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    Notexceling
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    Selam,

    I'll get straight into it (this is an extremely summarized version).
    For those who prefer a more in depth explanation,
    PLEASE REFER TO MY SECOND POST THAT WILL PROCEED.

    1,2,3,4,5......
    Our numerical system has potentially a never ending amount of numbers.
    But in truth
    Only one number does exist

    The number "1"

    That is because 1 explains itself and every other number. In fact, every number is a repetition (more precisely a reproduction) of the number 1.
    Not only does it explain every whole number but it also explains every type of number.
    For example a fraction or a decimal point is a part of 1.

    What's so special about 1 is it is also complete
    1 = 100%

    In maths, when something is complete It must have a bound and an end.
    In maths this is signified with brackets ( )
    ( <------bound, beginning
    ) <------end, finish

    So

    (1) or (100%) is a more correct form of using the number (we don't use brackets commonly but we know they are there)

    (1)
    This also means 1 is finite.
    Anything that can be calculated is.

    The number (1)
    by itself can not do much.
    It needs a medium or a language to communicate.

    Multiply, square root, divide are all fancy and group methods of doing the core symbols of maths.
    Addition and subtraction

    Just like (1),
    (+|-)addition and subtraction can explain themselves and every other type of calculations.

    Example

    3x2 =6

    (1+1+1) + (1+1+1) = (1+1+1+1+1+1)

    So inside every (1) we have (+|-).

    Scientifically we know we are living in 1 (E=mc2)

    My question is say we calculated everything that exists in our (1) universe.
    Hypothetically lets say
    everything = (100)

    What would be

    1 + (100) = ?

    It can not be 101
    Reason
    Everything has already been calculated and it equalled (100)

    Let me rephrase the question

    from my brief explanation above what would be

    1 + (finite)
    1 + (maths)
    1 + (1)
    1 + (universe)
    1 + (everything)
    1 + (100%)
    1 + (E=mc2)
    1 + (+|-)

    ????

    It must be something outside of the bound and end (brackets)
    Our concept of this is called
    Absolute Infinity

    Something beyond all bounds and ends

    So in an equation
    1 + (1) =
    Or as explained before the core language of (1) is maths (+|-)

    The theory of Absolute Infinity
    1 + (+|-) =

    What so special about this equation?

    It explain outside of our brackets
    Allah is complete 1
    100%
    Yet he is incomprehensible

    It explains that we have the option I'd either choosing a + path or - negative

    If on the day of judgment "=" our good deeds out way our bad
    1 + (+>-) = +
    You will end up in eternal positive or heaven
    Respectively
    1 + (+<-) = -
    Hell

    I'll go into detail with my second post.

    What ill do now is show you all Quranic ayats.
    Every Surah in the Quran explains the equation and never exceeds.

    Surah 112,

    In the name of Allah, 1=

    The most Beneficent (saying thanks for the + in (+|-) to the beneficent)

    The most merciful (asking for mercy for your - in (+|-) to the merciful )

    Say he is 1 (1),
    on all whom depend (+)
    he begets not, nor is begotten (+|-)
    and none is like him (&#8734

    59.22
    He is Allah besides Whom there is no god; the Knower of the 1+
    unseen and the seen; (-|+)
    He is the Beneficent, the Merciful (=&#8734
    1+ (+|-) =

    48.14
    And Allah's is the kingdom (1+). of the heavens (&#8734 and the earth; (+|-)
    He (1+)
    forgives whom He pleases and punishes whom He pleases, (+|-)
    and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (=&#8734

    1.1
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. (1=&#8734
    1.1-7
    All praise is due to Allah, (1+)
    the Lord of the Worlds(+|-)
    The Beneficent ( receiver of +) the Merciful ( forgiver of -)
    Master of the day of judgement (=)
    Thee (1= &#8734 do we serve (with + in (+|-))
    and Thee do we beseech for help (for the - in (+|-))
    Keep us on the right path"+", The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors "+". Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down "-", nor of those who go astray"-".

