***ASTRAL PROJECTION***
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Welcome All!
I read a topic on here by Lote Tree about meditation and how its connected to Salat.
The reason why I decided to make this topic is because I believe Atral Projection to be like meditation but its more deeper and relaxing as once you reached that PEACE state and silenced your mind you can leave your body and travel to the astral worlds and beyond.
The techniques used to do that are done after you have done meditation to reach that PEACE state. I'm glad that topic was made as it gives me a chance now to practice Astral Projection like I used to.
Any comments on this??
If you want to know more this forum and website is the best one on it
http//www.astralsociety.com/as/Forum/
http//www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php
PEACE
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SaLaM 2Pac
Man you beat me to this topic Lolllllll. I was just thinking of making this topic. You are right, astral projection gives the person a chance to achieve a peace with God which is not possible in the "earthly" life. I have been doing it for sometime now, and it scares me every single time. I didnt beleive in this. But after experiancing what i did, i simply cant deny this. All i will say is, if any of you attempts it, it will be ok to be frightened and it will be ok if you dont achieve it the first time. It can take weeks and even months.
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Nice of you to be back Jaxal bro!!
Astral Projection did happen to me once or few times but by accident and I must say its the most beautiful experience I've ever had words cannot describe and the colours or things you see is so so real and more beautiful than what you see in this world.
Can you describe what technique you used to project and what you came across in your experience.
It's interesting how God says when you sleep you die and its upto him which souls he releases back to the body. So basically astral projection is dying but having conscious awareness and control of where you direct your soul. People have travelled to stars, black holes and beyond this universe its simply amazing.
PEACE
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SaLaM 2Pac
Yes it is indeed nice to be back bro
I use the technique where i go into my dream conciously. Basically i keep myself aware while my body sleeps. So after I have relaxed, i keep saying, I am awake 1, i am awake 2, i am awake 3... so on until i enter the hypnogognic state of mind. And my first experiance was rather disturbing. looooooooool. I dont want you to be discourage but i think, this is what i think about a lot so it wasnt supperising it came to me.
I saw i was in hell. And my God, i saw some horrible things. I saw men and women before me, whose skin was being eaten away. Then their flesh, then their bones until there was nothing left. I was watching this happen to a man was right next to me and he was in so much pain and screaming and i couldnt do anything . There was fire everywhere. It was so hot the skin was melting of people. I saw people melt like wax. And i thought to myself this cant be real. I MUST be dreaming. Thats when i got my concious back. Suddenly, it felt real 100 times more. It was a horrifing experiance. Once i got my concious, i got of it and came to the beach in Abu dhabi. It was raining on the beach. Then i lost my concious again.
And not long ago i thought it was all fictional. Not anymore. Im a hard skeptic and i turn over every stone before i beleive it myself. And im telling you, anyone who says Astral Projection is fake, then its a proven fact that they havent tried it or they are too lazy to try it P .
I hope one day i achieve full control. Only then i will be able to make my peace with god, which i cant in this physical plane. I also hope, more people on this forum do this. But im not sure if that is going to be happening. But i do hope it happens
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^^Thanks for sharing that. Unfortunately it looks like you had a bad experience. I think from my knowledge you were having a lucid dream(controlled dream where you know your dreaming) and then shifted into the astral plane hence ending up in Abu Dhabi beach(lucky guy lol). Unfortunately with me I haven't even left my house YET but saw out of my door and saw the most beautiful flowers ever and the colours were amazing.
If anyone is interested in trying the astral projection then post a reply and i'll run through a list of techniques you can try yourself to exit your body.
PEACE
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SaLaM 2pac
Try this. Dont sleep for a whole day. Do this on the weekened when u dont have college or uni. Dont sleep on the friday. Then on saturday night, use the technique i used. Make sure u dont fall alseep otherwise it will be all for nothing. You will have more chance of achieving it becoz you body will try hard to fall alseep and u can use this to ur advantage.
Let me know how this goes.
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SaLaM naxus
One piece of advice naxus, dont expect anything to happen the first night. And becoz of that, dont give up. And dont sleep for atleast 20 hours. This is not neccessary, but most people got bored and gave up. Becoz sleep is a crucial part of this, it will be to ur advantage if ur body is trying very hard to sleep, while u stay awake. But be sure of one thing. When this DOES happen, the first night, you will be frightened loooooool.. and that is normal. Just allow ur body to get used to it
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You don't have to put your body through not sleeping for a day at all. Thats the hardest way to do it and risky as it will effect your health in the long run.
There's no one method for exiting to tell you the truth. ONE of the methods I will provide;
1)Lie down on your back. Close your eyes relax yourself. You will try to make your body asleep but keep your mind awale. You will notice your mind chattering away i.e bills to pay, women & money etc.
2)With alot of patience you can stop that nattering in your brain which some people refer to as PEACE where its complete silence and nothing but PEACE. This is where your in a TRANCE stage I believe.
