Did a person named Haman really live?
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Pharaoh said "O Chiefs! no god do I know for you but myself therefore, O Haman! light me a (kiln to bake bricks) out of clay, and build me a lofty palace, that I may mount up to the god of Moses but as far as I am concerned, I think (Moses) is a liar!" (Surah al-Qasas3
Including this verse, the name Haman is mentioned in 6 places in the Qur?an The name Haman is mentioned in the sixth and eighth verses of al-Qasas; in the 39th verse of al-Ankaboot; in the 24th and 26th verses of al-Mumenoon; and it is informed that Haman is the vizier of the Pharaoh.
Did a person named Haman really live? And did this person have any relation with the Pharaoh? What do history books inform us about this issue?
The symbols of the ancient Egyptians used to write the words are called ?hieroglyphs.? The ancient Egyptians, Hittites, Mayans and Aztecs used to use the writing of hieroglyph. The Hieroglyph is a writing which is composed of primitive pictures and signs that represent ideas about various creatures and objects. Despite the efforts of giving proper meanings to the pictures, hieroglyph is a very complex writing.
The history and language of Egypt changed completely with the invasion of the Roman Empire. The Rome developed a prohibitive attitude towards the religion of ancient Egypt because of paganism. They destroyed the temples of Egypt as well as their tablets. They prohibited the use of hieroglyph writing. After AD 300, the writing of hieroglyph was forgotten and nobody who could read this writing remained on earth. This continued till the 18th century. Since there was none who knew this language, nobody had an idea about what the Egyptian papyruses and writings said. This changed with the scripture of ?Rosetta Stone?, which was found by a French soldier who was digging a shelter for himself during the invasion of Egypt in 1799. The characteristic of this scripture which differs from other scriptures is that the same text was written both in Hieroglyph and demotic as well as in Greek. Since the language of Greek is well known, the scripture of hieroglyph was decoded by a Frenchman called Jean-Fran?oise Champollion. By this way, a great deal of knowledge about ancient Egypt and thus Pharaoh was acquired.
Through the decoding of hieroglyph, an important piece of knowledge was revealed. The name "Haman" was indeed mentioned in Egyptian inscriptions. This name was referred to in a monument in the Hof Museum in Vienna. This same inscription also indicated the close relationship between Haman and the Pharaoh.
The German scientist, Walter Wreszinskiwho analyzed the Antic Egyptian Culture and whose works were accepted as a masterpiece of Atlas stated that the name of Haman was mentioned on a monument of Hof museum and on the same monument the close relationship between Haman and the Pharaoh was mentioned.
(207. Walter Wreszinski, Aegyptische Inschriften aus dem K.K. Hof Museum in Wien, 1906, J. C. Hinrichs? sche Buchhandlung.)
And Hermann Ranke, who is also a historian expert in ancient Egypt, mentions Haman as the head of the stone quarry workers in his ?Dictionary of People in the New Kingdom?, which was prepared based on the entire collection of inscriptions.
(Hermann Ranke, Die ?gyptischen Personennamen, Verzeichnis der Namen, Verlag Von J. J. Augustin in Gl?ckstadt, Band I, 1935, Band II, 1952.)
Yes, Haman was a person that lived in Egypt during the time of Hz. Moses as it is mentioned in the Qur?an, He was very close to the Pharaoh as it is mentioned in the Qur?an and was occupied with the construction works. The verse which informs about the demand of the Pharaoh from Haman about constructing a tower is in complete coherence with this archeological information.
Now we want to ask the following question the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did not know how to read and write; he did not read or write a single line. However, a person who lived in ancient Egypt and was the vizier of the Pharaoh is mentioned in the Quran by his name. This mentioning is in complete coherence with the historical finding made 200 years ago. History tells us about a person called Haman living in the same period as the Pharaoh and that he was the vizier of the Pharaoh and was occupied with construction works.
How can it be explained that the Quran miraculously mentions some information that could not be known at the period when it was sent down and that the same information is mentioned in the ancient Egyptian scriptures? It can be explained only as follows The Quran was sent down by Allah, who knows what is unknown and unseen. It is His book and word.
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Peace ephraim7,
The Quran was sent down by Allah, who knows what is unknown and unseen. It is His book and word.
Agreed
This is retrieved from Quran corpus
Quranic Concept
HamanTranslation Haman
Transliteration hmn
Category Historic PersonMore importantly hmn is a name of a person in Al Quran.
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Did a person named Haman really live? And did this person have any relation with the Pharaoh? What do history books inform us about this issue?
believers, the Qur'an is the prove of what is true on the history books, and not the history books prove of what it is in Holy Qur'an, don't be of the ignorant.
404 NONE BUT THOSE who are bent on denying the truth would call God's messages in question. But let it not deceive thee that they seem to be able to do as they please on earth (405) to the truth gave the lie, before their time, the people of Noah and, after them, all those who were leagued together ;2 and each of those communities schemed against the apostle sent unto them,3 aiming to lay hands on him; and they contended [against his message) with fallacious arguments, so as to render void the truth thereby but then I took them to task - and how awesome was My retribution!
