Questions about al-amiyr
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Justamuslim, don't waste your time with al-amiyr. He is not going to answer your questions. he will say a whole bunch of things like he did with his family tree but never gave you a straight forward answers. whatever answers he does provide will be lies. Read my other postings. I suspect that you have figured this guy out but not really sure with your recent postings......
You have identified certain characteristics and behaviors about him. Something doesn't feel right about him to you - does it? Pay attention to that. Yes, this is all a game for al-amiyr. He likes and needs all this attention. By responding to him, you are feeding him and giving him what he craves. YES, he is manipulating you, trying to get you to do what he wants you to do. He is trying to control the situation by asking you to respond to his lesson in exchange for answering your questions. Don't fall for it.
You know how satan works. I know that you do. So stay smart and be firm in your faith. Do not respond to al-amiyr and his "supporters". Don't feed him with attention and don't waste your time. And why should you listen to me? I have background in psychiatry. But you don't have to take my word for it. You can discover on your own. You are a smart girl.
The whole publicity around this @al-amiyr issue starts looking like a childish, immature game...
I sense something doesn't feel quite right about it all...
I think Satan cannot do nothing to someone who doesn't succumb to his/her own "evil inclination".
In one of the very first appearances of @al-amyir, member @StopS wrote
Are you just going on with posting page by page after page for the next 2 years, promising explanations later and later while piling up the claims?
Your claims are laughable and wrong. They are not scientific. They are spiritual mumbo-jumbo. You are repeating and repeating yourself without any factual base.
Why can't you make one (1) claim, explain it and show that you know what you are doing? You have no clue what cosmology is and just want to mislead people with your nonsensical claims.
I have asked you some factual questions. It seems you are not only clueless in cosmogony but also unable to answer really simple, factual questions.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604738.msg315355#msg315355
The bold parts (underlined by me) starts to take relevance to me, after I've read all @al-amyir's posts...
I still dunno what to think... confused
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I take refuge into the Allah, and God, blessed be He, from Satan the rejected!
Glory be to God, the Exalted One, the Eternal One, the One Who is far away from anything they might ascribe to Him!
peace
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I sense something doesn't feel quite right about it all...
I still dunno what to think... confused
Your senses are definitely right! What is it that is confusing to you? What is confusing to you might also be confusing to someone else. By talking aloud, you could help others who also dont know. Perhaps I or someone else can help in addressing what you are unsure of.
My advice place your trust in God only always and firmly. God will never lead you astray. And it is God who guides you, delivering you from darkness not this al-amiyr person who is suffering from delusions with religious overtones - has psychiatric disorder. There are people who suffer from mental illness as defined by DSM IV. I am familiar as I have training in psychiatry. I joined this forum to point his behavior and exposing him to people who don't know or not aware.
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Peace Amnew.
By all means refute al-amiyr, give your views and opinions. However most brothers and sisters in this forum trust in God Alone. They will make up their own mind.
They are not going to follow you, me, al-amiyr or anyone else when it comes to "Deen".
They have God and His word.
But thanks anyway.
Peace.
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Peace,
Please let this al-amiyr be, we just pollute this forum with posts of personal attacks. Only the weak-minded will fall victim to the incoherent language he uses. The ideas are poorly articulated and makes it just sound like someone who has been smoking too much funny stuff. Unless the main ideas are not more clearly laid out no intelligent being will take them seriously.
Sick or not sick, it is difficult to diagnose on such a brief study. Even if it seems that he suffers from delusions of grandeur.
May God forgive us.
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I will read all of your other posts. I just got to read a couple. I am just exhausted. Had a very long day. I can barely keep my eyes open now and most certainly can't think straight. Gosh, this has been going on and on. I am getting to the point of not caring. I logged in to see if al-amiyr answered my questions but of course, disappointed again. brickwall I think you are right that if he hasn't answered my simple straight forward questions by now then he is not going to. Well, I am going to bed now as my eyes are starting to cross here.
Anyhow, thanks for your concerns. May I ask what you mean by having a background in psychiatry? Are you a psychiatrist? Are you a non-hadith follower? I dont think i saw your intro. forgive me if you did, but i am really exhausted now. What made you decide to join this forum? Would like to know and it would help to know who you are. Hopefully, you will answer my questions. Ok I really need to be in bed now. Goodnight.
But look at the compromise we made but now you seem to speak a different tone. Tell me why? Is it because you are about to see that all your questions are going to be answered.
