I think ALLAH hates me for this

Aamer

Btw,
I agree that it doesn't matter how you pray as long as you fulfill the required acts. Personally I pray similar to how traditional Muslims pray, except I don't recite Durood and I end prayer with prostration and the words Alhamdulillahi Rab il Alameen (1010). But I don't judge others who pray differently. There are wrong ways to pray, but there is no one right way. It's between you and Allah.

What are the requirements of Salat in Quran?

Do ablution (Wudu) first
Face the Qibla (although this may not even matter)
Commemorate God Alone
Recite from Quran
Stand, bow and prostrate

Peace.

Loveleen

Thank You So Much To Everyone that commented you guys are freaking amazing

After i wrote that post i was going to do something irrational i was just going to give up and just go back to sect way i was just done with the sorrow and sadness and confusion and then you guys start to write and how you had similar story's it made me think about my action like what the heck am i doing i shouldn't give up because i feel this way and if i do i will sure be the loser in this world and the after so i had to suck it up and put on my big girl pants

i asked myself how can i just retire from my beautiful lord when i feel such a deep connection to him now more then ever i talked to allah and i know he listens to each and everyone of us and knows what we went through. but after i realize i shouldn't give up and take this journey head on i was gettin getting tired so i went to bed and i had a dream i really dont remember it all but the most vivid part of this dream is im sitting in my living room floor on my praying mat holding and reading the Quran just pondering over Allah book it was such a calming feeling but i wonder what this dream means

Salam
Loveleen

Mikebloke

Salam, I would interpret that dream to mean you wish to continue this path despite the obstacles you face (even your own father) . It will be a hard task but often the best things in life are hard to reach.

Loveleen

Salam Mikebloke

WOW!!! i haven't thought about it that way you could be right bravo thank you

diamantinehoneybunch

Peace be unto thee Loveleen, all )

Why would God hate you for following His True Path?

My parents don't believe what i say and they call me crazy they ask me why are a millions of Muslims doing the same thing if is bad

6116 And if you obey most of those on the earth they will lead you away from the path of God; that is because they follow conjecture, and that is because they only guess.

Read this verse. God already warns us not to follow most of the people on this Earth because they only follow conjecture.

Just because the traditionalists are very large in number, doesn't mean that they are on the right track. Ponder the verse 6116 in the Holy Qur'an that I quoted above.
The most devoted religion in the world is Christianity. Are they right just because they are the largest in number?

RED Sorry to say but your parents made a fallacious argument against you. The fallacy is called Argumentum ad Polulum, which is like "Many believe it so, it is so".

Sunnis are really large in number? Billions? Who are the billions of Sunnis? Who found the stastics? Who make up the Sunni population?

People that are COUNTED as Sunnis in the stastistics consist of

Extremists such as Salafis, Wahhabis, Deobandis etc
The four madhabs (Shafi, Hanbali, Maliki, Hanafi) strong adherents.
Moderate Sunnis
Non-practising Sunnis
Sunnis who don't even know what Sunni / Ahlul Sunna Wa AlJama3ah is
Sunnis who are only Muslims (Sunnis) by name but don't know what Islam is.
Don't be surprised with the following lists
Ex-Sunnis who have secretly converted to other sects such as Shi'a, Qadiani etc
Apostates (ex-Muslims) who have later become...
(i) Christians
(ii) Atheists.
Quran-alone MUSLIMS.
And others
Uneducated/uncivilized people living in poor countries such as in some parts of Africa
and the list goes on and on

So not all the Billions of Sunnis are actually Sunnis. It is just an approximation based on simple calculation (I mean by simply summing up). How do I know this? Well, one of the reasons is the people who carry out the stastics do so by calculating people who are known as Muslims because of their birth certificates, identity cards, documents, community and where they are from? i.e. if the Muslims are from Iran, most of them are automatically counted as Shi'ites because Iran is a Shi'a-majority country (even though some of the Iranian Muslims who are counted as Shi'ites are perhaps atheists who left islam, Qur'an-aloners, Sunnis etc).

I am sorry for talking about this Sunni-statistic thingy. I think I should create a new thread about this and elaborate it more )

i feel worthless i feel like i dont deserve Allah to love me because i dont know how to praise him and i dont want to be among those who made him angry i just feel really low right now and my parent think i already went crazy and lost it they say i need to get my head check and i need to go to a mental institution.

Please do not feel worthless. It has been 3 1/3 months since I totally became a Qur'an-alone muslim. It took some times for me to think and think and think and decide about this. When the first time I heard about Quranism, I was like "impossible" but at least I never condemmed it. A few months ago while I was reading an article on a website, I felt really happy and satisfied until I found out that the website was a Quranist website. I felt upset and I was like "Argghhh this is a Quranist website! Where are other mainstream-Islamic websites that support my view?". But by God's grace, I kept searching the truth and accepted it. Don't worry about your parents' will to send you to a mental institution just because you tell them you have accepted the truth. If you are admitted to a mental hospital, just consider it as one of God's greatest tests for you.
When I turn 18, next year, I will send my parents a letter about this.

i went through this forum and read everything about salat and everyone has different interpretation about it and how many is it.

It is not only Qur'an-alone muslims that have different interpretations on some issues. Traditional Muslims also have much more contradictory interpretations. So don't worry about it. Study the thing that you have doubt, compare and pray to the Lord that he will make it easier and clarify to you, God willing.

Just read the stories in Qur'an about God's messengers Jesus/Isa, Moses/Musa, Noah/Nuh, Abraham/Ibrahim etc. Many people used to reject them.

Regards,
Yuliana

Loveleen

salam Yuliana

thank you Yuliana you made me feel so much better sis love you thank you soooo much this means so much to me group

youssef4342

Just as an advice, don't tell you parents anything that might make them upset, unless you can live independently.
you can advise your parents, but you can't necessarily guide them, and vice versa.

Loveleen

Thank you youssef

I was thinking about moving out on October but i decide it not to because when you love someone so much you just cant let them be in the path they are so i will do what you said but known my family they will ask questions and want to know why i do the things i do and then i can explain to them.

today i was at Teavannah (little cute store where they sell tea's) with my mom she told me why am i so adamant about the path im going and i told my mom.....Mom do you ever wonder why you do the things you do? do you ever question? and she reply to me we ladies dont question the people who's in authority

i said something to her that made her think i told her who is in control them or God and i said i love you mom with all my heart and my soul but God gave you a mind so think mom i know how you are your so passionate at what you do your an amazing women if it wasn't for you i wouldn't be the women i am today i also said that if she is for women right then why are you supporting something thats degrading women

Salam
Loveleem

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Salaam!

Btw,
I agree that it doesn't matter how you pray as long as you fulfill the required acts. Personally I pray similar to how traditional Muslims pray, except I don't recite Durood and I end prayer with prostration and the words Alhamdulillahi Rab il Alameen (1010). But I don't judge others who pray differently. There are wrong ways to pray, but there is no one right way. It's between you and Allah.

What are the requirements of Salat in Quran?

Do ablution (Wudu) first
Face the Qibla (although this may not even matter)
Commemorate God Alone
Recite from Quran
Stand, bow and prostrate

Peace.

WOW! How uncanny, that's precisely how I pray!

peace

IAMOP

Reading this is like a blast from the past.

My experience of this journey has led to this understanding

There has always been an unbroken chain of secret quran-only souls all the way through from beginning to end.

There have always been countless many seekers of Allah/Tao/YHWH/Brahman/" "
Again, an unbroken stream of sincere pure souls, seeking and teaching

The best of teachers is The Light of the Heavens and Earth
and it may help to have good company through this sincere pure kind souls who desire from you no reward

In this context I have found that Sahaja Yoga is a good place to start. Yoga, meditation, chi-gong, mantra. Do everything to anchor your Self into your Body and the rest will be so easy that every day you will wake up shining with the glory of The God before your eyes.

The journey can be fast or slow, all up to you. I was the type who wanted it yesterday and so The God gave it to me yesterday, now the Earth is spinning round and I feel like the rest of the world is catching up. But then also the realisation that everybody themselves has it yesterday and they may understand this should they seek!

