After death ?!
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Salam drfazl
please, you can give me the Quranic evidence for your conclusions?Salam mirjamnur,
The whole write up was based on the ayats of Quran and wherever is needed I have I given the references. Could you be specific in your question, I will try my worth.
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Salam drfazl
Salam mirjamnur,
The whole write up was based on the ayats of Quran and wherever is needed I have I given the references. Could you be specific in your question, I will try my worth.
hose who died while they were living as witnesses, or, as living examples to the ayats of Allah are not to be called as dead but are raised as living souls; and true to His word, Allah feeds them and dignifies them in His nearness-
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- And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive and are provided sustenance from their God. They rejoice on account of favor from Allah and His grace, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers
i think the word in Arabic is killed not died. i don't know if this term includes the "living examples to the ayats of Allah'?
what means the term killed in the way of Allah?They are raised to the seven heavens above the lowest sky which we all see as violet in colour in the deep of the night. And the foremost shall be living in the skies of the other six coloured firmaments such as the indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange and the red skies above the first. Allah created the seven skies and the like thereof on the earth that which we see as rainbow
i know there exist many interpretations about 'the seven skies' - your explanation is only one from those interpretations - from where you get that the foremost shall be living in the skies of the other six colored firmaments??
- Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is Able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge.
here other translations
6512 God who created seven heavens and the same number of earths. His command descends between them, that you may know that God is capable of all things, and that God has encompassed all things with His knowledge.3
The Monotheist Group
6512 God who created seven heavens and the same number of Earths. His command descends between them, that you may know that God is capable of all things, and that God has encompassed all things with His knowledge.
Muhammad Asad
6512 GOD is He who has created seven heavens,18 and, like them, of the earth. Through all of them flows down from on high, unceasingly, His will,19 so that you might come to know that God has the power to will anything, and that God encompasses all things with His knowledge.
Rashad Khalifa Seven Universes And Seven Earths
6512 GOD created seven universes and the same number of earths. The commands flow among them. This is to let you know that GOD is Omnipotent, and that GOD is fully aware of all things.3
Shabbir Ahmed
6512 God is He who has created seven cosmic systems, and like them, of the lows. Through all of them descends His command that you may know that God has power over all things. And that God encompasses all things in His knowledge.[/colorThe foremost people are raised to the seven skies above to join the righteous bondsmen of Allah; and then later on they would enter the Paradise.
the number seven is probably an allegorical expression for 'many' or 'much'- this just another interpretation for 'seven skies'..
the Quran speaks from seven skies but God never give us details.
peace.Salam Stop
Thank you. Is there a difference in later judgment? Why do you think it is called "right" and not "justice"?
I don't understand what would be the difference for believers that would put them into the "foremost" group - or are there criteria I am not aware of?check the 'foremost' in the Quran
Edip-Layth - Quran A Reformist Translation
Chapter 56 - 5610;
Chapter 66 - 665;
The Monotheist Group - The Quran A Pure and Literal Translation
Chapter 56 - 5610;
Muhammad Asad - The Message Of Quran
Chapter 2 - 241;
Chapter 6 - 614; 692; 6163;
Chapter 9 - 9100;
Chapter 25 - 2574;
Chapter 26 - 2651;
Chapter 39 - 3912;
Chapter 42 - 427;
Chapter 56 - 5610;
Rashad Khalifa - The Final Testament
Chapter 43 - 4381;
Shabbir Ahmed -
Chapter 6 - 614; 6163;
Chapter 7 - 7143;
Chapter 9 - 9100;
Chapter 11 - 1127;
Chapter 25 - 2574;
Chapter 26 - 2651;
Chapter 35 - 3532;
Chapter 39 - 3912;
Chapter 42 - 427;
Chapter 43 - 4381;
Chapter 47 - 4720;
Chapter 56 - 5610;
Chapter 57 - 5721;
Chapter 87 - 8715;from what i understand, they are not 'only' believers- they strict with their body and soul to spread Gods word on earth- they aren't only speakers, no they are doers ) i think you will found topics here about this question - sorry, that i don;t search but i like to sleep )
peaceMy grandad just died recently and this question has been on my mind for a bit now.
Does our soul just sleep til the day of judgement yet we still have dreams and such? What IS the soul? I always imagine it as a special kind of energy. It makes sense when i think of a person who dies naturally whilst sleeping, but what about someone who is blown to pieces (god forbid..)? It's difficult imagining where the "nafs" is at that point.
Any thoughts and feelings?
peace
Salam sushi
i personally don't think that we are dreaming after the death until the day of judgement - for me it seems that the Quran tell us that he will resurrect us on this day and AFTER we will see /dream our new life, but i don't study this deeply.
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My grandad just died recently and this question has been on my mind for a bit now.
