What is God's role with Born Disabled?
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Man of faith,
Salaams again. I don't care for long posts although they end up that way and so I thought of breaking it up )
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Okay. Your idea is being blunt against those who are wrong or trying to (probably unintentionally) spread disinformation may be compared to the expression to "fight fire with fire". You may make him even more determined to continue his extremism.I don't know if i am understanding you right. Are you saying that asking drfazl for information about himself, asking for evidence, calling out on his behavior and farfetched claims is "fight fire with fire" and this will drive him more extreme?
By the way, I am curious to know what you think of the author of the Koran who is extremely blunt. His warnings are stern, to the point and clear. No sugar coating about it. When I read certain verses, i feel the intensity that i just close the book....
Although many here seem to be so captivated by drfazl's posts encouraging him on, coming to his defense... few did refer to the verses reminding him of God's clear warnings.
Now, drfazl can clean up his act or he can continue persisting in his ways and taking along people with him. Obviously he has his supporters. That is his choice and he alone is solely responsible and accountable for his actions. I am not responsible for his extremism, lies, and bad behavior.
Also let me just say that I don't see myself as someone here to guide anyone to God's truths. It is God who guides people who want to be guided. When i see someone lying, behaving badly, leading people astray, I stand up (also do that outside the forum) and say what needs to be said. I feel obliged to.
Manoffaith, by referencing drfazl in your posts, supporting his alleged faith in God, coming to his defense well....you know that is also a statement and reflection of you. Might what to think about that.
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Peace justamuslim,
Honestly, if you are going to judge me based on the fact I like some of his ideas feel free to do so. I have said I do not support more than this and that I am somewhat impressed by his 'alleged' Faith in God. It is how things seem to me.
Apart from this I have been trying to become closer to this person out of a neutral aspect without intending to fight him with fire. In case you did not know I have been criticizing him before about some of his stances on his topics, but he never was rude or something like that to me. May it has been something like how I encountered him with criticism.
As I said, I do not support him all out. I do not claim that doctors are pawns of evil and it is not a sin to go to the doctor. The part I agree on is that we should emphasize on our reliance upon God, and that we should try to trust God before we trust the doctors even though they do their best to help us. God's abilities are better than any one doctor.
Sister, I am seeing! And also each individual's behavior has a lasting effect on my feelings towards them.
I do not stand by him if he says bad things to you or anyone else and I do not support misinformation, but I also think that you should have respect due to the fact someone may be talking out of ignorance.
Unfortunately I do not identify the God you tell me about from the Quran. This God is like a good father to me or mentor in case God feels offended by this term after the Jesus scandal.
You shall remember that I am a man who is trying (even if I do not always succeed) to be a friend of my enemy so to say, although I do not consider him an enemy but it was just a comparison. I support drfazl's freedom of speech and he can have his ideas as long as he does not force them upon someone. I may tell him what I think about them occasionally, but he is like a brother to me.
I will try to support and calm you down too and so that we can all see the peace around us. I see you a bit provocative and unfriendly to the words, although I know some people simply are like that, part of their personality. I have to cope with that. I think if you thought about the encounter with drfazl and changed your tactics you might stand a better chance at effecting him. Now you just give him more fuel to the fire.
God bless you
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Everyone shall read this link below, tendering my apology to justamuslim which she ignored and her main aim is the apology should go unnoticed to others. She never acknowledged my apology until now but on the other hand she is hell-bent on tainting me. So I do not care who she is. I will answer her only with the ayats of Quran and she has to counter me with the ayats of Quran. And if she does not I shall ignore the post.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605427.msg329703#msg329703
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peace savage_carrot
Really? Another poster making disbeliever accusations if anyone talks about going to a doctor when they're sick? That's not extreme at all.
