Who is your مُنَادِيًا
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Peace,
So I am considered astray? Thanks.
God bless you
Salam,
Get out of your subconscious mind and please read the post again. Wandering and astray are not synonymous.
Stop roaming aimlessely. Listen to the words of the Book of Allah. Use conscious mind. Allah has given you more than one brain---Qur'aan uses plural of paucity for it. Use the topmost brain, not the middle one.
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Peace,
I am concentrated on the words of the Quran, but I believe there is a spiritual aspect of God's religion too.
Your problem is that the Quran is your idol despite being the words of God.
Of course God is present in this world, talking about God's spirit is just to make it comprehensible.
And Quran is Guidance but only with the help of God. There are countless numbers of people who read Quran and does not understand a thing. This is because they lack Guidance, God has sealed their minds and is not supporting them. They can really try but they cannot extract a simple thing from the Book.
God's influence is required to be able to progress on the Path. Certainly angels will help too, but they carry out the Will of God.
I think you can read and understand the words of Quran yet not grasp the Message. When you say God is not interacting in this world is a proof of this.
Well, I suppose it is pointless to discuss with you such as some other people around feel. We can agree on that you have your deen and I have mine.
God bless you
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Peace,
I am concentrated on the words of the Quran, but I believe there is a spiritual aspect of God's religion too.
Your problem is that the Quran is your idol despite being the words of God.
Of course God is present in this world, talking about God's spirit is just to make it comprehensible.
And Quran is Guidance but only with the help of God. There are countless numbers of people who read Quran and does not understand a thing. This is because they lack Guidance, God has sealed their minds and is not supporting them. They can really try but they cannot extract a simple thing from the Book.
God's influence is required to be able to progress on the Path. Certainly angels will help too, but they carry out the Will of God.
I think you can read and understand the words of Quran yet not grasp the Message. When you say God is not interacting in this world is a proof of this.
Well, I suppose it is pointless to discuss with you such as some other people around feel. We can agree on that you have your deen and I have mine.
God bless you
Salam,
This is yet another aspect of your problem. You scatter yourself into vast territories without encompassing the area.
Reading and understanding of the semantic information of the text yields you the message and the voice of author whose book one is reading. The book is authored to convey the intentions of the author to its reader and his expectations about reciprocal response.
You wish not to first listen to the author but wish to locate his spirit around you. One cannot announce even his belief without the will of the Creator because every cell of human body is ordained and contains inbuilt written guidance of the Creator.
The Providence is all around us. But guidance is when you wish to listen His words spoken through the Messenger. -
Peace everyone,
Mazhar - I think I agree with you partly, then.
Man of Faith - I also agree with your point about needing God's guidance on an individual basis in terms of understanding the Quran and in life in general. I think if people worry about confusion, they simply need to say I seek refuge with Allah from the outcast Shaitan. I happen to believe, according to my understanding, that Shaitan is a metaphor for evil but I know not everyone agrees with that. I believe there is a verse that says when people do feel some confusion or things like that - when they say that, and they make a prayer they can see clearly again but right now I don't have time to look up the verse.
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Peace,
The Message is in the text yes. But it would be naive to believe that God is not present in the world as we know it and our only guidance is a book.
God's spirit can be in you even before you encounter the Quran since His Message is not restricted to it. People like Abraham could be believers and they had no scripture to guide them and in fact the was little in terms of scriptural information until God had the Quran revealed. Loads of people have managed to be guided before the Quran and the information was mostly hearsay and when Moses came it was stone tablets. Lots of scrolls of parchment have existed but they were not God's exact wordings.
I combine my system, I read and try to understand the Quran but I do also follow the inspiration I receive and I base my life upon the words God wrote in His Book now once I discovered about it.
But without God the Quran could have meant nothing and I may have discarded the Book without even giving it a chance.
Well we blame each other for problems and I see yours is idolization of Quran. You place it as more important than God and that Quran is an intercessor and mediator. It is the same as Christians who believe you need to go through Jesus' words for salvation, but in your case it is replaced by God's own book.
What about your own Wisdom and Knowledge, you believe it cannot be a blessing from God for putting your trust in him? You believe we cannot have nearness to God as "person" and that He is personally guiding us? God is One.
God bless you
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The Message is in the text yes. But it would be naive to believe that God is not present in the world as we know it and our only guidance is a book.
Salam,
Providence means presence of Allah the Exalted and His Will all the time and everywhere. His presence and His Will with regard to us is known and becomes evident through His Words. We hear the voice in the Book. The best book is the one wherein the reader can hear the voice of the author.
Inspiration comes from the Book. Qur'aan is a persuasive book. Its Author wants us to act upon it after having thoughtfully evalualated it. Sincereity comes only when one agrees in letter and spirit with the message conveyed by the Author.
Qur'aan is the SIMPLEST book in the world. It tells in simplest words the desire of its Author as to how the man should manage his own self and understand his surroundings wherein he lives. This is the simplest Manual for the top of line product ever created-the Man. Why to complicate one's life with inspirations outside its contents?
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Salam,
Let me tell your problem. You do not concentrate on the words and the sentence but remain busy in roaming inside your own brain.
See the coloured part of your quote. It is a complete sentence beginning with verb like particle which is used to lay emphasis upon its predicate. Its subject noun is and predicate is a possessive phrase. It is telling the is certainly the guidance of Allah. Anything beyond it is not guidance but wandering. I think this much you know that subject and predicate are two different things having an ascription-relationship.
Salaamun alayka,
Please spare me your grammar terms, we already know you are a big master in it, probably you can confuse others with it but it does not confuse me for 0.000...0001%.