Do you know that I spent 15 hours working on your questions. You asked me to answer one or two per day. I did not just give you a short silly answer but also began providing you with backed up facts.
Remember one thing and that is that ALLAAH is aware of all our actions. Let me remind you of our agreement which you yourself wrote online for all the world to read.I think this a good compromise. Don't get me wrong, I too want to read all of your 20 posts. I would appreciate if you could also help me along by answering one of my simple questions one day at a time. It is like you read the Koran but you also want to know who prophet Muhammed was. Just the same, I want to know who you are.
Actually, I think that I have not asked you nearly all the questions that I asked about prophet Muhammed and other messengers. Were they all suffering from delusional religious grandiosity? It is by way of questioning we learn and come to the truth. Don't you agree?
I am eagerly awaiting to read your posts and answers to my questions. So continue on. I am dying to know about your educational background. What is your profession? Do you hold degrees? You seem so highly intelligent.
My dear sister be wise. All my forefathers up to the prophet (S+) were teachers of ALLAAH and His Qur"aan. Almost all the prophets in the Qur'aan are linked to one family. ALLAAH says that His sunnah will never change. One of the ways in which to identify false prophets is to see if they possess a genealogy. Do not take risks. Your entire future is at stake if you do that. Make the right choice! Seek the knowledge! Do not accept what I have to say. First listen and study and then draw your own conclusions based on knowledge. Do you think that it is right for any body to advise someone else not even to give another a hearing? I leave that thought with you.
May ALLAAH guide all inshaa allaah.
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Do you know that I spent 15 hours working on your questions. You asked me to answer one or two per day. I did not just give you a short silly answer but also began providing you with backed up facts.
Perhaps like IAMOP mentioned, one could work on disseminating the so called knowledge instead of wasting time. Unless that's the game plan 'I'll just claim these agents of ShayTaan waylaid me'...seeing as how allegedly it's in the blood to pass the knowledge on, spending time on diatribes and exchanging volleys doesn't seem like the best way to execute one's mission in life... or to be unaware of distractions and not stay focused when al amiyr himself claims we must beware such. -
Perhaps like IAMOP mentioned, one could work on disseminating the so called knowledge instead of wasting time. Unless that's the game plan 'I'll just claim these agents of ShayTaan waylaid me'...seeing as how allegedly it's in the blood to pass the knowledge on, spending time on diatribes and exchanging volleys doesn't seem like the best way to execute one's mission in life... or to be unaware of distractions and not stay focused when al amiyr himself claims we must beware such.
Well I agree. I think al-amiyr must not get involved in these kind of debates. I joined the forum to learn more.Recommended by a friend who knows al-amiyr. I live near cape town am not Moslem but I am eager to learn more about various religions. I have also asked two friends to join but these petty fights is a put off.
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Well I agree. I think al-amiyr must not get involved in these kind of debates. I joined the forum to learn more.Recommended by a friend who knows al-amiyr. I live near cape town am not Moslem but I am eager to learn more about various religions. I have also asked two friends to join but these petty fights is a put off.
Salaam
Have you seen the sudden campaigns against brother al-amiyr. This was predicted by him in "ShayTaan And His Allies In The World's Forums" thread. Do not worry insha allaah no more tricks by ShayTeen will work.
True believers will rejoiceThe Sword of Truth has arrived to slay falsehood
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to establish its dominion over where it rightfully belongs.Salaam
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Salaam
Have you seen the sudden campaigns against brother al-amiyr. This was predicted by him in "ShayTaan And His Allies In The World's Forums" thread. Do not worry insha allaah no more tricks by ShayTeen will work.
True believers will rejoiceThe Sword of Truth has arrived to slay falsehood
and
to establish its dominion over where it rightfully belongs.Salaam
as-salaamu "alaykum sister farida
Thanks always to support the knowledge of ALLAAH as He wrote it in the Qur'aan. Until in the tenth of this month I have a mission to prove as outlined on the first. But since that very moment the onslaughts began one after the other. Strange that none actually challenged the knowledge that I presented. That in itself must tell you something. Have you seen the latest campaign to declare me a madman. I feel honored by it. Did you know that every messenger that ALLAAH sent into the world was declared madmen. The only exception to this was the people of Jonah.
This will be my last response. Two subjects will be the focus of my attention inshaa allaah. ALL those who are waiting for the knowledge can keep this as my final word inshaa allaah.wa "alaykum-us-salaam.
