Nearness and Guidance -> Knowledge and Wisdom = Peace and Prosperity
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Man of Faith
SalamThat was not a poem; a crystal clear assessment of her Life. Wow! For it is none but God Taught her the Words of the poem.
582 You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers to be the Jews and those who associate others with Allah ; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the true believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.
582 You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the people of reflection are the Jews and those who associate the knowledge of their books containing their own concepts and ideas. And you will find the nearest of them in affection to the people of reflection are those who call "We are humble and have no arrogance before the Wisdom, the Almighty Truth."
And with regard to the wordings of the poem of Mary Stevenson, the True Believer in my opinion that I gathered in just the two lines of her
5331 And to Allah belongs whatever is in the skies and whatever is in the earth - that He may recompense those who do evil with the penalty of what they have done and recompense those who do good with the best reward
?One night I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord. Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky. In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand. Sometimes there were two sets of footprints. Other times there were one set of footprints."
Just juxtapose the bold lines of the poem and the ayats' words. Allah was so near to her that in her dreams the angels by the leave of Allah made clear to her the ayat of Quran. One does not need Quran text to read, but spending time to reflect upon the Truth happening around one is sufficient to reveal from the Furqan, the Criterion from with in.
The two sets of foot-steps are 1. When you walk along side of God as taking as your companion; and the other when you exactly follow upon His footsteps, showing your obedience and dignifying Him, there is only One set of footstep.
fazl
Dear Drfazl,
Now I am made to Say ....Oh My Lord......The Lord has given you and educated you with Crystal Clarity. My Breathe goes in and in depth and we say now 11 In the name of Allah , the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.
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How Its Clearly explained....The Straith Path... God bless DrFazl and Man of Faith.... My Prayer to Lord " Increase the more no of Wise people among the vice people...."
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Your English is understandable, but often the word order can be a bit off or an inappropriate word slips into your sentences, or there are verbs put in the wrong tense. It is called collocation. And at one point you said you 'demand an apology' which is pretty offensive/impolite or shows you are angry. I understood you meant you wished someone to accept your apology though. Thanks to being exposed to the most absurd sentences at work I can usually decipher even the most incorrect of sentences.
Thank you for reminds me especially for the words "demand an apologize" which I always used in many posts.I never realized before if that words is very impolite.
So if it's not "demand an apologize" so what is the best word for asking apologize, bro MoF? -
Peace,
Sorry, but Jesus is Jesus, or Isa in its mother tongue, to me. Jesus was not crucified on the cross, the people were made to believe they killed him on the cross. I find this talk about Isa not being Jesus the prophet of the Gospel just a conspiracy theory to further nullify traditional religious belief, the same as some who want to erase Muhammad from history.
There is talk about Isaiha or John (Yahya) in the Bible, but I am sure they are each their individual persons.
The Gospel versions are man-made testimonies of what happened during Jesus life. While somewhat corrupted, its fundamental Message is the same as the Truth.
God bless you
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Peace Earthdom,
First of all, it is the victim who would demand an apology. It is a strong request you make when you believe you have the right to it. You cannot, without being offensive, demand someone to accept your apology.
It is the culprit, the doer of the bad action, who has to apologize to the victim and in return the victim may accept your apology. An apology cannot be demanded by the culprit. You can make an apology to someone, like say to them "please accept my apology".
When they accept your apology they (hopefully) have forgiven your for your initial offense.
God bless you
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Peace,
You need to remember, I am not of those who believe God only guides through the Quran. God is not confined to a book and as long as information follow the guidelines set out within the Quran it is righteous to follow it. I follow Quran as the only set of guidelines, and they make me choose what to follow and what to ignore in my life.
God bless you
Very much true. Quran just confirms if you are on the right track and conforms to your comforted heart by the Truth; and not to your confronted mind. Quran always delivers us to a higher plane of wisdom.
salam
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Peace,
Sorry, but Jesus is Jesus, or Isa in its mother tongue, to me. Jesus was not crucified on the cross, the people were made to believe they killed him on the cross. I find this talk about Isa not being Jesus the prophet of the Gospel just a conspiracy theory to further nullify traditional religious belief, the same as some who want to erase Muhammad from history.
There is talk about Isaiha or John (Yahya) in the Bible, but I am sure they are each their individual persons.
The Gospel versions are man-made testimonies of what happened during Jesus life. While somewhat corrupted, its fundamental Message is the same as the Truth.
God bless you
Please see prof. Bart D. Erman for more info about gospels...
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Peace mmmm,
I may do so at some point, unless I already have and forgotten I did. I know they are not always giving the correct information and I know Jesus was sometimes confused with Isaiha or John the Baptist. But I have not based my understanding that Jesus is Isa based on the Bible but from Quran.