    Right path/astray, (=/&#8800 (+|-)
    favors/wrath, (=/&#8800 (+|-)

    2.29
    He it is Who created for you (1+)
    all that is in the earth, (+|-)
    and He directed Himself to the heaven, so He made them complete seven heavens, and He knows all things. (=&#8734

    4.133
    If He please, (1+)
    He can make you pass away, O people! and bring others; (+|-)
    and Allah has the power to do this. (=&#8734

    4.170 this one is about the Prophet
    O people! surely the Apostle has come to you with the truth from your Lord, (1+)
    therefore believe, (it shall be) good for you and If you disbelieve, then surely whatever is in the heavens and the earth is Allah's; (+|-)
    and Allah is Knowing, Wise. (=&#8734

    96.1-3
    Read in the name of your Lord Who created. (1+)
    He created man from a clot. (+|-)
    Read and your Lord is Most Honorable, (=&#8734

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      .Did Georg Cantor get it wrong?
      (&#8734
      The Greatest Oxymoron in Existence.

      What I believe Cantor found was the infinite possibilities within the number "1".

      One explains itself and every other number including the infinite possibilities within itself. ALL different types of numerical expressions like fractions, decimal points, percentages, whole numbers, irrational number, etc,
      are different ways of expressing this one number within our finite system.
      One is the identity of mathematics.

      It is such a perfect number that any variations on the 100% value of 1, is an imperfection

      Hence Cantors proclaimed Absolute Infinity is restricted by the number 1, a 100% complete (bounded and ended) value.

      (1) = (100%)

      Absolute Infinity must be boundless and endless and defined in Mathematical language as

      Cantors most proclaimed work is in fractions, a part of the infinite possibilities within 1.
      So we must add the Bound/end/restriction "()" of 1 or 100%.

      (&#8734

      No matter if you calculate with 1 or within 1, the infinite possibilities are restricted by its oneness. It therefore must have a beginning and an end.

      This also means because we are within the laws of one E=mc2, It is impossible for the universe merely to have a beginning
      (

      Georg Cantor was not wrong however about his findings, just what he found has been wrongly titled as infinity.

      It is infinite yes but not Absolute infinity or infinity in totality.

      There is only one problem with 1.
      Just by itself it can not calculate within itself or with reproductions of itself.

      It requires a language to be able to calculate.

      Mathematical Governing laws.

      If "1" is the identity of Mathematics, What is the core of the universal language?

      If you think about it x, ? , , Etc are grouped and fancy symbols. We could still continue calculating without them. The only two symbols that do exist and explain all other symbols/mathematical expressions are

      "+" and "-"

      Simple example
      2x3=6
      (1+1)+(1+1)+(1+1)=(1+1+1+1+1+1)

      Addition and subtraction are only derived due to the existence of the number 1.
      It is the language spoken by the number 1 and therefore also it's restriction.

      It's either the entity or value exist and added then, eventually ceases to exist and taken away.

      Any entity or value that is added can never not exist or become nothing, only the additional 1 that it supplied is subtracted.

      Whatever this entity contributed or any other additions they reproduced while existing still remains, even if it itself, ceases to exist.

      I mention the word "reproduced" for a reason.
      To actually create something using multiple other entities or other ones is something you've designed, not created.

      For example if we were to create a table, we (1) are using other materials (1+1+1) and we can only design it to our desired outcome (1).

      The only way we can actually "create" something is with reproduction.
      Reason is simple.

      We are each an individual 1
      Our bodies develop and emit 1.1
      Our children becomes another 1
      But always has this .1 from our 1.

      Michael from Vsauce explains it well
      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s

      So in actual fact a decimal point that is beyond the 100% of 1, could potentially end up being a part of another 1, even though it developed within the initial 1.

      We can also never become nothing because we were once something and nothing can not be subtracted unless it becomes an additional something. Everything that has ceased to exist has existed at specific time.
      Everything that exists or existed is an addition.

      This doesn't only apply to physical or tangible entities.

      For example we can create (or add on) using our imagination. The unique imaginative something that we created exists at a certain time within your space, so even if forgotten and never remembered again, it can never become nothing, only the addition it supplied is forgotten.

      However even this imaginative something is still restricted and can only be created because of our experiences.
      We can not imagine what someone else imagines to the exact detail nor can we conjure up something unimaginable because everything you imagine is subject to your own wiring and experiences or, your moment in time within the space of your life.

      Hence nothing outside of your restricted (1) can be contemplated because we are restricted by your unique Addition and Subtraction. (+|-)

      Quick summary

      1. Cantors infinity is not absolute infinity and restricted by 1
        (1)=(100%)=(&#8734

      2. Our (1) is restricted by 100%

      3. ( + | - ) is the language and also a restriction of (1).

      4. We can not contemplate beyond our (1)

      What so special about the addition and subtraction (+|-) ?

      This is the core of mathematics. Everything must have an Equal and opposite to exist.

