The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model: The Remarkable Program Of The Words.

drfazl

Respected brother fazl

salaam+

Why do you sermonize all the time and never get to the real point of the thread. It will be so much easier, do you not think so? You raised so many points that it will take such a long time to give answer to all of them justly.

I too do not judge negatively your good intentions in any way. I want to get on with real tangible stuff but you are blocking the way brother. What must I say about your statements that contain much truth but do not address the real issue of the thread.

You also did not answer my question. Are you saying then that the physical Qur'aan contain no words?

+salaam
al-amiyr

Bro Amiyr,
Salam

Sermon is fit for priesthood and it does not befit a believer. When it comes to Quran unless you are sure by way of rehearsal or in guided-righteousness into the future by the moment verifying and testifying the message in real time, it is construed the message of Quran is not completed on you and one cannot recite Quran to others. So it is not a sermon. It is Communication of what I found as Truth in real time.

I have not answered your question because Quran is soulful wisdom communicating to mind; and not a physical language with mindlessness. Without the power of the mind conducting you, physical activity is incoherent and in-coordinated. Quran cannot be reduced to this state of affairs. Do not make wisdom and knowledge equals.

It is not blocking your way brother, but broadening and expanding the heart with mindfulness.

fazl

al-amiyr

Bro Amiyr,
Salam

Sermon is fit for priesthood and it does not befit a believer. When it comes to Quran unless you are sure by way of rehearsal or in guided-righteousness into the future by the moment verifying and testifying the message in real time, it is construed the message of Quran is not completed on you and one cannot recite Quran to others. So it is not a sermon. It is Communication of what I found as Truth in real time.

I have not answered your question because Quran is soulful wisdom communicating to mind; and not a physical language with mindlessness. Without the power of the mind conducting you, physical activity is incoherent and in-coordinated. Quran cannot be reduced to this state of affairs. Do not make wisdom and knowledge equals.

It is not blocking your way brother, but broadening and expanding the heart with mindfulness.

fazl

salaam+ respected brother fazl

Beautifully said! But I am presenting the physical Qur'aan in the physical world for a physical people. We appear to be in different dimensions. I take note of all your understandings. It only increases my knowledge about human perceptions about how they see things.

You can share as much of your thoughts as you wish. I am a good listener.

+salaam
al-amiyr

drfazl

salaam+ respected brother fazl

Beautifully said! But I am presenting the physical Qur'aan in the physical world for a physical people. We appear to be in different dimensions. I take note of all your understandings. It only increases my knowledge about human perceptions about how they see things.

You can share as much of your thoughts as you wish. I am a good listener.

+salaam
al-amiyr

Bro Amiyr
Salam

This physical world is nothing but pure sport, glamour and vanity; the physical people follow the illusion; and could there be a physical Quran catering to their illusion? That too a physical Quran from Allah? I definitely need to have a look at the ayat if you could show me.

Every soul shall taste of death, and you shall only be paid fully your reward on the resurrection day; then whoever is removed far away from the fire and is made to enter the garden he indeed has attained the object; and the life of this physical world is nothing but a provision of vanities.

fazl

raspberry_red

Your answers are correct! Now for the next experiment. You write ten verbs of the past tense and I will write ten verbs of the past tense. You do the same format as above and I will do the same. Then we put the twenty verbs together and see the results. Good luck!

drank = xx-xx
wrote = xx-x-
dig = x-x
phoned = xx-x-x
watched = x-xxx-x
led = x-x
apologized = -x-x-x-x-x
asked = -xx-x
got = x-x
wore = x-x-

al-amiyr

Your answers are correct! Now for the next experiment. You write ten verbs of the past tense and I will write ten verbs of the past tense. You do the same format as above and I will do the same. Then we put the twenty verbs together and see the results. Good luck!

drank = xx-xx
wrote = xx-x-
dig = x-x
phoned = xx-x-x
watched = x-xxx-x
led = x-x
apologized = -x-x-x-x-x
asked = -xx-x
got = x-x
wore = x-x-

Here are my ten English verbs

was = x-x
looked = x--x-x
understood = -xx-xxx--x
misrepresented = x-xx-xx-x-xx-x
allowed = -xx-x-x
thought = xx--xxx
experimented = -xx-x-x-xx-x
0 sang =x-xx
grew = xx-x
completed =x-xxx-x-x

