                      0L zero dimension
                      1L first dimension
                      2L second dimension
                      3L third dimension (This will all be explained dimension at a time inshaa allaah)

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.el..png<--- The English language symbol for L.

                      ALLAAH said, "be"
                      and the WHOLE REALM spiralled to a single point with inner and outer void.
                      And in the process, the axis of rotation (the alif ) was formed and the b was born and the d begun. (This lesson is not for now but keep it in mind)

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.see.b.origin.png<--- The beginning and totality of everything.
                      So 'somewhere' in the infinite dark/black spaceless timeless void ALLAAH made a point (represented by the letter b for object and the letter d for duration) that would represent the center of the totality; one(al-ahad) = the whole (al-waahid)
                      This b would serve as

                      • the Absolute Center with inner and outer infinite void ( the brain).
                      • the origin of what is to come.
                      • the direction to which all must go.
                      • the singularity of time energy matter space etc.
                      • and above all it would serve as the House (bayt) of ALLAAH wherein His Ruwh (Spirit) would rest.

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.laamalif.png<--- The axis of rotation of the creation. (will be fully explained inshaa allaah)

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.baa.png<--- The dot under the letter baa' representing the beginning and totality of everything. The Qur'aanic Arabic letter or symbol or sign (aayah) of beginning and bearer of everything. (will be fully explained inshaa allaah)

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.be.png<--- The English language symbol for b.

                      Don't worry too much about the above for now. They are going to be explained and you will fully understand with amazement when we will apply the rules to them.

                      Remember the title of this post?
                      Why is the Qur'aanic letter m called miym?

                      Remember in the last post I showed you the creation of the letter laam. Bear in mind that this laam is not the same as the l of the infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless void. The name of that l is called al and that l as I said above represents all dimensions. laam is one of the dimensions of the l and is the straight line dimension. Let is see why it is a straight line.

                      Remember what you learned about the vowels. What are they? Let me refresh briefly.

                      "The vowels a - i - u represent motions.

                      a = going out motion (from the beginning point)

                      i = coming in motion (from the end point)

                      u = going out motion;coming in motion; going in and out motion (from any point)"

                      For now let us look at vowels a and i and leave the vowel u for another time.

                      Lets put this to the test with the l consonant.

                      Remember that we are now in a one dimensional line, like this ------------------------------------------------
                      So if we say la then it simply means l--------------------> l a line extending but did not reach its end.
                      If we say laa then it simply means l---------------------------------------->l a line extending and having reached its end
                      Because the l is infinite (from our definitions) la would mean from the infinite beginning moving towards the infinite end.
                      And laa would mean from the beginningless infinity to the endless infinity. In other words a line without boundaries; continuous forever in both directions but starting at the beginning side.
                      And because l represents the infinite dark matterless spaceless timeless void (from our definitions ) it is obvious that the meaning of laa should mean absolute nothing. And that is the meaning of the Arabic word for laa meaning no, not, or there is not. And there you have learned your first Arabic word from the book (al-kitaab) if you did not know it already.
                      Let us apply i and iy = coming in motion (from the end point)

                      So if we say li then it simply means l <-------------------l from the other end coming towards you but did not yet reach.
                      If we say liy then it simply means l<------------------------------------------l from the other end coming towards you and did reach.
                      Because the l is infinite (from our definitions) li would mean from the infinite end moving towards the beginning.

                      When ALLAAH made the numbers from which He would create everything they first appeared in a straight line in the l as follows;

                      . . . . . . . . . .
                      They were named +n and -m ( for now let us just think of them as m)
                      -----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m

                      There was the l and then the first m forming l---->m which would read laam (and that is the name of l in Arabic as it is el in English.

                      If l to m is laam then m to l is miyl (remember the earlier rules of vowels).

                      l-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m or
                      laammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. forming the infinite straight line.

                      Now for the third timeWhy is the Qur'aanic letter m called miym?