Does our soul just sleep til the day of judgement yet we still have dreams and such? What IS the soul? I always imagine it as a special kind of energy. It makes sense when i think of a person who dies naturally whilst sleeping, but what about someone who is blown to pieces (god forbid..)? It's difficult imagining where the "nafs" is at that point.
Any thoughts and feelings?
peace
Peace,
The nafs or mind is an entity to receive the glad tidings and the admonitions through His Ruh, as He sends down His Soulful command upon the hearts of people as wahi which if one abides by following what is intuited to him as lawful and rejecting what is intuited as unlawful and forbidden this criterion shall be the guidance and one's need of tomorrow until his life ends here so that he shall gain belief in Him, and shall live with the help of the mightiest power in this world, and shall attain the greatest life in the hereafter. The most perfect example of the descent of wahi upon our Ruh is, the rare individuals coming around from the terminal stages of their so called 'diagnostic-diseases', and out of their 'intensive care-death beds' much to the dismay and disbelief of the arrogant doctors and specialists who with all their diagnoses and assuredness destined them to death, even going to the extent of predicting their time of death. Such believers who were made to stand steadfast by the word of their God, when they totally got rid of the disease, swishing away the doctors, they, to their disappointment, displeasure and disbelief would say It is a medical miracle! Despite our medicines he survived! Some other saner ones would say It is his will power to survive, he got over the terrible disease! Yet, the believers standing as a grand witness to this, shall say "Woe unto us; it is Allah alone who cures of all our hardships; what happened to us that we believed doctors would save our lives while we know only Allah knows what life is? Surely, the life is abstract power while the medicines are manifest destruction of the life force! Doctors are mute-mutaters; maimers and truncaters! And we shall not associate these people anymore to the only God, for our hale and hearty life."
As believers we would now see the incidents as His Will Be Done; If His Will Is Our Wish. Every human's life is as simple as this.
A patient's Will to get over the disease it is the Wish and Command of his God. Or, his 'Wish-to-survive' is the Will of his Mighty God who says from His Soul, to His Ruh He has placed in every human as the 'heart' of his life; and this is one's "real heart". Those who know what 'Ruh' is, Allah is communicating to him direct, through wahi, the Intuitive Inspiration. This is the only way, the wahi, shall Allah Reveal His guidance, His prophecy through glad tidings and admonition
Allah communicates to us through three ways All through one's life, He keeps sending down His Wahi-Inspiration to His Ruh in his heart this is the direct revelation by which we distinguish between the right and the wrong. Unless we believe only in Allah, and unless our receiver i.e. our Ruh is pure from all sorts of shirks or association to God, our hearts are deaf to receive the wahi or the prophesy.
Under such circumstance, when we are deaf and dumb because of our varying degrees of association to God, then He communicates with us His Guidance from behind a veil i.e. through the Malayika who too are veiled to our naked eyes but speaks through our mind,- of God's Soul, His Will for us; since the malayika are veiled we cannot see unless they come in the perfect form of a human-being; the chosen messengers from among the malayika, Jibril and Mikhail in our Ruh, are now the mediators between our God and us; this intermediary role to convey the wahi by the angel-messengers has become mandatory to strengthen the word of God in us and to guide us in the straight path, and to make us believe in the Guidance of Allah, before our time runs out and before we lose sight of our angel-messengers too and all our hopes of living a respectful and dignified life on this earth. At this, we almost get ourselves blindfolded and enter into false beliefs and thus leave astray.
We are on our final journey in our life with this state of acquired and cultivated deafness and blindness when our mind situation is this worse and our belief in the only God and God alone, had dwindled to such a low and, is on the verge of being totally lost from His Way, the messengers are chosen from among the men of our own people, in our own tongue to communicate the wahi of Allah and to make us understand the presence of the same wahi in our minds that which we have been ignoring and rejecting all along. The prophets and the messengers give us guidance, thought, reminders, wisdom to see and hear the words of Allah happening all around us all of such shall finally culminate in our Ruh for reflection to get back our hearing and seeing, and guide us to hear, see and get at the wahi of Allah, directly before the appointed angels for each of us take our Ruh back to Allah and thus causing the end.
sushi1992,
Any clarification you need, please forward your query.Peace.