What would you people do really? Lie down and die while muttering to God we return, if you're even conscious and do nothing else even if you have the resources to because that would mean one is becoming a disbeliever? Seriously? It's completely off base to even a remotely objective reader but obviously not to those who belong to the Allah will save us, we shouldn't have to do anything camp.(296) And thou wilt most certainly find that they cling to life more eagerly than any other people, even more than those who are bent on ascribing divinity to other beings beside God every one of them would love to live a thousand years, although the grant of long life could not save him from suffering for God sees all that they do.
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Peace
answer me with the Qur'an quraniyoon/quranite please, and not with pages and pages of conjecture (if you are truly a Qur'an follower) , because you are giving me the same answers I get from false Christians, false yews, atheist, polytheist, and witchcraft believers.
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peace savage_carrot
(296) And thou wilt most certainly find that they cling to life more eagerly than any other people, even more than those who are bent on ascribing divinity to other beings beside God every one of them would love to live a thousand years, although the grant of long life could not save him from suffering for God sees all that they do.All those who want to get well if they're sick are now disbelievers, because they are clinging to life more eagerly as they want to get better. Nothing to do with doctors, medicine or cures even! Obviously a particular set is being mentioned...what is that set? Look at the context and see for yourself 293 etc. Even the verse posted itself contradicts 'more than those who associate others with Allah' when you guys yourself say the unforgivable sin is associating doctors/medicine with God. Only those who're willing to lie down and die refusing any cure except a mystical one are true believers...and they don't want to get better as even wanting to is now a no no. Right. Basically, now you and drfazl are disbelieving athiests just like me unless you don't want to get better when you're sick. Congrats and welcome to the club. Pick your badge up by the door.
Peace
answer me with the Qur'an quraniyoon/quranite please, and not with pages and pages of conjecture (if you are truly a Qur'an follower) , because you are giving me the same answers I get from false Christians, false yews, atheist, polytheist, and witchcraft believers.
I prefer true larches to false yews. There's basically little point in 'answer me with the Qur'an quraniyoon/quranite' when there's little reasoning to be had, which one should use to start with before trying to understand any book, let alone the quran.
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Peace justamuslim,
Honestly, if you are going to judge me based on the fact I like some of his ideas feel free to do so. I have said I do not support more than this and that I am somewhat impressed by his 'alleged' Faith in God. It is how things seem to me.
Apart from this I have been trying to become closer to this person out of a neutral aspect without intending to fight him with fire. In case you did not know I have been criticizing him before about some of his stances on his topics, but he never was rude or something like that to me. May it has been something like how I encountered him with criticism.
As I said, I do not support him all out. I do not claim that doctors are pawns of evil and it is not a sin to go to the doctor. The part I agree on is that we should emphasize on our reliance upon God, and that we should try to trust God before we trust the doctors even though they do their best to help us. God's abilities are better than any one doctor.
Sister, I am seeing! And also each individual's behavior has a lasting effect on my feelings towards them.
I do not stand by him if he says bad things to you or anyone else and I do not support misinformation, but I also think that you should have respect due to the fact someone may be talking out of ignorance.
Unfortunately I do not identify the God you tell me about from the Quran. This God is like a good father to me or mentor in case God feels offended by this term after the Jesus scandal.
You shall remember that I am a man who is trying (even if I do not always succeed) to be a friend of my enemy so to say, although I do not consider him an enemy but it was just a comparison. I support drfazl's freedom of speech and he can have his ideas as long as he does not force them upon someone. I may tell him what I think about them occasionally, but he is like a brother to me.
I will try to support and calm you down too and so that we can all see the peace around us. I see you a bit provocative and unfriendly to the words, although I know some people simply are like that, part of their personality. I have to cope with that. I think if you thought about the encounter with drfazl and changed your tactics you might stand a better chance at effecting him. Now you just give him more fuel to the fire.
God bless you
Manoffaith,
You seem very defensive. But why? I am almost to the point of giveup
Listen, I am not "judging" you but I see things for what they are. I call into question the sanity of anyone who states that the ovaries are empty sac before age 12 and post menopausal woman can conceive and a woman doesn't need a man to conceive or that sperms rape the ovum. You don't see the absolute absurdity in his claims? Or do you also hold the same position?