I find it just a conspiracy that Jesus is not the Jesus as talked of in all existing literature. Although I am not impossible, I may take a look at the work of this professor you referred to.
God bless you
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Peace all.
Yes according to the Quran Isa was not crucified in the cross (salib) instead another people who likened like Isa was crucified.Some muffasir says if it's Judas Iskariot who crucified.
Some sources also says if Isa is not Yesus, so it can be say if that Yesus Christ is false Prophet and the real son of Maryam is Isa Al Masih.
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Peace Earthdom,
I still call it a big conspiracy theory. Jesus was not crucified, they were made to believe that he was crucified. But this prophet is the traditional prophet.
God bless you
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Peace Man of Faith.
I found some evidences if Jesus and Isa is different person.
I will not show you the evidences because most of my literature is in Indonesian language instead just try browsing then you may found it.
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Peace,
I will try to take a look at it, but it would certainly make the Quran contradict itself in my opinion.
God bless you
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Peace drfazl,
Thanks brother. Unfortunately I think it will take a few days until I write the next one. I need absolute concentration when I write them and I do not have that right now. Besides I am on a travel right now.
I hope you have patience to wait. These posts I treat separately from all the replies I make to other threads.
God bless you
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Peace supportpeacenotwar,
I am sorry. I should have known. Yeah, I understand what you mean.
I use English pretty much all the time, but I can always get better of course. Although all time spent with course books and other literature helps I guess. I have spent pretty much my whole life with English.
I ought not to brag, I try to see it as I am only a little better than I used to be. I am still far behind the best. Only sad thing is that my skill in my mother tongue is deteriorating since I speak less Swedish these days.
I stopped using contractions in forum posts for additional clarity, but I use them in conversation, and when I write a PM sometimes. Sometimes the written language even feels strange without them, but I am stubbornly continuing like this.
God bless you
(sorry I haven't replied to your PM yet, sister)
Peace Earthdom,
I try to express myself as clearly as possible although I tend to use formal words sometimes. You are right, little to no slang words or idioms.
Your English is understandable, but often the word order can be a bit off or an inappropriate word slips into your sentences, or there are verbs put in the wrong tense. It is called collocation. And at one point you said you 'demand an apology' which is pretty offensive/impolite or shows you are angry. I understood you meant you wished someone to accept your apology though. Thanks to being exposed to the most absurd sentences at work I can usually decipher even the most incorrect of sentences.
God bless you
Peace Man of Faith,
Replying to the PM - don't worry about it. I get it.
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Peace justamuslim,
Shifts (of angels) take turns, staying with each one of you?they are in front
of you and behind you. They stay with you, and guard you in accordance with GOD's
commands. Thus, GOD does not change the condition of any people unless they
themselves make the decision to change. If GOD wills any hardship for any people,
no force can stop it. For they have none beside Him as Lord and Master.GOD does not change a blessing He has bestowed upon any people
unless they themselves decide to change. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.When they went (to Joseph), they entered in accordance with their father's
instructions. Although this could not change anything decreed by GOD, Jacob had a
private reason for asking them to do this. For he possessed certain knowledge that
we taught him, but most people do not know.GOD may change the animosity between you and them into love.
GOD is Omnipotent. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.ONE DEEN
peace
so the highlighted areas are what I do not understand. Those ayats essentially mean that it is pointless to pray for other people (ie they are doing something wrong, or they feel a certain way about an issue and therefore behave in a certain way etc...) because God will not change their outlook or perspective or heart without them acknowledging the desire to change?? And on the same note, since everything is pre-planned, what is the point in praying for things in your life (not material things but situations) when they are already destined to happen a certain way?
(i.e someone develops terminal cancer..what is the point in praying for a recovery or healing if they are going to die anyway?Then Ive read (from spiritualists) that if you talk to and pray to the "Universe" ...aka God?... you can manifest your destiny or the outcome of a situation etc, because the universe will respond to you...? but either prayer makes physical changes in this world or it does not. Either God intervenes or He does not. And if prayer does not change anything then it is solely for the purpose of communion with God (and because He asks us to do it) right or wrong?
As Ive read in scripture, if something is not in "God's will" aka his plan, then it won't come to pass. And also that God knows what is best so when things don't happen it is because we cannot see the whole picture and it wasn't good for us anyway.