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Salam drfazlhose who died while they were living as witnesses, or, as living examples to the ayats of Allah are not to be called as dead but are raised as living souls; and true to His word, Allah feeds them and dignifies them in His nearness-
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- And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive and are provided sustenance from their God. They rejoice on account of favor from Allah and His grace, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers
i think the word in Arabic is killed not died. i don't know if this term includes the "living examples to the ayats of Allah'?
what means the term killed in the way of Allah?salam mirjamnur,
It is pertinent here to have an introduction about my stand on Quran so that there need not be any interjections. There is a vast difference between understanding by way of sense; and, understanding by way of material human source, the language which only caters to the mind of the current state of affairs of human beings. I only observe and follow the most sensible understanding of Quran and never do I entertain the human dictionaries and their obsolete languages when it is juxtaposed to the sense of Quran. Some 50 years ago, there were only one or two meanings for each word in dictionary; but now hundreds of meanings as thesauruses to each word we speak and they were divulging further and further. There will not be a meaningful end to any discussion if follow the human dictionaries to the words of Allah. If you begin to unravel the words of Allah, the seas of ink and seven more such seas will be blotted out to its last drop, yet, the definitions will not be over. So we lean on to our Ruh, and listen to the sense with our stare not moving away from it.
You say
i think the word in Arabic is killed not died. i don't know if this term includes the "living examples to the ayats of Allah'?
what means the term killed in the way of Allah?Allah says there is no discrepancy whatsoever between the ayats of Quran; and also, there is no contradiction between one ayat and the other ayats of Quran. Now I am giving another ayat, and you give me an explanation without contradicting or showing any discrepancy in sense, to the ayats mentioned below. You can put any word kill or die wherever you want, but bring sense without contradicting the two ayats below.
3157 And if you are killed in the cause of Allah or die - then forgiveness from Allah and mercy are better than whatever they accumulate in this world.
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- And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive and are provided sustenance from their God. They rejoice on account of favor from Allah and His grace, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers
Once we understand this, thereafter it will be easier to sense the rest of our discussion to the following
They are raised to the seven heavens above the lowest sky which we all see as violet in colour in the deep of the night. And the foremost shall be living in the skies of the other six coloured firmaments such as the indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange and the red skies above the first. Allah created the seven skies and the like thereof on the earth that which we see as rainbow
i know there exist many interpretations about 'the seven skies' - your explanation is only one from those interpretations - from where you get that the foremost shall be living in the skies of the other six colored firmaments??
- Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is Able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge.
here other translations
6512 God who created seven heavens and the same number of earths. His command descends between them, that you may know that God is capable of all things, and that God has encompassed all things with His knowledge.3
The Monotheist Group
6512 God who created seven heavens and the same number of Earths. His command descends between them, that you may know that God is capable of all things, and that God has encompassed all things with His knowledge.
Muhammad Asad
6512 GOD is He who has created seven heavens,18 and, like them, of the earth. Through all of them flows down from on high, unceasingly, His will,19 so that you might come to know that God has the power to will anything, and that God encompasses all things with His knowledge.
Rashad Khalifa Seven Universes And Seven Earths
6512 GOD created seven universes and the same number of earths. The commands flow among them. This is to let you know that GOD is Omnipotent, and that GOD is fully aware of all things.3
Shabbir Ahmed
6512 God is He who has created seven cosmic systems, and like them, of the lows. Through all of them descends His command that you may know that God has power over all things. And that God encompasses all things in His knowledge.[/colorThe foremost people are raised to the seven skies above to join the righteous bondsmen of Allah; and then later on they would enter the Paradise.
the number seven is probably an allegorical expression for 'many' or 'much'- this just another interpretation for 'seven skies'..
the Quran speaks from seven skies but God never give us details.
peace.Salam Stopcheck the 'foremost' in the Quran
Edip-Layth - Quran A Reformist Translation
Chapter 56 - 5610;
Chapter 66 - 665;
The Monotheist Group - The Quran A Pure and Literal Translation
Chapter 56 - 5610;
Muhammad Asad - The Message Of Quran
Chapter 2 - 241;
Chapter 6 - 614; 692; 6163;
Chapter 9 - 9100;
Chapter 25 - 2574;
Chapter 26 - 2651;
Chapter 39 - 3912;
Chapter 42 - 427;
Chapter 56 - 5610;
Rashad Khalifa - The Final Testament
Chapter 43 - 4381;
Shabbir Ahmed -
Chapter 6 - 614; 6163;
Chapter 7 - 7143;
Chapter 9 - 9100;
Chapter 11 - 1127;
Chapter 25 - 2574;
Chapter 26 - 2651;
Chapter 35 - 3532;
Chapter 39 - 3912;
Chapter 42 - 427;
Chapter 43 - 4381;
Chapter 47 - 4720;
Chapter 56 - 5610;
Chapter 57 - 5721;
Chapter 87 - 8715;from what i understand, they are not 'only' believers- they strict with their body and soul to spread Gods word on earth- they aren't only speakers, no they are doers i think you will found topics here about this question - sorry, that i don;t search but i like to sleep
peace
Salam sushii personally don't think that we are dreaming after the death until the day of judgement - for me it seems that the Quran tell us that he will resurrect us on this day and AFTER we will see /dream our new life, but i don't study this deeply.
peaceYou have given references of various humans' preferred outlooks; you can allow my translation as the last. It is for you to choose the best of them all. But by listing them all and keeping all in your mind, you have not applied the ayat 3918 in your crucial time, this.