Next! Take your list of ten words and my list of ten words (only those with x and -) and put them together from smallest to largest. Start with the dash ( - ) ones first. I will do the same and then let us compare.

raspberry_red

Here are my ten English verbs

was = x-x
looked = x--x-x
understood = -xx-xxx--x
misrepresented = x-xx-xx-x-xx-x
allowed = -xx-x-x
thought = xx--xxx
experimented = -xx-x-x-xx-x
0 sang =x-xx
grew = xx-x
completed =x-xxx-x-x

Next! Take your list of ten words and my list of ten words (only those with x and -) and put them together from smallest to largest. Start with the dash ( - ) ones first. I will do the same and then let us compare.

-xx-x
-xx-x-x
-x-x-x-x-x
-xx-xxx--x
-xx-x-x-xx-x
x-x
x-x
x-x
x-x
xx-x
x-xx
x-x-
xx-x-
xx-xx
x--x-x
xx-x-x
x-xxx-x
xx--xxx
x-xxx-x-x
x-xx-xx-x-xx-x

jhonsonmustafa

Bro Amiyr
Salam

This physical world is nothing but pure sport, glamour and vanity; the physical people follow the illusion; and could there be a physical Quran catering to their illusion? That too a physical Quran from Allah? I definitely need to have a look at the ayat if you could show me.

Every soul shall taste of death, and you shall only be paid fully your reward on the resurrection day; then whoever is removed far away from the fire and is made to enter the garden he indeed has attained the object; and the life of this physical world is nothing but a provision of vanities.

fazl

Yesterday I happened to read 4038 & 4039. When king Feron was so strong with his army and men, a believer and one of the relatives
of king Feron stand up and tell "O my people, this worldly life is only enjoyment, and indeed, the Hereafter - that is the home of settlement."
Quran gives Solace to our MIND. In fact when believers struggle for livelihood in this Physical World, By Reading QURAM and GODs commitment towards the Believers gives Solace and New hope every day.

Thanks for the Post Drfazl. May Allah guide and increase our Sirathul Mustaqeen.

al-amiyr

Yesterday I happened to read 4038 & 4039. When king Feron was so strong with his army and men, a believer and one of the relatives
of king Feron stand up and tell "O my people, this worldly life is only enjoyment, and indeed, the Hereafter - that is the home of settlement."
Quran gives Solace to our MIND. In fact when believers struggle for livelihood in this Physical World, By Reading QURAM and GODs commitment towards the Believers gives Solace and New hope every day.

Thanks for the Post Drfazl. May Allah guide and increase our Sirathul Mustaqeen.

salaam+ respected jhonsonmustafa

Thank you for your post. Is it possible that you can make another thread to discuss this interesting subject you have discussed. This is a thread that deals with the physical words of the Qur'aan and I and those who are interested in it would like to keep it here like that. A little off topic comment here and there is no problem but it could cause major diversions with the result that this thread could be closed by the moderators who keep the law and order.

I was banned for seven days for threadizing imitated behaviour and I have since then improved my ways. I hope that you will be party to this continued reformation of mine where I have turned the other cheek as recommended in the Gospel of Jesus Christ (D+) inshaa ALLAAH
I thank you very much

+salaam

al-amiyr

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

Your answers are correct! Now for the next experiment. You write ten verbs of the past tense and I will write ten verbs of the past tense. You do the same format as above and I will do the same. Then we put the twenty verbs together and see the results. Good luck!

-xx-x
-xx-x-x
-xx-xxx--x
-x-x-x-x-x
-xx-x-x-xx-x
x-x
x-x
x-x
x-x
x-xx
xx-x
x-x-
xx-xx
xx-x-
xx-x-x
x--x-x
x-xxx-x
xx--xxx
x-xxx-x-x
x-xx-xx-x-xx-x

Here is my list.

asked................= -xx-x
allowed.............= -xx-x-x
apologized.........= -x-x-x-x-x
understood........= -xx-xxx--x
experimented....= -xx-x-x-xx-x
was..................= x-x
dug...................= x-x
led...................= x-x
got...................= x-x
sang.................= x-xx
wore.................= x-x-
grew.................= xx-x
drank................= xx-xx
wrote................= xx-x-
looked...............= x--x-x
phoned..............= xx-x-x
watched.............= x-xxx-x
thought..............= xx--xxx
completed..........= x-xxx-x-x
misrepresented...= x-xx-xx-x-xx-x

