Entering The Hidden Book - - - - - - - - - -> inshaa allaah

[good_logic]

Peace Space Traveller.

Thank you. Your point is noted.

God bless you.

Peace and friendship.

[farida]

Salaam al-amiyr,

I fully understand what you are saying but I fully do not agree with what you are saying.

It represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH ? ELOHIYM ? GOD wherein dwells His rational thought or ruwh (Spirit) represented by r.

Do you have any idea what you are saying here? The L represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH &

Salaam,
Bender

Salaam Bender

Here is something worth reading for you;
Gentlemen

The starting point of this discussion is my central thesis, which is

1. DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.

2. All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.

3. Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.

If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that occurs naturally, you've toppled my proof. All you need is one.

Perry Marshall
....
Let's review where we've been in this thread. I have said

(1) The sequence of base pairs in DNA is a code.

Much effort has been made to discredit this statement, unsuccessfully. This statement is fully and explicitly supported in virtually all of the scientific literature since the 1960s.

(2) All codes that we know the origin of come from a mind.

Much effort has been expended to discredit this statement as well. Assertions have been attempted that gravity, snowflakes, magma flows and the like are codes. But none accurately conforms to Shannon's communication model. Most of the examples cited do not contain an encoding system, and none contain a decoding system.

(3) Therefore DNA came from a mind.

The objection to this statement has been that the conclusion is reached inductively. Complaints have been lodged that inductive reasoning is inherently unreliable. But we do observe that the laws of thermodynamics and in fact the majority of known scientific laws are determined inductively and not deductively. If you wish to throw out inductive reasoning, then we can discard almost all scientific knowledge and start all over again and use rocks and sticks to make fire.

Thus we have, right here on the Infidels discussion forum, after more than 300 posts, robust evidence that life was intelligently designed.

It is not possible for me to persuade people to believe in God if they do not want to; that is not my job. But one can hope that some will follow the evidence, wherever it leads.

Perry Marshall
http//www.vina.cc/news/index.php/General/DNA-proves-the-existence-of-God.html
Salaam

[justamuslim]

salaam

I have already said that this knowledge was handed down to me by my father from his father through 44 generations back to the prophet (S+). We are the historical Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy family stem of the prophet, one son after the other, and all great scholars who gave guidance to most of the khaliyfs who ruled the Islaamic world. There is none in the world who have this knowledge but our family and we teach it to the people and then they realize who we are. It is coming to the public now for the first time in 1400 years. Just continue to follow and read and then you will see what will appear before your own eyes. It is as simple as that.

Thanks
al-amiyr.

As you claim that this knowledge was handed down from the prophet, what evidence do you have to support your claim?

Let's start with you first. Why don't you tell us who you are? Your full name? where were you born and when? Your place of birth? What is your background? When did you start learning of this knowledge? Who taught you this knowledge? As you claim that you stem from the prophet, what proof do you have of your claims? Historical documents and accounts. Name all of persons of your lineage who had the knowledge and transmitted this knowledge.

You mention that this knowledge was transmitted from one son after the other. What son of the prophet was it first transmitted to and who did this son then transmit this knowledge to?

Was this knowledge written down or transmitted orally?

As you claim that this knowledge stems from the prophet Muhammed, how did he get this knowledge? On his own or from God? Are you saying that Muhammed kept this knowledge to his family only? Why? Who did prophet Muhammed share this knowledge with? Why did he not make it public if this knowledge carries such significance?

And who are the great scholars who you speak of that had this knowledge and gave guidance to the rulers of the Islamic world? Can you please name them?

You say that this knowledge was kept a secret in your family but in other place did you say that they were persecuted for it? You have opened so many threads that I just want to be sure that I am not missing what you are saying and understand you correctly. What you are saying is that for 1400 years your family kept this knowledge a secret and only now you are making it public? Why did they keep this knowledge a secret? How many individuals have known about this secret in the family through the generation?

You said that you have been in other forums teaching your knowledge. When did you decide to go public and why now when your family has kept it a secret for so many generations and for 1400 years? What lead you to share your knowledge to others now?

Given how this knowledge has been transmitted from generation to generation for 1400 years, the descendants of the prophet are large in number. So how many of the descendants of the prophet have this knowledge? What other family members besides you have this knowledge? Or are you the only one? Are other family members also disseminating this knowledge?

Given that this knowledge that you have will change humanity, why don't you publish it in a book or create a website disseminating your info to ALL of humanity instead of going from one website to others? Do you have a website or youtube link? Have you or your followers published this knowledge? Why not?

In order to verify your claims, I am sure you wouldn't have problems providing the answers to the questions that I ask which are simple and straight forward.

You said that this knowledge is not your own and comes from the prophet Muhammed. Prove your claims with evidence which should be simple enough.

@farida and all those in support of al-Amyr, i am asking you all for the same. Can you corroborate and provide me with evidence of al-amyrs claim that this knowledge is coming from prophet Muhammed passed on from his son to the next down 44 generations?

I am sure you are all not blinding supporting his claims without verification and so I am asking for the verification that this knowledge is coming from prophet Muhammed.

[cleanfox5982]

I am sure you are all not blinding supporting his claims without verification and so I am asking for the verification that this knowledge is coming from prophet Muhammed.

Sister member justmuslim ;

Do you know what Muhammed (PBUH) was given ?

[al-amiyr]

As you claim that this knowledge was handed down from the prophet, what evidence do you have to support your claim?

Let's start with you first. Why don't you tell us who you are? Your full name? where were you born and when? Your place of birth? What is your background? When did you start learning of this knowledge? Who taught you this knowledge? As you claim that you stem from the prophet, what proof do you have of your claims? Historical documents and accounts. Name all of persons of your lineage who had the knowledge and transmitted this knowledge.

You mention that this knowledge was transmitted from one son after the other. What son of the prophet was it first transmitted to and who did this son then transmit this knowledge to?

Was this knowledge written down or transmitted orally?

As you claim that this knowledge stems from the prophet Muhammed, how did he get this knowledge? On his own or from God? Are you saying that Muhammed kept this knowledge to his family only? Why? Who did prophet Muhammed share this knowledge with? Why did he not make it public if this knowledge carries such significance?