39.18 Those who hear to the translations, and follow that which makes the best sense those are the ones whom Allah has guided, and those are the ones endued with understanding.
Peace.
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Allah communicates to us through three ways All through one's life, He keeps sending down His Wahi-Inspiration to His Ruh in his heart this is the direct revelation by which we distinguish between the right and the wrong. Unless we believe only in Allah, and unless our receiver i.e. our Ruh is pure from all sorts of shirks or association to God, our hearts are deaf to receive the wahi or the prophesy.
Under such circumstance, when we are deaf and dumb because of our varying degrees of association to God, then He communicates with us His Guidance from behind a veil i.e. through the Malayika who too are veiled to our naked eyes but speaks through our mind,- of God's Soul, His Will for us; since the malayika are veiled we cannot see unless they come in the perfect form of a human-being; the chosen messengers from among the malayika, Jibril and Mikhail in our Ruh, are now the mediators between our God and us; this intermediary role to convey the wahi by the angel-messengers has become mandatory to strengthen the word of God in us and to guide us in the straight path, and to make us believe in the Guidance of Allah, before our time runs out and before we lose sight of our angel-messengers too and all our hopes of living a respectful and dignified life on this earth. At this, we almost get ourselves blindfolded and enter into false beliefs and thus leave astray.
We are on our final journey in our life with this state of acquired and cultivated deafness and blindness when our mind situation is this worse and our belief in the only God and God alone, had dwindled to such a low and, is on the verge of being totally lost from His Way, the messengers are chosen from among the men of our own people, in our own tongue to communicate the wahi of Allah and to make us understand the presence of the same wahi in our minds that which we have been ignoring and rejecting all along. The prophets and the messengers give us guidance, thought, reminders, wisdom to see and hear the words of Allah happening all around us all of such shall finally culminate in our Ruh for reflection to get back our hearing and seeing, and guide us to hear, see and get at the wahi of Allah, directly before the appointed angels for each of us take our Ruh back to Allah and thus causing the end.
sushi1992,
Any clarification you need, please forward your query.Peace.
Peace drfazl,
Very interesting post! I can relate to it very much through my own experiences and observations. These modes of communication you speak about, it is amazing that we never hear about them from religions (at least I haven't). To me, in my own experience of religious people, it seems most of them are totally oblivious to communication with God, despite the fact that this is what religions SHOULD speak about most. Instead it seems that the religious people are just concerned with which team (which religion in the world) is winning, as if it is some sports competition where you judge your competitors as false or satanic. Religion is totally absorbed in i) philosophy, ii) exercises in interal conformance, and iii) judging others.I wonder how one can develop one's openness and softness in order to reduce one's restistance and rejection of the connection. We have to chip away at our resistance in order to open up channels of communication. This should be our sole priority in life since without this we are lost. To me this is hard work...
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Salam drfazl
salam mirjamnur,
It is pertinent here to have an introduction about my stand on Quran so that there need not be any interjections. There is a vast difference between understanding by way of sense; and, understanding by way of material human source, the language which only caters to the mind of the current state of affairs of human beings. I only observe and follow the most sensible understanding of Quran and never do I entertain the human dictionaries and their obsolete languages when it is juxtaposed to the sense of Quran. Some 50 years ago, there were only one or two meanings for each word in dictionary; but now hundreds of meanings as thesauruses to each word we speak and they were divulging further and further. There will not be a meaningful end to any discussion if follow the human dictionaries to the words of Allah. If you begin to unravel the words of Allah, the seas of ink and seven more such seas will be blotted out to its last drop, yet, the definitions will not be over. So we lean on to our Ruh, and listen to the sense with our stare not moving away from it.
You say
i think the word in Arabic is killed not died. i don't know if this term includes the "living examples to the ayats of Allah'?
what means the term killed in the way of Allah?Allah says there is no discrepancy whatsoever between the ayats of Quran; and also, there is no contradiction between one ayat and the other ayats of Quran. Now I am giving another ayat, and you give me an explanation without contradicting or showing any discrepancy in sense, to the ayats mentioned below. You can put any word kill or die wherever you want, but bring sense without contradicting the two ayats below.
3157 And if you are killed in the cause of Allah or die - then forgiveness from Allah and mercy are better than whatever they accumulate in this world.
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- And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive and are provided sustenance from their God. They rejoice on account of favor from Allah and His grace, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers
Once we understand this, thereafter it will be easier to sense the rest of our discussion to the following
You have given references of various humans' preferred outlooks; you can allow my translation as the last. It is for you to choose the best of them all. But by listing them all and keeping all in your mind, you have not applied the ayat 3918 in your crucial time, this.