So manoffaith, what you are saying is that I should not question drfazl on his claims? I should not ask him to provide evidence? I should not point out the absolute nonsense of what he says? I should not ask him of his background or intentions? As these will provoke him??
Fight fire with fire? No, I would call it exposing absolute nonsense, absurdity, insanity with truths.
If anything manoffaith, you have (perhaps inadvertently and unknowingly) enabled him. Now, drfazl has "escaped" from answering questions about himself and his claims.
Manoffaith, I don't see myself in the same manner as you do. You want to be "friends" to affect someone. Like I said previously, I am not here to save, guide or affect anyone. That is simply not how I see myself in my professional or personal life.
Listen, God has made it crystal clear with no uncertain terms about the consequences of twisting his words, inventing lies and attributing things to him. God is very blunt in his warnings. By supporting drfazl's freedom of speech, what you are doing is supporting his lies, twisting of God's words to support his absolute absurd nonsense like a woman doesn't need a man to conceive.
I really ask that you please step back and think of what you are saying. People like drfazl are dangerous in many levels and someone can potentially get severely harmed or die. And I think that I will leave it at that.
Manoffaith, with all due respect, I really think that you have lost sight with your nice guy approach. I really ask that you please step back and see things. Like you said, God does not just guide us with a book. Just as satan does his work through people, and so does God.
Anyhow, I have been really thinking of late about leaving this site like faithfuljinn recently.
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Peace justamuslim,
I think what drfazl means that if God wills a woman does not need sperm to conceive. This was the case with Mary.
On the contrary, I think recent criticism against him has made drfazl tone down on his most controversial claims.
It was never a question about not criticizing him, it was about how to encounter him.
I think drfazl might be unintentionally spreading misinformation if that is so, but I doubt he is lying.
God bless you
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Aoa
Anyhow, I have been really thinking of late about leaving this site like faithfuljinn recently.
I sincerely hope not. The site needs more people like you to counter & dilute the influence of the fraudsters and quacks. I mean what a bigger hypocrite than calling ones self a dr and then stating doctors are evil. These type need exposing and not to be left unchallenged to spread their nonsense. Unfortunately many believe their lies often with deadly consequences.
I think drfazl might be unintentionally spreading misinformation if that is so, but I doubt he is lying.
Which bit of his misinformation do you feel is unintentional? Virtually every scientific
/medical fact he has quoted is false, do you think that is unintentional!
If he is so innocent why don't you ask him to respond to simple factual questions such as what kind of doctor he is.
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I sincerely hope not. The site needs more people like you to counter & dilute the influence of the fraudsters and quacks. I mean what a bigger hypocrite than calling ones self a dr and then stating doctors are evil. These type need exposing and not to be left unchallenged to spread their nonsense. Unfortunately many believe their lies often with deadly consequences.
Which bit of his misinformation do you feel is unintentional? Virtually every scientific
/medical fact he has quoted is false, do you think that is unintentional!
If he is so innocent why don't you ask him to respond to simple factual questions such as what kind of doctor he is.
RegardsPeace to All
To those who ask who is Dr.Fazl Again and again .
Out of sheer modesty he does not speak much about himself .
Dr. Fazlur Rahman
MBBS DV MD PhD(Acu)
Having graduated in Medicine from Stanley Medical College , Dr Fazlur Rahman completed his post graduation from Madras Medical College , University of Madras in 1978 and 1982. Even as an under graduate he was disillusioned with the concept and practice of modern medicine since he found it to be not merely symptomatic, suppressive or palliative medicine but more dangerous in that that it is the only medical system in the history of the medical world which triggers off many, many adverse reactions endlessly until finally the patients bound under its deadly grip in the hospitals are declared dead. Modern medicine with its suppressive and symptomatic therapy has made every single disease complicated with the drugs induced diseases to accumulate and exacerbate an otherwise near normal healthy condition of the patients to such deleterious situation that the patients are shifted from the medical ward to the surgical ward for emergency operation of the organs concerned with the diseases. For example simple tonsillitis is turned into acute tonsillitis; likewise simple appendicitis is worsened to acute appendicitis; an ear infection becomes acute emergency whereupon the patients are shifted to the operation table. And worse still, the situation is not over there; the medicines induced various diseases will now snow ball into a storm of events in the days to come until the patients are consumed.