      Hence It also explains

      Positive and negative,

      Addition subtraction,

      Time space,

      Proton electron,

      Good Bad,

      Right Wrong,

      Light Dark

      We can even say

      Yin Yang.

      All we have is equal and opposites and one can not exist without the other. Black exists because of white and vice versa.

      Think of anything, chemistry, biology, physics even non scientific subjects like morale; you can even say from a materialistic morale point of view, water is our greatest asset, the reason for life yet, our greatest restriction.

      Anything from a positive and a negative within a finite position can be explained quite easily.

      The only title that can be given to something that explains everything is

      The Theory of Everything
      (+|-)

      In understanding this number 1 and it language that it must obey in order to be calculate, we also see the relationship between science and mathematics

      That is mathematics studies the

      (+ | - )laws to understand the (1) value.

      Science studies the

      (1) value to understand the ( + | - ) laws.

      Except.......

      Quantum Mechanics states for nothing to create something, laws must be in place for nothing to produce something.

      How do you explain this. Easy....

      A law is something that governs its subjects. It is not an actual physical entity and can not be expressed as the value 1.
      It is however an addition which must preexist our mathematical restrictions, as quantum mechanics states.

      • ( + | - )

      Would it be wrong then if I state this is the equation of Quantum mechanics,

      And this is what governing physics only studies (+|-)

      ?

      I believe this is the never before seen link between Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Physics.

      Even a law however is not nothing, but something. It is an action and must proceed an entity.

      1 + ( + | - )

      I'll ask another question to better understand what I'm implying

      What is 1 added onto finite or 1 added onto Mathematics as the equation shows?
      Different variations

      1 + ()

      1 + (1)

      1 + (Maths)

      1 + (e=mc2)

      1 + (+|-)

      1 + (logic)

      1 + (everything)

      1 + (finite)

      ??

      Heres an example... Say we calculated everything and found the total answer,

      Hypothetically say everything equals to 100, what is 1 added onto 100 or everything
      1+(100)

      It can not be 101

      It must therefore be

      Quote "If an object tries to travel 186,000 miles per second, its mass becomes infinite, and so does the energy required to move it. For this reason, no normal object can travel as fast or faster than the speed of light."

      http//science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/what-if/what-if-faster-than-speed-of-light.htm

      So now we have an equation

      1 + (1) = or better explained

      1 + ( + | - ) =

      The Actual True infinity or as I like to call this, The Omni Equation.

      Before continuing I should mention Mathematics ability is within all creatures. Once any creature is born, it must mathematically calculate a way of staying alive.
      The survival instinct or emotions must come from the newborn itself and that requires calculations. A perfectly healthy new born baby doesn't need to be taught to breathe, it just does. A fish doesn't need to be taught to swim, it just does.

      If we came from a single cell organism and evolved to the state we are, that first spark of life had to strategize a plan to survive. It also had to use the foundations of the universal law of mathematics, in order to reproduce and prosper.

      The only difference between us and our cousins, that is all creations that came from this first life form, is we got good at mathematics.
      We started questioning the logic, the what's, when's, how's and especially why's. Started exploring, learning, contemplating, deciphering, dominating etc

      There are some who might argue as to our existence coming from Absolute Zero.
      The examples I have received vary in hypothetical scenarios, however the fundamental point they want to make is always along the same concept.
      Here's one example
      Quote "Zero is an important starting place. The farmer whose fencing and barn works had been blown down in the typhoon, found that there were zero cows on his premises. He had to start from zero to get to having one cow, at least, again."

      Scenarios like this miss crucial elements of the equation. Here the farmer is with the idea and quite aware that cows actually exists. The farmer does not start with zero cows, he has prior knowledge of the existence of cows and builds his farm with the intention of getting cows.
      If the cows were at Absolute zero, he would have asked for something else rather than a cow.
      Without 1 cow existing or ever existing, there is no such thing as cows.

      Now to really get to the best bit

      THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SCIENCE AND THEOLOGY.

      First let me start by mentioning this,

      It does not matter what you call this God or even if you follow a God, as long as you believe there is a one, 100% infinite that can never be limited by our governing laws.
      If you agree that God, Allah, YHWH, Absolute Infinite or any other name you prefer to call it does exist, then I follow the same 1= that you follow.
      My use of the word "God" is because I'm explaining the Absolute, in totality God, a incomprehensible completely unrestricted entity that must be outside of our mathematical laws.