39.18 Those who hear to the translations, and follow that which makes the best sense those are the ones whom Allah has guided, and those are the ones endued with understanding.
Peace.
I think i understand what you mean. But when i read in 3.166 until 3.1seven3 (sorry the number seven is broken) then the context speaks clear from war for this i'm now not sure if the 'died in the way of Allah/ or killed in the way of Allah' means here concrete killed in the warfare.
I like your interpretation more- but i'm not sure about it- after your conclusions thus all believers in the way of Allah (the believers who do good deeds / aminu wa amilus salihati) would not really die but already dwell in paradise. But what will happen to those on the day of judgment?
God speaks from the fact that He would resurrected on that day ALL the people from their graves, or maybe i understand anything wrong or overlooked something?? In my mind was Sura al Qamar , verse seven - but when i read it now again it could be that Allah speaks here only from the unbelievers? But in the next Aya the unbelievers are mentioned as included in the previous. hmmThank you for clarification.
You have given references of various humans' preferred outlooks; you can allow my translation as the last. It is for you to choose the best of them all. But by listing them all and keeping all in your mind, you have not applied the ayat 3918 in your crucial time, this.
Yes i will do that and ponder over the best meaning- may Allah increase my knowledge so that i can understand His word.
Thank you
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Well if believers (those who follow God's way) after death enter directly paradise so what about the judgement day ? Where's the sense in that ? What about 6919-20 - it doesnt make any sense
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What if you are not muslim but you are a good man ?
If a person is a good man, but a non-believer, then his/her good deeds in this world will be of no avail in the Day of Judgement . The person MUST be a muslim (a submitter to Allah), and has to die as a muslim.
"AS FOR THOSE who are bent on denying the truth and on barring from the path of God - all their deeds will He let go to waste;" (471)
"but as for those who are bent on denying the truth, ill fortune awaits them, since He will let all their deeds go to waste." (47
"Believers, fear God as is His due, and when death comes, be in a state of complete submission to Him." (3102)
So....there are about 1/2 billion muslims in the world...so the other 2-3 billion people in the world are automatically going to hell because they are not Islamic muslims? That doesn't make sense to me especially when the Q speaks about believers of the books being judged accordingly. or maybe I misread those verses.
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A good man is always adjudged a Muslim by Allah, be he a Hindu, a Christian, A Jew, a Buddhist, or a Sikh for, all good works from anyone comes only from Allah; unless Allah grants wisdom and patience he cannot be a good man. And all bad ensues from you, the bad man, or self proclaiming Muslim.
Whereas a good man is always a Muslim, a Muslim cannot always be a good man.
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Peace,
The nafs or mind is an entity to receive the glad tidings and the admonitions through His Ruh, as He sends down His Soulful command upon the hearts of people as wahi which if one abides by following what is intuited to him as lawful and rejecting what is intuited as unlawful and forbidden this criterion shall be the guidance and one's need of tomorrow until his life ends here so that he shall gain belief in Him, and shall live with the help of the mightiest power in this world, and shall attain the greatest life in the hereafter. The most perfect example of the descent of wahi upon our Ruh is, the rare individuals coming around from the terminal stages of their so called 'diagnostic-diseases', and out of their 'intensive care-death beds' much to the dismay and disbelief of the arrogant doctors and specialists who with all their diagnoses and assuredness destined them to death, even going to the extent of predicting their time of death. Such believers who were made to stand steadfast by the word of their God, when they totally got rid of the disease, swishing away the doctors, they, to their disappointment, displeasure and disbelief would say It is a medical miracle! Despite our medicines he survived! Some other saner ones would say It is his will power to survive, he got over the terrible disease! Yet, the believers standing as a grand witness to this, shall say "Woe unto us; it is Allah alone who cures of all our hardships; what happened to us that we believed doctors would save our lives while we know only Allah knows what life is? Surely, the life is abstract power while the medicines are manifest destruction of the life force! Doctors are mute-mutaters; maimers and truncaters! And we shall not associate these people anymore to the only God, for our hale and hearty life."
As believers we would now see the incidents as His Will Be Done; If His Will Is Our Wish. Every human's life is as simple as this.
A patient's Will to get over the disease it is the Wish and Command of his God. Or, his 'Wish-to-survive' is the Will of his Mighty God who says from His Soul, to His Ruh He has placed in every human as the 'heart' of his life; and this is one's "real heart". Those who know what 'Ruh' is, Allah is communicating to him direct, through wahi, the Intuitive Inspiration. This is the only way, the wahi, shall Allah Reveal His guidance, His prophecy through glad tidings and admonition
Allah communicates to us through three ways All through one's life, He keeps sending down His Wahi-Inspiration to His Ruh in his heart this is the direct revelation by which we distinguish between the right and the wrong. Unless we believe only in Allah, and unless our receiver i.e. our Ruh is pure from all sorts of shirks or association to God, our hearts are deaf to receive the wahi or the prophesy.