                      If we study the world, we will see that there are basically three motions which are
                      -1) linear motion
                      -2) circular motion
                      -3) to and fro motion
                      all other motions are basically from the above motions.

                      How does the book (al-kitaab) define these?

                      We have already seen how the linear motion is presented laam = l-------------------->m. Let us have a look at a diagram.

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.line.laam.png

                      Remember that the black dot above is a number on the number line named m. Say the sound mmm and not the name of the letter.

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.circle.miym.png

                      After a straight line we get a circle. A circle is just a line curving back on itself. Lets look how it is made in the Book (al-kitaab). At point m, the m moves all around the center and comes back to its original point m. m<---------------------m or miym. Did you get that? m turns back to m and the result is a perfect circle miym.

                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.line.circle.laam.miym.png

                      I will leave you to work out the above. I hope to hear your answers so that I know that you are on track.

                      Can you give the definition of the following from our previous lessons?

                      -1) what is the 'alif?
                      -2) what is the laam?
                      -3) what is the miym?

                      I will be waiting patiently. You may also Pm me if you wish. And to everything I say say inshaa allaah.

                      To be continued inshaa allaah.

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                        And laa would mean from the beginningless infinity to the endless infinity. In other words a line without boundaries; continuous forever in both directions but starting at the beginning side.

                        How can infinity be a "beginningless infinity"? If there is no beginning, "it" can't continue forever, can it? If something is "beginningless", whatever that is, it most probably is non-existent.

                        What is an "endless infinity"? Is there a non-endless infinity? Is there and "endless finity"? Don't you think if you fabricate stuff or make it up you should define it?

                        What is "a line without boundaries". But then, what is a line WITH boundaries?

                        How can a line be "continuous forever in both directions but starting at the beginning side"? That is a contradiction in itself. If a line is continuous forever in both directions there can be no beginning side.

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                          I am sorry if somebody gets offended, but, is this guy playing God ......

                          What an ignoramus! Do you think I will praise a man who tries to play God. Are you doing that by saying what god did not reveal? Why don't you just open that brain of yours and check it for for yourself.

                          The crass assertions of the dumb is just bewildering. They can never stand face to face with the man and ask solid questions without throwing some insults and unwarranted statements.

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                            How can infinity be a "beginningless infinity"? If there is no beginning, "it" can't continue forever, can it? If something is "beginningless", whatever that is, it most probably is non-existent.

                            What is an "endless infinity"? Is there a non-endless infinity? Is there and "endless finity"? Don't you think if you fabricate stuff or make it up you should define it?

                            What is "a line without boundaries". But then, what is a line WITH boundaries?

                            How can a line be "continuous forever in both directions but starting at the beginning side"? That is a contradiction in itself. If a line is continuous forever in both directions there can be no beginning side.

                            Can you give the definition of a line?

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                              salaam

                              1- They are cool constructions and a logical system of thinking
                              Can you elaborate on this;
                              1- what do you mean by cool constructions?
                              2- a logical system of thinking?

                              2- but I see nothing concrete and nothing inherently quranic about it as far as I've read.
                              Besides my already saying many times that we will soon be seeing something- why the above statement?

                              3- I hope this isn't going to end up like Code 19.
                              what is meant by the statement? could you clarify?

                              4- But I don't really think anyone can bring something "new" out of the quran; as if to say that the quran was incomplete all these years.
                              Are you saying everything that was said before was all that there was ever said. How can such an opinion be expressed without knowledge.?

                              5- At best you might bring something out that few people saw before.
                              I have already said that this knowledge was handed down to me by my father from his father through 44 generations back to the prophet (S+). We are the historical Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy family stem of the prophet, one son after the other, and all great scholars who gave guidance to most of the khaliyfs who ruled the Islaamic world. There is none in the world who have this knowledge but our family and we teach it to the people and then they realize who we are. It is coming to the public now for the first time in 1400 years. Just continue to follow and read and then you will see what will appear before your own eyes. It is as simple as that.

