Sex Question
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Peace all,
Except for anal sex, one can enjoy kissing, caressing, touching and fondling with the entire body including hair, chest, thighs, legs, feet, hands, face, bottoms, back, ears, etc. before even getting ready to "indulge". A soothing sensual massage could be pleasing as well, and vice versa, which both partners can enjoy, not to mention the begging positions.
A HOT topic, hopefully not revolting/embarrasing. Just my side of views.
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Joe What majority thinks is not necessarily true. Right.
However personally I believe anal sex is wrong(the majority) until proven otherwise.... Unless proven otherwise ACE-I therapy should be continued lifelong ...
... any unconscious patient from unknown cause at a farm,
research or industrial setting to have toxic exposure unless proven otherwise. ...Any cardiac intracavitary mass in an infant is suggestive for a cardiac
rhabdomyoma unless proven otherwise.... death is a tragedy, two is suspicious and three is murder, unless proven otherwise
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Peace be upon you all,
Very good discussion.
Some observations I have are the following, sexual acts stimulate the animal side of the human, so when looking at animals themselves, they do not appear to just have sex with no purpose.
I do not think that massaging is wrong because the hands are made to manipulate things, which is why our thumbs are placed where they are. But when we talk about oral pleasure, the mouth/tounge do not appear to be designed for that. We taste and consume things for energy, there is nothing "tasty" about oral "pleasure", which is why they sell all kinds of fruit flavored lotions, etc.
When a man and woman get sexually excited, the man becomes "firm" and the woman becomes "moist", what does that point to? Where do those signs guide us? To the mouth? Or the rear end?
The God tells us constantly to remain chaste and to get married, I think what is being said is that we should select the best mate, one who has faith in the God/the God's system, and then when you have sex you procrerate and raise a child according to the God's system.
I do not think there is anything wrong to have sex the proper way for just enjoyment from time to time, but it should not go to the excess. That is how I see it at this point.
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A question to think about is WHY would a person want to have oral or anal sex? Is sex not pleasurable enough to have sex in the manner that was designed , penis in vagina?
Salam idolfree,
Some men have premature ejaculation and most women climax too long plus some other sexual problems that take away sexual pleasure. Yes sometimes the simple penis in vagina sex is not pleasureable enough.
Peace!
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Impure is Forbidden
Salam all,
Is there anything in the Quran that indicates that oral sex, anal sex, or any other kind of kinky sex done with your SPOUSE is discouraged?006.145
Say I do not find in that which has been revealed to me anything forbidden for an eater to eat of except that it be what has died of itself, or blood poured forth, or flesh of swine-- For That Surely Is UNCLEAN-002.222
And they ask you about menstruation. Say It is an illness ; therefore keep aloof from the women during the menstrual discharge and do not go near them until they have become clean; then when they have cleansed themselves, go in to them as Allah has commanded you; surely Allah loves those who turn much , and He loves those who purify themselves.Go into them as Allah has commanded! So have intercourse as Allah has commanded. Allah commands PURITY. The rest of the courses are but your OWN desires and deviation from the truthfulness. You know what is pure and what is impure. Soap and water; detergent and sterilization canot bring on the intended purity. There are parts impure in our body and they are!
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Peace All,
This thread is worn out. Too much personal info. shock Too many what would you do going on. Next we will be hearing your pillow talk. Let it rest we get the point.
Peace
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Impure is Forbidden
Salam all,
Is there anything in the Quran that indicates that oral sex, anal sex, or any other kind of kinky sex done with your SPOUSE is discouraged?006.145
Say I do not find in that which has been revealed to me anything forbidden for an eater to eat of except that it be what has died of itself, or blood poured forth, or flesh of swine-- For That Surely Is UNCLEAN-002.222
And they ask you about menstruation. Say It is an illness ; therefore keep aloof from the women during the menstrual discharge and do not go near them until they have become clean; then when they have cleansed themselves, go in to them as Allah has commanded you; surely Allah loves those who turn much , and He loves those who purify themselves.Go into them as Allah has commanded! So have intercourse as Allah has commanded. Allah commands PURITY. The rest of the courses are but your OWN desires and deviation from the truthfulness. You know what is pure and what is impure. Soap and water; detergent and sterilization canot bring on the intended purity. There are parts impure in our body and they are!
How has Allah commanded us to go into them? How is oral and anal sex IMPURE? Anal sex - I could see how it is impure..but oral? How are our genitals and mouths IMPURE? What is wrong with pursuing our own desires if it does not violate any commandment of God?
From this discussion, it seems that God has not prohibited us nor even discouraged sex besides the penis in vagina type..as long as we do it with our own spouses.
Peace!
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How has Allah commanded us to go into them? How is oral and anal sex IMPURE? Anal sex - I could see how it is impure..but oral?
It is good that you have understood today anus is impure.. It is only a matter of time before you conclude penis and vagina too are foul.
From this discussion, it seems that God has not prohibited us nor even discouraged sex besides the penis in vagina type..as long as we do it with our own spouses.
God has asked you to wash only our hands and face and arms upto elbow and feet up to ankles whenever you go to toilet. He never said you should wash or cleanse the organs that pass motion and urine, for they are clean by themselves
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Peace be upon you,
Some men have premature ejaculation and most women climax too long plus some other sexual problems that take away sexual pleasure
I think when you live a righteuos and healthy style of living, those problems go away. When women use all kinds of toys as masturbation, and men get bombarded with sex all day long on the radio and tv, these types of abnormalities will develop, even homosexuality. The answer is to "face" the restricted masjid at ALL TIMES D To get back to a Godly lifestyle.