Under such circumstance, when we are deaf and dumb because of our varying degrees of association to God, then He communicates with us His Guidance from behind a veil i.e. through the Malayika who too are veiled to our naked eyes but speaks through our mind,- of God's Soul, His Will for us; since the malayika are veiled we cannot see unless they come in the perfect form of a human-being; the chosen messengers from among the malayika, Jibril and Mikhail in our Ruh, are now the mediators between our God and us; this intermediary role to convey the wahi by the angel-messengers has become mandatory to strengthen the word of God in us and to guide us in the straight path, and to make us believe in the Guidance of Allah, before our time runs out and before we lose sight of our angel-messengers too and all our hopes of living a respectful and dignified life on this earth. At this, we almost get ourselves blindfolded and enter into false beliefs and thus leave astray.
We are on our final journey in our life with this state of acquired and cultivated deafness and blindness when our mind situation is this worse and our belief in the only God and God alone, had dwindled to such a low and, is on the verge of being totally lost from His Way, the messengers are chosen from among the men of our own people, in our own tongue to communicate the wahi of Allah and to make us understand the presence of the same wahi in our minds that which we have been ignoring and rejecting all along. The prophets and the messengers give us guidance, thought, reminders, wisdom to see and hear the words of Allah happening all around us all of such shall finally culminate in our Ruh for reflection to get back our hearing and seeing, and guide us to hear, see and get at the wahi of Allah, directly before the appointed angels for each of us take our Ruh back to Allah and thus causing the end.
sushi1992,
Any clarification you need, please forward your query.Peace.
Selam drfazl,
Sorry I took a while i reply. I had to re-read what you had written and i hadn't had a chance to go onto my laptop to reply. Thank you for your effort and explanation. I'm glad you have made the meanings of nafs and ruh clearer to me. By ruh we mean spirit yes? Sorry my arabic isn't great...
One question i didn't see you answer or voice your opinion on is this one
Do we dream whilst we sleep and are unconscious til judgement day? I remember hearing that Far'awn (or as some may translate is as Pharaoh) apparently had 2 nightmares per day til the day comes... but i can't remember where i heard this from... What kind of state are we in when we die? Some form of a deep sleep? But dreams don't occur in a deep sleep.. or do they...
Peace and thanks for your comprehensive answer ).
peace
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Ok now I see...things are getting complicated so I will make a simply question. What will happen on Judgement Day or Will everyone be judged on Judgment Day or Who will be judged on Judgment Day?
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Salaam,
I does not really matter if you have to wait until the Judgment day to enter Paradise or not, you will not be aware until this day and if you do not, then you are already there.
I think Judgment Day loses its meaning if there is not sides on it. Also as far as I can read, in the Quran, people will be admitted into Heaven or Hell, on the Judgment Day, when they receive their record. The Quran seems to be pretty clear on this topic, unless I misunderstand it.
But like I stated in my first paragraph, it does not really matter to a devout Believer, this warning is mainly intended as a warning for those who do not believe. Of course, the description of Paradise feels soothing to any reverent person and is a comfort through our lives, and will only make us work harder to redeem ourselves.
Those of us who are influenced by sayings of Dr. Rashad Khalifa may believe that we enter Paradise right after death, but this seems to be an unfounded idea contradicting the Quran. Of course it is up to God to decide nevertheless, we just have to work hard to be righteous. I will not start to argue for or against Dr. Khalifa, I leave him to the judgment of the Lord, but some say he was a messenger that was removed from duty due to disobedience.
God bless you with certainty and prosperity
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Well if believers (those who follow God's way) after death enter directly paradise so what about the judgement day ? Where's the sense in that ? What about 6919-20 - it doesnt make any sense
This verses is talking about the people who are still living in the earth on the day of judgement.
Everyone who dies as a believer will go strictly to paradise as I have understood it.
And the one who goes to hell will wait until judgement day and they will all be banished into hell toghether."(At the time of his death) he was told, "Enter Paradise." He said, "Oh, I wish my people knew. That my Lord has forgiven me, and made me honourable" 3626-27
Salaam brother )
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Salaam
I am not your Rabb (educator). I am pupil of God like you and i will try to respond according to my own understandingCan somebody explain to me what will happen to us after death according to Qur'an ?
Good pupils go to garden of imaginary (Jenna of Jinns). Rejectors and idolaters spirit will be separated (adhab) from the great teacher and destroyed in jehennem.
it is God who will decide how much that separation/destruction will be painfull and how long it will last.If you are a true believer will you go directly into paradise or will you wait till Day of Judgment ?
wrong question. idolaters are true believers and they will not go to jenna.