Do you have any thoughts about the above? Does it look as if there is an order in the patterns of the verbs or does it look random?

raspberry_red

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

Here is my list.

asked................= -xx-x
allowed.............= -xx-x-x
apologized.........= -x-x-x-x-x
understood........= -xx-xxx--x
experimented....= -xx-x-x-xx-x
was..................= x-x
dig...................= x-x
led...................= x-x
got...................= x-x
sang.................= x-xx
wore.................= x-x-
grew.................= xx-x
drank................= xx-xx
wrote................= xx-x-
looked...............= x--x-x
phoned..............= xx-x-x
watched.............= x-xxx-x
thought..............= xx--xxx
completed..........= x-xxx-x-x
misrepresented...= x-xx-xx-x-xx-x

Do you have any thoughts about the above? Does it look as if there is an order in the patterns of the verbs or does it look random?

I think it looks rather random, I don't see any order in this list.

al-amiyr

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

Here is my list.

asked................= -xx-x
allowed.............= -xx-x-x
apologized.........= -x-x-x-x-x
understood........= -xx-xxx--x
experimented....= -xx-x-x-xx-x
was..................= x-x
dug...................= x-x
led...................= x-x
got...................= x-x
sang.................= x-xx
wore.................= x-x-
grew.................= xx-x
drank................= xx-xx
wrote................= xx-x-
looked...............= x--x-x
phoned..............= xx-x-x
watched.............= x-xxx-x
thought..............= xx--xxx
completed..........= x-xxx-x-x
misrepresented...= x-xx-xx-x-xx-x

Do you have any thoughts about the above? Does it look as if there is an order in the patterns of the verbs or does it look random?

I think it looks rather random, I don't see any order in this list.

Is there anything else you can remark about the English language past tense verbs? Could you elaborate a little more about what is meant by rather random?

raspberry_red

Is there anything else you can remark about the English language past tense verbs? Could you elaborate a little more about what is meant by rather random?

I can say that the verbs in English contain letters that are written but not pronounced, also there are "packages" of x that follow each other with some - between the x i.e. English past tense verbs got packages of consonants and only osme vowels.

al-amiyr

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

A question!
Do you know anything about Arabic verbs? If you do, can you give three examples of Arabic verbs?

raspberry_red

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

A question!
Do you know anything about Arabic verbs? If you do, can you give three examples of Arabic verbs?

Ok. For now I don't know about Arabic verbs, I only saw the verbs you explained through the Qur'aan Cosmological Model articles, for example
rataqa
fataqa
Tawaa

al-amiyr

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

A question!
Do you know anything about Arabic verbs? If you do, can you give three examples of Arabic verbs?

Ok. For now I don't know about Arabic verbs, I only saw the verbs you explained through the Qur'aan Cosmological Model articles, for example
rataqa
fataqa
Tawaa

+salaam Raspberry Red

Here is a list of ten triliteral Arabic verbs of the past tense. You will do well if you could memorize them.

kataba = he wrote
qara'a = he read
The ' is also a consonant pronounced almost like a but softly by closing the throat a little
darasa = he studied
dhakara = he remembered
The dh is one consonant pronounced like th of then and not the th of thin

5)Tarafa = he winked (the eye)
There are two t in Arabic t () and T ( )
t = tip of tongue and
T = tongue flat against the roof of the mouth

fataha = he opened
The small h is not like the English h.
The small h is the breath that comes from the throat. Say f (not the name eff but just the sound fff by blowing the air through your lips.
As you are saying fff open the mouth and notice that the sound now comes from the throat.
This sound is the h ( ) in Arabic. We use the capital H for the Arabic aych ( ).
There are also two ways of writing the aych in Arabic.
qatala = he killed
q (&#1602
Put your finger against the roof of your mouth (hard palate). Is it hard or soft ?
Put your finger further back against the roof of the mouth (velar). Is it soft or hard ?
To pronounce the q , put the back of your tongue against the velar.

8 ) katala = he (or it) became a compact mass.
Read 7 above. To pronounce the k put the tongue against the roof (hard palate).

dhaHaba = he went
Remember the dh (4) and the the H (6) letter rules above.
kamala = he (or it) became whole, complete, perfect.