And who are the great scholars who you speak of that had this knowledge and gave guidance to the rulers of the Islamic world? Can you please name them?

You say that this knowledge was kept a secret in your family but in other place did you say that they were persecuted for it? You have opened so many threads that I just want to be sure that I am not missing what you are saying and understand you correctly. What you are saying is that for 1400 years your family kept this knowledge a secret and only now you are making it public? Why did they keep this knowledge a secret? How many individuals have known about this secret in the family through the generation?

You said that you have been in other forums teaching your knowledge. When did you decide to go public and why now when your family has kept it a secret for so many generations and for 1400 years? What lead you to share your knowledge to others now?

Given how this knowledge has been transmitted from generation to generation for 1400 years, the descendants of the prophet are large in number. So how many of the descendants of the prophet have this knowledge? What other family members besides you have this knowledge? Or are you the only one? Are other family members also disseminating this knowledge?

Given that this knowledge that you have will change humanity, why don't you publish it in a book or create a website disseminating your info to ALL of humanity instead of going from one website to others? Do you have a website or youtube link? Have you or your followers published this knowledge? Why not?

In order to verify your claims, I am sure you wouldn't have problems providing the answers to the questions that I ask which are simple and straight forward.

You said that this knowledge is not your own and comes from the prophet Muhammed. Prove your claims with evidence which should be simple enough.

@farida and all those in support of al-Amyr, i am asking you all for the same. Can you corroborate and provide me with evidence of al-amyrs claim that this knowledge is coming from prophet Muhammed passed on from his son to the next down 44 generations?

I am sure you are all not blinding supporting his claims without verification and so I am asking for the verification that this knowledge is coming from prophet Muhammed.

as-salaamu 'alaykum justamuslim

I thank you for your concerns and questions. All your questions shall be answered with all the historical proofs and the documentation of my family history including back up from about 15 books just written about this family during the last 20 years. This is the only family line of The prophet(S+) who is known as AL- Qurashiy AL-Amjadiy.

As you have so many questions, I will work on them one by one with full details inshaa allaah. Remember that I value all of them and all of them will be answer inshaa allaah.

For now I will Quote to you what I have already quoted. It seems that you have not read it before. This has been published on many other forums as well.

The Most Illustrious Family Of Islaam Or That Of The Ages According to those who know.

There is a Family that has now produced 43 generations of learned men, one son after the other, and all of them great scholars of Islaam. They are linked ( by blood or as advisers ) in one way or another to all the Khulafaa' (Khaliyfs) in the history of the whole of Islaam since the death of the messenger of ALLAAH (A*)(S+). This family has produced more than 500 000 scholars over the one thousand four hundred years of Islamic history. It is said that this family is the "itrah (stem) of 'ahlu-l-bayt ( family of the Prophet's house) which generated the different branches. We are speaking about the " Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy " Family. The last great well known scholar of this family was al-bahru-l-muhaqqaq (universal scholar of knowledge) and al-"ilmu-l-mudaqqaq (scholar whose knowledge is meticulous) and shaykhu-l-"ilm (most learned among the scholars) and shaykhu-l-islaam (one of the top advisors to the Islaamic Ruler) and muftiy al-''arba"u-l-'a'immah (scholar and judge of all the Islaamic schools of thought) maulanaa (title) and mullaa (title) as-sayyid Abu Bakr Effendi Al-khushnaawiy Al-qurashiy Al-Amjadiy (1814 - 1880). He was the adviser to the last absolute Sultans and Khaliyfs of The Ottoman Islamic State or Empire i.e. Sultans and Khaliyfs Abdul-Majid(1839 - 1861) , Abdul-Aziz (1861 - 1876) and Abdul-Hamid (1876 - 1909).

Here is a short history of one great ancestor (12th grandson of Zayd ibn Ali the grandson of imaam Husayn grandson of the Prophet (S+) and the 25th ancestor of the above mentioned Shaykh of Knowledge.

Abu-NaSr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan Al-Ghaaziy Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy( c.1057 - c.1134 )

abuw naSr al_amiyr sulaymaan
was
one of the most extraordinary and exemplary men who ever lived.
He was a most gracious philanthropist,
a supreme commander,
and by the grace of ALLAAH (A*), a most successful man in everything he set out to do.
He was a great benefactor and promoter of knowledge and education
and above all
he was a man who, like his ancestors, loved and served The Lord
with all his heart, soul and mind.

To
the twenty-eight
generations of his learned descendants,
one son after the other,
over the next nine hundred years,
he was known as the father of help,
the man of good deeds, meritorious actions,
and
the shepherd of the flock of his future generations.

According to the family oral history, Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan was a direct descendant and inheritor of King Sulaymaan (Soloman), son of King Daawud (David) Kings of Judah through the line of Yuwsuf (Joseph) and Maryam (Mary), the mother of "Iysaa (Jesus).
It was said that he was the prophesied father (abu) of the Branch (naSr) which would bear fruit from the offshoot of Yassaa (Jessie), the father of King Daawud (David).
Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan was also the twelfth direct descendant of Zayd, the son of "Aliy Zaynul_"aabidiyn (grandson of FaaTimah(P+), (daughter of the prophet Muhammad (S+) and Haydaan,the highborn captured princess of India.
Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan was also regarded as one of the six Mu'lifiyn (Thousanders) who was to be born or because he was born at the dawn or rise of the next millenium.
It has been said that the seventh mu'allif (Thousander) would be a direct descendant of Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan.
The other Thousanders were Aadam (Adam (P+), Nuwh (Noah (P+), 'IbraaHiym (Abraham (P+), Daawud (David (P+) and"Iysaa (Jesus (P+) to whom Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan were all related genealogically.

Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan, because of his family inheritance, his skillful business foresight and his spoils of war acquisitions became an immensely wealthy man. In fact he became one of the wealthiest individuals of his day. It has been estimated that his personal fixed property alone amounted to over one hundred square kilometers. His net worth today would amount to billions of dollars.
Despite his enormous wealth, Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan lived a remarkably simple life and was very rarely seen in public. It was his usual practice to spend most of his time in isolation worshipping his Lord. All who met him were struck by his simplicity and were sworn to uphold his hidden family identity.