                              6- Well, please keep going.

                              The Questions.
                              From what I have presented;
                              -1) Why is the letter l called laam and how did it arrive at its name laam?
                              -2) Why is the letter m called miym and how did it arrive at its name miym?

                              Thanks
                              al-amiyr.

                              Peace,

                              Let's go through your questions. They are cool constructions and a logical system of thinking - by that I meant you present a logical framework that thus far appears self-consistent. That is one step above Code 19 at the minimum code 19 is 100% arbitrary. If it's numerology then it is arbitrary and based on what is pleasing to naive humans (e.g. 21/12/2012 phenomena, Y2K, 666). If it is self-consistent then the most self-consistent a system can be is pure mathematics. So that is the answer to your questions 1 and 3.

                              Then as for your question 2, it's like you have opened up a sweet shop. And you say "in just a second I will give out free ice cream". But thus far you have given out yoghurt. Yoghurt is almost ice cream but it's not ice cream yet. The presentations thus far do not seem to need the quran for their own veracity thus it appears as a system constructed, with or without quran in the picture.

                              As for Q4 you will not bring any new GUIDANCE out of the quran. The text is complete in itself. Otherwise people on judgement day will have just reason to blame God for giving them incomplete guidance and we know that God is not questionable. Whatever you pull out of quran probably is not going to change the quran in any way shape or form. If people misinterpreted the guidance in times gone by, that is their fault. What prevails amongst muslims is this idea that the errors of the people of the past regarding quran, the mistranslations, were what God gave to them as guidance; a purely delusional belief. Just because they had no other answers does not mean those wrongs were correct "by default".

                              As for Q5 - well if that's true then your entire family sucks, thanks for destroying the planet and neglecting your duty to God. Unless you had some kind of incredible wise reason to conceal something that sounds like it would have drastically altered the course of humanity and prevented much of the evil we see today.

                              "and all great scholars who gave guidance to most of the khaliyfs who ruled the Islaamic world."

                              Well, tell your great scholars that they all majorly suck. Thanks for giving us Bukhari, we really appreciate it. So for 44 generations your family failed over and over again to "guide" the community and apparently this was your main job on Earth. I mean I know humanity is very failure prone but come on. Anyway ultimately it is God who is the teacher and God who guides. So I do not accept this idea of any single lineage claiming this although I can certainly accept it as the truth if it actually is. I have never seen God claim messengership follows lineage in the quran, not in a single place. And nowhere is this lineage mentioned in the quran, which you'd think would be quite a detail to keep in there.

                              2174 - Those who conceal Allah's revelations in the Book, and purchase for them a miserable profit,- they swallow into themselves naught but Fire; Allah will not address them on the Day of Resurrection. Nor purify them Grievous will be their penalty.

                              And more relevantly

                              3340 - Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the seal of the prophets and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

                              Even as this, I will give you the benefit of the doubt. There are many unknown unknowns, our brains only see what they can see. The system presented sounds good but I have yet to see solid substance that binds it directly into the quran. It still remains hypothetical. If you say you will bring it then bring it, I'll be happy to see it. And especially if it is of genuine substance.

                              So to answer your final questions, I'll explain your circle as I understand it a = origin, to begin, lam = projection of the line (radial), to move forwards/advance, meem = rotation of the line closing it onto itself, thus we have a circle. So let me guess, you're going to tell us perhaps that 'ra' signifies revolution of a 2d surface on its axis to create a 3D solid? That's the logical progression. It is teetering on the line between fancy dress and truly logical systems but God is teacher of man and to God we yield.

                              peace

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                                Sorry, my last post of al-amiyrs quote was a mistake, due to lack of experience on how to include a quote within a post.

                                By the way, although i think most questions have intrinsic merit, the shrieking tones, disparaging remarks, and the stupid gay jokes, are not contributing to our quality of life here. And members calling other members "mushrik" makes me want to yuck

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                                  Sorry, my last post of al-amiyrs quote was a mistake, due to lack of experience on how to include a quote within a post.

