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Lord of East and West , where went North and South?

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    357
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    peace

    The Quran says to Allah should belong the magrib and mashriq , if these are indeed east and west what happened to the north and south?

    2177 says attending to mashriq and magrib is not righteousness but ??

    It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing.

    2258 Allah indeed does one thing whilst the disputer did the opposite ? but what?

    Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said "I give life and death". Said Abraham "But it is Allah causeth the shamash to rise from the almashriq thou indeed do cause it to rise from the almagrib." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust.

    Didn?t he support his authority by unjust means, whilst Allah brought everything unjust open/visible to all.

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      There were some Jews who faced west in prayer (or at certain specific times), where as Christians faced East in prayer. I guess its related to this. It is what is in the heart, however. Nevertheless, I would not willingly or knowingly pray facing west my emotions clam up. When the high priest came out of the Temple shining with the divine glory, he would have come out facing east. For me to knowingly face west would be a sign of my denial of the Light of Allah. Nevertheless, I do not judge others " it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day"

      Richard

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        mirjamnur
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        Salam Richard
        the first time i hear about this- (this will not mean something, in fact i know nothing , this become always clearer....but i like to learn yes) so can you give me more ??? eat
        peace

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          Hi Richard,

          Of course there are verses saying no righteousness in facing east or west , but is that true.....lets see;

          On seeing the sun rise or fall you may experience an overwhelming feeling of reverence, admiration, fear , etc., produced by that which is grand, sublime, extremely powerful, or the like in awe of God.

          Now that can be in the east and west for some of us, so how can one say "no righteousness in facing east or west?"

          I bet the words mashriq and magrib don't mean east and west at all.

          but no harm in believing this neither i suppose.

          Just thinking into 2258 the one who disputed with Abraham , could have easily said "i bring the sun from the east tell your god to bring it from the west".........the point is it isn't about east and west at all but about what God does and what the disputer was doing where contrary.

          peace

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