One day, Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan, called for an appointed day of assembly of the tribal Elders, other prominent Leaders, Scholars and Learned men. He told them that the time had come for him to give up all his wealth and use it all for the lofty cause of his Lord. He told them that all the moneys and proceeds of the lands must all go for the upkeep of the school that he had created and build in Siysaawah (near Shahrizur, Arbil or Sulaymaniyah in Iraq).

After having stated all the conditions of the school which among others are that-

• it shall be a school that shall be open to all who wish to learn.
  -it shall be a school in which all who wish to learn shall have the right to free education in it.
  -it shall be a school in which all who wish to learn shall have the right to free food from it.
  -and it shall be a school in which all who wish to learn shall have the right to free lodging in it.
  Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan stated that he had placed everything into the hands of Abul_muhsin Mullaa "Uthmaan Haamid
  whom he said was the most upright and learned of his sons
  and that he shall be responsible for the upkeep of the school and for the overseeing of the execution of all the stipulated conditions.

Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan also stated that after Abul_muhsin Mullaa "Uthmaan Haamid had passed on, the school shall be placed in the charge of the most upright and learned of the sons of his sons and so forth. And if it were to happen that they should become degenerate then it shall be placed in the charge of the sons of his daughters and so forth. And if it were also to happen that they were to go from bad to worse then it shall go to any of the most upright and learned of his scattered descendants who took up the course to uphold this eternal foundation and endowment .And if they should die out then it shall go on to the daughters of his daughters .And if they should die out it then it shall pass on to the nearest of the tribe and then to humanity.

In the end he prayed and sought refuge in The All_Mighty Creator ,Preserver and Destroyer, who sees to the end of time,
to protect his descendants from gradual corrosion and ultimate obliteration.

Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan had everything written down and dated Wednesday, 23 Muharram 523A.H (corresponding to 23 January 1129).
Then signed it
Abu-Nasr Al-Amiyr Sulaymaan Al-Gaaziy Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy (The poor man in need of The All_Mighty).

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Here is more about the school of this family that lasted over seven hundred years until it was finally destroyed in 1831 and the family again had to flee to another part of the world and with it soon to be demise of the visible Ottoman Sunni Islaamic Khilaafah.

During the last ten years members of The Turkish Government (including Prime Minister Erdogan and Foreign Minister Davutoglu) came to South Africa.One of the first things they requested was to go to the grave of The Shaykh of Knowledge As_sayyid Abdullaah Abu Bakr Effendi al-khushnaawiy al-Qurashiy al-Amjadiy (1814-1880). This was reported in both the South African and Turkish Media.The Shaykh of Knowledge is buried on the world famous Signal Hill that is the abdomen part of a mountain shaped in the form of a crouching lion which lies next to The World Renowned Table Mountain (now voted by humanity and declared a seventh wonder of the world and said to be the most wondrous mountain in the world). The history of The Shaykh of Knowledge, his ancestry and his coming to South Africa has been described by historians and other writers as amazing and crying out to be written. It all started like this when the Muslims of The Colony of The Cape of Good Hope wrote a letter to the Governor as follows.

A unique historical event
On 16 April 1862
The Muslims of The Colony of The Cape of Good Hope
Cape Town
South Africa
wrote a letter to the Governor as follows.
"As it is well known, 85 years ago some of Javenese islands fell into the hands of
The Dutch Government.
Our fathers were all tied up in chains, enslaved and brought here.
We were afflicted with suffering and problems;
the Honourable British Empire set us free from the slavery of the previous government
and gave us our liberty.
For that, we thank the empire for it's help and grace, and in case of necessity,
it is incumbent upon us to sacrifice ourselves for it's cause.
We once again express our thanks and gratitude.
It is obvious that each nation has to know and apply it's religion and way of life and practice.
But
we forgot our language of origin, the language of Javenese,
the books and treatises are all written in that language and therefore
we obviously need a teacher to read and teach them.
Since the situation is like this
it is requested to bring
a scholar-teacher from a Muslim country
in order to teach and train us."

16 Shawwaal 1278 (16 April 1862)
Signature
Muslim people
Cape of Good Hope

Omar Lutfi " A travelogue of my journey to The Cape of Good hope. p.7.
translated by Yusuf Kavakci