If you want to say 'she' and the verb, you just add a t to the root. For example kataba = he wrote, katabat = she wrote.

Your task
Change the consonants into x and the vowels into -
Remember dh is one consonant in Arabic, so it should just be one x.
Do the same format as we did yesterday. We are getting nearer to the objective of this lesson. I will wait for your reply inshaa ALLAAH.

raspberry_red

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

+salaam Raspberry Red

Here is a list of ten triliteral Arabic verbs of the past tense. You will do well if you could memorize them.

kataba = he wrote
qara'a = he read
The ' is also a consonant pronounced almost like a but softly by closing the throat a little
darasa = he studied
dhakara = he remembered
The dh is one consonant pronounced like th of then and not the th of thin

5)Tarafa = he winked (the eye)
There are two t in Arabic t () and T ( )
t = tip of tongue and
T = tongue flat against the roof of the mouth

fataha = he opened
The small h is not like the English h.
The small h is the breath that comes from the throat. Say f (not the name eff but just the sound fff by blowing the air through your lips.
As you are saying fff open the mouth and notice that the sound now comes from the throat.
This sound is the h ( ) in Arabic. We use the capital H for the Arabic aych ( ).
There are also two ways of writing the aych in Arabic.
qatala = he killed
q (&#1602
Put your finger against the roof of your mouth (hard palate). Is it hard or soft ?
Put your finger further back against the roof of the mouth (velar). Is it soft or hard ?
To pronounce the q , put the back of your tongue against the velar.

8 ) katala = he (or it) became a compact mass.
Read 7 above. To pronounce the k put the tongue against the roof (hard palate).

dhaHaba = he went
Remember the dh (4) and the the H (6) letter rules above.
kamala = he (or it) became whole, complete, perfect.

If you want to say 'she' and the verb, you just add a t to the root. For example kataba = he wrote, katabat = she wrote.

Your task
Change the consonants into x and the vowels into -
Remember dh is one consonant in Arabic, so it should just be one x.
Do the same format as we did yesterday. We are getting nearer to the objective of this lesson. I will wait for your reply inshaa ALLAAH.

Salaam al-amiyr,

Thank you very much for your reply, I took notice of those 10 verbs above and try to memorize them.
Here is my answer where I replaced the consonants with x and vowels with -

kataba = x-x-x-
qara'a = x-x-x-
darasa = x-x-x-
dhakara = x-x-x-
Tarafa = x-x-x-
fataha = x-x-x-
qatala = x-x-x-
8 ) katala = x-x-x-
dhaHaba = x-x-x-
kamala = x-x-x-

al-amiyr

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

Salaam al-amiyr,

Thank you very much for your reply, I took notice of those 10 verbs above and try to memorize them.
Here is my answer where I replaced the consonants with x and vowels with -

kataba = x-x-x-
qara'a = x-x-x-
darasa = x-x-x-
dhakara = x-x-x-
Tarafa = x-x-x-
fataha = x-x-x-
qatala = x-x-x-
8 ) katala = x-x-x-
dhaHaba = x-x-x-
kamala = x-x-x-

Excellent and a quick reply! Did you observe anything in the pattern of those verbs?

raspberry_red

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Raspberry Red
The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Interactive Lessons.

In this section to make a comparison between English and Arabic past tense verbal roots to see which language contains the greatest degree of orderliness or randomness in the words of action.

Excellent and a quick reply! Did you observe anything in the pattern of those verbs?

Thank you very much, you also explain very well, so you make it very easy for me.
Yes, I observe a perfect regularity in the alternance of the consonants and the vowels like consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel

muslims

(1)- LaaLa
(2)- LaLLa
(3)- LaLaa
(4)- LaLaLa
(5)- LaLLaLa

Remember first x on top = b, second = s, third = m, and forth = l. All eXes below will correspond with the letter place above.

Fill in your answers as we did above with the L

(1)-
(2)-
(3)-
(4)-
(5)-

+salaam al-amiyr,

Thank you and I'll try to figure out this pattern.

(1)- LaaLa
(2)- LaLLa
(3)- LaLaa
(4)- LaLaLa
(5)- LaLLaLa

Remember first L on

top = B
second = S
third = M
and forth = L

1 2
(1)- BaaSa <- Consonant + Consonant <- (1) XaaXa
-- - long vowel short vowel
1 2
(2)- BaSSa <- Consonant + Double Consonant <- (2) XaXXa

- short vowel short vowel
  1 2
  (3)- BaSaa <- Consonant + Consonant <- (3) XaXaa
-- short vowel long vowel
1 2 3
(4)- BaSaMa <- Consonant + Consonant + Consonant <- (4) XaXaXa
- - short vowel short vowel short vowel
    1 2 3 4
    (5)- BaSMaLa <- Consonant + Consonant + Consonant+ Consonant <- (5) XaXXaXa
' - - short vowel separated short vowel short vowel

Peace brother.

al-amiyr

+salaam al-amiyr,

Thank you and I'll try to figure out this pattern.

(1)- LaaLa
(2)- LaLLa
(3)- LaLaa
(4)- LaLaLa
(5)- LaLLaLa

Remember first L on

top = B
second = S
third = M
and forth = L

1 2
(1)- BaaSa <- Consonant + Consonant <- (1) XaaXa
-- - long vowel short vowel
1 2
(2)- BaSSa <- Consonant + Double Consonant <- (2) XaXXa

- short vowel short vowel
  1 2
  (3)- BaSaa <- Consonant + Consonant <- (3) XaXaa
-- short vowel long vowel
1 2 3
(4)- BaSaMa <- Consonant + Consonant + Consonant <- (4) XaXaXa
- - short vowel short vowel short vowel
    1 2 3 4
    (5)- BaSMaLa <- Consonant + Consonant + Consonant+ Consonant <- (5) XaXXaXa
' - - short vowel separated short vowel short vowel

Peace brother.

+salaam brother muslims

You are excellent! One of the best I 'met' so far and the first (with Raspberry Red) who took up this investigation on this forum to reach this point so quickly. You are in accordance with your username- he who is or who will be in all the levels of perfection in serving the One true God.

You are only a few steps away from understanding the entire Qur'aan lexicographical Model of about a thousand pages that generates a library of almost a million books and easily stored in the brain.

What you have produced above are all verbs of the past tense first person masculine singular = He --->? They are the roots of the Arabic language and to be able to look up a word in the Arabic dictionary one must know how the Arabic roots work.

Here are the meanings of the verbs. Lane's Lexicon except (3) which is from Steingass Arabic - English Dictionary.

(1) baasa = he kissed

(2) bassa = he broke; crumbled; bruised; (said of wheat +)

(3) basaa = he became familiar or intimate

(4) basama = he smiled

(5) basmala = he said bismillaaHi-r-rahmaani-r-rahiym( In the name of ALLAAH-the All Merciful- the Most Merciful)

Read the following!

Post 2

Can you imagine this- that the language with the largest vocabulary in the world (probably not excluding English as well) can be reduced to a singular program of five simple verbal patterns that produces

007 056 (seven thousand and fifty six ) of nine forms of bi-literal (of two letters) verbal roots of the past tense;
065 856 (sixty five thousand eight hundred and fifty six) of three forms of tri-literal (of three letters) verbal roots of the past tense;
614 656 (six hundred and fourteen thousand six hundred and fifty six) of one form of quadri-literal (of four letters) verbal roots of the past tense;

687 568 (six hundred and eighty seven thousand five hundred and sixty eight) in total verbal roots of the past tense.

Then the bi-literal and tri-literal verbal roots of the past tense extend into another fourteen further extensions and dimensions producing another 1093 680 (one million and ninety three thousand six hundred and eighty) verbs of various shades of determined and calculated meaning.
The bi-literal and tri-literal verbal roots of the past tense extend into four further extensions and dimensions producing another 2 458 624 (two million four hundred and fifty eight thousand six hundred and twenty four) verbs of various shades of determined and calculated meaning.

I am going to put you to a greater challenge without much explanation.

Take verb pattern (4) XaXaXa and replace the exes with b s m to get basama. Verb pattern (4) XaXaXa in Arabic extends into another 14 further verbs of the past tense based on the following program. Your task brother is to leave the program just as it is and then replace the eXes with the given letters. Write out the complete results as it appears in the program.

Here is Fig. 002 The Dimensions of The Triliteral Verb Nr. 001

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/lexmod2.png

+salaam
al-amiyr