It only shows that you are totally lost in your grammar books and grammar books are not huda of Allah. Thus to say it in your words, you are wandering, and the sad thing is that you don't even realize it.You made a statement and that statement was "Alhuda is Qur'aan" and that statement is simply not correct, no matter how hard you try to make it work with your grammar rules.
Salaam,
Benderps. the fact that you think that your "" is Mohammed already shows that has not yet reached you, you are still in the huda of grammar books and ahadith.
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Peace,
The Quran is simple yes, but for what good is that when God has prevented people from receiving Guidance and their minds are sealed to gain Wisdom and Knowledge, they are sealed off from the Message. No you say that god is not present in this world, he is handicapped, he could not interact with his own world. His might is limited to a book he had written down.
And you said inspiration outside of its contents? If the inspiration is from God, then of course it follows the guidelines set out in the Quran. But if God is alive He will then he will also be able to interact on another level other than a physical book. Or no, not if you believe God has no spirit, or presence, in this world.
Quran is not the only existing thing from God in this world, for He is always present nearby. Although Quran is the only "visible" thing from God, but He is always near listening and watching. You can trust that God will listen when you call out to Him for help. Who do you call out for help to? Quran? Is the Quran going to work for you?
It is a manual of life, nothing particularly magical about it. It is a perfect composition and lacks nothing you need to know, but it does nothing on its own without God. But on a fundamental level it is not more different from reading an operator's manual for your new car for example.
The manual for your car does not change its oil or air filter. The Quran does nothing for your benefit unless you sit down and study it, but if you do not believe in what you read you will not follow the recommendations. You need to believe in the Wisdom of its author to believe in it. And that belief the Quran does not provide. It takes more deep philosophies beyond that and contact with your Creator.
Had it not been for God's interaction in my life I would not be a Believer and it was not due to Quran or the Bible. I myself, through God's "hand", discovered and drew the conclusion that there has to be a divine God and I started to believe. The Quran was not even involved at that time, I begun to receive Guidance from Him and first later encountered Quran AFTER I had actively begun to believe and follow God's path.
The Quran is a bonus, information to help us as a blessing from the Lord. It says it is a Guide/Guidance and it is because God does not directly speak to us but through inspiration and then the Quran is the only physical proof you have of God and it can improve your Faith at best. Quran is a Guide, but so is its author, God.
God bless you
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Quran is a Guide, but so is its author, God.
Salam,
Reverse the order Allah the Exalted is the Guide. He the Exalted guides verbally-the best mode for the understanding and comprehension of humans. Verbal written guidance is always authentic not intermixed with opinions of people and one can refer to it any moment to verify whether one is really following the guidance of Allah in physical realm--attitudes, socialization, behaviors, thoughts, beliefs, and acts. Verbal written guidance leaves no scope for man to err.
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Peace,
Ok. Thank you for your opinion brother Mazhar.
God bless you
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Salaamun alayka,
ps. the fact that you think that your "" is Mohammed already shows that has not yet reached you, you are still in the huda of grammar books and ahadith.
I already knew he is not your . Who is your you have not mentioned. Are you doubtful about his credentials but somehow take him as such?
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Salam,
7201
Peace,
Yes - 7200-201 that's what I was referring to. Thanks!
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I already knew he is not your .
salaamun alayka,
If you already knew that then why did you gave me only those 3 options to choose from hmm
Who is your you have not mentioned. Are you doubtful about his credentials but somehow take him as such?
How can I be doubtfull about Rasulu Allah &
Salaam,
Bender -
salaamun alayka,
If you already knew that then why did you gave me only those 3 options to choose from hmm
How can I be doubtfull about Rasulu Allah &
Salaam,
BenderI do not know the fourth who might be claimant as . Why are you shy to name the one whom you consider and treat as your ?
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I do not know the fourth who might be claimant as . Why are you shy to name the one whom you consider and treat as your ?
Salaamun alayka,
I already gave you my answer, but maybe you missed it. I will give it to you again, inshaAllah this time you will be able to see it clearly.
RASULU ALLAH
I hope this size helped a bit.
If you only looked 1 ayaat further then you would have had your answer to your question.
But unfortantly because of your obsession about your lord Mohammed you see what is not there and and you don't see what is there.Salaam,
Bender -
Salaamun alayka,
I already gave you my answer, but maybe you missed it. I will give it to you again, inshaAllah this time you will be able to see it clearly.
RASULU ALLAH
I hope this size helped a bit.
If you only looked 1 ayaat further then you would have had your answer to your question.
But unfortantly because of your obsession about your lord Mohammed you see what is not there and and you don't see what is there.Salaam,
BenderWhat is his name?
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Salaamun alayka,
It is not clear to me yet, at the moment Allah showed me only that it is His Rasul.
When Allah shows me more I will inshaAllah inform you.pr
BenderYou call him Rasul Allah and call him as your but when asked about his name you come up with a self baked story that Allah showed you. Earlier he was your caller and advisor. Now you claim Allah has also shown him to you but you do not know his name.
Your Arabic quote is incorrectly spelled. Put the original Qul before it, this will correct it. And find who is he whom this direction is given.
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You call him Rasul Allah and call him as your but when asked about his name you come up with a self baked story that Allah showed you. Earlier he was your caller and advisor. Now you claim Allah has also shown him to you but you do not know his name.
Salaamun alayka,
Exactly!!! You understood it perfectly, except for the red part.
Do you have any problems with this?Your Arabic quote is incorrectly spelled. Put the original Qul before it, this will correct it.
Ah I see you want to play it in this way.
Let me inform you that Allah already showed me long time ago the tashdeed on the RA of RRABBI, and He showed me more hail
And therefore I am not in a position to change anything what is from His Book, I fear Allah.Anymore tricks?
And find who is he whom this direction is given.
I already found out, Alhamdulillah hail
When you find out, then praise The One who created you.Salaam,
Bender