During his post graduation Dr Fazlur Rahman did a major critical study on Allopathy i.e modern medicine to get convinced that this medicine is deadly and so it should be banned even for veterinary practice. From 1978 to 1984 he practiced this system as a general practitioner trying the medicine on the patients to make a clinical study that bore witness to his ideology on modern medicine.
In 1984 the doctor abandoned his general medical practice and switched over to homeopathy which he valued as incomparably superior to modern medicine in curing many diseases and palliating wide varieties of the presenting complaints of the patients with just a single remedy; and so simple it is that a few handy drugs are sufficient to feel very homely and safe whenever one sets out. Yet he is not satisfied with the application of the concept of homeopathy for it says, ?The remedy for each patient is different since no two individuals are the same?. But the remedies available are not 6 billion to be individualized for each of the six billion people, but just a handful which means the principle of homeopathy cannot be applied justifiably. And further it is very, very hard to choose the correct and the individualized remedy.
Two years later, in 1986 he chose and mastered acupuncture by his own self and started treating all kinds of patients with unbelievable success that made him the popular doctor in the entire Tamilnad state of 90 million populations. Seeing his success in acupuncture every medical doctor wanted to add acupuncture degree also to keep up their reputation as practitioners. Such was the signal from the patients for the greatness of acupuncture signs. From 1986 till 1999 December there was acupuncture revolution in the whole of Tamilnad state. And then it was the message for the whole world to see and the world had started accepting acupuncture as far better medical science than any other system of medicine during this period. And what Dr Fazlur Rahman proved to the whole world is that the Acupuncture is not multi needle therapy but a single needle cure, using a single acupuncture point and the cure can be effected with in seconds. He used to treat as many as 300 patients daily starting from early morning 5.30 to 10.30 a.m.
After successful career in acupuncture for 13 years, starting from 1986, by January 2000 Dr Fazlur Rahman got the wisdom of effecting a cure without ever having to touch a patient. And a new era of ? No touch cure ? came into existence in Tamilnad state due to his continuous tour of the whole state teaching and demonstrating the rarest sign, the greatest of all sciences thus far. He published several books for the Tamil population Like ? Learn Modern medicine; Learn the Myth called Modern medicine ; Learn Homeopathy ; Ladies! It is for you and Acupuncture Vs, Allopathy. His monthly magazine ?Health Time? in Tamil language simplifying the cure for various chronic diseases is a grace to the patients who are pathetically suffering at the hands of modern medicine.
And now for the first time Dr Fazlur Rahman steps out to reach the world to teach the New Sign and the finest of all disciplines, the Fool Proof Cure. It is the only possibility to lead a normal life without suffering due to medical intervention and their complications until death.
If further interested you can browse through his website
http//www.foolproofcure.net/whoami.aspx
to know not only much about Modern Medicine's Fallacies and Fraudulent
Misdemeanours , but clear reasons for cause of a disease and how to cure it
by trusting in GOD Alone . For a first timer this could be a Miracle but this has
become a part and parcel of our lives, and Iam just one among tens and
thousands from all walks of life.
Balachandran
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And now for the first time Dr Fazlur Rahman steps out to reach the world to teach the New Sign and the finest of all disciplines, the Fool Proof Cure. It is the only possibility to lead a normal life without suffering due to medical intervention and their complications until death.
Let us peruse?
i want to study accupressure,teaching by mr. dr fazlur rahman sir please reply me iam waiting for your reply sir --By srikumar
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There is no God but the only God. It is He who cures when we are ill. Not acupressure point nor is there the ability of the doctors. So I have left acupuncture and I suggest if you are a believer in God as the only Healer, then stop making you a healer too.