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Well I agree. I think al-amiyr must not get involved in these kind of debates. I joined the forum to learn more.Recommended by a friend who knows al-amiyr. I live near cape town am not Moslem but I am eager to learn more about various religions. I have also asked two friends to join but these petty fights is a put off.
Really, not Moslem but wanting to learn about various religions and rather than learning about various religions on the whole wide internet you end up on this forum blatantly egging this particular dude on? Is this your post here I am a Sunni and I speak Arabic and can read the Quran in its original language, can you? Did you suffer a momentary lapse of confused identity syndrome? With Space Traveler perchance? Is Moslem not equated to Sunni in your parlance? Whatever you say.
Given you plus your 2 'friends', there are a lot more than several accounts and possibly more from the Holy Mountain area all in the span of weeks apparently just for this purpose, some are even waiting in the wings for their chance to shine with zero posts...you must think we're morons. Al-amiyr and his henchies can consider this a warning. We're done playing games.
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as-salaamu "alaykum sister farida
Thanks always to support the knowledge of ALLAAH as He wrote it in the Qur'aan. Until in the tenth of this month I have a mission to prove as outlined on the first. But since that very moment the onslaughts began one after the other. Strange that none actually challenged the knowledge that I presented. That in itself must tell you something. Have you seen the latest campaign to declare me a madman. I feel honored by it. Did you know that every messenger that ALLAAH sent into the world was declared madmen. The only exception to this was the people of Jonah.
This will be my last response. Two subjects will be the focus of my attention inshaa allaah. ALL those who are waiting for the knowledge can keep this as my final word inshaa allaah.wa "alaykum-us-salaam.
Salaam
You know I am right here I have PMed you
There is no turning back insha allaah
Will get bk to you soon insha allaah
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Peace Amnew.
By all means refute al-amiyr, give your views and opinions. However most brothers and sisters in this forum trust in God Alone. They will make up their own mind.
They are not going to follow you, me, al-amiyr or anyone else when it comes to "Deen".
They have God and His word.
But thanks anyway.
Peace.
8 49. Lo! the hypocrites say, and those in whose hearts is a disease "These people,- their religion has misled them." But if any trust in Allah, behold! Allah is Exalted in might, Wise.
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Peace Farida.
May the Lord forgive you for you do not know what you are saying.
I hope you are not clouded from the truth.
Peace.
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Peace Farida.
May the Lord forgive you for you do not know what you are saying.
I hope you are not clouded from the truth.
Peace.
9 68. Allah hath promised the Hypocrites men and women, and the rejecters, of Faith, the fire of Hell Therein shall they dwell Sufficient is it for them for them is the curse of Allah, and an enduring punishment,-
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Salaam
Have you seen the sudden campaigns against brother al-amiyr. This was predicted by him in "ShayTaan And His Allies In The World's Forums" thread. Do not worry insha allaah no more tricks by ShayTeen will work.
True believers will rejoiceThe Sword of Truth has arrived to slay falsehood
and
to establish its dominion over where it rightfully belongs.Salaam
Peace farida,
I remember from your prior posts that you are a very level-headed person. Yet here you seem captivated by this gentleman's words.
Have you ever met an enlightened being or a realised person? Or those who have truly reached awakening? Have you ever seen how they act and behave?
Do they delve into futile dramas? Does for example the Dalai Lama descend into a vitriolic argument with a heckler in the crowd? Have you heard of Jesus slapping people that disagree with his sandals? Did prophet Muhammad waste his time on juvenile fools? Did prophet Abraham run around talking to people wishing to make noise in a futile effort to silence them?
No doubt that all of these persons had their faults. Muhammad directed his attention to the rich kafirun thinking of power in the vain hope that he could convert them. Consequently he was rebuked by the Supreme in Wisdom. Moses killed a man. Jonah just said "fuck this shit" and went off. But as you can see, God always catches up.
Did ALLAH say that you can tell the deaf to hear and the blind to see if you just try hard enough?
Abraham, Muhammad, Moses, Noah, did these persons say "I will give you the book of knowledge but just wait a few days while I address these hecklers in the crowd and ridicule them for a bit"?
I am waiting for this knowledge. So far, a lot of talk. And yet still, no direct connection to the quran. Just like Code 19. And a lot of egotism. Beings who are centered in peace do not feel the need to defend frail egos and such conduct is not beseeming of them.
2563 - And the servants of (Allah) Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, "Peace!";
peace
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Peace farida,
I remember from your prior posts that you are a very level-headed person. Yet here you seem captivated by this gentleman's words.
peace
Pay heed to the following warning from ALLAAH in His Qur'aan.
Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of right -
them will I turn away from My signs
Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them;
and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way;
but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt.
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Pay heed to the following warning from ALLAAH in His Qur'aan.
Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of right -
them will I turn away from My signs
Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them;
and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way;
but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt.
For they have rejected our signs, and failed to take warning from them.I am aware of this warning. Are you aware that this applies to both sides of this debate? Nobody is an exception.
Remember
494 - O you who believe! when you go to war in allah's way, make investigation, and do not say to any one who offers you peace You are not a believer. Do you seek goods of this world's life! But with allah there are abundant gains; you too were such before, then allah conferred a benefit on you; therefore make investigation; surely allah is aware of what you do.
So why have you ignored the questions? Is your accusation of arrogant rejection going to stand up on the judgement day? Why have you suspended critical thought of this gentleman? As a believer in Muhammad, Abraham, Noah, Moses et al, I could only believe in their truth after chiselling away the fluff surrounding them, thusly coming to the conclusion that these beings are genuine towards God. Without such faculties of critical thought this becomes cult-worship, it is shirk.
Keep in mind I am waiting to see what our friend Al-Amiyr is going to produce. It sounds good but I have yet to see a single direct connection to the quran. That is after all, the whole point of his message, is it not? So why is it not here? What is this mystical thing that needs to be revealed and why does our friend revel in seeking attention instead of delivering the message that supposedly God ordained him to? If he indeed comes through with the truth then you will find that I have not once stood contrary to the truth of the book, I am sure you can read my posts and see that. God is my teacher and I need no more.
But know that if he is revealed to be a fraud, then what have you lowered yourself to?
Keep also in mind that you have no idea precisely to whom you are talking to on the internet. Thus it is profoundly unwise to throw accusations of hypocrisy or arrogance except with direct evidence.
I see many possibilities here. The obvious one of fraudulent attention seeking. Another one of a truth-realised being, behaving in a strange fashion for a reason purposefully made not yet apparent - this does actually happen a lot for the purpose of the deliverance of a lesson see Khidr & Moses in the quran for example. Or another one of a truth-realised being, who is young and does not yet know how to keep his mind on a leash and is rather eager/overly enthusiastic. Or still another one of a being who is in the heights of mania and borderline personality pathology.
God knows all, God sees all.
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I am aware of this warning. Are you aware that this applies to both sides of this debate? Nobody is an exception.
Remember
494 - O you who believe! when you go to war in allah's way, make investigation, and do not say to any one who offers you peace You are not a believer. Do you seek goods of this world's life! But with allah there are abundant gains; you too were such before, then allah conferred a benefit on you; therefore make investigation; surely allah is aware of what you do.
God knows all, God sees all.
Salaam IAMOP
I think the same applies to brother al-amiyr, who has been accused of all sorts of things, before investigation, ie before he could finish his lessons. Look above and read 4.94 and this time apply it to brother al-amiyr.I know that you are sincere and have good in your heart. You do not have bad intentions; in fact I believe the same goes for many on this forum. However the simple fact is that I see all Al amiyr's guidance taken from the Qur'an and some of the hadith too and that is mind blowing; if only you could see.
Just before I saw your reply my attention was drawn to one of threads, started here by brother Bender, and alhumdullilah it's amazing what is unfolding in front of our eyes. Insha'Allaah all will soon be known; as Truth will become clear from Falsehood insha allaah.
May ALLAH guide us all to the righ path.
Take care, and keep searching for the right path and knowledge.
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Peace,
Sick or not sick, it is difficult to diagnose on such a brief study. Even if it seems that he suffers from delusions of grandeur.
Al-amiyr has made clear that only he has secret knowledge from prophet Muhammed that will bring you from darkness. his is (not seems) to have religious delusions of grandeur. He has made his intentions and himself obviously clear but some here are not seeing that.
Someone with background in psychiatry who is knowledgeable and has studied about cults, manipulation, mind control, and has treated persons with personality disorders such as narcissistic, sociopathy, multiple personality would be able to recognize such persons.
Now,you don't need to be a psychiatrist to know that something is not right. I looked at the profiles of those who have been supporting al-amiyr. It doesn't strike you as being odd that most of them joined last month? Did it occur to you that some or most of these supporters could just be al-amiyr starting different accounts? The administrators can look into it.
I don't know what al-amiyr's diagnosis is but I know when something is not right. And I know all too well how satan works.
Here's another website to checkout http//www.truthonthenet.com/profile_of_a_cult_leader.htm. Let's not be naive.