Then I've read that "well if you develop a close relationship with God then His Will will automatically become yours, and therefore things you pray for will be in alignment with what He wants for you".But no Angels or spirits every come down from the Heavens to let me know if I am on the right track. Aside from the generic blueprint to "live righetously, and give and do what you can to/for others" there are a lot of other issues in life that need responses or directive...and if you pray to God for help and don't receive it (speaking for myself, most of the time I don't receive a clear directive), then you must decide on your own accord what to do..so then what is the point in it all?
I just feel like it is a waste of time and energy to put so much hope and belief into prayer if it was never designed to be used in such a capacity. Id rather have no hope then false hope.
And if God doesn't change the condition of someone until they decide to change...then who is really doing the changing? Me or God? (i.e I'm hungry and I am sitting in a chair and I want to get some food from the kitchen...God isn't going to magically slide the chair that I am sitting on into the kitchen and open the fridge and hand me food. I have to decide to stand up and go walk into the kitchen for myself. So I am the one who made the change then no?
Does that analogy make sense or is it too simplistic?brickwall
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Peace tigress,
I am sorry you feel this way. I can see my belief is incompatible with yours since in my system God is always near and will listen to our prayers. Also I can understand it is easy to fall to this conclusion if one gives up too fast instead of continuing with steadfastness and patience. And thus God will not offer His weighty Message that He is with you.
My thread was intended to help people see that we need to build up a certain level of Nearness before we will see results in our relationship to God. Our Creator first tests our intelligence and test us in many other ways such as through patience and steadfastness. This does not say that God does not do anything prior to this, but then we have to be perceptive and keep an open mind.
As my thread tries to teach; when we have Nearness we will pretty much automatically also have Guidance. Greater Nearness may mean that God will show signs in our daily lives, often small and subtle, but the optimist will surely see them.
When we are gaining the next level, Knowledge and Wisdom, the previous part of the chain will have become strengthened, and I am sure most of those blessed with this level of awareness will see miracles pretty much on a daily basis.
Not to mention when you reach the third category, Peace and Prosperity, as then you will see a boost in provisions and those good things in life.
God bless you
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Peace tigress,
I am sorry you feel this way. I can see my belief is incompatible with yours since in my system God is always near and will listen to our prayers. Also I can understand it is easy to fall to this conclusion if one gives up too fast instead of continuing with steadfastness and patience. And thus God will not offer His weighty Message that He is with you.
My thread was intended to help people see that we need to build up a certain level of Nearness before we will see results in our relationship to God. Our Creator first tests our intelligence and test us in many other ways such as through patience and steadfastness. This does not say that God does not do anything prior to this, but then we have to be perceptive and keep an open mind.
As my thread tries to teach; when we have Nearness we will pretty much automatically also have Guidance. Greater Nearness may mean that God will show signs in our daily lives, often small and subtle, but the optimist will surely see them.
When we are gaining the next level, Knowledge and Wisdom, the previous part of the chain will have become strengthened, and I am sure most of those blessed with this level of awareness will see miracles pretty much on a daily basis.
Not to mention when you reach the third category, Peace and Prosperity, as then you will see a boost in provisions and those good things in life.
God bless you
Yes I agree with you --God does hear and see everything there is no question on that. I can't say that our beliefs are incompatible, I am just trying to know what is possible and what is not. I know patience is important but at some point there is diminishing returns. Either something is going to happen or it is not; and no amount of faith or patience is going to change something that is not in written in Gods book IMO.
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so the highlighted areas are what I do not understand. Those ayats essentially mean that it is pointless to pray for other people (ie they are doing something wrong, or they feel a certain way about an issue and therefore behave in a certain way etc...) because God will not change their outlook or perspective or heart without them acknowledging the desire to change?? And on the same note, since everything is pre-planned, what is the point in praying for things in your life (not material things but situations) when they are already destined to happen a certain way?
(i.e someone develops terminal cancer..what is the point in praying for a recovery or healing if they are going to die anyway?Peace Tigress,
Thanks for reading my post.
Please read surah 18/60-82
There are layers of reality that we are not privy to, not even Moses. I think surah
18 60/82 is a beginning in our quest to understand how prayer fits into our reality.God Bless
peace
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where? Thanks.
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No misfortune can happen on earth or in your souls but is recorded in a decree before We bring it into existence That is truly easy for Allah
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No affliction comes about but by Allah's permission; and whoever believes in Allah, He guides aright his heart; and Allah is Cognizant of all things.
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And people are naught but a single nation, so they disagree; and had not a word already gone forth from your Lord, the matter would have certainly been decided between them in respect of that concerning which they disagree.
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And they did not become divided until after knowledge had come to them out of envy among themselves; and had not a word gone forth from your Lord till an appointed term, certainly judgment would have been given between them; and those who were made to inherit the Book after them are most surely in disquieting doubt concerning it.
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