So the success mentioned above as
Two years later, in 1986 he chose and mastered acupuncture by his own self and started treating all kinds of patients with unbelievable success that made him the popular doctor in the entire Tamilnad state of 90 million populations. Seeing his success in acupuncture every medical doctor wanted to add acupuncture degree also to keep up their reputation as practitioners. Such was the signal from the patients for the greatness of acupuncture signs. From 1986 till 1999 December there was acupuncture revolution in the whole of Tamilnad state. And then it was the message for the whole world to see and the world had started accepting acupuncture as far better medical science than any other system of medicine during this period. And what Dr Fazlur Rahman proved to the whole world is that the Acupuncture is not multi needle therapy but a single needle cure, using a single acupuncture point and the cure can be effected with in seconds. He used to treat as many as 300 patients daily starting from early morning 5.30 to 10.30 a.m.
was explained how exactly? Instead of modestly writing that he mastered acupuncture, proved to the world and that people were cured by the millions or whatever...somehow he realised it wasn't the needle but the man himself?Dear Sir, I am vinoth, age 28, i was attacked by cml blood cancer. It was known in the early of this january 2013. Its in the chronic stage said by the doctor in hospital. I also taking imatinib tablets each one per day. But i read about this topic in online, they are saying imatinib is also a controlling method of the diseases only but not the medicine to cure the disease. And the time they calculating is about 5 years for me. My great father(periyappa) told me about you, sir pls suggest me if this disease is curable or not, if yes then what can i do. I am not very much interested in Alopathy. Pls give a solution. Thank you Sir, --By s. vazhumuni
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Make a visit here to know how to pray and by God's grace to stay healthy for life, God willing. You need to know who God is and where He is. Believe in Him and when you become a believer knowing Him well, your prayers will be answered by God. The period of our life on this earth is not with the arrogant doctors but with God. Forget and ditch these doctors who say when you would die instead of giving you a cure. Are these doctors? Then how come you become sad and would say you will live for only five years? While God is saying get rid off your disease in the Name of your God, the Healer.
Pray thus
O the Healer, I worship You
There is none but You
To bring Your words True.Your words being No cancer in You
While you keep My words with You.God's word must be in the depth and fill up your entire heart. Today you shall start a good life. Report after a week and tell me how better you feel. Throw away in the Name of the only Healer, all the medicines which cannot cure you; and the doctors who said bad words to you into the dustbin.
What if the guy isn't cured by this? guess it would be any number of reasons why the two biggest ones being...he didn't believe enough or God decided it was curtains, nothing we can do. So everything has a chance of failure. This is what drfazl does not commit to. He claims his foolproof cure has NO chance of failure or it wouldn't be um, foolproof.Hello Dr, I am 32 year old and married for 2 years. I am having severe body ache all the time (around neck,collar bone,around shoulder, arms, back and in the foot joints if I stand for long time) for past 3-4 years. I was working in an IT field for more than 10 years and I quit my job post my delivery. We are blessed with a girl baby. Due to this pain, I am not able to breath freely, not getting energy to do routine household works. I also worry that i am not able to take cae of my baby well.People around me say many reasons, it could be due to Calcium deficiency,Bone deficiency, low Hemoclobin content, muscle stiffness, weakness in the body etc., and advising me to take treatment for the same. But I have ignored those and am sincerely praying only God to cure for me and I strongly believe that he would help me to releive from this stress one day. I realised the presence of God and all his great blessings after I met you and you showed me the path to him. From then onwards, I have left everything with him and seeking his guidence only from him to lead my rest of life. I had gone through many hurdles since my childhood for food, place, clothes, education etc.,With the blessings of God, I was able to provide the basic needs of my parents and my siblings and recovered from the sufferings. Now, I want to get -rid off my problem soon and stay healthy to take care of my family and my child well. Please do share your suggestions/help/advice on your part. Thanks a lot !! --By Nasira
CategoryI have prayed for you. Let me know from this moment how you feel about all your pain and post here after a week. Allah alone is sufficient for you to cure your problems from now onwards. Pray for patience for God is with those who are patient.
