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What is السَّاعَةَ

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    farida
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    Salaam farida,

    As per my understanding is "the/an hour", referring to the subject/context. Hope this may help inshaAllah.

    May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
    mmKhan

    Salaam

    No it does not help. I know it means "the/an hour", if you care to look I added a verse for this question so could you elaborate further in that context.
    Salaam

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      Mazhar
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      Salaam

      No it does not help. I know it means "the/an hour", if you care to look I added a verse for this question so could you elaborate further in that context.
      Salaam

      The appointed point in time for the termination of our present universe. It will begin with a big bang. And disintegration process will start. All living will experience natural death. Thereafter, second bang will resurrect life. This is what is called the Last Day, the Day of Resurrection, the Day of Assembly, the Day of Requital, the Day of separation .

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        mmkhan
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        Salaam

        No it does not help. I know it means "the/an hour", if you care to look I added a verse for this question so could you elaborate further in that context.
        Salaam

        Salaam farida,

        Sorry if it does not help. Your question was simply "what is "

        Anyways, you have quoted the aayat 59 from sura 40. As I said in my previous post, the usage of is based on its context. I will try to explain what I understand by 4059 inshaAllah.

        4058
        4058 And not equal are the blind and the seeing, nor are those who believe and do righteous deeds and the evildoer. Little do you remember.

        4059
        4059 Indeed, the Hour is coming - no doubt about it - but most of the people do not believe.

        I understand that the hour will come when those who are blind and the one seeing will be shown clearly that they are not equal. The one who believe and do righteous deeds and the evildoer will be exposed that they are not equal. Many people don't remember this, which is said in end part of 4058 and many people don't know about this, said in 4059. This is how I take it.

        May Allah forgive me and correct me if I am wrong in my understanding pr
        mmKhan

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          Shirley
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          Farida,

          Salaamun 'Alaiykum,

          I personally do not believe this is talking about an "End of The World" ordeal, but rather it is referring to the time when The Quranic Revolution takes place. I think many, many, MANY people truly doubt such a thing will ever happen, but if we observe the world today and how people think and view things now compared to 50, 70, 90 or 100 years ago, we would see a steady progress in two things Our thinking process and knowledge of certain things in life.

          We are approaching the time to where eventually The true message of The Quran would be discovered, ascertained, understood and IMPLEMENTED on a very wide scale.

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            farida
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            Salaam farida,

            Sorry if it does not help. Your question was simply "what is "

            Anyways, you have quoted the aayat 59 from sura 40. As I said in my previous post, the usage of is based on its context. I will try to explain what I understand by 4059 inshaAllah.

            4058
            4058 And not equal are the blind and the seeing, nor are those who believe and do righteous deeds and the evildoer. Little do you remember.

            4059
            4059 Indeed, the Hour is coming - no doubt about it - but most of the people do not believe.

            I understand that the hour will come when those who are blind and the one seeing will be shown clearly that they are not equal. The one who believe and do righteous deeds and the evildoer will be exposed that they are not equal. Many people don't remember this, which is said in end part of 4058 and many people don't know about this, said in 4059. This is how I take it.

            May Allah forgive me and correct me if I am wrong in my understanding pr
            mmKhan

            Peace mmk

            I think with this post you are quite helpful not only to me but may be to yourself by bringing in 4058, you went on to explain how you interpret 40;58 but when it came to the surah 40;59 you just discussed first part and left the final part of the surah, may be you can reflect on that section now so you get the bigger picture insha allaah.

            salaam

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              farida
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              The appointed point in time for the termination of our present universe. It will begin with a big bang. And disintegration process will start. All living will experience natural death. Thereafter, second bang will resurrect life. This is what is called the Last Day, the Day of Resurrection, the Day of Assembly, the Day of Requital, the Day of separation .

              Salaam brother

              I made three threads so that we can study each term/concept individually but again you have put all three in one, which I do not think serves the purpose of opening a seperate thread for each term. Also if you would follow the colour pattern for each event that may also help us to see the above scenario insha allaah.