      So We (1) have free will (+|-).

      God "1=" outside of () does not tamper with (+|-). This falls under the category of "Miracle" which I will explain later.

      We can do good or bad and imbalance the system.

      When time of judgement comes "="

      and your judged by 1= outside of our (+|-)

      You can potentially end up with + or -

      E.g

      You've done 60% positive in total within your free will

      Well....

      1+(+60,-40) = + = Heaven

      Or the vice versa, hell

      1+(+40,-60) = -

      That would mean

      Adding onto addition itself is +

      or

      Added onto subtraction itself is -

      1 + (+) = +

      1 + (-) = -

      It is important to remember ONLY "1 = " outside of () can judge. We can not even judge ourselves.

      Now let me show you different religious belief structures. We must understand that anything outside of the finite is hidden, incomparable and incomprehensible.

      Let me explain it this way

      We already know
      1= outside finite is God,
      Everything created is an addition, a positive + .
      God only gives positives to the universe.

      +(+|-)
      Atheist, understand natural law exist

      1=(+|-)
      Pantheist, the universe is God

      (1= )
      Buddhism, look within yourself to find personal Nirvana. Cantors ideology is somewhat a Buddhist belief.

      1=+=(+|-) =
      Christianity, father (1) holy spirit (+) son (+|-) (holy spirit is the deliverer of Gods word, positive, the son is earthly bound son)

      However Jesus said in the Bible constantly

      the father (1)

      is greater (+)

      than I (+|-).

      I should also mention Christianity believes (1=&#8734 or Jesus God who came to earth. This is very similar to the Buddhist belief however, Buddhism believes everyone has the potential of finding within themselves and Christianity believe only 1 character, Jesus had within him.

      Also another similar religious belief is Hinduism where multiple (1=&#8734 can or have existed.

      By clearly looking at the restrictions of (1), (+|-), We understand 1= can never have any (). In other words, God can never be an oxymoron.

      That would mean to understand a religious quote like, to be made "in Gods image" actually means to be made up of 1 but never his .

      Also the other Christian ideologies, like a part of God or begotten son of God, can also be explained

      A part of God

      God Is the only 100%

      If Jesus was .1% of Gods 100%

      Then God becomes 99.9% and we become Godless.

      Son of God

      To have a child is an emission from yourself. We are given genes from our parents, not actual physical parts but a mathematical development of reproduction that is produced, then emitted. So it already is restricted by (+|-) and Absolute can not be within ().

      Also an emission from yourself is always connected to you.
      What I mean is,

      As explained earlier

      We are each an individual 1

      Our bodies develop and emit 1.1

      Our children becomes another 1

      But always has this .1 from our 1.

      The problem is God is Absolute . If God developed then emitted rather than created, then God becomes a 1.1 at one stage and an always 100% infinite God, becomes a 110% .

      God can not be greater than God. He must be complete but Absolute .

      In all fairness to Christianity,

      Not until the Nicene Creed was this error accepted. Athanasius's ideology prevailed Arius concept. When studied in depth mathematically, it is easy to spot that Arius's belief should have been accepted.

      Also there are sections in the Bible that are more correct than our current accepted mathematics

      For example

      Genesis 11

      ...God (1) created (+) heavens ( ) and earth (+|-),

      or the finite is within infinite, not vice versa.

      Even though Genesis's further explanation maybe mathematically unsound, the first line is in perfect sync and actually proves wrong Cantor.

      Islam

      Quran

      Surah 112,

      In the name of Allah, 1=

      The most Beneficent (saying thanks for the + in (+|-) to the beneficent)

      The most merciful (asking for mercy for your - in (+|-) to the merciful )

      Say he is 1 (1),

      on all whom depend (+)

      he begets not, nor is begotten (+|-)

      and none is like him (&#8734

      The whole Quran is written with this theme, I have not found a single Chapter/Surah that falls outside of the vicinity of the equation. It explains God, what he gives to mankind, a positive and negative and the eternal end.

      and so on....

      The equation explains a lot of unanswered questions Like for example God does not change the mathematics, he could but won't. He does miracles by setting the mathematics before the creation is created, so Moses parting the ocean means the ocean already had its appointed time to part.

      Even though it does not explain evolution, which I am a firm believer of even though I believe in God, (I can explain this religiously if required), it does explain that Adams heaven must have been on earth because Adam is within the (+|-).

      Also there is no such thing as original sin, we may have come because of it but are not subject to it.