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How has Allah commanded us to go into them? How is oral and anal sex IMPURE? Anal sex - I could see how it is impure..but oral?
It is good that you have understood today anus is impure.. It is only a matter of time before you conclude penis and vagina too are foul.
That is only my perception of an anus..But regardless of my perception, I do not see any indication in the Quran that an anus is IMPURE. And so with the penis and the vagina..God never told us that those organs are impure nor foul.
From this discussion, it seems that God has not prohibited us nor even discouraged sex besides the penis in vagina type..as long as we do it with our own spouses.
God has asked you to wash only our hands and face and arms upto elbow and feet up to ankles whenever you go to toilet. He never said you should wash or cleanse the organs that pass motion and urine, for they are clean by themselves
So what makes them foul for you that you seem to dislike oral sex?
Peace!
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Peace be upon you,
Some men have premature ejaculation and most women climax too long plus some other sexual problems that take away sexual pleasure
I think when you live a righteuos and healthy style of living, those problems go away. When women use all kinds of toys as masturbation, and men get bombarded with sex all day long on the radio and tv, these types of abnormalities will develop, even homosexuality. The answer is to "face" the restricted masjid at ALL TIMES To get back to a Godly lifestyle.
Peace idolfree,
God has clearly condemned man to man sex and prescribed punishment for it and other types of fahsha. God knows that our society is an imperfect one and he has set limits on what we should or should not do. I think the Quran was designed to guide man how to live in this imperfect society, therefore, laws are prescribed in it.
Masturbation, sex aids, felatio, cunnilingus, anal sex look ikky yucky to the conservative types but their repugnance have no Quranic basis unless they are done outside marriage or excessively. I see nothing illegal in them. The only thing clearly discouraged by the Quran is sex during menstruation. Besides menstruation , I cannot see how we turn our backs from the restricted masjid with any kind of sexual act with one's spouse.
How do we judge? By another book?
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How has Allah commanded us to go into them? How is oral and anal sex IMPURE? Anal sex - I could see how it is impure..but oral?
Tony,
There is a deep reflection needed from our part to get at what Allah means when He says "as Allah had commanded to go into them". The book is a reminder of what we had forgotten. We indeed have forgotten the best part of our heart the soul and its wisdom. What we are now living with is the mind and its knowledgeTo me "as Allah had commnaded to go into them" means think and act. Allah will guide you. Go as He guuides you. It is a not matter to be discussed with the fellow people. Let it be secret and sacred! Do not ask no one but HIMSELF. Allah alone shall be the best guide into it.
You are right Tony. You made me realise " as Allah had commanded!"
I will go as He shows the Way, for His guidance is the Best and i turn to HIM alone.So what makes them foul for you that you seem to dislike oral sex?
I can discuss this. But it is not fitting to the dignity of the forum of islam; the discussion will be very dirty and annoying and embarrassing. Let each of us turn to Allah and follow as He Commands. this can be in no way public address. i conclude my corresprondence in this subject matter.
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Peace be upon you Tony,
Masturbation, sex aids, felatio, cunnilingus, anal sex look ikky yucky to the conservative types but their repugnance have no Quranic basis unless they are done outside marriage or excessively. I see nothing illegal in them. The only thing clearly discouraged by the Quran is sex during menstruation. Besides menstruation , I cannot see how we turn our backs from the restricted masjid with any kind of sexual act with one's spouse.
How do we judge? By another book?
We judge by the book of life. What is the anus used for? Answer that and we can continue.
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Peace be upon you Tony,
Masturbation, sex aids, felatio, cunnilingus, anal sex look ikky yucky to the conservative types but their repugnance have no Quranic basis unless they are done outside marriage or excessively. I see nothing illegal in them. The only thing clearly discouraged by the Quran is sex during menstruation. Besides menstruation , I cannot see how we turn our backs from the restricted masjid with any kind of sexual act with one's spouse.
How do we judge? By another book?
We judge by the book of life. What is the anus used for? Answer that and we can continue.
Salam Idolfree..
The anus is used for defacating. Using it for sex could cause some medical problems. The penis and vagina are used for urinating and copulation, the mouth is used for eating and speaking. Oral sex and normal coitus are not more harmful than the other.
I can see the evils of anal sex with regards to our health...thats what the book of life (the doctors) tells me. I don't hear (or read) the book of life declaring oral sex to be bad..in fact I hear it saying that oral sex could be a substitute for coitus especially when there is some sexual problem or danger of pregnancy.
But most important of all, I do not read it anywhere in the Quran that we should declare it bad, unless somebody shows me.
Peace!
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Peace be upon you Tony,
Yes, the anus if for defecating, not sex.
I am done with this thread.
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salam .
like Idolfree said " do not enter the houses from the back doors, enter from the proper doors".the homosexual sex illogical and unnatural ,because it is clear that a penis does not fit in another penis but in a vagina . in the same way .penis is designed for the vaina and not for the mouth .
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Peace everyone,
I'll add a side note relating to the topic under discussion.
Those who are familiar with the concept of life energy, commonly called Qi, as in for example QiGong, could understand that male ejaculation is a huge loss of energy. A great amount of energy is needed to be "inserted" into the sperms so that they 1) will be able to travel to the egg cell and 2) be able to give rise to a new energetic independent system (a new human being). This is of course not "established knowledge" as per "western scientific methods".
However, the main point is that excessive ejaculation is detremental to the internal energy of you - the energy that keeps you healthy, protects you from disease etc. So in this sense, alot of sex that always ends up in ejaculation is a good way of ageing quickly.
Like always, anything in excess is bad.
a link on this topic
http//www.taijiworld.com/Articles/sex.htm