                                  By the way, although i think most questions have intrinsic merit, the shrieking tones, disparaging remarks, and the stupid gay jokes, are not contributing to our quality of life here. And members calling other members "mushrik" makes me want to yuck

                                  I agree with you. handshake

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                                    Can you give the definition of a line?

                                    http//lmgtfy.com/?q=definition+line

                                    Can you answer any of MY questions now?

                                    Or are you just playing the smart Alec here?

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                                      If we study the world, we will see that there are basically three motions which are
                                      -1) linear motion
                                      -2) circular motion
                                      -3) to and fro motion
                                      all other motions are basically from the above motions.

                                      Greetings

                                      What would be the to and fro motion? Could you give graphic examples of this?

                                      Thanks

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                                        as-salaamu "alaykum

                                        I hope to post another important post later inshaa allaah. During the past three days I spent much time with about seven members of the forum to give personal guidance to understand correctly what have been said so far. Here is my assessment so far for the benefit of others.

                                        Most did not have the exact idea and so they did not get the full picture. Within an average of seven private communications everything was understood what was said so far. It will now be easy for them to follow to the next level smoothly inshaa allaah.
                                        I would advise you to pm me just to check if you are on track. I have taught over a thousand persons the basics of the Book (al-kitaab) during the past two years and I know all the problems they may face. It is strange that so many times those who think they know are out performed by those who think they will not know. Don't under or over estimate yourself and run the risk of being left behind inshaa allaah.

                                        As I said, I hope to post another important lesson going into the book (al-kitaab) later inshaa allaah.

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                                          AL = EL

                                          Post13 An assessment of your knowledge into the Book (al-kitaab) thus far.
                                          The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

                                          Level One of Seventy Three.

                                          Assessment.
                                          If you cannot answer the following questions then you will have no idea what this Book (al-kitaab) is about and then it would be useless for you to continue reading because you will simply not understand anything. I am most willing to answer all questions and I will seldom close my eyes before I had given some reply. But do not expect that I must answer the questions if you have not studied the subject.
                                          If you did not read and study these posts so far, you might be inclined to ask questions and make statements that appear logical but in fact they are misleading and will divert you as well as others who read your out of context statements. For now, do yourself the service to read the previous posts which I have numbered. You cannot miss them. Just start from the beginning and work your way until you arrived back at this post inshaa allaah ( If ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).

                                          003187
                                          And when ALLAAH took a covenant from those who have had The Book (al_kitaab)
                                          to make it known and not to hide it...

                                          Important questions for you to answer in order for you to proceed.
                                          1)- do you know what the l represents?
                                          2)- do you know what the three short vowels a - i - u represent? And can you give a graphical representation of
                                          each?
                                          3)- do you know what the three long vowels aa - iy - uw represent? And can you give a graphical representation
                                          of each?
                                          4)- do you know what the m represents? And can you give a graphical representation of an example of it?
                                          5)- do you know what laam is and how it was created from the knowledge of the above rules? Can you give a
                                          graphical representation to demonstrate it?
                                          6)- do you know what miym is and how it was created from the knowledge of the above rules? Can you give a
                                          graphical representation to demonstrate it?

                                          Do you understand the following concepts?
                                          1)- unification of dimensions?
                                          2)- the zero dimension?
                                          3)- the first dimension?
                                          4)- the second dimension?
                                          5)- the third dimension?
                                          6)- the time dimension (this will be explained in post 15 inshaa allaah.
                                          Do not now ask questions about the one time dimension and nine spacial dimensions of M-Theory because we will work our way to that point progressively through the Book (al-kitaab) inshaa allaah.

                                          Here is a post I posted on 13 December 2012 for another member who expressed the possibility of wanting to learn the book (al-kitaab). Reflect over it!