3)Now to the hard part. Your going to try to exit your body. One of the best and tested techniques is the ROPE technique. You imagine a rope dangling from the ceiling which your going to hold onto and climg out your body. You got to feel the rope NOT with your physical hands but your astral hands. Feel the texture and thickness of it. Climb your way out and pop your in the astral world looking at yourself lying in the bed. If you cannot see you simply ask for astral eyes and you will see.
Basically that is in a basic term on how to do it. The key is and the hardest part is the relaxation part. Many people go for the exit techniques without relaxing. You will feel the VIBRATIONS when your deeply RELAXED. Counting while breathing helps to stop the mind nattering.
Please visit the astral pulse forum link I provided above for more details explanations on exiting and about all of this as its amazing. Let me know how you get it on I would love for the skeptics to try this or anyone.
PEACE
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Peace be upon you.
I am glad that I've discovered this again - just God telling me to go back to what I used to do.
I used to have OOBE's (Out Of Body Experience) conciously in order to 'get away' or find a better solution to a problem, or see a loved one, communicate. I havent done it in some time though.
A brilliant book is one by Robert Bruce, NEW Enery Ways. He has a website called
http//www.astraldynamics.com/
There are some amazing techniques. It can be quite a slow process to strengthen your process, but it is well worth it.
I would be glad to hear any techniques that you have found useful. One important thing to remember which helps for meditating and having an OOBE is the two types of thinkers - those that think in pictures and those that dont. Pictorial thinkers can easily experience OOBE's - non-pictorials NEED to try Bruce's methods - they are very interesting.
Bye
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SaLaM 2Pac and darcus
I was talking about having astral projetion using lucid dreaming. It is when ur near ur sleep stage that the mind can either slip into lucid dreaming or go into astral projection. For me personally, staying awake and then trying this has worked tremendously. I believe, that the brain is the enemy here. The brain doesnt wants us to experiance either AStral projection nor lucid dreaming. So the only way to beat it is by burning it out so that it has no choice to sleep. Its only then we can take advantage of this and achiceve whatever it is we are trying to achieve. This is completely my own opinion.
The other problem is, i have read many many conflicting data on both AP and LD. So i guess, its down to the person to see what methods work best for him/her.
Dracus, what techniques did u use to achieve OOBE's?
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Peace Jaxal,
Its only then we can take advantage of this and achiceve whatever it is we are trying to achieve. This is completely my own opinion.
And what that might be? Would like to know that what can one do or accomplish by AP and LD?
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SaLaM Danish
I think that is a personel opinion. What can be done or accomplished by AP or LD. Personally for me, it does a lot of things. I will choose to keep this to myself. But how about this. This is something that can be done. And everyone and anyone can do it. Dont you want to know how it feels to have full control of ur dream? To actually make ur biggest and wildest and totally impossible fantasy come true? Loooooooooooooolllllllllllll . I take it you havent had any experiance with it. But when you DO experiance it. You wont regret it.
But as for your question, some people choose it for pleasure, some choose it for knowledge. Some choose it becoz they CAN and some try it for the heck of it )
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Welcome All!
I read a topic on here by Lote Tree about meditation and how its connected to Salat.The reason why I decided to make this topic is because I believe Atral Projection to be like meditation but its more deeper and relaxing as once you reached that PEACE state and silenced your mind you can leave your body and travel to the astral worlds and beyond.
The techniques used to do that are done after you have done meditation to reach that PEACE state. I'm glad that topic was made as it gives me a chance now to practice Astral Projection like I used to.
Any comments on this??
Hello 2pac, All,
Silencing the mind is indeed the one of the goal of Meditation. If you can silence your thoughts then you have already become a practioned Meditator. This is the first stage. But once you have mastered meditation then you can experience other deeper Meditative States during your meditation sessions.
My advise to you all is that "aim" to master carefully each stage of meditation as you go along, don't rush it. And perhaps it is not also wise to discuss exact details of your meditation experiences with others as this will become a hindrance later on, as the desire to achieve those meditative states becomes a barrier to progressing further in your meditations. Meditations can lead to "Astral Projections" and "out-of-body" experiences but I say to you all aim not to achieve these things but let yourself experience them as they come along. The more you meditate the better you become in controlling in what you experience and how progress in your meditations sessions. Meditations should not become a escapist fantasy rather a way to develop your spirituality towards that Transcendent reality that many have called "God", "Nirvana", "Brahman-Atman and Tao etc..."
Regards,
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Salaam all,
This sounds very cool and I think I will try Insha Allah.
Peace
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SaLaM My Lovely Big Sis
Some points for you to keep in mind.
1] You will be scared the first time. Nearly everyone is frightened the first time. As was i.
2] Dont try to WANT it too much otherwise you wont experiance it and you will get tired.
3] Each person works well with different technique. Try to find out ur technique. Its usually by trial and error
4] When you finally experiance it, dont forget to come to London and we can go to KFC Looooooooooolllllllllll http//www.geocities.com/bigjaxal/big-smile.gif -
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^^ Salaam Bro!
From what I understand and this is from research from going on www.astralpulse.com is you can go into Astral Projection from Lucid Dreaming so they're 2 different things totally.
Anyone had any experiences yet so far??Drop your feedback
PEACE