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The Quraan: Learn To Read It Almost Immediately.

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    IronFist
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    Please do post whatever is left of this lesson soon, as i see some of us are waiting, and have been for days....
    So far has been quite instructive....

    Come on al-amiyr. We are all waiting for this lesson as well. Thanks for the Pm but we need it sooner than later.

    Thank you in advance

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      farida
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      Come on al-amiyr. We are all waiting for this lesson as well. Thanks for the Pm but we need it sooner than later.

      Thank you in advance

      Salaam
      Oh please can't you see that this lesson is already going on in "Entering the Hidden Book...", we are now at the forming the letter stage and see how it formed with the use of vowls.
      I just worry for brother al-amiyr how can he respond to all our emails, and address some others on this forum, and at the same time prepare and give lessons? After all he is only human.
      Peace

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        IronFist
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        Salaam
        Oh please can't you see that this lesson is already going on in "Entering the Hidden Book...", we are now at the forming the letter stage and see how it formed with the use of vowls.
        I just worry for brother al-amiyr how can he respond to all our emails, and address some others on this forum, and at the same time prepare and give lessons? After all he is only human.
        Peace

        Selam sister farida

        I was just pulling brother al-amiyr's leg. I am more interested in the hidden book thread where the origin of the letters are discussed. I agree with you. brother al-amiyr must be workig hard. Whenever I look then I see him online. I go regularly to his forum where there is a category leading to other forums where he is also having discussions.

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          SpaceTraveler
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          Salaam
          Oh please can't you see that this lesson is already going on in "Entering the Hidden Book...", we are now at the forming the letter stage and see how it formed with the use of vowls.
          I just worry for brother al-amiyr how can he respond to all our emails, and address some others on this forum, and at the same time prepare and give lessons? After all he is only human.
          Peace

          I agree! let us just have some patience.

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            al-amiyr
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            Peace again al-amiyr As i was beginning my study of "Entering the Hidden Book...", it occured to me that your PM to me about this thread is un-finished, and i am confused about you asking me if i wanted to have you post the connected Arabic. Was that not already going to be part of this dangling lesson plan. Please do post whatever is left of this lesson soon, as i see some of us are waiting, and have been for days....
            So far has been quite instructive....

            Peace
            For all wishing to read the Qur'aanic Arabic in the connected form, here is a diagram explaining five letters forming a similar group. I shall present the others and furnish examples in due time inshaa allaah. Let me know if there is anything else for now.

            Peace

            http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Ar.Alph.connected2.png

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              alleycats
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              Peace al-amiyr and Thank You! Looking forward to more.... Have a prosperous and blessed 2013! handshake

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                al-amiyr
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                Peace al-amiyr and Thank You! Looking forward to more.... Have a prosperous and blessed 2013! handshake

                Peace Alleycats

                I posted a lot of Arabic writing in Post 14 of Entering the Hidden Book. You may as well check that out as well. Give me some feedback on your progress. For example, "What are your particular requirements at this stage?"

                Peace

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                  alleycats
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                  Peace back al-amiyr What gives??
                  The Post 14, which i reviewed yesterday and this morn, IS NOT a lesson in connected Arabic by any means. Will you please follow your promise to post the rest of this lesson, as being able to READ the connected Arabic is a very important tool for any student of the Qur'an, don't you agree?

                  Now you're referring me to The Hidden Book again? This lesson here couldn't be that hard to cut and paste. When you are ready, i'll be waiting. Anyway, why the turnabout?

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                    IAMOP
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                    Peace...

                    This is actually incredible. It is amazing. I am still wondering why there is such drama and bizarre claims in the other threads, such hand-waving. Such juvenile responses to juvenile people, accusations of this and that.

                    Yet here, just from looking at the way you have grouped the letters in the first picture and doing as you said with the vocalisations, I observe the elegance of the Arabic orthography. It is incredibly systematic. Each letter derives from the other.

                    There is also an element of mathematical topology inherent to the letters. They literally have an intrinsic meaning as you have claimed. The design of each letter shapes and flows directly according to its sound, and this I observe from just 5 minutes of vocalising the consonantal sounds. Consequently the shapes of the letters also determine the position of the tongue in the mouth in a rigorous fashion. Interesting to say the least, it does raise questions about how Arabic originated on Earth as it practically looks more like a language designed with scientific purpose than something that evolved fluidly out of people just living their lives. For that matter God designed all language with scientific purpose but it is exceedingly striking here in particular.

                    So at least here you have put your money where your mouth is, even if thus far you have not directly mapped your understandings to the quran. As you know the quran is what this forum revolves around on and we generally do not accept things which do not have a direct one to one basis with the verses of the quran. So I suggest that if you want to quell these supposed "ShayTaans" you actually deliver your message. Why are hecklers being asked to stay quiet and cease questioning, when it is your responsibility as a supposed bearer of truth to deliver that truth?

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                      al-amiyr
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                      Peace...

                      This is actually incredible. It is amazing. I am still wondering why there is such drama and bizarre claims in the other threads, such hand-waving. Such juvenile responses to juvenile people, accusations of this and that.

                      Yet here, just from looking at the way you have grouped the letters in the first picture and doing as you said with the vocalisations, I observe the elegance of the Arabic orthography. It is incredibly systematic. Each letter derives from the other.

                      There is also an element of mathematical topology inherent to the letters. They literally have an intrinsic meaning as you have claimed. The design of each letter shapes and flows directly according to its sound, and this I observe from just 5 minutes of vocalising the consonantal sounds. Consequently the shapes of the letters also determine the position of the tongue in the mouth in a rigorous fashion. Interesting to say the least, it does raise questions about how Arabic originated on Earth as it practically looks more like a language designed with scientific purpose than something that evolved fluidly out of people just living their lives. For that matter God designed all language with scientific purpose but it is exceedingly striking here in particular.

