Breaking an Oath
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I use to make oaths and not think of them as too burdensome if broken I think but i've been troubled for a while now ever since I read this verse 377
" The ones that purchase with God's pledge and their oaths a small price, those will have no portion in the Hereafter, and God will not speak to them nor look at them on the Day of Resurrection nor purify them, and they will have a painful retribution."
At first this appears to me as a very very heavy punishment for breaking an oath in that part of that verse but I saw some tafsirs that stated that it refers to if you make a false oath. For a while I was at peace thinking that and even had tried to rationalize the verse to fit that logic but it feels like i'm pulling at straws as it doesn't seem very evident of it referring to false oaths only but I may just not be reading it right, I don't know.
I don't even remember some of the oaths I had made in the past when I didn't think of them as too serious and thus I forgot them or broke them and so I fear that this may refer to simply breaking an oath. If I had known this verse I probably would avoid oaths for the most part all together.
What does everyone think? Does 377refer to making a false oaths or just simply breaking an oath? (
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Peace,
When I read this, it seems to me as those who don't take a serious oath seriously. By that I mean, one who gives others a false hope, so they believe and trust in that person but then the person just lets them down and that individual who made such an oath wouldn't really care about such consequences. I've found translations that say obligations and promises, does this change the meaning? Maybe part of this is that people should not become to careless in how they say things to God or other people. If you aren't sure if you can do something, tell God or them you'll do whatever you can etc but on that matter you won't make an oath unless you are certain you will meet it. I feel this is easy to avoid from what I understand of it. After all, isn't an oath supposed to signify that you would not break it unless there were circumstances too far out of your control?
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Peace,
When I read this, it seems to me as those who don't take a serious oath seriously. By that I mean, one who gives others a false hope, so they believe and trust in that person but then the person just lets them down and that individual who made such an oath wouldn't really care about such consequences. I've found translations that say obligations and promises, does this change the meaning? Maybe part of this is that people should not become to careless in how they say things to God or other people. If you aren't sure if you can do something, tell God or them you'll do whatever you can etc but on that matter you won't make an oath unless you are certain you will meet it. I feel this is easy to avoid from what I understand of it. After all, isn't an oath supposed to signify that you would not break it unless there were circumstances too far out of your control?
can I ask how you came to that conclusion? I assume it has something to do with the part that says "purchase" and "small price"?
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There are other verses on the same subject
612-3 O you who believe! why do you say that which you do not do? Most loathsome is it in the sight of God that you say what you do not do!
2177 True piety does not consist in turning your faces towards the east or the west - but truly pious is he who believes in God, and the Last Day; and the angels, and revelation, and the prophets; and spends his substance - however much he himself may cherish - it - upon his near of kin, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, and the beggars, and for the freeing of human beings from bondage; and is constant in prayer, and renders the purifying dues; and they who keep their promises whenever they promise, and are patient in misfortune and hardship and in time of peril it is they that have proved themselves true, and it is they, they who are conscious of God.
1734 And do not touch the substance of an orphan, save to improve it, before he comes of age. And be true to every promise - for, verily, you will be called to account for every promise which you have made!
It is my opinion that a person of substance is someone who means what he says. If you don't take your own words seriously, how can anyone else? For me personally, learning to live up to this standard has required me to promise less and do more. I don't see this as a bad development at all.
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There are other verses on the same subject
It is my opinion that a person of substance is someone who means what he says. If you don't take your own words seriously, how can anyone else? For me personally, learning to live up to this standard has required me to promise less and do more. I don't see this as a bad development at all.A promise is not an oath as I understand it. The word "ayman" is what refers to oaths and neither of those you posted are those, which this topic is about oaths only.
Anyways the issue is 377 that I want an answer to, please and thank you.
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I use to make oaths and not think of them as too burdensome if broken I think but i've been troubled for a while now ever since I read this verse 377
" The ones that purchase with God's pledge and their oaths a small price, those will have no portion in the Hereafter, and God will not speak to them nor look at them on the Day of Resurrection nor purify them, and they will have a painful retribution."
At first this appears to me as a very very heavy punishment for breaking an oath in that part of that verse but I saw some tafsirs that stated that it refers to if you make a false oath. For a while I was at peace thinking that and even had tried to rationalize the verse to fit that logic but it feels like i'm pulling at straws as it doesn't seem very evident of it referring to false oaths only but I may just not be reading it right, I don't know.
I don't even remember some of the oaths I had made in the past when I didn't think of them as too serious and thus I forgot them or broke them and so I fear that this may refer to simply breaking an oath. If I had known this verse I probably would avoid oaths for the most part all together.
What does everyone think? Does 377refer to making a false oaths or just simply breaking an oath? (
And among the People of the Scripture is he who, if you entrust him with a great amount , he will return it to you. And among them is he who, if you entrust him with a silver coin, he will not return it to you unless you are constantly standing over him . That is because they say, "There is no blame upon us concerning the unlearned." And they speak untruth about Allah while they know .
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But yes, whoever fulfills his commitment and fears Allah - then indeed, Allah loves those who fear Him.
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Indeed, those who exchange the covenant of Allah and their oaths for a small price will have no share in the Hereafter, and Allah will not speak to them or look at them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them; and they will have a painful punishment.
378
And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allah ," but it is not from Allah . And they speak untruth about Allah while they know.
This is a reference to the Talmud and how the Israelites broke their covenant thatw as entrusted upo them by changing many of the commandments of the OT and replacing it with their own traditions. Jesus as we know attacked the Talmud in the Gospel and accused the Pharisees of abrogating the OT comandments with their Talmud.
Example
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean" the wages owed him for work.
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen" it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges" to circumvent a Gentile.
http//www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
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A promise is not an oath as I understand it. The word "ayman" is what refers to oaths and neither of those you posted are those, which this topic is about oaths only.
Anyways the issue is 377 that I want an answer to, please and thank you.
Peace,
Hope the following aayat will be helpful inshaAllah.
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589 Allah will not impose blame upon you for what is meaningless in your oaths, but He will impose blame upon you for what you intended of oaths. So its expiation is the feeding of ten needy people from the average of that which you feed your families or clothing them or the freeing of a slave. But whoever cannot find ? then a fast of three days. That is the expiation for oaths when you have sworn. But guard your oaths. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be grateful.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhan