Circumcision: The Way of Prophet Abraham
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How didi notice? D D D D Man, that was ever an understatement.
Common, Israfeel, loosen up a little bit. With discussions like this neither you nor anybody is going to open de gates or heaven or even hell. Relax, man, relax.
Hehehe, I actually laughing after posting some like that.
I'm never mad to Israfeel, but akhi Israfeel is just like Sunnis in my country which I debated, they never go straight point just rounding themself like a tire. -
But why dont hadither women die out of shame when they read hadith which in details describe how muhammad had sex brickwall
rotfl yeah, I read that kind of gossips once in the 'holy book of gossip according to the sunni scholar'.
That's what amaze me on these member of the "Cult Of Muhammad", they want to know everything about Muhammad, including his sexual and also toilet behavior even when Muhammad already long dead.
And I'm more amazed how the 8th century people also invented such stories just to give them a 'reference which they can look up to'.Honestly the above attitude is 'unique' only to the "Cult Of Muhammad", I haven't seen the same behavior in any other cult or religion in the world. I mean does the cult of Jesus / christians ever bothered to ask "How did Jesus take his leak?"
Salam / Peace
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Just wondering how were circumcisions performed back in those days without general or local anesthesia?
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Peace justamuslim,
There were several ways, some ate poisons which affected CNS and sometimes they hit the patient in the head with a club so they went unconscious.
Well, or so they just performed the surgery placing something in the mouth of the patient during operation. The patient often got something to hold on to and sometimes there were people trying to draw the attention of the patient by trying to calm him down.
God bless you
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I am sure that some of the preposterous hadiths were intended as jokes. They are jokes and if you take them as jokes they make sense.
How somebody got to think of them as anything but jokes may be something on which to diagnose a mental disposition devoid of imagination and common sense. Like what, serving 100 women in a night. ?For God sake, that is the kind of jolly joke some bunch of men or women would say in a round of jokes and laughing. ?How on earth could anybody be su nuts as to read such a thing seriously. Can't remember whether it was 100 or what, but something along wild exageration not for a prophet but even for a squid.
Salaam
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Israfeel,
You have the right to disagree, strongly object, be appalled, disgusted or whatever with my views/beliefs and can express your opinions but you do not have the right to ridicule me in the manner that you have by quoting me with your comments as your signature.
I ask that you read the rules of this forum. When you show disrespect for someone, you are only disrespecting yourself.
Madame how have I disrespected or ridiculed you? I only quoted your exact words to the letter. I didn't add a single dot to what you yourself wrote.
So how exactly am I disrespecting or ridiculing you? Are you saying that quote of yours is a source of disrespect and ridicule for you? Well if that's the case I will take it down. Just tell me to take down your quote and I will. But remember, its only your words not mine.
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Madame how have I disrespected or ridiculed you? I only quoted your exact words to the letter. I didn't add a single dot to what you yourself wrote.
So how exactly am I disrespecting or ridiculing you? Are you saying that quote of yours is a source of disrespect and ridicule for you? Well if that's the case I will take it down. Just tell me to take down your quote and I will. But remember, its only your words not mine.
Why did you take my words and use it as your signature? What is your intention? And you think it is showing respect?
If you wish to display your immaturity then by all means continue on. Like I said, your actions show who you are and I believe you have displayed that clearly for everyone - God included.
Take it down when YOU see your behavior as being immature, disrespectful in this discussion forum.
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Just tell me to take down your quote and I will.
Again a display of irresponsibility. Why must she tell you? Don't you have any sense of responsibility yourself? Can't you think and act on your own? Stop putting all responsibility on others.
But remember, its only your words not mine.
No dear brother, these are in effect YOUR words now, because it is YOU who spread'em. HER words were posted ONCE. You then decided to mulitply them... and that's purely on you now.
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Why did you take my words and use it as your signature? What is your intention? And you think it is showing respect?
If you wish to display your immaturity then by all means continue on. Like I said, your actions show who you are and I believe you have displayed that clearly for everyone - God included.
Take it down when YOU see your behavior as being immature, disrespectful in this discussion forum.
Trolling is as old as forums. What makes us think now that it and extinct species? And I doubt that the troll is a bona fide anything, either hadither or anything else.
Salaam
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I was just thinking.... on the flip side, what israfeel is doing may actually be a good thing. There are many lurkers who frequent this forum one of whom may be a closet Sunni or a hadith follower conditioned to feel ashamed for having oral sex with spouse.... Just reading what I said which israfeel is now using as his signature might lead the person to see the fallacies and making him/her think.
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I'm not sure either Israfeel is a Muslim or anti-Muslim troll who pretends to be a Muslim. He extremely supports the blasphemy laws in the hadith created by Bukhari & Buddies 2 centuries after Prophet Muhammad's death. Hs truly upholds the hadith much higher over Quran. According to him, Muslims cannot chew food because Quran does not tell how to chew food.
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http//www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/DOC/links.html
http//www.circumcision.org/index.html
Bottom Line Anything not mentioned in Quran is NOT something we should concern ourselves with in terms of spiritual salvation.
My future baby will not go to hell if he is not circumcised. I would never put my son through that.
Remember Allah said that if the Quran were from anyone but God, you would find in it many contradictions. And you can find plenty in Hadith.
I recommend reading 3elm el Jamaa3 by Imam Al Shafi' (The amalgamation of knowledge). He had to debate and convince all the scholars of his time (200 yrs after death of Prophet Muhammad) to embrace Al-Akhbar (stories/hadith), to make them binding and obligatory on Muslims. That should tell you something.