The Governor replied to the Muslims that it was not an easy matter for him and it had to be referred to Her Majesty Queen Victoria for Approval. ... The Governor's letter with the petition of the Muslims arrived at Queen Victoria's Government and it was discussed in parliament and recommendations were made. They then sent The letter to The Khalif of The Sunni World Sultan Abdul Aziz and The High Council of Islamic Affairs..................... It was Decided that the best person for the undertaking would be The Shaykh of Knowledge and The Shaykh of Islaam Abu Bakr Effendi(as he is mostly known). On 01 October 1862 The Shaykh of Knowledge left The Ottoman Islamic Khilafat in a ship from Istanbul bound for The Western World (it has been said that it was the first time in history that such an event took place between a Muslim government and a Christian one).
The Shaykh of Knowledge arrived in London on the 15 October 1862 and later at the palace of Queen Victoria where he met Lord Chamberlain who was waiting for his arrival. After spending one and a half months there he left on 01 December 1862 for The Colony of the Cape of Good Hope, Cape Town, South Africa.
The Shaykh of Knowledge arrived in Cape Town in the early morning of the 13th of January 1863 where soon all the prominent Imams of the Muslims came to welcome him. A photograph of the Shaykh with all the prominent Muslims leaders was taken and believed to be the oldest photograph of Muslims in South Africa if not its oldest dated in the country. The Shaykh of Knowledge did not wait long and within one month he set up a school of higher learning and had over 300 students out of a population of 17000. One of the first reforms he did was to encourage the ladies to return to wearing their modest Islaamic dress and then selected among the most intelligent ones among his students whom he then trained as teachers.He opened the first school of hifz and Arabic in South Africa as well as the first Muslim girls school and so forth. He trained many learned men and set up schools in many parts of Southern Africa. All this while he was learning to master the local language and English. The Shaykh also wrote the first book in the local language(354 pages) which was a mixture of Dutch and a smack of other languages which became Afrikaans, an Official language of South Africa. After the death of The Sultan and Khaliyf Abdul-Aziz, the Shaykh went back to Istanbul (1876) and one of the first things the new Sultan(Khalif Sultan Abdul-Hamid) did was to sign the printing of his book called The Explanation of the Diyn(Bayaanuddiyn). 1500 copies of the book was printed and it was translated in 1960 into English by a Dutch Scholar.It is said The Shaykh of Knowledge had more than 10 000 students all over the world. (Including Muhammad Dollie who went to England and found the first or one of the first Masjids there).
The Shaykh was born in Shahrizur Iraq in 1814 and started his education under his father aged two and had memorized the Quran by six. He studied first in the school set up in 523 Hijra or 1129 ACE. by his 25th ancestor known as abuw naSr al-amiyr sulaymaan al-ghaaziy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy. All the ancestors of the Shaykh were great scholars and many were advisers to those who had ruled as Khaliyfs of the Muslims . The family always lived and kept a low profile so as not to make known their full identity. As so many of the forefathers were killed beheaded and crucified. They were the secret family who went into hiding of amiyr Zayd ibn Ali ( son of Imam Zaynul Abidiyn son of amiyr Husayn grandson of the Prophet (S+).
Zayd ibn Ali was killed ,beheaded and crucified in a battle similar to the battle of Badr by the Umayyad forces.His body (skeleton) remained on the cross naked for four years and when the next Umayyad Khaliyf took over, he ordered that the skeleton be taken down burnt and then scattered to the wind over the Euphrates River. Amiyr Zayd ibn Ali's son yahyaa then took up the imaamat after him and was also killed , beheaded and crucified and his body remained on the cross for six years... (then imaam Ja'far aS-Saadiq handed it over to muhammad nafsuzzakiyyah and his brother Ibraahiym) muhammad was also killed ,beheaded and crucified. Then Ibraahiym took it up and he too was killed , beheaded and crucified. Like that the this branch (or stem of the Haashemites of Ahlul-bayt were despised by the people.Then the standard of imaamat and amiyrship passed on to "iysaa ibn Zayd ibn Ali(the forth son of Zayd ibn Ali). All over the world the government pursued Imaam amiyr "iysaa. After imaam amiyr "iysaa his son imaam amiyr ahmad took up the standard and went into hiding. He is known to history as ahmad al-mukhtafiy(the hidden). Then he fled to the land of Khashnaw(at sisawa in Iraq among the Kurds) and there he and his descendants kept a low profile and tried to attract no attention.It has also been reported that the ancestors of the Khashnaaw was give a ring by imaam zaynul Aabidiyn to rule over the territory of Khashnaaw. About 300 years later the family again surfaced when the twelfth descendant of Zayd ibn Ali arose by the name of the above mentioned abuw naSr al-amiyr sulaymaan al-ghaaziy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy and he founded his school.

This is a brief outline of the Family Tree of The shaykh of Knowledge

shaykh-ul-ilm and shaykhu-l-islaam -> abd-ullaah abuw-bakr <- effendi al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 1229 - 1297) / ( 1814 - 1880 )

son of

1

mullaa amiyr -> umar <- effendi al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 1192 - 1247 ) / ( 1778 - 1831 )

son of

1

Salaah-ud-diyn mullaa amiyr -> muSTafaa <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 1157 - 1224 ) / ( 1744 - 1809 )

son of

1

mawlanaa baabaa piyr -> sulaymaan <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-'amjadiy

( 1136 - 1199 ) / ( 1723 - 1785 )

son of

1

mullaa -> muSTafaa <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - 1167 ) / ( - 1754 )

son of

mullaa -> ibraahiym <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - 1152 ) / ( - 1739 )

son of

1

amiyr -> sulaymaan<- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 1068 - 1130 ) / ( 1657- 1718 )

son of

1

amiyr -> muhammad <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 1045- 1110 ) / ( 1635 - 1698 )

son of

1

aDaD-ud-diyn -> abd-ullaah abiy-zayd -><- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 1012 - 1077 ) / ( 1603 - 1666 )

son of

1

izz-ud-diyn -> muhammad al-faDlu qaddasa sirrahu <-al_khushnaawiy al_qurashiy al_'amjadiy

( 976 - 1039 ) / ( 1568 - 1629 )

son of

1

amiyr -> abd-ullaah <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 937 - 1003 ) / ( 1530 - 1594 )

son of

1

zayn-ud-diyn mullaa -> ahmad <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 900 - 967 ) / ( 1494 - 1559 )

son of

1

mullaa abd- ul- haq -> sulaymaan <- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 871 - 929 ) / ( 1466 - 1523 )

son of

1

abu-sulaymaan -><- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( 841 - 882 ) / ( 1437 - 1477 )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb DhuHuwr-ud-diyn-><- al-khushnaawiy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( ? - c.850 ) / ( ? - c.1446 )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-muHaymin -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ullaah -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ur-razzaaq -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-us-samiy -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-u llaah -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-waliyy -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ullaah -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( ? - ? ) / ( ? - ? )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb buTuwn-ud-diyn -><- <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( c.541 - ? ) / (c.1146 - ? )

son of

1

abuw-l-muhsin mullaa -> uthmaan haamid <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( c. 483 - c.555 ) / (c. 1090 - c.1160 )

son of

1

abuw-naSr al-amiyr -> sulaymaan <-al-ghaaziy al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( c. 459 - c.528 ) / ( c.1057 - c.1134 )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb iyqaaDh-ud-diyn -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-hakiym -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ullaah -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-baSiyr-><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ullaah-><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-khabiyr-> <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

Saahibu-l- ghayb abd-ul-baatin -> <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

mawlanaa -> ahmad <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

'amiyr abd-ul-majiyd -> muhammad abd-ullaah sulaymaan<- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

'amiyr abd-u-l-hamiyd al-khalaf->'ahmadu-l-mukhtafiy abd-ullaah muhammad<- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

(? - ?) / (? -? )

son of

1

'amiyr abd-uS-Samad as-salaf->"abdullaah yahyaa iysaa<- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

'amiyr-ul-mujaahidiyn haliyfu-l-qur'aan -> zaydu-al-shahiyd <- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

imaam zaynu-l-aabidiyn -> aliy as-sajjaad <- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

amiyr-ush-shuhadaa imaam -> husayn <- al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

khaliyfatullaah amiyr-ul-mu?miniyn -> aliy <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

abuw Taalib -> imraan <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

abd-l-muTTalib ->shayba <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

Haashim -> amru-l-ulaa <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

abdu manaaf -> al-mughiyra <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

quSayy -> zayd <-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

kilaab -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

murra -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

ka"b -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

lu'ayy -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

ghaalib -><-al-qurashiy al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

1

fihr -><-al-quraysh al-amjadiy

( - ) / ( - )

son of

Now this is my family history. I hope that answered something of your question.