      The reason Adams heaven was considered heaven is due to him only being able to see the positives (+) within the (+|-) when he sinned the negatives were revealed.

      Mathematically

      It is illogical to think Absolute Infinity is within the restrictions of mathematics.
      Wouldn't it be beyond our numerical values (1), our universal laws(+|-), our time and space?
      I'm showing you an equation that is trying to justify beyond Cantor.
      The Absolute Infinity that can never have boundaries.

      1+=
      outside of our
      (+|-) or (1)

      Cantors work has just been mislabeled as infinity, it is actually just the number 1.
      Literally again I ask you to think outside the box

      Equation be it is
      When he decrees a matter, he only has to say Be, and it is" is easily definable with mathematics.

      The art of saying/stating is an addition.
      The Quran goes further and mentions that this decree is a commandment,
      "BE"

      We also understand that "lt is" in this commandment is the actual creation
      being created. So an addition has been added to the equation. Every creature is an individual 1. Due to him being the creator and outside of our mathematics and not restricted by the governing laws of mathematics the created "1" can not be added the initial (1), so the created 1 must have brackets.

      Hence, this line in the Quran in a numerical format is

      Allah (1) only has to say, Be (+) and it is (1)
      Or simply

      1 + (1)

      But this creation Allah states he makes in pairs in Yasin 36.36
      Glory be to Him Who created pairs of all things, of what the earth grows, and of their kind and of what they do not know.

      Most think this pair is male, female but it means equal and opposite. Things you know (equal), thing you don't know (opposite)

      So again we end up with 1+(+|-)

      I know so much more about the equation but I'll leave you all with this final important feature of The Omni Equation,

      Scientist and related schools of Academia have been debating theologians, labeling them "backward thinking" and restricted for believing in a deity. The truth is however, the equation clearly shows those who follow a deity have thought a lot more about the bigger picture and in particular, outside the box.

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        al-amiyr
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        +salaam Notexceling

        Thanks for an excellent explanation. I enjoyed it very much. Could you write more and as much as you can explain? Thank you.

        +salaam

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          Indeed. Permutations of the "1". The number 1 is derived from the Platonic 'form' of 1, of course it is beyond form altogether in a way.

          http//www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_ciencia/holouniverse03_01.jpg

          Have a read - Information in the holographic universe

          Ref 2118

          The creation in pairs is also interesting. As you can see, it takes 4 planck areas to represent a single bit (1 or 0). In such a sense even pairs are created in pairs.

          The way you explained the 'balance' of judgement day is impeccable. It could only be heaven OR hell. Otherwise there would be varying degrees of levels of afterlife in between ultimate hell and ultimate heaven. Another way to look at it is momentum. Let's quantify goodness and evilness from 0-1.

          Lets say goodness > 0.5 and life will eventually be freed of suffering. Whereas goodness less than 0.5 means that if we extend time to infinity suffering/unpeace/chaos will take over. It is a fine balance (ref ch55). After all, look at humanity here and now does anyone in due sanity believe that ravenous hedonism/shirk could keep the universe in order for eternity? Yet it is self-evident that some souls, when given eternal life, will never transgress the boundaries forbidded; thusly left free to explore the infinite potential contained in goodness alone.

          The system is perfect. Mass is a (+), and gravity is a (-) thus the total energy of the universe is always 0. So as such we may consider this verse

          But nay! I swear by the falling of stars;
          And most surely it is a very great oath if you only knew;
          Most surely it is an honored Quran,
          In a book that is protected

          Truly a mind blasting oath. To myself this oath alone is a sufficient proof of the veracity of the quran.

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            @notexceling - are you al-amiyr's twin or reflection in the mirror?

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              Whoever will give the hearing will see and that is a promise of ALLAAH in the Qur'aan.
              Salaam

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                @notexceling - are you al-amiyr's twin or reflection in the mirror?

                rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                Here we go again...

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                  Peace notexceling.

                  Just in time to give al-amiyr the example of how to do it?

                  Yes , interesting, but it needs to be checked.

                  Thank you anyway.

                  Peace.

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                    Peace notexceling.

                    Just in time to give al-amiyr the example of how to do it?

                    Peace.

                    By speaking 'from the cradle' hmm

                    peace

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                      What's so special about 1 is it is also complete
                      1 = 100%

                      2 is equally 100% - as is any number.

                      Do you really understand maths?

                      In maths, when something is complete It must have a bound and an end.