May Allah Bless Us All
Here is where it starts getting more ominous. Drfazl has prayed for her! Somehow this will ease her suffering from that moment because Allah listens to drfazl. Not even you should pray to be cured by yourself...nope, you should pray for patience, and drfazl is who prayed for the cure.can i use this treatment for blood pressure, sugar and obissity? --By Dr Bhanu
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First what you shall understand is there is no diseases like all that you had mentioned. Make your mind free of all this satanic diagnoses and believe in what God says about your sufferings. Listen to your heart where God speaks against every suffering you experience. Here are the God's words of promise
"Blood pressure must Go!
Sugar must Go!
You must be healthy and active!"Believe in the same and patiently seek from God for the strengthening of your belief. God will not go back on His Promise. So will you go ahead and get rid of these doctors invented diseases?
Where are these words of promise mentioned by God? Apparently these are in Dr. Bhanu's heart , along with Roxette. Instead on relying on Dr. Bhanu to come to any conclusions based on what is in his heart or otherwise, drfazl helpfully lets him know what God's promises are. Not even maybe this rhyme might help you in your goals to reduce weight, be more active whatever...but that this is what God promises.I really wanted to read the women and children categories but somehow they are inaccessible. They're probably like his claims on another thread...
The liver is already in exhausted condition due to the non stop elimination of toxins from the intake of medicines in the form of vitamins and drugs for various continuous and intermittent illnesses since birth. The symptoms of such exhaustion of the liver are nausea, vomiting, vertigo, indigestion, muscular weakness, joint pains, heart muscle weakness, nervousness, mental weakness, convulsions, kidney failure etc to say a few. All these symptoms will be more and more aggravated as the unbeatable heavenly defense energy surges ahead in the uterus of the growing fetus. Nausea and vomiting increases as the child grows with its heavenly energy. Either the mother should stop all the medication and shun the doctors and seek forgiveness from God for associating the drugs and the doctors or what follows the nausea and vomiting is what we are going to see in the next post.
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How to save the mother and the child in the womb
From even extreme morning sickness
when the doctors advice termination of pregnancy.
So, if a person has never taken any drugs or medicine since birth and they are pregnant...there will be no morning sickness. Then again, if a person has taken drugs or medicine since birth, they can still have no morning sickness. What we know of why morning sickness occurs according to 'modern medicine'? Changing levels of hormones plus other factors etc. What drfazl is saying causes morning sickness during pregnancy? Drugs and medicine since birth having exhausted the liver during pregnancy. Which doesn't explain how some women do not have it even while taking drugs/medicine, why some women have it even if they've never seen a doctor or a medicine bottle in their life. And how morning sickness usually stops most of the times after the 3 month. According to the explanation above, apparently the baby has stopped growing with it's heavenly energy. Morning sickness is a well known symptom of pregnancy that almost everyone knew of even when they had no idea what 'modern medicine' was. How is this explained? Magic? No, really. Magic. Allegedly.Even if modern medicine is completely wrong about what causes morning sickness...the explanation given here just does not make sense. It does create a dilemma however. If a woman cannot eat a balanced diet e.g. due to her circumstances etc and takes a folic acid pill to help her with the deficit if she's trying to conceive and so on, she's a goner. Not just with her health but also with God apparently. If she doesn't take the pill because she believed drfazl when he told her the above, and her baby is born with a defect...it's somehow still modern medicine's fault just because we live in the 'modern world'. Just how on earth does this even make sense, I ask you. This would mean that no matter what drfazl's advice is, it still wouldn't matter since if it has to happen, it has to happen. It has to happen even more so in the modern world, than at any other time apparently, if we had lived a 1000 years before, then all would be hunky dory for the most part. Modern medicine hadn't been conceived with it's demonic energy back then. Neither did we have many records of birth defects or death causes or much access to reading or writing but that really doesn't count. Thar be dragons and all that.