[GODsubmitter]

@al-amyir said
"Peace to the nth power
... I will show you and you and all in this forum will also see it. There will be no uncertainty. I have always made it known many years back that I am going to make it known on the internet before December 2012 is out. I have made this known on many forums around the world. Thousands are waiting. Just be a little patient. You have placed this request upon me and therefore I have no option but to fulfill it. If I did not mention it here, then you might not have known about it. I will respond today to all your other points inshaa allaah."
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604775.msg316010#msg316010

(I take refuge in God from rejected Satan, in case this is a trick of virtual technology to lead us astray...)

[justamuslim]

Sister member justmuslim ;

Do you know what Muhammed (PBUH) was given ?

To answer your question the Koran.

[justamuslim]

Sorry that I have to come in here. Are you beginning to launch a campaign against al-amiyr? Why do you not let the man complete what he said he is doing. He has from the beginning said what he was doing. I am also here and am interested in his explanations. You say God guides. How do you know that God is not guiding him? Or are you getting guidance alone. Look how many people are reading his threads! It seems like this thread is going to be one of the fastest growing in this forum; a sure sign many are interested. And surely if al-amiyr don't deliver the goods, as he said he would, he will also go down as another charlatan. Is that not so?

No, I am not launching any campaign against al-Amyr. Listen, he came on board opening up various threads in this category making claims. I have made some observations about him, and his style. Posted my thoughts, comments, observation. This forum is for discussion, questions, sharing thoughts, opinions, evaluating beliefs and views. is it not? So by questioning him and asking him to back up his claims and pointing out what I have observed, I am now running a campaign against him?

Why doesn't al-Amyr create website or write book publishing which would reach audiences worldwide? Why not write his posts and then refer us all to his link? Instead of ministering to people here on the forum.

He made the claim that the knowledge he has is not of his own but comes from prophet Muhammed. Ok that is something quite serious. It is up to al-Amyr to back up his claim and provide evidence which can be corroborated. Don't you think? Listen, if I made a claim that I have some intelligence information from president Obama, would you all believe me without questioning? Or will you just run with the intelligence info?

about guidance
Like I said, people here on this forum and others have helped me to understand the Koran increasing my knowledge but it is God who guides people. I share my knowledge and as a result, my mom came to know about hadiths and now only follows the Koran. I didn't guide her. I did not deliver her from darkness. I just shared what I knew. Right now, i am in the process of writing to my uncle pointing certain things out to him. If he then starts following the Koran, it is not because "I" guided him. I think IAMOP said it better what I am trying to convey. I refer to her post.

The Koran, is a book of guidance for those who believe. Guidance is already there. The truth is already there. We all have the Koran with us. So what truth am I not seeing? Al-amyr made this claim that he has this knowledge that will astonish and deliver people from darkness seeing the truth, ok what does that mean? You have to follow and understand all his 20 posts to see this truth? Ok - what truth? Why not make himself clear?

He said and I quote " There is none in the world who have this knowledge but our family and we teach it to the people and then they realize who we are". Ok why doesn't he tell us who he is? Who is he?

He said that he has been on Shia and Sunni forums. I want to know if he is a hadith follower as he did quote Bukhari. Is he Sunni, Shia, Sufi? What is his aim or goal? For us to follow the Koran alone? Provide evidence that the Koran is the word of God?

[someoneoutthere]

Just popping in to say that I support justamuslim.

Al-aymir is not being as transparent as possible. Why can't you answer where you get your information from? It's not in the Qur'an, any of your alleged truths. Come right out and say there is information besides what is contained in the Quran, that Prophet Mohamed received to share with the public.

Salaam

[al-amiyr]

Just popping in to say that I support justamuslim.

Al-aymir is not being as transparent as possible. Why can't you answer where you get your information from? It's not in the Qur'an, any of your alleged truths. Come right out and say there is information besides what is contained in the Quran, that Prophet Mohamed received to share with the public.

Salaam

salaam

Have you read completely my two threads dealing with the hidden book? If yes I can respond accordingly inshaa allaah. I have no problem with any questions. The problem is if people have not read the material and then wants me to answer what I have already made clear then it becomes unproductive, especially when their manner in doing so is unbecoming.

salaam

[al-amiyr]

correction

[someoneoutthere]

I have read the material and did the mental and verbal exercises given. I've been following this thread since its inception and the thread you made before it. It still isn't clear why a Quran Alone muslim should accept your claims when they have no Qur'anic basis, like B represent a point in the 'void'. I get why people are interested, but the information presented here cannot be considered scripture based.

[al-amiyr]

I have read the material and did the mental and verbal exercises given. I've been following this thread since its inception and the thread you made before it. It still isn't clear why a Quran Alone muslim should accept your claims when they have no Qur'anic basis, like B represent a point in the 'void'. I get why people are interested, but the information presented here cannot be considered scripture based.

That is why it is being outlined. Someone who is illiterate but has memorized the Qur'aan will never find where the letter b exists in the Qur'aan. Likewise one who is ignorant of this knowledge will seek in vain where to find it. Don't reject it until all the proofs are given otherwise you will stand a chance of rejecting what ALLAAH himself has determined. All I can say is as I have already said before, that I am presenting the knowledge for you to see. It takes time and cannot be done overnight especially over a forum which includes my own limitations.