                      Where do you find this? Are you making this up? Have you never used "limes" calculations? Real numbers in limes superior and limes inferior can be exchanged for anything.

                      This also means 1 is finite.
                      Anything that can be calculated is.

                      No! We are perfectly capable of using infinite or irrational numbers in mathematical constructs.

                      My question is say we calculated everything that exists in our (1) universe.
                      Hypothetically lets say
                      everything = (100)

                      Does that include a god? Dark energy too? What is the definition of "everything"?

                      What would be 1 + (100) = ?
                      It can not be 101

                      M-Theory depends on this.

                      Absolute Infinity

                      Something beyond all bounds and ends

                      What "Absolute Infinity"?

                      Are you going towards the Christian guy Cantor and his "Transfinite" magic?

                      What you are demonstrating is the ability to use some simple numbers and project them to mean anything. It is so generic I can use it to determine the weight of a squirrel or that of my fridge.

                      Ah, rats, I should have read the 2nd post first. Oh well...

                      What happens if we not only get rid of / and x (division and multiplication) but also subtraction? And then addition? Who are you to decide what mathematical process is meaningful?

                      Because it helps your point or because it serves some undiscovered mechanism or process?

                      How is a number "1" individual? What are the psychological properties of a "1"?

                      We can also never become nothing because we were once something and nothing can not be subtracted unless it becomes an additional something.

                      Superficially this is correct, under specified circumstances. In others, it is not.
                      Generally, we are made up of particles generated in stars which subsequently imploded or exploded and scattered their elements in space which are found on our planet.

                      However, if looking at particle physics or under the extremes of Black Holes, these definitions are no longer applicable. Yes, we can contemplate the conservation of energy, but when looking at the Universe this can't be applied due to the nature of dark energy, which we can't measure or assess in any way today.

                      1. Hypothetically say everything equals to 100, what is 1 added onto 100 or everything 1+(100). It can not be 101
                      2. It must therefore be

                      I don't understand the difference between 1 and 2. Could you please explain this?

                      that first spark of life had to strategize a plan to survive

                      Are you saying that evolution follows a plan?

                      So We (1) have free will (+|-).

                      Whoa! Where does this suddenly come from??

                      God "1=" outside of ()

                      Where did you define god?

                      This falls under the category of "Miracle" which I will explain later.

                      So this is where the cookie crumbles and you leave reality behind completely.

                      Yep, the rest is superstitious, unproven wishful thinking.

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                        rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                        Here we go again...

                        Here we go again... You took the words right out of my mouth!

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                          Here we go again... You took the words right out of my mouth!

                          Yes, and after StopS intervened, and asked questions, there were no more responses...

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                            The description is so long and confusing.
                            It's very simple.

                            The best symbol in Math for Allah/God is

                            Q What / who equals to ?
                            A =

                            Q How many could there possibly exist?
                            A See above = , / = 1

                            Q Prove that phenomenon exist
                            A 10 / 3 = 3,33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 until

                            Q Can I / He / She / It who/which are finite number is ?
                            A Of course not, is not a finite number.

                            Q Given I am a number 4, can I be in a set of - to ?
                            A Yes number 4 is within a set of - to .

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                              Allah is just an ARABIC word for God. I don't understand why some people who call themselves Muslims think that Allah is name of Muslim God.

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                                Peace
                                Folks,
                                This thread is a total waste both of time and space in here. Going obssessed with such pseudological and pseudoscientific crap won take us anywhere.

                                Peace
                                Harun

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                                  Allah does not mean God.

                                  Instead, its THE GOD. Or THE DEITY.

                                  Also, 10/3 is not a good example for infinity at all. 0/0 is. Also, any number divided by zero.

                                  God does not need a mathematical definition. What is that? He cannot be defined. Whats with the infinity which is nothing but a division. You cannot come to infinity by multiplying something unless you multiply with infinity itself. Even Zero is not quantifiable.

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                                    2 is equally 100% - as is any number.

                                    2 = is not 100% it is beyond 1.

                                    we are dealing with simple numbers here.

                                    Do you really understand maths?

                                    Yes 2 = 1 + 1

                                    No! We are perfectly capable of using infinite or irrational numbers in mathematical constructs.

                                    What i've displayed doesn't go against the laws of irrational numbers or using infinites in mathematics.
                                    All these can be explained by (1) and the infinite possibilities within it.

                                    Does that include a god? Dark energy too? What is the definition of "everything"?
                                    My definition of everything is all that can be defined by (1) or is within it, including M-theory.