                                          My Request
                                          First Reply
                                          salaam+ one-9-one

                                          You can most surely take up the 'challenge'. In fact, there is no challenge at all. You just follow and read what is being said and when you have understood what was said you will post a reply and say, "confirmed and continue' or whatever you wish to say. If what was said was not clear to you then state that. In this way other readers can have a better understanding and I will know that we are on track. Keep the following in mind

                                          1)- you do not have to be a Muslim to go into the Book (al-kitaab). In fact you can be the hardest anti-theist.
                                          2)- you do not have to have any prior knowledge to enter the the Book (al-kitaab) to fully understand - in fact you could be completely illiterate. You just need a brain that can think.
                                          3)- in fact, no scriptures are even required to enter the Book (al-kitaab). The Book (al-kitaab) is like a computer program (code like e.g. HTML) and your head and your mind can be compared to the hardware. The scriptures (like the Qur'aan, the Torah, the Injiyl, etc in the original language) are the software that executes the program.
                                          4)- The Book (al-kitaab) is the Writing (from Arabic kataba = he wrote (a writing) and the Qur'aan is the Reading/Recitation thereof ( from qara'a = he read/ he recited). The two go together.

                                          Read the following verse in the Qur'aan

                                          056077 - 080.
                                          And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan (qur'aan kariym)
                                          in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
                                          None touches it except the Purified Ones;
                                          a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

                                          Let us see what the meaning of the qur'aanic statement is
                                          a Noble Qur?aan (qur'aan kariym) in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).

                                          maknuwn
                                          1)- hidden, concealed
                                          2)- well-kept
                                          3)- hidden content

                                          kitaab
                                          1)- a piece of writing, record
                                          2)- letter, note, message
                                          3)- book

                                          So the qur'aan says;

                                          056077 - 080.
                                          And truly it is a Noble Qur?aan
                                          in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
                                          None touches it except the Purified Ones;
                                          a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

                                          a Noble Qur?aan( Reading / Recitation from qara'a = he read/ he recited). in
                                          1)- hidden/ concealed piece of writing/ record
                                          2)- well-kept piece of writing/ record
                                          3)- hidden (content) piece of writing/ record

                                          4)- hidden/ concealed letter, note, message
                                          5)- well-kept letter, note, message
                                          6)- hidden (content) letter, note, message

                                          7)- hidden/ concealed book
                                          -)- well-kept book
                                          9)- hidden (content) book

                                          To sum up the statement in the Qur'aan the following is derived;

                                          And truly it is a noble (kariym) reading/recitation (qur'aan) in a hidden/concealed/well kept/hidden(content) writing/piece of writing/note/message/book (kitaab) that none can touch/be in contact with/violate (massa) except for the purified/immaculate (muTaHHaruwn)ones.

                                          What is meant by secret writing is the meaning of all the letters of the alphabet. The qur'aan is written in this writing that the world can read but they have no idea what these letters represent. If you should ask the world the following question,
                                          "What is the meaning of A_L_M ('Alif_LaaM_MiyM) none in the world would know because they do not know the meanings of these letters. These letters and others are the 'abbreviated' letters found at the beginning of 29 of the 114 chapters of the Qur'aan. There have already been about seventy explanations during the last 1400 years which have been mostly nothing but personal understandings with no convincing at all.

                                          To sum it up
                                          "The kitaab is the aayaat of ALLAAH (letters of the alphabet) that are all multi-dimensional-space-time-configurations through which ALLAAH brought into the existence everything. The knowledge of the meaning of these letters will unfold to you this great reality. If you know this program then you will know the Arabic language without even learning it just say the word and pass it through the program and you will instantaneously know the meanings of the words. You can put this easily through the test when we begin to enter the Book (al-kitaab). It does not end there but takes us through all of science and mathematics and explains why everything is the way it is including why ALLAAH called himself ALLAAH.

                                          Let me know when you are ready. I hope that there are others who will respond to my request as you have done.

                                          Thank you and may ALLAAH give us all the guidance inshaa allaah (if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).

                                          To be continues inshaa allaah.

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