[alleycats]

Peace to everyone following this thread i typed in al-amiyr forums to my search window and came up with some search results. Check them out yourselves. Not the ones that say al-amir, but al-amiyr. Hope this helps with some recent background. Any other searches that provided background?? Peace to all.

[al-amiyr]

AL = EL

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R --

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Post14 -Towards a higher dimension of knowledge into the Book (al-kitaab).
The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

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Those to whom we have given the Book (al-kitaab)

• they read/recite/follow it-
  -have the haqq
  -truth
  -right
  -rightful possession
  -correctness,rightness
  -proper manner
  -duty
  of its reading/recitation/following.

Level One of Seventy Three.

There existed only the infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless empty void represented by the l of the letter laam in Arabic or el in English.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.L..001.1a.png

Lo and behold!

It ALL began by His wish and command and then

-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

and from them

the whole invisible matterless one-dimensional number line

represented by Laam->

came into being in the infinite-dimensional L

-thousands and millions and billions of numbers one after the other without end.

(Laam-> in the L = L containing the Laam-&gt

In the infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless empty void before the beginning of the creation, ALLAAH envisioned the numbers which appeared like tiny dots in a line without end.
(At this stage I have left out many details that will be discussed in the future inshaa allaah. For now just follow and visualize everything that is being explained).

You may also help your mind to comprehend that state by doing the following. Have a clean blank page (e.g. A4), a sharpened pencil and a ruler indicating the numbers from at least one to ten. Do the following!

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/pagepenruler.png
1)- place the blank page in front of you and think of it as the letter l.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.blankpage.png

2)- take the pencil and make a little dot in the center of the page and call it 0 (zero).
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.makedot.png

3)- take the ruler and let it lie flat on the blank page in front of you. See that the zero position of the ruler is just below the dot that you have made in the center of the
blank page.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.rulerondot.png

4)- starting from the center, take your pencil and draw a thin light line with the ruler across the page. Keep the length of the ruler horizontal with the side of the page
nearest to you.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.dotandline.png

5)- keep the ruler on the line and make dots on the page next to the numbers of the ruler from one to ten.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.tendots.png

Keep the following in mind.
1)- the whole page represents the letter l.
2)- each pencil dot represent a number and each number represents the letter m.
3)- the zero point represents nothing (0) and the one (1) represent the whole page.

What you have done above was to execute with pen on paper what ALLAAH has done in the infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless empty void before he began with the creation of the world. As our opening statement of the introduction says,

Lo and behold!

It ALL began by His wish and command and then

-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

and from them

the whole invisible matterless one-dimensional number line

represented by Laam->

came into being in the infinite-dimensional L

-thousands and millions and billions of numbers one after the other without end.

(Laam-> in the L = L containing the Laam-&gt

Keep your blank page, pen, and ruler always ready because we are going to be using them often to learn how to write the aayaat (signs) of ALLAAH and their meanings inshaa allaah. There is nothing complicated about learning this knowledge and is as easy as the human mind can think... .

You would do well if you would learn the following statement. It contains the essence of the Qur'aanic Arabic writing.

The Arabic language of the Qur'aan which is a detailed explanation of the Book (al-kitaab) consists of an alphabet of 28 letters (consonants) plus one special letter called alif; 3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters, which can be extended into 3 long vowels using the 3 universal letters alif (a), waaw (W), and yaa (Y); and two important diphthongs ay and aw. From here the entire structure of the language is build upon a well designed arrangement.

From the above statement we have selected the following.
1)- an alphabet of 28 letters (consonants) plus one special letter called alif;
2)- 3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters,
3)- which can be extended into 3 long vowels using the 3 universal letters alif (a), waaw (W), and yaa (Y);

1)- an alphabet of 28 letters (consonants) plus one special letter called alif;
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.small.png

Have a good look at those letters of the Arabic Alphabet of the Qur'aan. Besides the sounds and the shapes and the names they do possess, most important of all, is that they all also have intrinsic meaning that caused the letters to have their sounds and shapes and names. They are all multi-dimensional space-time configurations whose origin are the numbers of the Real number line through which ALLAAH brought about everything in the universe. In fact they are the aayaat (the signs and the symblols) which ALLAAH speaks about throughout the Qur'aan. They are what constitutes the writing of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Qur'aan is its Reading/Recitation. The Qur'aan is embedded in this writing of which its intrinsic meanings are hidden from the world and known only to the "itrah (stem) of the family of the prophet muhammad (S+) and now passed through the 44 generations of the Al-Qurashiy Al-Amjadiy family, one son after the other and all great scholars of Islaam. Don't deny what you do not know but investigate it because it is being made known to the world now for the first time in 1400 years inshaa allaah. It is not some illusion but is evidence as clear as the seeing of the eyes.

056077 - 080.
And truly it is a Noble Quraan (qur'aan kariym)
in a Hidden Book (kitaab maknuwn).
None touches it except the Purified Ones;
a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.

Here is a statement from the Prophet (S+) about the book (al-kitaab) passing through the stem of his family line until the end of our era.

Thirmidhi, Hadith 3788 Zaid ibn Arqam, narrated that the Messenger of God (SAAW) said,
Indeed, I am leaving among you, that which if you hold fast to them, you shall not be misguided after me.
One of them is heavier than the other
The Book (al_kitaab) of Allah which is a rope extended from the sky to the earth,
and my ("itrah) family stem the family of my house
and the two of them shall not separate from each other until they meet me at the Hawd (Pond in the after life), so look at how you deal with them after me.

I have quoted you the above so that you can be aware that such statements exist and it is up to you whether or not you will deny it. I will speak again in another thread, if the devils had not gotten their way by then to bring this to a close, about the journey of the Book (al-kitaab) through the history of a family throughout time as it is contained in the Qur'aan as well inshaa allaah. If you hold no value to the information above, then pass it so that nothing stands in the way of making known to the world this Book (al-kitaab) inshaa allaah.