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Salaam
to complete the haman hierogliphic miracle, archeologist have to find
- Hierogliphic miracle for word pharaon
- Hierogliphic miracle for word Moses
- Hierogliphic miracle for word hebrew
- Hierogliphic miracle for word bani israel
of course, other archeological miracles for existence of hebrews in egypt would be very appreciated.
Now, arabic is a rrot language
Faraoun is from word faraa
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.so fraa mean the highness. form firaoun is a litte pejorative and mean little highness
let's go to Haman
root si hmn( ة
.so haman can mean who follow the firaoun by fear. Simply that.
Of course, we know for Quran that wife of firaoun was a moomina and that one of his notable was a moomin.
We can then deduce that monotheism was existing in firaoun court and not only in bani israel.
So we have also to find monotheisme in "old egypt".Peace
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believers, the Qur'an is the prove of what is true on the history books, and not the history books prove of what it is in Holy Qur'an, don't be of the ignorant.
Peace wrkmmn.
Your statement is true, but cannot implemented in some situations.
First the Quran is a Scripture and not a History book.The proof is stories of the Nabi, Bani Israel etc in the Quran didn't complete, instead more complete in the Bible.If The history or anykind of news can be considered as complete, then it must have provide the complete of 5W+1H categories
5W+1H=Who, What, Where, When, Why and How.
Because Quran is not the Historical Book, so that's why The Quran never provide the full stories of the Nabi instead only picking little parts of stories, so we can take the hikmah from that.
(see 362, 7176, 11120, 12111 etc)
All that verses clearly said if the purpose of the stories in the Quran is for guidance in faith and not as Historical lesson.
More important is, you also wrote "and not the history books prove of what it is in Holy Qur'an, don't be of the ignorant."
Unfortunately, the Quran is not type of a Book which suddenly fell from the sky in front of your face without any historical track.I mean to proofing the story of revelations of the Quran, we need some historical track.
Salaam
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Greetings Earthdom,
I agree with much of what you said, however my reply to Wrkmmn, would be if use the line of thinking history proves the Quran, could same argument be made that history could refute the Quran? Meaning if one historical error could be found does that than negate the Quran?
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peace ephraim
could same argument be made that history could refute the Quran? Meaning if one historical error could be found does that than negate the Quran?
historical evidence or not historical evidence, neither proves, nor disproves/refutes anything from the holy Qur'an. Everything in the Holy Qur'an is true independently of historical evidence, except for unbelievers.
(1997) and only to this end have We made this easy to understand, in thine own tongue, so that thou might convey thereby a glad tiding to the Godconscious, and warn thereby those who are given to contention (199 for, how many a generation 82 have We destroyed before their time - canst thou perceive any one of them
, or hear any whisper of them?
2536 And We said, "Go both of you to the people who have denied Our signs." Then We destroyed them with destruction.So there could be evidence or not (in the case of those completely destroyed as if they had never existed). Arguments like this one only increase the faith of believers, and the evidence in their hands in order to declare somebody as Kufar(unbeliever).
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peace earthdom
Because Quran is not the Historical Book, so that's why The Quran never provide the full stories of the Nabi instead only picking little parts of stories, so we can take the hikmah from that.(see 362, 7176, 11120, 12111 etc)
maybe you did not read the verses you posted
12111There was certainly in their stories a lesson for those of understanding. Never was the Qur'an a narration invented, but a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of all things and guidance and mercy for a people who believe.before it (means history), and all things (means all things) includimg the history related to the stories narrated in the Holy Qur'an.
may God increase our wisdom.
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peace earthdom
maybe you did not read the verses you posted
12111There was certainly in their stories a lesson for those of understanding. Never was the Qur'an a narration invented, but a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of all things and guidance and mercy for a people who believe.before it (means history), and all things (means all things) includimg the history related to the stories narrated in the Holy Qur'an.
may God increase our wisdom.
Sorry to butt in, but how I don't understand how you reached that conclusion regarding that line? Keeping in mind "There was certainly in their stories a lesson for those of understanding.", the fact that it's at the end of Sura 12 and the lines leading up to 12111, doesn't "of all things" refer to the messages/work of the earlier messengers/prophets?
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Peace
there is no point in arguing about this, if anybody wants to believe that he needs man made history books, which are full of conjecture, to prove that God the all Knowing is telling the truth, is OK. to you your belief and to me my belief. I don't have the time to look for more evidence. in the end, only God makes the blind see. All I can do is warn you that it is not for A Believer to question the veracity in the narratives contained in the book of God. We know nothing, and He the Almighty knows our past, present, and future.
488What is with you two groups concerning the hypocrites, while Allah has made them fall back for what they earned. Do you wish to guide those whom Allah has sent astray? And he whom Allah sends astray - never will you find for him a way .
may God increase our wisdom.