Believer is bad traduction for word Mo'omin. Jenna is for good pupils who take care of the AMANA (trust) given to them by God. Amana is words of God.concerning wainting or not, i don't know and it is not important for me.
What if you are a true believer(you believe in God, Quran, Day of Jugment, prophets) but you don't do zaqat, salat, fasting during ramadan etc?
Good point if you dont do the stupid rituals.
salat is connecting to god through his words in order to get mind purification (zakat).
Saoum is spiritual retreat consacrated to words of God.Sadaqa (charity) is considered as loan to god. If you trust in God, you should give the loan he asked for.
What if you are not muslim but you are a good man ?
you spirit of bad pupil will be separated from the teacher you rejected. Perhaps separation will be not painfull.
if you are good man but idolater (mushrik), God will not forgive you.
Good and bad is not the good criterion. Quran never said good people will go to jenna.Muslim means receive. You can be muslim, good man and go to hell if you mixed words of gods with words of other teachers.
what if you are not muslim and you are a bad man ?
painfull separation if you rejected words of God.
Please notice that a christian or Jew or zoroaster that have never read quran can be considered as Muslim by God.Is it true that angles "beat" spirit of unbelievers and what does it mean ? does it mean that they do it till the day of jugment ? what about "the life after death will be similar to dreaming" and what does it stands for ? for believers, for unbelievers ?
what about "life in the grave" ?
Can dead people hear us ?cannot respond.
life after death can be similar to dreaming in a sense that our spirit and our body are two differents things. Dont know what will happen to our body.Can somebody explain what is the "ticket to paradise", which are the major rules we must follow to get "ticket to paradise" and which are the major rules "we must follow" to destroy our chance of getting "ticket of paradise" ?
and the last oneYou have to read quran and ask god to purify (zakat) your mind.
Reading free-minds.org can help you if you have already studied the quran. if not, it will astray you with 100% chance simply because you are taking other arbabs.
So response is study, study and study and never mix words or take other rabb(teacher) than God.Peace
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Selam drfazl,
Sorry I took a while i reply. I had to re-read what you had written and i hadn't had a chance to go onto my laptop to reply. Thank you for your effort and explanation. I'm glad you have made the meanings of nafs and ruh clearer to me. By ruh we mean spirit yes? Sorry my arabic isn't great...
One question i didn't see you answer or voice your opinion on is this one
Do we dream whilst we sleep and are unconscious til judgement day? I remember hearing that Far'awn (or as some may translate is as Pharaoh) apparently had 2 nightmares per day til the day comes... but i can't remember where i heard this from... What kind of state are we in when we die? Some form of a deep sleep? But dreams don't occur in a deep sleep.. or do they...
Peace and thanks for your comprehensive answer ).
peace
Sushi1992, Salam,
By ruh we mean spirit yes?
RUH is the word of Allah, such as His Promise, Gladtidings, Admonition, Guidance, Teachings, Explanation and such of all the ways of straight path towards a glorious unending life from this world to the hereafter, which we breathe; and this becomes the breather of an individual not only during his hardest times, but also without his knowledge he is breathing only tomorrow or the next of what he is living presently. Ruhul Quddus is the receiver of the Words, the RUH i.e., the receiver of the Trust of Allah who is the appointed Messenger Angel, Jibril; he becomes the Soul for each one of us who is always present in our heart of hearts. This Soul or the Messenger Jibril, Ruhul Quddus conveys the Will or the RUH of Allah to our mind as His promising path for our loveliest and the most beautiful future.
To summarise, Allah breathes His RUH to our Soul, the Jibril who conveys the Message of Allah, the RUH to our Mind. This is the 'Wahi' or the Unseeable Inspiration of the Hour next in store for each of us, individually according to each one's measure of the belief in the Unssen, which life would unfold and reveal itself from within you so that you become a blossoming flower yourself.
This is the point of reception of the Will of Allah which becomes our Wish or the dear most need. Thus our mind houses the Will or the Wahi of Allah as our Wishful belief of tomorrow. From this point our life starts moving based on what we have in the mind whether we stuff our minds with the desires of our liking of the manifest things and forms on the earth, or, the unseen wisdom of 'RUH-infused-Will' of Allah? These are the left-handed and the right-handed people based on the course they take up in the whole of their lives. We are idol worshipers when we desire in our minds all the glittering of the manifest things. And when we keep in our mind the Wish of the unseen Will of Allah, yet to be created and that which is duly measured for us, they are of the righteous category. The Final judgement of a human being is with Allah; and we are not to entertain ourselves on that anytime in our entire lives.
Regarding your grand dad, you sushi1992, have to erase his memory from your mind to better understand what follows this post...