Back to the Arabic alphabet of the Qur'aan which are also the aayaat (signs) of the Qur'aan as well as the aayaat (signs) of the Book (al-kitaab). To simplify matters for now, I have selected 13 of the 29 letters of the Qur'aanic Arabic alphabet (12 consonants and the special letter called 'alif). It would be helpful to you if you would memorize them because we are going to constantly refer to them inshaa allaah. Remember again that these letters of the Qur'aanic Arabic alphabet are not just meaningless figures with which ALLAAH wrote the Qur'aan but they are the very symbols which He himself designed to bring about the constructin of His entire creation. The fools do not know this knowledge. They make a mockery of it whenever ALLAAH shows it. To them there is no more than the letter of the word.
These are also the signs or symbols which ALLAAH speaks about which are found not only in the universe but within your own selves as well. Whoever will not have patience will loose out on this knowledge and ALLAAH will take it away again just as He always did before and you will remain steeped in your ignorance like the previous generations and will be held accountable for having denied it. Do not think others around the world are not studying it. Nobody can be told about it, each and every human being must see it for him or her own self.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.13selected.png

Again, look carefully at the above 13 letters which we have chosen to examine a little more deeper to take us into the Book (al-kitaab) inshaa allaah. They all have names as well. Their names are also not just inventions of the human imagination but they were all named by ALLAAH himself based upon knowledge. Nothing ALLAAH does is without reason. That is the reasoning of the fools. The Book (al-kitaab) will explain to you not only why the letters were named the way they were named but also why they have their sounds as well as their shapes. Before we continue with the explanation of the vowels, here is the chart with the names of the 13 selected letters.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.letternames2.png

2)- 3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters,
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Here are the examples of how the consonants are used with the vowels.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.avowel.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.ivowel.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.uvowel.png

3)- which can be extended into 3 long vowels using the 3 universal letters alif (a), waaw (W), and yaa (Y);

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.longvowels.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.'alif+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.'amzah+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.baa'+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.taa'+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.raa'+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.zaa'+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.siyn+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.faa'+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.laam+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.miym+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.nuwn+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.waaw+.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.yaa'+.png

The functions of the vowels.
As I said previously that there are and I repeat, "3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters,." Above I have given ample illustrations how they are used in written human communication to convey human speech.
In the book (al-kitaab) the vowels represent different types of motions or movements. Let me quote from a previous post.

Remember what you learned about the vowels. What are they? Let me refresh briefly.

"The vowels a - i - u represent motions.

a = going out motion (from the beginning point)

i = coming in motion (from the end point)

u = going out motion;coming in motion; going in and out motion (from any point)"

For now let us look at vowels a and i and leave the vowel u for another time.

Lets put this to the test with the l consonant.

Remember that we are now in a one dimensional line, like this ------------------------------------------------
So if we say la then it simply means l--------------------> l a line extending but did not reach its end.
If we say laa then it simply means l---------------------------------------->l a line extending and having reached its end
Because the l is infinite (from our definitions) la would mean from the infinite beginning moving towards the infinite end.
And laa would mean from the beginningless infinity to the endless infinity. In other words a line without boundaries; continuous forever in both directions but starting at the beginning side.
And because l represents the infinite dark matterless spaceless timeless void (from our definitions ) it is obvious that the meaning of laa should mean absolute nothing. And that is the meaning of the Arabic word for laa meaning no, not, or there is not. And there you have learned your first Arabic word from the book (al-kitaab) if you did not know it already.
Let us apply i and iy = coming in motion (from the end point)

So if we say li then it simply means l <-------------------l from the other end coming towards you but did not yet reach.
If we say liy then it simply means l<------------------------------------------l from the other end coming towards you and did reach.
Because the l is infinite (from our definitions) li would mean from the infinite end moving towards the beginning.

When ALLAAH made the numbers from which He would create everything they first appeared in a straight line in the l as follows;

. . . . . . . . . .
They were named +n and -m ( for now let us just think of them as m)
-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m

There was the l and then the first m forming l---->m which would read laam (and that is the name of l in Arabic as it is el in English.

If l to m is laam then m to l is miyl (remember the earlier rules of vowels).

l-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m-----m or
laammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. forming the infinite straight line.

What is the Book (al-kitaab)

The Kitaab is The Programme based upon The Numbers through which ALLAAH generated The Entire Universe.
Containing all the Knowledge including The Qur'aan.

It's name is

ALiF_LaaM_MiyM_Raa'

divided into two parts called

ALiF_LaaM_MiyM and ALiF_LaaM_Raa'

The Qur'aan 07228

"...and He enumerated everything by number ("adad)"

The Qur'aan 01849

And the Book (al-kitaab) shall be set in place;
and thou wilt see the sinners fearful at what is in it,
and saying, 'Alas for us! How is it with this Book, that it leaves nothing behind, small or great, but it has numbered it?'
And they shall find all they did present, and thy Lord shall not wrong anyone.

The Qur'aan 01993-95

There is none in the heavens or the earth but comes to the All Merciful as a servant;
He has already numbered them and numbered them by number,
and they are all coming to Him on the resurrection day singly.

The Qur'aan 003007

And everything We have numbered in a Book.

Surely it is We who bring the dead to life and write down what they have forwarded and what they have left behind;
and everything We have numbered in a manifest Imam.

The Qur'aan 003007
He it is who have revealed to Thee
The Book (al-kitaab)
from it are
aayaat (signs, symbols)
muhkamaat (defined); they are the mother, womb, matrix of the Book (al-kitaab) and others are mutashaabiHaat (similar but undefined).

The Qur'aan 002001

A_L_M <--That the Book (al-kitaab) wherein there is no uncertainty; guidance/direction for the highly righteous.

The Qur'aan 015001

A_L_R <-- Those are the signs of the Book (al-kitaab) and of a manifest Qur'aan.

The Qur'aan 013001

A_L_M_R <-- Those are The Signs (al_aayaat) of The Book (al_kitaab).
That which has been revealed unto thee from thy Lord is The Truth (al_haqq)
but most of humanity do not /will not believe.