                                    What "Absolute Infinity"?
                                    Absolute =complete=100%
                                    infinity =boundless/endless=

                                    Are you going towards the Christian guy Cantor and his "Transfinite" magic?
                                    Cantor actually coined the word ?transfinite? in an attempt to distinguish the various levels of infinite numbers from an Absolute Infinity 100% , an incomprehensible concept beyond mathematics itself, which then Cantor effectively equated with God (he saw no contradiction between his mathematics and the traditional concept of God)

                                    What you are demonstrating is the ability to use some simple numbers and project them to mean anything. It is so generic I can use it to determine the weight of a squirrel or that of my fridge.

                                    Its simplicity is its strength

                                    Ah, rats, I should have read the 2nd post first. Oh well...

                                    yes you should have

                                    What happens if we not only get rid of / and x (division and multiplication) but also subtraction? And then addition? Who are you to decide what mathematical process is meaningful?

                                    If you read my post you will understand x and ? are just grouped methods of doing + and -

                                    Because it helps your point or because it serves some undiscovered mechanism or process?

                                    assumption

                                    How is a number "1" individual? What are the psychological properties of a "1"?

                                    (+-)

                                    Superficially this is correct, under specified circumstances. In others, it is not.
                                    Generally, we are made up of particles generated in stars which subsequently imploded or exploded and scattered their elements in space which are found on our planet.

                                    However, if looking at particle physics or under the extremes of Black Holes, these definitions are no longer applicable. Yes, we can contemplate the conservation of energy, but when looking at the Universe this can't be applied due to the nature of dark energy, which we can't measure or assess in any way today.

                                    And your point is??????

                                    I don't understand the difference between 1 and 2. Could you please explain this?

                                    yes 1 is 100% complete. 2 is 2 individual 100% completes

                                    Are you saying that evolution follows a plan?

                                    yes

                                    every (1) must have a (+-) to continue existence.

                                    Whoa! Where does this suddenly come from??

                                    Where did you define god?

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                                      one is a reference ,the aya clearly state that god is "ahad" and in another aya it is "al ahad " or "al wahid"
                                      another aya would also state the only.nothing beside him or with him.
                                      you using the nubmers here refer to the uniqueness of god but cannot resemble him.so the one is not Allah neither Allah is the number one.i could argue that Allah is the only .
                                      the aya could go for that as well.still all is balanced by the number one as u have suggested. meaning the number one can be the tip of the balance -+. and there are things that do not exist in quantities .they simply resemble what they affect like hate and feelings .does that mean that those are ALLah.
                                      my only understanding of Allah would be that with out him nothing would exist ,as simple as that.

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                                        Selam,

                                        I'll get straight into it (this is an extremely summarized version).
                                        For those who prefer a more in depth explanation,
                                        PLEASE REFER TO MY SECOND POST THAT WILL PROCEED.

                                        1,2,3,4,5......
                                        Our numerical system has potentially a never ending amount of numbers.
                                        But in truth
                                        Only one number does exist

                                        The number "1"

                                        That is because 1 explains itself and every other number. In fact, every number is a repetition (more precisely a reproduction) of the number 1.
                                        Not only does it explain every whole number but it also explains every type of number.
                                        For example a fraction or a decimal point is a part of 1.

                                        What's so special about 1 is it is also complete
                                        1 = 100%

                                        In maths, when something is complete It must have a bound and an end.
                                        In maths this is signified with brackets ( )
                                        ( <------bound, beginning
                                        ) <------end, finish

                                        So

                                        (1) or (100%) is a more correct form of using the number (we don't use brackets commonly but we know they are there)

                                        (1)
                                        This also means 1 is finite.
                                        Anything that can be calculated is.

                                        The number (1)
                                        by itself can not do much.
                                        It needs a medium or a language to communicate.

                                        Multiply, square root, divide are all fancy and group methods of doing the core symbols of maths.
                                        Addition and subtraction

                                        Just like (1),
                                        (+|-)addition and subtraction can explain themselves and every other type of calculations.

                                        Example

                                        3x2 =6

                                        (1+1+1) + (1+1+1) = (1+1+1+1+1+1)

                                        So inside every (1) we have (+|-).

                                        Scientifically we know we are living in 1 (E=mc2)

                                        My question is say we calculated everything that exists in our (1) universe.
                                        Hypothetically lets say
                                        everything = (100)

                                        What would be

                                        1 + (100) = ?

