54:17,22,32,40 Easy to learn or Easy to remember
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What should be the correct translation of the verses 5417,22,32,40 . I have got two different trnaslations
The Monotheist Group 5417 And We made the Qur'an easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?
Muhammad Asad 5417 Hence, indeed, We made this Qur'an easy to bear in mind who, then, is willing to take it to heart?
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Abdullah
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Salamun alaikum,
Know the certain fact that We have simplified-rendered the Grand Qur'aan facilitative for reading and comprehending.
The purpose of its facilitative rendering is for general convenience in saving in memory, comprehension and recalling for narrating and taking lesson.
Thereat, is there one who consciously and purposely saves it in memory, comprehends and recalls to mention-takes lesson and admonition?
Qur'aan is a book, and a book is for reading its text which is a complex cognitive process of decoding symbols in order to construct or derive meaning in written text. Reading comprehension is defined as the level of understanding of a text. This understanding comes from the interaction between the words that are written. Proficient reading depends on the ability to recognize words quickly and effortlessly.
Proclamation of Allah the Exalted Qur'aan is rendered facilitative to learn and comprehend
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Salam Mazhar,
I have been reading and studying your posts for a very long time including what you share on your website http//haqeeqat.org.pk
I have some sincere feedback for you which I hope you will consider with broad shoulders.
I cannot comment on the proficiency of your Arabic, but what I do strongly believe is that for a translator to be credible and successful, they have to be proficient in not only the language they are translating from but also the language they are translating to. This is extremely important.
I have found the proficiency of your English extremely poor. Your English grammar appears to be very weak. You make use of the most inappropriate English words in certain contexts which make your sentences at times unintelligible. You seem to have little comprehension of the English words you make use of almost indicating at times that you are plucking words out of an English dictionary without understanding how the words are actually used when spoken.
At times your explanations in English are extremely labored and convoluted. Your grasp of the English language at times is left extremely wanting.
The problem for me is that if I have no confidence in your English, how can I have any confidence in your Arabic? How do I know really know that your grasp of Arabic syntax is not just as poor?
It has taken me a long time to voice my concerns about your work so openly on this forum, but I have done so because I think it is important to share.
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Thank you Mazhar for being so understanding. I really thought you were going to be mad at me. Respect! bravo
Please let me make it clear that I have no question about your sincerity and all the hard work you are doing for the sake of Allah. May Allah give you reward Insha'Allah.
There are many examples, but I'm not sure how I can explain them to you if for you, the way you understand English is the right way. Here I am hoping that others may help too if they feel the same as I do.
My feedback is not based on this one thread, but numerous posts and writings that you have made.
For example, some individuals on this forum tried to explain to you in the following thread the difficulty they had with your writing.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604561.msg311420#new
However, it seemed that you just couldn't accept that 'Galaxy of messengers' wasn't a phrase that English speaking people would use in that context.
We do not seclude a single one in the Galaxy of Messengers.
So what are we meant to do brother Mazhar? Some of us can only show you, but you have to be willing to accept it before you can change your style.
Now in this thread you said
The purpose of its facilitative rendering is for general convenience in saving in memory...
This writing style is awkward at best and difficult to comprehend for an English speaker. Cognitive references are not made in this way. Can you see?
If this is how you communicate generally, can you see the difficulty with how one can trust your English translations of the Quran where nuances are so key to getting the right message across?
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Salamun alaika,
Thanks for a very quick response.
For example, some individuals on this forum tried to explain to you in the following thread the difficulty they had with your writing.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604561.msg311420#new
However, it seemed that you just couldn't accept that 'Galaxy of messengers' wasn't a phrase that English speaking people would use in that context.
"Galaxy of messengers" is perhaps not used in literature and ordinary speech. However, it should not have caused much concern or trouble in perceiving what I intended to convey because we do find in English texts "galaxy of ambassadors...".
Please suggest an alternate word in English commensurate with the distinction and honour signified by Arabic word Nabiyeena .
Quote from Mazhar on Today at 012526 AM
The purpose of its facilitative rendering is for general convenience in saving in memory...This writing style is awkward at best and difficult to comprehend for an English speaker. Cognitive references are not made in this way. Can you see?
I do understand your point. Traditionally, it is translated as "to remember", "for rememberence". But I thought, rightly or wrongly, that it does not portray fully what is signified by the Verbal Noun Zikr. It signifies the complete process of saving something in memory which is possible only when one has correctly comprehended and perceived the idea. It yields a state that enables its effortless retrieval for expressing it to others.
I hope you can help me reconstructing the above sentences keeping in view the perception infolded in the Verbal Noun.
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Salamun alaika,
Thanks for a very quick response.
"Galaxy of messengers" is perhaps not used in literature and ordinary speech. However, it should not have caused much concern or trouble in perceiving what I intended to convey because we do find in English texts "galaxy of ambassadors...".
Please suggest an alternate word in English commensurate with the distinction and honour signified by Arabic word Nabiyeena .
I do understand your point. Traditionally, it is translated as "to remember", "for rememberence". But I thought, rightly or wrongly, that it does not portray fully what is signified by the Verbal Noun Zikr. It signifies the complete process of saving something in memory which is possible only when one has correctly comprehended and perceived the idea. It yields a state that enables its effortless retrieval for expressing it to others.
I hope you can help me reconstructing the above sentences keeping in view the perception infolded in the Verbal Noun.
i also have many problems to understand you, but this explanation was very helpful!
so the Quran is easy to by 'zikrified'- memorized AND comprehended
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Peace
I must add that in English people generally tend to be familiar only with the first, and/or primary use of a word. It is true that generally people would not get Mazhar writing "galaxy", but that does not necessarily make him wrong. In my experience, in my own language when I'm not clear on the uses of a word I always look to a dictionary. In the end "galaxy" can be used as Mazhar said. If you look in a dictionary under "galaxy" you will find the usual use of "galaxy" and also, "a large or impressive group of people or things a galaxy of boundless young talent."
Joe
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I must add that in English people generally tend to be familiar only with the first, and/or primary use of a word. It is true that generally people would not get Mazhar writing "galaxy", but that does not necessarily make him wrong. In my experience, in my own language when I'm not clear on the uses of a word I always look to a dictionary. In the end "galaxy" can be used as Mazhar said. If you look in a dictionary under "galaxy" you will find the usual use of "galaxy" and also, "a large or impressive group of people or things a galaxy of boundless young talent."
Joe
Salamun alaika,
Thanks. I had done exactly as you have pointed out. Arabic plural Nabiyeena has built in masculine plural pronoun refering to a gethering of men given that status reflected by adjective like participle. I could not find an appropriate equivalent word in English except galaxy. Thereafter, I googled to find if it were used in formal papers and found it was used about ambassadors and senior clergy of church. "Galaxy" alone will certainly give a perception of group of star but the phrase "galaxy of ambassadors", "galaxy of messengers" should instantly convey to even an ordinary reader the intent of the writer that he is calling the persons mentioned in the phrase to be like brilliant group of stars which shows reverence for and their higher stature. Thanks.