Somewhere in the infinite dark/black spaceless timeless void ALLAAH made a point (represented by the letter b) that would represent the center of the Totality and divide the Totality in two. The outer world He called the External (al-DhaaHir) and the inner world He called the Internal (al-baaTin).
This b would serve as

• the Absolute with inner and outer infinite void.
• the origin of what is to come.
• the direction to which all must go.
• the singularity of time energy matter space etc.
• and above all it would serve as the door (baab) to the House (bayt) of ALLAAH.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.b..png

In the outer world ALLAAH left the darkness (al-Dhalaam) and in the inner world He made the light (al-nuwr). The outer world He called the incomplete (or false) and the inner world He called the complete (or true).

In the world of the darkness ALLAAH made the numbers from which He will build the creation including every human being who would be a number on the number line.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/alm1.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/alm2.png

Numbers that moves out he called +n and numbers that moves in He called +m. Going out means away from the right way and going in towards the b (the point of the light means going the right way.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/alm3.png

ALLAAh sent out the ruwh (r) to bring all the numbers around in a circle around the central b and made it the qibla (direction)

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/alm4.png

Then A_L_M and A_L_R came into existence and together became A_L_M_R and the books of ALLAAH came into existence. In posts to follow everything shall begin to be explained in detail inshaa allaah.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/alm5.png

If you have studied all of the above you will be ready to enter the Book (al-kitaab). In the next post 15 I will explain all in the time dimension and you will begin to see how the letters begin to form and the words begin to take on meaning. You will after that see how ALLAAH made the straight path that leads to Him and the paths that divert from the right way. You will see how the Ka"bah comes into existence from the center of the surrounding miyms and how the qibla becomes directed. If you have studied and now know all the rules given you will be ready to go on the great journey through the infinite inshaa allaah. Continued in the next post inshaa allaah.

abuw bakr

[farida]

as-salaamu "alaykum brother
Congralution for starting new year with giving us so much to look forward to and much knowledge to gain.
Shukran and salaam

[al-amiyr]

as-salaamu "alaykum brother
Congralution for starting new year with giving us so much to look forward to and much knowledge to gain.
Shukran and salaam

wa"alaykum-us-salaam sister farida

This is only the beginning. Everything will start to become visible and beautiful to the mind from the following post. It will no longer be so long.

I just hope that all those who have followed that they go carefully over post 14. It was meant to be a summary of what was given as well as what is coming. If you follow well you will begin to understand the structure of the entire creation. You will begin to be amazed at how you will begin to know the Qur'aan without even having studied the words. You will begin to understand everything that ALLAAH has ordained and why it is that what is done must be done. You will understand why we must worship ALLAAH and when this is understood then you will never cease to think of your Lord night and day. Nothing of this world will be of interest anymore. There will only be a striving for the world to come inshaa allaah.
May ALLAAH guide all of us to the right road inshaa allaah.

wa "alaykum-us-salaam

[al-amiyr]

as-salaamu "alaykum brother
Congralution for starting new year with giving us so much to look forward to and much knowledge to gain.
Shukran and salaam

+salaam

I see the ShayTaan and his allies beginning to get frantic. This is the furthest I got with explaining the Book (al-kitaab) on any forum. From the next post all what I said will begin to become clear. I will address all the questions that were directed at me from the beginning. I usually record every thread I have made and put it on my own forum to show the history of the development of the Book (al-kitaab) over forums.
If ShayTaan and his allies who cannot stomach the truth don't act quicker than expected then viewers will see some remarkable delineations of explanations. I am just keeping my patience for now and that is for one purpose and that is to show people the lies of this devil and his helpers. Falsehood can never stomach the truth. They can only ban and drive out others from their territory. The next ten days will tell inshaa allaah.

One thing I must make clear and is this, that since being here, I have never maligned the belief of anybody in or of this forum. I have been tolerant of their views and presented mine. I only hope that those who project themselves as free minds don't end up being the most clogged up. So if the devils whom I have already identified do not execute their strategies I shall proceed inshaa allaah.

+salaam

[savage_carrot]

+salaam

I see the ShayTaan and his allies beginning to get frantic. This is the furthest I got with explaining the Book (al-kitaab) on any forum. From the next post all what I said will begin to become clear. I will address all the questions that were directed at me from the beginning. I usually record every thread I have made and put it on my own forum to show the history of the development of the Book (al-kitaab) over forums.
If ShayTaan and his allies who cannot stomach the truth don't act quicker than expected then viewers will see some remarkable delineations of explanations. I am just keeping my patience for now and that is for one purpose and that is to show people the lies of this devil and his helpers. Falsehood can never stomach the truth. They can only ban and drive out others from their territory. The next ten days will tell inshaa allaah.

One thing I must make clear and is this, that since being here, I have never maligned the belief of anybody in or of this forum. I have been tolerant of their views and presented mine. I only hope that those who project themselves as free minds don't end up being the most clogged up. So if the devils whom I have already identified do not execute their strategies I shall proceed inshaa allaah.

+salaam

ShayTaan and his allies notwithstanding...we now have a timeframe of 10 days. Viewers are advised to contact admin if 'remarkable delineations of explanations' are not forthcoming within this time span. ShatTaan and his allies can execute whatever strategies they want, since there is no ban on the al-amiyr account as of now and it can freely post for at least 10 days more if not longer depending on how this unfolds...there is no reason why the special secrets need to be kept secrets.

chop chop

[al-amiyr]

ShayTaan and his allies notwithstanding...we now have a timeframe of 10 days. Viewers are advised to contact admin if 'remarkable delineations of explanations' are not forthcoming within this time span. ShatTaan and his allies can execute whatever strategies they want, since there is no ban on the al-amiyr account as of now and it can freely post for at least 10 days more if not longer depending on how this unfolds...there is no reason why the special secrets need to be kept secrets.

chop chop

Ten days and the Devil will begin to see his empire crumble. Forget about everything else and let us just concentrate on the Book (al-kitaab) that is now open for all the world to enter. Any question that you ask I will answer provided that it is based upon the subject of the Book (al-kitaab) of which the Qur'aan is its detailed explanation inshaa allaah. This explanation also comes with two other important separate explanations called The Mathematical Program of The Book (al-kitaab) and The Qur'aan Dynamics Model.
If at least three members of this forum did not confirm that 'remarkable delineations of explanations' of the reality I shall leave all in peace in this kingdom inshaa allaah.

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