                                        It can not be 101
                                        Reason
                                        Everything has already been calculated and it equalled (100)

                                        Let me rephrase the question

                                        from my brief explanation above what would be

                                        1 + (finite)
                                        1 + (maths)
                                        1 + (1)
                                        1 + (universe)
                                        1 + (everything)
                                        1 + (100%)
                                        1 + (E=mc2)
                                        1 + (+|-)

                                        ????

                                        It must be something outside of the bound and end (brackets)
                                        Our concept of this is called
                                        Absolute Infinity

                                        Something beyond all bounds and ends

                                        So in an equation
                                        1 + (1) =
                                        Or as explained before the core language of (1) is maths (+|-)

                                        The theory of Absolute Infinity
                                        1 + (+|-) =

                                        What so special about this equation?

                                        It explain outside of our brackets
                                        Allah is complete 1
                                        100%
                                        Yet he is incomprehensible

                                        It explains that we have the option I'd either choosing a + path or - negative

                                        If on the day of judgment "=" our good deeds out way our bad
                                        1 + (+>-) = +
                                        You will end up in eternal positive or heaven
                                        Respectively
                                        1 + (+<-) = -
                                        Hell

                                        I'll go into detail with my second post.

                                        What ill do now is show you all Quranic ayats.
                                        Every Surah in the Quran explains the equation and never exceeds.

                                        Surah 112,

                                        In the name of Allah, 1=

                                        The most Beneficent (saying thanks for the + in (+|-) to the beneficent)

                                        The most merciful (asking for mercy for your - in (+|-) to the merciful )

                                        Say he is 1 (1),
                                        on all whom depend (+)
                                        he begets not, nor is begotten (+|-)
                                        and none is like him (&#8734

                                        59.22
                                        He is Allah besides Whom there is no god; the Knower of the 1+
                                        unseen and the seen; (-|+)
                                        He is the Beneficent, the Merciful (=&#8734
                                        1+ (+|-) =

                                        48.14
                                        And Allah's is the kingdom (1+). of the heavens (&#8734 and the earth; (+|-)
                                        He (1+)
                                        forgives whom He pleases and punishes whom He pleases, (+|-)
                                        and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (=&#8734

                                        1.1
                                        In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. (1=&#8734
                                        1.1-7
                                        All praise is due to Allah, (1+)
                                        the Lord of the Worlds(+|-)
                                        The Beneficent ( receiver of +) the Merciful ( forgiver of -)
                                        Master of the day of judgement (=)
                                        Thee (1= &#8734 do we serve (with + in (+|-))
                                        and Thee do we beseech for help (for the - in (+|-))
                                        Keep us on the right path"+", The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors "+". Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down "-", nor of those who go astray"-".

                                        Right path/astray, (=/&#8800 (+|-)
                                        favors/wrath, (=/&#8800 (+|-)

                                        2.29
                                        He it is Who created for you (1+)
                                        all that is in the earth, (+|-)
                                        and He directed Himself to the heaven, so He made them complete seven heavens, and He knows all things. (=&#8734

                                        4.133
                                        If He please, (1+)
                                        He can make you pass away, O people! and bring others; (+|-)
                                        and Allah has the power to do this. (=&#8734

                                        4.170 this one is about the Prophet
                                        O people! surely the Apostle has come to you with the truth from your Lord, (1+)
                                        therefore believe, (it shall be) good for you and If you disbelieve, then surely whatever is in the heavens and the earth is Allah's; (+|-)
                                        and Allah is Knowing, Wise. (=&#8734

                                        96.1-3
                                        Read in the name of your Lord Who created. (1+)
                                        He created man from a clot. (+|-)
                                        Read and your Lord is Most Honorable, (=&#8734

                                        dude i know it sounds awesome but you seriously over thought this. it does prove that ALLAH exist but have you ever failed a math test for not simplifying your answer?

                                        the fact that we can count proves ALLAH exist so try to simplify it in between you modest mouse like never ending math equation and this short proof it will help lesser mindful individuals understand also relate from their own experience.

                                        May ALLAH guide me

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                                          Notexceling
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                                          lol
                                          without my short intro and to the explanation of the equational properties there is only 102 words.

                                          I think that is sufficiently summarised and easy to understand.

                                          Just remember

                                          Allah made it easy.
                                          Im showing its as easy as

                                          Allah 1=
                                          says Be +
                                          and it is (1)

                                          1+(1)=

                                          May Allah guide us all.

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