Arm yourselves with information with evidence and try to make the best informed decision you can at any point. Even if it is reading through drfazl's 'theories' as well as others. Those that aren't literate enough to do so, and instead rely on asking people what's the best thing to do for their health etc...well, I feel for them. It is our responsibility to present others with balanced and evidenced information and hope they can make the right decision for themselves if we ever are in that position. Not to present only one side without never actually having countered the other. Emotional pleas, dramatization, exaggerations do not count, nor does scripture that is used out of context at best in order to scare people into accepting one's claims because anything considered holy has a persuasion power of +10 with many. Especially when there is talk of hellfire. Where have I seen this method before.
Drfazl from whatever I've read on his site and on here is like many faith healers abounding in various different areas. If someone says, it's a placebo effect at work, last ditch attempts so try anything and everything etc...do what you want knowing what you're doing. Not okay with people who use scripture as a weapon, and insist that their information/cure is the ONLY correct information/cure out there knowing what they know about the other sides. I understand that one needs a certain amount of confidence to make people accept their claims and the way most (never met all) faith healers work is making people believe by being 100% confident themselves. This isn't about a method or process, it is about believing a person who claims so and so. No evidence required other than other people saying he has a high success rate dudes! At the end of the day, the placebo effect involves lots of belief but a lie at the core of it.
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At the end of the day, the placebo effect involves lots of belief but a lie at the core of it.
Belief in the God inspired heartfelt wish is a core lie; absolute belief in God is absurdity to the core. Allah is hearing it. Great!
Poor patients go to the doctors with 100% placebo hype whose abracadabra jargon is nomenclatures and medical diagnoses. The medical scriptures.
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I understand that one needs a certain amount of confidence to make people accept their claims and the way most (never met all) faith healers work is making people believe by being 100% confident themselves.
No. It needs the manifest Truth to have hope in the least. I am no faith healer. I am teaching others how to have faith in God Alone. To have 100% faith in God and 0% faith in the majority human ways.
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If someone says, it's a placebo effect at work, last ditch attempts so try anything and everything etc...do what you want knowing what you're doing.
This is exactly the doctors would resort to when all their efforts fail and the patients have been ditched; they would even say to the patients "Don't lose hope; we only prescribe; God cures; so don't blame us for God having ditched you; after all we shall die one day!"
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Arm yourselves with information with evidence and try to make the best informed decision you can at any point. Even if it is reading through drfazl's 'theories' as well as others. Those that aren't literate enough to do so, and instead rely on asking people what's the best thing to do for their health etc...well, I feel for them.
A lay man is not bereft of cognition.
And theories of assumption is required only for those who mix contrary evidences and cooked up statistics to strengthen a lie. Eg. The practitioners of MM. One shall definitely feel for the gullible public who cannot understand a thing of the magical words of MM but blindly following the paraphernalia of the medical field.
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It is our responsibility to present others with balanced and evidenced information and hope they can make the right decision for themselves if we ever are in that position. Not to present only one side without never actually having countered the other.
When are the nations and W.H.O. going to incorporate all the medical systems such as ayurvedha, sidha, acupincture, naturopathy, herbal remedy, faith healing and so on - available on earth under one roof, giving equal importance to all of them in every hospital and order all the governments to follow suit. And when the government agencies shall give insurance claims for the people who choose the system of their choice for health care?
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Emotional pleas, dramatization, exaggerations do not count, nor does scripture that is used out of context at best in order to scare people into accepting one's claims because anything considered holy has a persuasion power of +10 with many. Especially when there is talk of hellfire. Where have I seen this method before.
The MM does exactly the same emotionally scaring the patient first, and then pleading with them to take treatment as early as possible and continue all through you life as though they are interested in their lives - indeed the exaggerated dramatisation.
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Belief in the God inspired heartfelt wish is a core lie; absolute belief in God is absurdity to the core. Allah is hearing it. Great!
That's what I'm going to do next. Really. Instead of trying to reason and explain in my posts, I'm going to start posting twisted little nuggets which have nothing to do with what is said, but everything to do with trying to make the other out to be a 'disbelieving atheist'.