              Salaam

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                mmkhan
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                Peace mmk

                I think with this post you are quite helpful not only to me but may be to yourself by bringing in 4058, you went on to explain how you interpret 40;58 but when it came to the surah 40;59 you just discussed first part and left the final part of the surah, may be you can reflect on that section now so you get the bigger picture insha allaah.

                salaam

                Peace farida,

                Do you mean the remaining part of sura 40? That means from 4060-85? I don't think you are referring to that. Can you please point out what you mean.

                May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
                mmKhan

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                  farida
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                  Peace farida,

                  Do you mean the remaining part of sura 40? That means from 4060-85? I don't think you are referring to that. Can you please point out what you mean.

                  May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
                  mmKhan

                  Salaam brother
                  I was referring to this part of 40;59;

                  salaam

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                    farida
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                    Farida,

                    Salaamun 'Alaiykum,

                    We are approaching the time to where eventually The true message of The Quran would be discovered, ascertained, understood and IMPLEMENTED on a very wide scale.

                    wa alaiykum salaam

                    Shouldn't we say the true message IN the Qur'an?

                    salaam

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                      Shirley
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                      No Sis, I deliberately wrote (and meant) the message OF The Quran.

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                        bkanwar2
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                        what is

                        salaam

                        Before discussing the meanings let us decide. Is it a word or derived word. It has more than 3 letter so it can not be only basic triliteral word. It has to be a derived word. So what is this word's waazan? based upon this its root could be either Siin-Waw-Ayn, or Siin-Ya-Ayn.

                        Now please apply formula of the language "root meanings + meanings of waazan" = meaning of the word. So please use this formula to find out meaning.

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                          mmkhan
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                          Salaam brother
                          I was referring to this part of 40;59;

                          salaam

                          Salaam farida,

                          Thanks for mentioning it. But I think I wrote that... didn't I? hmm

                          Ah here it is...


                          I understand that the hour will come when those who are blind and the one seeing will be shown clearly that they are not equal. The one who believe and do righteous deeds and the evildoer will be exposed that they are not equal. Many people don't remember this, which is said in end part of 4058 and many people don't know about this, said in 4059. This is how I take it.


                          Do you mean something else? hmm

                          May Allah bless you,
                          mmKhan

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                            farida
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                            Salaam farida,

                            Thanks for mentioning it. But I think I wrote that... didn't I? hmm

                            Ah here it is...


                            said in end part of 4058 and many people don't know about this, said in 4059. This is how I take it.


                            Do you mean something else? hmm

                            May Allah bless you,
                            mmKhan

                            salaam mmkhan
                            This is how you take confused

                            I am learning Quranic Arabic from Imam al-amiyr, which may not appeal to you, so it will serve no purpose to discuss that with you.

                            salaam.

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                              farida
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                              No Sis, I deliberately wrote (and meant) the message OF The Quran.

                              salaam sis
                              That is interesting. It may educate me if you could share with me what you mean by message of the Quran, because to me the message/guidance is in the Quran.

                              salaam

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                                Shirley
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                                salaam sis
                                That is interesting. It may educate me if you could share with me what you mean by message of the Quran, because to me the message/guidance is in the Quran.

                                salaam

                                Because I am speaking about it's outlines, mandates and constitution which more and more people are discovering even without having any contact with the Mushaf that you are speaking of. The verse quoted (2/2) does not speak on THE MESSAGE.

                                Salaam.

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                                  farida
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                                  Because I am speaking about it's outlines, mandates and constitution which more and more people are discovering even without having any contact with the Mushaf that you are speaking of. The verse quoted (2/2) does not speak on THE MESSAGE.

                                  Salaam.

                                  I am speaking about

                                  peace

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                                    Shirley
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                                    Salaam Farida,

                                    Okay, you and I are talking about two different things then. Sorry for interrupting your thread.

                                    peace

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                                      farida
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                                      Salaam Farida,

                                      Okay, you and I are talking about two different things then.

                                      peace

                                      Or two different Program

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                                        mmkhan
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                                        salaam mmkhan
                                        This is how you take confused

                                        I am learning Quranic Arabic from Imam al-amiyr, which may not appeal to you, so it will serve no purpose to discuss that with you.

                                        salaam.

                                        Salaam,

                                        Good luck!

                                        May Allah bless you,
                                        mmKhan

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