                      So at least here you have put your money where your mouth is, even if thus far you have not directly mapped your understandings to the quran. As you know the quran is what this forum revolves around on and we generally do not accept things which do not have a direct one to one basis with the verses of the quran. So I suggest that if you want to quell these supposed "ShayTaans" you actually deliver your message. Why are hecklers being asked to stay quiet and cease questioning, when it is your responsibility as a supposed bearer of truth to deliver that truth?

                      Peace

                      I would appreciate it if you could point out these faults. Perhaps I might see what I do not see. And I can work on it. Perhaps you might have the picture the wrong way. Maybe not. Do not just say something. Also show so that lessons can be gained inshaa allaah.
                      Also pay close attention to the Entering The Hidden Book thread. I am working quite hard on all the delineations. From the next post things will become easier and the patterns will begin to be seen. You will also begin to realize what AWM means and how it results from brahman. Also A_L_M will become understandable. You will take the program and begin to recognize the meaning of words. After that many things you have wondered before will become realized as long as you learn the letters and the few rules given inshaa allaah.

                      peace

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                        raspberry_red
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                        Salaam,

                        I read your thread and I found it interesting since it helped me to learn very well the Arabic alphabet which I didn't know at all.
                        So thanks to you I learnt it, thank you very much.
                        Also I saw you online recently, and I just wonder if you will continue this thread-lessons. It would be great if you continue them, many other members I saw replying and I were enjoying them! Please can you continue them? Tell me more.
                        Thank you and salaam.

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                          al-amiyr
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                          Salaam,

                          I read your thread and I found it interesting since it helped me to learn very well the Arabic alphabet which I didn't know at all.
                          So thanks to you I learnt it, thank you very much.
                          Also I saw you online recently, and I just wonder if you will continue this thread-lessons. It would be great if you continue them, many other members I saw replying and I were enjoying them! Please can you continue them? Tell me more.
                          Thank you and salaam.

                          salaam+

                          Just let me know how far you are. I have prepared lessons in advance and will be very willing to take you further inshaa ALLAAH.

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                            raspberry_red
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                            Thank you very much, I would like to learn how we join the letters of the Arabic alphabet please, and how we form words.

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                              Indelwyn
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                              I agree with Red Raspberry. I am starting to learn and comprehend on something I never thought possible. I have struggled so much with the Arabic language. I have taken classes and courses only to receive a failing mark, almost ready to give up.

                              Please continue, I find all of this very interesting and fascinating. I have some questions but I am waiting to finish digesting everything. Do you have this all in a book format?

                              Thanks for taking your time to share, I can see it was not always easy, nor welcomed, but I appreciate it.

                              Take Care

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                                al-amiyr
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                                I agree with Red Raspberry. I am starting to learn and comprehend on something I never thought possible. I have struggled so much with the Arabic language. I have taken classes and courses only to receive a failing mark, almost ready to give up.

                                Please continue, I find all of this very interesting and fascinating. I have some questions but I am waiting to finish digesting everything. Do you have this all in a book format?

                                Thanks for taking your time to share, I can see it was not always easy, nor welcomed, but I appreciate it.

                                Take Care

                                Thank you very much! I will make this my priority. Within two days I will reactivate these lessons inshaa ALLAAH. I discussed with others and I have a good idea where to begin. Could you give some input, as to where you are at this stage of Arabic reading. Do you already know the alphabet? Do you know the short and long vowels? Can you read the letters when they are joined? I wait for your reply. If you wish I can also give you personal lessons online which will guide you to be able to read Arabic within two weeks inshaa ALLAAH.

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                                  raspberry_red
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                                  Salaam,

                                  Thank you Indelwin.
                                  And thank you very much al-amiyr again for your lessons, eager to read the following lessons soon.

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                                    Lena
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                                    +salaam Lena

                                    Thank you very much. I try my best to make people see for themselves what is inside the Qur'aan. And the first thing they must do is to become literate and learn the language of the Qur'aan.

                                    Don't be concerned about the the different forms the letters are written to be joined. It is a one page explanation and will be understood immediately. It is as simple as that.
                                    I would like to ask you these questions
                                    1)- Do you already know the full alphabet?
                                    2)- Do you already know how to use the vowels?
                                    3)- Do you already know how the vowels are lengthened?

                                    What are the main problems you are having learning to read and write. Let me know inshaa allaah.
                                    (note; there are twenty-nine letters in the alphabet- 28 consonants and a special letter called 'alif)

                                    +salaam

                                    Yes to all 3 of your questions but now the challenge is how to retain the middle and end forms of all 28 letters in my memory???!!! Still working on that.

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                                      al-amiyr
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                                      Yes to all 3 of your questions but now the challenge is how to retain the middle and end forms of all 28 letters in my memory???!!! Still working on that.

                                      +salaam Lena

                                      There is no problem. You will be surprised that I can teach you this in a couple of hours. Raspberry Red can read Arabic now perfectly and write it as well. She learned everything from scratch not knowing more than a handful of letters She is a student at a University in Lille France and she was determined to learn. At present she is learning Arabic very well and inshaa ALLAAH I hope that she would be able to converse in Arabic before the year is out. I tell you this to encourage you to go for it and how easy it is. Let me know and then I will work out a program for you inshaa ALLAAH.

                                      +salaam

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        Salaam al-amiyr,

                                        This thread has been immensely helpful in my beginning to learn Arabic. I just want to express my gratitude at the effort of making the lessons, so thank you very much.

                                        If you do plan to continue, I would personally love to learn how to read words, maybe using common vocabulary from the Qur'an. If not, do not worry. I am taking classes as well so I will manage fine, Insha'Allah.

                                        JazakAllah khayr

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