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An Interesting Traditional View on Al-Kitab

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    Idris
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    peace be upon all,

    http//www.quran.org.uk/ieb_quran_kitab.htm

    I disagree with him that kitab=religious law or that shariah is religious law as I'm sure many here do, I do think that kitab sometimes means the decree/prescription/ordinance/dictation/etc. though so I agree with him there, other times i think that kitab means the reading (quran), other times i think it is the book containing all things (638 ) such as our deeds that will be presented to us when we die, but regardless i'm pretty sure there is no one solid definition/meaning of kitab in the reading (quran)

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      Peace be upon you Idris,

      Nothing in that article convinced me that "kitaab" was any other than the God's Book/Writing, which is the Universe itself, which those who reach a certain level become AWARE of(recieve the book). When used as a human writing we can translate as literal book/writing.

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        peace be upon you idolfree,

        Peace be upon you Idris,

        Nothing in that article convinced me that "kitaab" was any other than the God's Book/Writing, which is the Universe itself, which those who reach a certain level become AWARE of(recieve the book). When used as a human writing we can translate as literal book/writing.

        what about those that wrote "al kitab" themselves 278? and what is your view on the people of "al kitab"? I do agree that "al kitab" is all things though based on 638, the problem is I'm not sure if its speaking about the same book throughout because it has been used in plurality i.e. 2285

        share your thoughts with me, I'm still searching for the correct interpretation

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          Peace be upon you Idris,

          what about those that wrote "al kitab" themselves 278?

          I found it at 279.
          So grief/distress/woe (expression) to those who write The Book with their hands then they say "That (it is) from at The God." To buy/volunteer with it a small price, so grief/distress/woe (expression) to them from what their hands wrote , and grief/distress/woe (expression) to them from what they gather/acquire .

          Al Kitaab is the unfolding book of life, some people think they understand this life and they try to write books explaining it without truly understanding it, like all of the books about literal jinn who have sex with you or angels who don't enter rooms with pictures, etc.

          When truth comes, even though the hand the writes it will still be a human hand, it will come directly from the God within.

          and what is your view on the people of "al kitab"?

          The people of the Book are people who have awakened to life, as oppossed to those who are like living dead, just being led around like sheep. They are people who are conscious of what is going on around them.

          I do agree that "al kitab" is all things though based on 638, the problem is I'm not sure if its speaking about the same book throughout because it has been used in plurality i.e. 2285

          My argument has been that the word "quran" does not describe just this one book we call "Quran", it describes any reading. We have to always be Holistic in our approach. We have to remember those before us who had a different book/writing which revealed the Truth. The God says you will know if a writing/book is from Him if it does not contain contradictions.

          So yes, there are many writings that are TRUTHFUL MESSAGES. If we consider that the so called Bible is areally a compilation of several writings/books, we might even be able to find a truthful writing within that work. Perhaps the Psalms, but I am not sure.

          There is a writing/book called "As a man thinketh" by James Allen, I see no contradiction in that work. There are writings on the walls of the pyramids in Egypt which speak the Truth. There are writings in all cultures, some of which are very TRUE. All truthful , non contradicting writings are from the God.

          share your thoughts with me, I'm still searching for the correct interpretation

          I hope my understanding could be of some help, let me know if you see a better solution in your study.

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            peace be upon you Kyle,

            do you have any links to sites about the Kemetans, their teachings, civilization, technology, etc.? I was aware that the Greeks had learned philosophy from Asian philosophers but I haven't heard much about the influences of ancient Egyptian philosophy, I was aware though of much of the white contempt for the superiority of the Egyptian kingdom through history, like part of this Nas verse says

            Be, be, 'fore we came to this country
            We were kings and queens, never porch monkeys
            It was empires in Africa called Kush
            Timbuktu, where every race came to get books
            To learn from black teachers who taught Greeks and Romans,
            Asian Arabs and gave them gold, when
            Gold was converted to money it all changed
            Money then became empowerment for Europeans
            The Persian military invaded
            They learned about the gold, the teachings and everything sacred
            Africa was almost robbed naked
            Slavery was money, so they began making slave ships
            Egypt was the place that Alexander the Great went
            He was so shocked at the mountains with black faces
            Shot up they nose to impose what basically
            Still goes on today, you see?

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              Peace be upon you Idris,

              do you have any links to sites about the Kemetans, their teachings, civilization, technology, etc.?

              http//www.africawithin.com/black_history/overview_chapter16.html

              http//www.sfbayview.com/090104/africanroots090104.shtml

              http//www.nbufront.org/html/MastersMuseums/JHClarke/ArticlesEssays/WhyAfricanaHistory.html

              http//www.nathanielturner.com/notoutofgreecereview.htm

              The above are a few sites that mention that Greeks learned from Kemet. But the best I can do is refer you to the following books

              "Not out of Greece" by Ra Un Nefer Amen

              "Nile Valley contributions to civilization" by Anthony T Browder

              Other authors are John Henrik Clarke, Chieck Anta Diop, Naim Akbar.

              Regarding the spiritual philosophy , I recommend "Metu Neter Vol 1 & 2" by Ra Un Nefer Amen

              I highly recommend all of the above books and authors. HIGHLY!

              Lastly, I recommend to everyone to read the metaphoric story of Ausar(Osirus), it is the oldest known metaphoric story and contains a great deal of wisdom and "familiar" themes.

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