To all of you Hijab supporters out there
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Salam Emil
Well said- i'm completly agree with you handshakeNote by us (EG) it's the Niqab which holds the same status as the beard.
peace peacefor answer your questions 1. without men or 'Quranic' men i didn't see any need for a hijab..
2. i'am wearing a hijab for many reasons- i don't like trouble (first with my husband and last for my children)
- i live in a country where much of womens wear it and it is a social tradition and if you wear it, then you are more respected
- and yes, i feel more save- because without hijab the mens are less respectful
- I like it because it is convenient and I'm rather lazy, what concerns styling my hair-and a protection against of the sun- no sunstroke ;D
again peace
Actually, I felt the opposite with hijab finding it very inconvenient. Pinning it and tucking it. Getting caught in the rain without an umbrella. Washing my hair was another issue as I had to completely dry my hair before putting on the hijab, etc. wearing a hijab in the summer - felt miserable.....
I have no issues at all with people dressing to show their identity or wearing a cross or Star of David or anything to identify their religious affiliations or ethnicity or culture - if anything i appreciate the diversity but the issue I have is what hijab has become. Looking down upon someone due to article of clothing is just wrong in my mind. The greatest issue that I have is when it is all attributed to God that commanded woman to cover every part of her body.
Back home if I don't wear a hijab, I am looked down upon and here if wear a hijab well I could be a target. Sigh.
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"......O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.
..."Does this verse not clearly show us that it was revealed, there were the wayward and hooligans in the streets harassing women going about their business? So, the believing women were asked to dress in a way that they be recognised to avoid being subject of hooliganism. There is another verse that says those in the streets who bother and harass women must be rounded up and punished.
Now, how do we apply this verse in this day and age. In societies were women are harassed on the streets for going about their business, women have an option of dressing up in a certain way to indicate they do not appreciate such attention.
In the West, where most women do not face such nuisance on the streets, perhaps dressing up in a modest manner should be good enough. We have, in contrast, women going around with full Niqab and one wonders if that is not a way to attract immediate unwanted attention, then what else is it?
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Mubashir55
This was my point. I live in a small village where the muslim community is very segregated. I do not wear hijab and my friends all know im muslim, although not in the traditional sense. I dont choose not tp wear hijab through shame or fear, because im a perfectly comfortable in my choice of faith, but rather it is because, like you said, dressing modestly brings the desired effect of men not bothering me.
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In addition to my last post...
In my time as a sunni muslim, i did wear hijab and i found i got alot more attention, from both genders. I didnt feel more respected, in fact it was to the contrary...i got mocked, pointed and on a couple of occassions verbally abused. But if Allah had decreed for me to wear it, i would. And indeed did despite the said negative affects.
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Salam
I write above why i wear the Hijab in EG- i will write now why when i will go France to visite my parents, i will not wear it
My parents don't like to meet me since 12 years due to their panic of Muslim clothes and their position in their small village. Until now, i didn't push them to see me , but now both are very ill.
I don't see any reason to wear the hijab in the above described situation- but i know that other muslims will see this as a divine test and decide to not go there- they will follow the order from their scholars and forget the order from God- and this in my eyes is the most sad... -[
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hahaha. Thats brilliant! And i see your point. In fairness to me, i did google it after i posted the question so the question was in fact stupid but i admittedly didnt really think about it when i asked. Its one of those occassions i guess most people ask when they hear something they didnt know and just ask "is it?"
consider your point made
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hahaha. Thats brilliant! And i see your point. In fairness to me, i did google it after i posted the question so the question was in fact stupid but i admittedly didnt really think about it when i asked. Its one of those occassions i guess most people ask when they hear something they didnt know and just ask "is it?"
consider your point made
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I just want to reply to your first question. I think that if we did in fact live in a Utopia where ALL the men in the world followed the Quran's guidance, we would still have to wear Hijab, had Allah commanded so in the Quran (opinion). Why? Because it was a command. Plain and simple. And out of love for Allah.
I do not think perfect men take away the divinity of Hijab.
For your second question...
When I wore Hijab before, I did it mostly because it was fashionable, and I needed something to hide behind due to self consciousness, it gave me confidence and it was my "blanky". Among other reasons as well.it's been a few months since I no longer wear it, but the days when I'm feeling down or having a bad hair day..etc, I truly miss my headscarf because it was something that made me feel secure, and not from men, but safe from my all insecurities and possible scrutinies of people in general.
This coming from a girl living in Egypt.
In terms of protection from men, I do not see any difference, with or without hijab, and in fact I get less looks and catcalls without it. To me personally, I think I look 10 times prettier in hijab. wearing pretty headscarves sort of make you special in a way. Without, it's just sort of plain jane unless you realllly work hard to grab attention, and im not that kinda gal.
However growing up in hijab, I never realized how it would affect my sense of femininity and identity, until I got married. I know this sounds crazy but after being married, I struggled very much wearing Hijab and for some reason could not feel like a 'woman' with it on. It also became my identity, maddie the 'hijabi'. I felt like a hypocrite as well, due to the fact that I didn't even adhere to the full requirements of Hijab.
I felt like I didn't know how to be a twenty something year old woman/wife with it on. On a superficial note, I lacked the upbringing of how to take care of myself cosmetically and it was easy when I was a teenager and not living with a man I cared about impressing. Suddenly I didn't know how to look good for hubby and manage to look decent outside. It was two separate routines (makeup inside house, do my hair..etc then mess all that up/remove it when going out). I know it seems silly but I just didn't have the education on what to do with this trivial things.