Up to this you have to ascertain from the Truth of The Book to proceed further on your query. Kindly put your questions and doubts up to this...
Peace.
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Sushi1992, Salam,
By ruh we mean spirit yes?
RUH is the word of Allah, such as His Promise, Gladtidings, Admonition, Guidance, Teachings, Explanation and such of all the ways of straight path towards a glorious unending life from this world to the hereafter, which we breathe; and this becomes the breather of an individual not only during his hardest times, but also without his knowledge he is breathing only tomorrow or the next of what he is living presently. Ruhul Quddus is the receiver of the Words, the RUH i.e., the receiver of the Trust of Allah who is the appointed Messenger Angel, Jibril; he becomes the Soul for each one of us who is always present in our heart of hearts. This Soul or the Messenger Jibril, Ruhul Quddus conveys the Will or the RUH of Allah to our mind as His promising path for our loveliest and the most beautiful future.
To summarise, Allah breathes His RUH to our Soul, the Jibril who conveys the Message of Allah, the RUH to our Mind. This is the 'Wahi' or the Unseeable Inspiration of the Hour next in store for each of us, individually according to each one's measure of the belief in the Unssen, which life would unfold and reveal itself from within you so that you become a blossoming flower yourself.
This is the point of reception of the Will of Allah which becomes our Wish or the dear most need. Thus our mind houses the Will or the Wahi of Allah as our Wishful belief of tomorrow. From this point our life starts moving based on what we have in the mind whether we stuff our minds with the desires of our liking of the manifest things and forms on the earth, or, the unseen wisdom of 'RUH-infused-Will' of Allah? These are the left-handed and the right-handed people based on the course they take up in the whole of their lives. We are idol worshipers when we desire in our minds all the glittering of the manifest things. And when we keep in our mind the Wish of the unseen Will of Allah, yet to be created and that which is duly measured for us, they are of the righteous category. The Final judgement of a human being is with Allah; and we are not to entertain ourselves on that anytime in our entire lives.
Regarding your grand dad, you sushi1992, have to erase his memory from your mind to better understand what follows this post...
Up to this you have to ascertain from the Truth of The Book to proceed further on your query. Kindly put your questions and doubts up to this...
Peace.
dear dr,
- 'i / me ' means only 'my mind'.
- soul means 'jibreel', the soul of humanity is one.
- RUH - the word of Allah, our breath.
please tell me, have i understood rightly.
Peace.
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Selam DrFazl and sorry for the late response, i have been much busy...
All praises be to God I understand what you mean. The question of if we have dreams til judgment day however still fascinates me. What are your views on this. Is there any Quranic evidence? Or do we simply "sleep" til that hour has come.
Peace
Sushi
peaceSushi1992, Salam,
By ruh we mean spirit yes?
RUH is the word of Allah, such as His Promise, Gladtidings, Admonition, Guidance, Teachings, Explanation and such of all the ways of straight path towards a glorious unending life from this world to the hereafter, which we breathe; and this becomes the breather of an individual not only during his hardest times, but also without his knowledge he is breathing only tomorrow or the next of what he is living presently. Ruhul Quddus is the receiver of the Words, the RUH i.e., the receiver of the Trust of Allah who is the appointed Messenger Angel, Jibril; he becomes the Soul for each one of us who is always present in our heart of hearts. This Soul or the Messenger Jibril, Ruhul Quddus conveys the Will or the RUH of Allah to our mind as His promising path for our loveliest and the most beautiful future.
To summarise, Allah breathes His RUH to our Soul, the Jibril who conveys the Message of Allah, the RUH to our Mind. This is the 'Wahi' or the Unseeable Inspiration of the Hour next in store for each of us, individually according to each one's measure of the belief in the Unssen, which life would unfold and reveal itself from within you so that you become a blossoming flower yourself.
This is the point of reception of the Will of Allah which becomes our Wish or the dear most need. Thus our mind houses the Will or the Wahi of Allah as our Wishful belief of tomorrow. From this point our life starts moving based on what we have in the mind whether we stuff our minds with the desires of our liking of the manifest things and forms on the earth, or, the unseen wisdom of 'RUH-infused-Will' of Allah? These are the left-handed and the right-handed people based on the course they take up in the whole of their lives. We are idol worshipers when we desire in our minds all the glittering of the manifest things. And when we keep in our mind the Wish of the unseen Will of Allah, yet to be created and that which is duly measured for us, they are of the righteous category. The Final judgement of a human being is with Allah; and we are not to entertain ourselves on that anytime in our entire lives.
Regarding your grand dad, you sushi1992, have to erase his memory from your mind to better understand what follows this post...
Up to this you have to ascertain from the Truth of The Book to proceed further on your query. Kindly put your questions and doubts up to this...
Peace.