What Do you know about Al Jehad in Islam?
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Peace be upon you,
I agree with the basis of this thread so far, but I question
When the companions of the Prophet Muhammed (saws) went out for the offensive jihad against the Egyptians, the Persians and the Romans, we find that the people did not resist against them at all.
What is the offensive Jihad? And why is it being potrayed from the hadiths other than the God's hadith that every other place (Egyptians, persians, and Romans) were misguided? Why does one that is claimed to be from MECCA, have to go all around the world, don't they have thier own messengers who speak thier own language?
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Peace be upon you,
I agree with the basis of this thread so far, but I question
When the companions of the Prophet Muhammed (saws) went out for the offensive jihad against the Egyptians, the Persians and the Romans, we find that the people did not resist against them at all.
What is the offensive Jihad? And why is it being potrayed from the hadiths other than the God's hadith that every other place (Egyptians, persians, and Romans) were misguided? Why does one that is claimed to be from MECCA, have to go all around the world, don't they have thier own messengers who speak thier own language?
salaam my friend ,
Despite of your condemnable questions ,I will answer them to reflect my principles and values.
The main reason for offensive jihad was that the message of Islam influenced the desire to dominate and to overpower of rich people and leaders upon poor and ordinary people.
At the beginning of Islam, many leaders at that times( Even the rich people of Macca) prevented their people from taking their own decision to enter Islam if they believed in it, so Mohammed (PUH) called those leaders to leave their people to take their own decision to accept Islam or reject it, but they refused and started to prepare for attacking Muslims because they saw that he was very dangerous upon them and their authorities, because Islam call for Justice and equality .
Those are some verses From My Holy Book Quraan explain the real conditiones of Al Jehad in Islam .
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2190)"
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 861)"
"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. Noble Quran528
"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers". Noble Quran 608
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2193)"
"Let there be no compulsion in religion Truth stands out clear from error whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2256)"
"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves let (false) hope amuse them soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 152-3)"
"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord' Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it)......(The Noble Quran, 1829)"
"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 1099)"
"Say 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message). (The Noble Quran, 2454)"
"Say O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. (The Noble Quran, 1091-6)"
Thanks to all
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New friend,
Islam is not a religion but the righteous way from error.
Thus striving in the way of Allah can be both peaceful and physical. The Prophet Muhammed (saws) said "The best jihad is (by) the one who strives against his own self for Allah, The Mighty and Majestic"
What is quoted above as having said by the prophet infact does not speak about the physical jihad. Jehad can never be physical. According to Quran there is no categorization of jehads. Above, the prophet was misquoted or misinterpreted. By the way, is it necessary that we write the 'quotes' of the people who claim their own utterrances as muhammad's sayings? It is better if we avoided such things as hadiths.
If we fight in the cause of Allah Allah fights for you; not that do you fight. He throws for you; He slays the enmies; not that do you throw or slay. You keep yourself close with Allah and Allah is near to you and with you; You follow Him - He leads you. He is the chief of armies; unlike the army of the world-order the leader of which is shaitaan. Be righteous and free yourselves from errenoeous path.
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2190)"
We are ordained to fight in just manner; tooth for tooth; eye for eye; blood for blood; for wounds as such - the infidels plan well before they begin striking you; so you plan equally tough to deter them. But then you should have believed in Allah, and left the whole affair of fighting the infidels with Allah, for He Is The Best of The Divisers! This is jehad. Not that you take to the NUKES is jehad! with Allah is the Unseen armies!
Have you not seen how the prophets of earlier times won - the people of Lut, Firaun, Irum, Samud, Aad, Madyan and so on? And best still, have we not seen how allah defeated and destroyed the earlier communities, much powerful and stronger than these puny nuclear-ragtag armies? This is Faith and Belief! Let Allah come to your help and rescue and jehad will be won by Allah's armies alone. But then what is expected of you? For you Observe Patience, in the Name of Allah suffices!
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New friend,
Islam is not a religion but the righteous way from error.
Thus striving in the way of Allah can be both peaceful and physical. The Prophet Muhammed (saws) said "The best jihad is (by) the one who strives against his own self for Allah, The Mighty and Majestic"
What is quoted above as having said by the prophet infact does not speak about the physical jihad. Jehad can never be physical. According to Quran there is no categorization of jehads. Above, the prophet was misquoted or misinterpreted. By the way, is it necessary that we write the 'quotes' of the people who claim their own utterrances as muhammad's sayings? It is better if we avoided such things as hadiths.-
Salaam for all .
This is your own perception about this issue.......
What do you mean by (Islam is not a religion but the righteous way from error)??The root of the word Jihad in the Arabic language is Jihad which means give more effort to do some thing , and when we resisting our desire to do unacceptable things in Islam ( such as harming others , lies ,drink Alcohol......) we are actually Mojahedeen against our desire to do bad things which is influence others and our self negatively .
Also when we resist the unjustice and oppression of others and help the poor and the weak people we are practice AlJehad ,and this is what our prophet did at the beginning of Al Islam .
Thanks to all
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Peace be upon you New Friend,
Peaceful submission is a way of life, religions are sects, what does the God say about SECTS?
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Peace be upon you,
I agree with the basis of this thread so far, but I question
When the companions of the Prophet Muhammed (saws) went out for the offensive jihad against the Egyptians, the Persians and the Romans, we find that the people did not resist against them at all.