The other reason being I was and am severely vitamin D deficient and was starting to get angry at my hijab for covering me from the sun, and limiting my comfort/movement for exercising outside.
oops I think i went off topic D
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Hijab, amazing how a square peace of material can gain so much attention. When I followed the Sunnah I wore a hijab before it was popular. However after studying the Quran I now know wearing Hijab is not a directive from Allah but rather man. I took off my Hijab and was accused of all kinds of evils from the Muslim community. It was a test for me. Do I listen to man or do I follow Allah's rules? Of course the answer is simple - follow Allah.
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Hijab, amazing how a square peace of material can gain so much attention. When I followed the Sunnah I wore a hijab before it was popular. However after studying the Quran I now know wearing Hijab is not a directive from Allah but rather man. I took off my Hijab and was accused of all kinds of evils from the Muslim community. It was a test for me. Do I listen to man or do I follow Allah's rules? Of course the answer is simple - follow Allah.
I hear ya!
im still dealing with the disappointment but reluctant tolerance of my best friend about taking it off. thankfully the community hasn't ostracized me yet, but i found out most people around me don't recognize me and i moved some place new anyway.
However I am curious as to why exactly you are 100% sure Allah did not command us to cover our hair in the Quran? personally I think so, but I'm not really sure. So I just say "I don't know". Because it can be subjectively interpreted both ways. Do you mind PMing me about your take ?
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I think people are confused about this becouse the head cover has taken the name hijab amongst people and hijab in the Quran varies from negative to positive and is not closely related to clothing.
I am not for or against head cover but I have one question which is in benefit of wearing headscarf. That is what will you show to your father of your own beauty and when you go out you will cover it? Hair fits perfectly here...since most people like to be modest in front of their father/uncle/brother too...
Also word humurihinne is used in the Quran also as something that covers your mind does this imply that it something standing on your head ? Most people ignore these things saying humurihinne can mean carpet....but in the Quran it is not used in that meaning but in the close relation to the mind(head)...
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What word literally means her "entire body from head to toe".
Where is your proof that Burqa is proved in the Quran?
O Prophet! Say to your wives, and your daughters, and the women of the believers to draw their outer garments over themselves
The key phrase is "over themselves".
If I say, "Get yourself to the office at 6 o'clock", I mean get your whole body, not your head or your chest or your stomach....your whole body.
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The Holy Quran says a believing woman should cover over herself. Literally that means her entire body from head to toe. (see Surah 3360)
So those who say burqa has no proof from Quran are dead wrong.
Are you Sunni Muslim? What you're saying sounds more like the Taliban to me but then again you could be from a particular school of thought. I have also noticed a steady 'stream' of those following hadith and/or whatever else coming to this forum in recent weeks. An observation I thought I'd share.
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Are you Sunni Muslim? What you're saying sounds more like the Taliban to me but then again you could be from a particular school of thought. I have also noticed a steady 'stream' of those following hadith and/or whatever else coming to this forum in recent weeks. An observation I thought I'd share.
I am a Muslim who follows Hadith. But the point is I have quoted the Holy Quran which is commanding women to cover their whole body.
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Salaam,
If the men would actually follow the guidance of the Quran, would you still feel like you needed to be protected?
If men would follow the guidance of the Qur'aan, well there will be world peace, there will be no hunger, there will be no poverty, and the list goes on.
The cold truth is, Brother, mankind is born weak. There will always be temptation. To be perfectly honest, I do not wear a headscarf because I live in a Western country where it is not reaallllyyyy that hard to achieve modesty. My "hijab" will be modest dressing and lowering my gaze if I catch (once in a blue moon) a man checking me out. I will try to cover, in such a way I can look beautiful without being sexually attractive, if you know what I mean. I will avoid mini skirt and low-cut top because it will increase the risk of harrassment. If I go to the more conservative country, then I will cover more and wear a headscarf if that is what is considered modest in that society.
Every gender has their own responsibility. While a man is responsible to control his desire, a woman is also responsible to maintain a modest attire. It goes both ways, and I really disagree when people, "women should be able to look around naked bla bla bla".
If you live in a muslim country, then why do feel like you need to be identified as a muslim? Shouldnt the hijab only be worn in places where there is a necessity to show you are a muslim?
Well I live in a non-Muslim country so I do feel the yearning to be identified as a Muslim. Though I don't do it through wearing a headscarf, but through my action (hopefully). That being said, when I was travelling in Middle East, had I not worn the scarf, the locals would think I was a non-Muslim tourist because of my facial feature. So it was kinda nice to have them greet me with assalaamu'alaikum when they saw me with a headscarf .
A headscarf is just a piece of clothing, I don't know why people make a good deal out of it. For heaven's sake, wearing it is not a mockery or being oppressed. Geez, some people really love mocking something that is different to them/what they practice.
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I am a Muslim who follows Hadith. But the point is I have quoted the Holy Quran which is commanding women to cover their whole body.
Did you by any chance read the Qur'aan translated by Hilali and Khan where they inserted so many brackets of interpretation?
3359 does not say you need to cover from head to toe.
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The Holy Quran says a believing woman should cover over herself. Literally that means her entire body from head to toe. (see Surah 3360)
So those who say burqa has no proof from Quran are dead wrong.
Sura 3360?
3360 (Picktall) If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. -