Once again and for the record. There is a difference between belief in God and what you're saying. If that is ALL you were saying NO ONE who claims to believe would disagree.
I agree Allah is hearing. Repent.
No. It needs the manifest Truth to have hope in the least. I am no faith healer. I am teaching others how to have faith in God Alone. To have 100% faith in God and 0% faith in the majority human ways.
You can't teach them to have faith. God does that. We can show them the many different ways there are to God. This isn't about FAITH, it's about YOU. Why do you stubbornly refuse to admit that your method involves a great deal of faith, belief and trust in YOU knowing what God says...when anyone can read the responses you gave to others on your website like some kind of mufti knowing the heart of God. Were you telling the woman to pray for herself without involving yourself? No. Some in your defense would leap up and say, well other people pray for others as well. I need not remind anyone that it would have zero effect if God does not intend to heal the person. If that is the case, then instead of calling it a foolproof cure, for God's sake and your own sake...call it for what it is. "It may work or it may not like other things you can try, only God knows." Few would have issues with that.
Obviously you won't say that, as that opens up other methods to be just as effective depending on various factors. This is wrong.
This is exactly the doctors would resort to when all their efforts fail and the patients have been ditched; they would even say to the patients "Don't lose hope; we only prescribe; God cures; so don't blame us for God having ditched you; after all we shall die one day!"
What do you resort to when your 'patients' die? The time was nigh? Instead of piecemeal answering choice quotes where you can once again ignore the majority of what is said...perhaps you should take another approach. That of actually understanding what the picture is with the people who disagree with what you say rather than calling them people of the lie as in your first response to me.
A lay man is not bereft of cognition.
And theories of assumption is required only for those who mix contrary evidences and cooked up statistics to strengthen a lie. Eg. The practitioners of MM. One shall definitely feel for the gullible public who cannot understand a thing of the magical words of MM but blindly following the paraphernalia of the medical field.
and whenever I preview, another post. Fine, let's do this. One can definitely feel for the gullible in your case as well. The ones who end up believing that God must work through drfazl to the exclusion of every other method as he knows what we must do to save ourselves. You don't really need a website like you have. Just a page which says Leave everything to God. Pray to him yourselves and you will be saved. Do not use any other method, stop do not pass at Go. Or you will not pass, ever, it is known in the scripture." End of. An img of Gandalf would be fitting right below the above, preferably in the middle of the page.This isn't a radical view drfazl? You asking everyone to ditch medical science? Why only doctors? It is hypocritical to only keep it there. Why not airplanes? God never mentions those only ships. Hence that is it. Flying in them is haram and we deserve our fitting end if there is an accident because we were prideful enough to believe we knew better. Crazy.
When are the nations and W.H.O. going to incorporate all the medical systems such as ayurvedha, sidha, acupincture, naturopathy, herbal remedy, faith healing and so on - available on earth under one roof, giving equal importance to all of them in every hospital and order all the governments to follow suit. And when the government agencies shall give insurance claims for the people who choose the system of their choice for health care?
Why should that be a grievance when you don't believe any method other than prayer works anyways? What is going on here? Is this really a grievance of yours after what you've said yourself?The MM does exactly the same emotionally scaring the patient first, and then pleading with them to take treatment as early as possible and continue all through you life as though they are interested in their lives - indeed the exaggerated dramatisation.
So, you're saying you're just like what you think they do. Good to know. Fight fire with fire and all that eh.There may or may not be. But definitely there is no need to think even of MM.
Why? When have you actually proved them wrong with your evidence other than Allah will save us? -
What we know of why morning sickness occurs according to 'modern medicine'? Changing levels of hormones plus other factors etc.
Then why can' they cure it. Why is a simple morning sickness had been made to complicate to a grave life threatening situation to both the mother and the child?
Why should we believe now their magical terrorising words such as hormonal imbalance, and then the other factors as if they know all the factors while intact they know nothing?