What is the offensive Jihad? And why is it being potrayed from the hadiths other than the God's hadith that every other place (Egyptians, persians, and Romans) were misguided? Why does one that is claimed to be from MECCA, have to go all around the world, don't they have thier own messengers who speak thier own language?
salaam my friend ,
Despite of your condemnable questions ,I will answer them to reflect my principles and values.
Those are some verses From My Holy Book Quraan explain the real conditiones of Al Jehad in Islam .
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2190)"
"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. Noble Quran528
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2193)"
Thanks to all
As'Salaam Alaykum All,
I think the main source of confusion in this discussion is the inconsistency in terms. It has been correctly stated that "jihad" means to struggle against/to deny... as in the struggle with one's own nafs, but then (as in the verses shown above) it is also being identified as fighting or warfare. The mistake being made is that in these verses we do not see the word jihad, but instead "Qatala", and it's derivatives.
Waqtiloo fee sabeeli Allhi allaeena yuqtiloonakum wal taAAtadoo inna Allha l yuibbu almuAAtadeen(a)
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.Al-Qur'an, Al-Baqara 2190
Waqtiloohum att l takoona fitnatun wayakoona a(l)ddeenu lillhi fa-ini intahaw fal AAudwna ill AAal a(l){thth}limeen(a)
And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.Al-Baqara 2193
La-in basata ilayya yadaka litaqtulanee m an bibsiin yadiya ilayka li-aqtulaka innee akhfu Allha rabba alAAlameen(a)
"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee for I do fear Allah, the cherisher of the worlds.Al-Maeda 528
However, if we look at a few of the verses where "jahada" is actually used we will see that it does not, in fact, mean fight/warfare but instead "to struggle/strive/deny".
Inna allaeena manoo wa(a)llaeena hjaroo wajhadoo fee sabeeli Allhi ol-ika yarjoona ramata Allhi wa(A)llhu ghafoorun raeem(un)
Those who believed and those who suffered exile and fought (and strove and struggled) in the path of Allah,- they have the hope of the Mercy of Allah And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.Al-Baqara 2218
Am asibtum an tadkhuloo aljannata walamm yaAAlami Allhu allaeena jhadoo minkum wayaAAlama a(l)bireen(a)
Did ye think that ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those of you who fought hard (In His Cause) and remained steadfast?Aal-E-Imran 3142
Inna allaeena manoo wahjaroo wajhadoo bi-amwlihim waanfusihim fee sabeeli Allhi wa(a)llaeena waw wanaaroo ol-ika baAAuhum awliyo baAAin wa(a)llaeena manoo walam yuhjiroo m lakum min walyatihim min shay-in att yuhjiroo wa-ini istanarookum fee a(l)ddeeni faAAalaykumu a(l)nnaru ill AAal qawmin baynakum wabaynahum meethqun wa(A)llhu bim taAAmaloona baeer(un)
Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property and their persons, in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid,- these are (all) friends and protectors, one of another. As to those who believed but came not into exile, ye owe no duty of protection to them until they come into exile; but if they seek your aid in religion, it is your duty to help them, except against a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance. And (remember) Allah seeth all that ye do.Al-Anfal 872
As it has been stated many times in the Qur'an, "it is a book of evidence, made clear!" It is my humble opinion that if we stick to the Qur'an as our source of law, we will be better equipped to adhere to the necessary practices that will enable us to serve the "System" and "Order" of Allah.
Waanzaln ilayka alkitba bi(a)laqqi muaddiqan lim bayna yadayhi mina alkitbi wamuhayminan AAalayhi fa(o)kum baynahum bim anzala Allhu wal tattabiAA ahwahum AAamm jaka mina alaqqi likullin jaAAaln minkum shirAAatan waminhjan walaw sha Allhu lajaAAalakum ommatan widatan walkin liyabluwakum feem tkum fa(i)stabiqoo alkhayrti il Allhi marjiAAukum jameeAAan fayunabbi-okum bim kuntum feehi takhtalifoon(a)
To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;Al-Maeda 548
May Allah continue to bless us with guidance.
Ma'Salaam,
Olu'sanya -
Peace be upon you Olusanya,
Good clarifications brother
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Peace be upon you New Friend,
Peaceful submission is a way of life, religions are sects, what does the God say about SECTS?
Salaam for you idolfree1,
I think our God discourage the idea of sectarianism .he said in his great holy book Quraan
Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with
you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform
them of everything they had done.(Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide
their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what
they have.Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the
knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and
resentment among themselves. If it were not for a
predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for
a definite interim, they would have been judged
immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited
the scripture are full of doubts..Thanks to all
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peace be upon you,
Peace be upon you New Friend,
Peaceful submission is a way of life, religions are sects, what does the God say about SECTS?
Salaam for you idolfree1,
I think our God discourage the idea of sectarianism .he said in his great holy book Quraan
Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with
you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform
them of everything they had done.(Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide
their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what
they have.Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the
knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and
resentment among themselves. If it were not for a
predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for
a definite interim, they would have been judged
immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited
the scripture are full of doubts..Thanks to all
the word translated as religion by the sectarian (religious) corrupters is deen which means way of life or system
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peace be upon you,
the word translated as religion by the sectarian (religious) corrupters is deen which means way of life or system
Salaam Alycum Idris ,
Please explain for me what do you mean by your comment above !!!!!!
and what is your opinion about Al Jehad in Islam .Thanks to all