The God has shaped your body to be infinite in many ways, yet limited by one thing time
Fear will be released with firm knowledge, so look for the moments where everything claps and clicks into place. There you shall find your Rabb speaking, through the people, listen to the signs of your Rabb and trust it will be fine.

A lot of us are on this forum "on the other side" where it has become manifestly clear and we have entirely broken out of the matrix and are now finding truly our place on the Earth and in the cosmos. Let us all carry you through the Divided Sea, by the leave of The Light of the Heavens and Earth jedi

Peace be upon you, kind soul, forever and ever

Loveleen

Reading this is like a blast from the past.

My experience of this journey has led to this understanding

There has always been an unbroken chain of secret quran-only souls all the way through from beginning to end.

There have always been countless many seekers of Allah/Tao/YHWH/Brahman/" "
Again, an unbroken stream of sincere pure souls, seeking and teaching

The best of teachers is The Light of the Heavens and Earth
and it may help to have good company through this sincere pure kind souls who desire from you no reward

In this context I have found that Sahaja Yoga is a good place to start. Yoga, meditation, chi-gong, mantra. Do everything to anchor your Self into your Body and the rest will be so easy that every day you will wake up shining with the glory of The God before your eyes.

The journey can be fast or slow, all up to you. I was the type who wanted it yesterday and so The God gave it to me yesterday, now the Earth is spinning round and I feel like the rest of the world is catching up. But then also the realisation that everybody themselves has it yesterday and they may understand this should they seek!

The God has shaped your body to be infinite in many ways, yet limited by one thing time
Fear will be released with firm knowledge, so look for the moments where everything claps and clicks into place. There you shall find your Rabb speaking, through the people, listen to the signs of your Rabb and trust it will be fine.

A lot of us are on this forum "on the other side" where it has become manifestly clear and we have entirely broken out of the matrix and are now finding truly our place on the Earth and in the cosmos. Let us all carry you through the Divided Sea, by the leave of The Light of the Heavens and Earth jedi

Peace be upon you, kind soul, forever and ever

I must say this comment is beautiful thank you im so appreciative to have people like you Wow Allah is great thank you everyone who comment you guys are just beautiful amazing people with different background and stories thank you and much love

Aamer

Salaam!

WOW! How uncanny, that's precisely how I pray!

peace

So we pray right and everyone else is wrong! Oh wait, this isn't the Sunni forum. Never mind!

Bigmo

Salam My Beautiful Sisters&brothers

So it been almost a month on my spiritual journey and my Quran only view i have got to say i'm very lonely
My parents don't believe what i say and they call me crazy they ask me why are a millions of Muslims doing the same thing if is bad
I try to explain is tradition not religion i know Allah is the truth and i asked for this from him. I cried to him one night and told him
i want to connected With you Ya Allah i want to connected with you please make it easier for me

i want to find out the truth let me go on a journey on finding the Truth let my soul go on this spiritual journey where i connect with you my Lord and im going through this journey right now and is very hard. what if im wrong what if Allah wouldn't accept me and my way isn't right what if im transgressing i stop my traditional way i don't even know how to praise My lord anymore i read the Quran i try to seek more knowledge but i don't know how Allah want me to praise him i cried i begun to cry even more

i feel worthless i feel like i dont deserve Allah to love me because i dont know how to praise him and i dont want to be among those who made him angry i just feel really low right now and my parent think i already went crazy and lost it they say i need to get my head check and i need to go to a mental institution. It is hard im just some stranger like you sitting behind a screen and typing my sorrows away and seeking truth and knowledge i have abandon everything i knew and starting fresh is hard i went through this forum and read everything about salat and everyone has different interpretation about it and how many is it. this the most vulnerable i been behind a screen all i ask Allah is for guidance i asked him to guide me like he guided all the messengers i wish i knew someone who live close to me to talk about this i just wish i knew if Allah is proud of me just following the Quran Alone

Salam
Loveleen

I am not sure why many Quranist discuss these issues with parents and relatives. Seek knowledge is the best answer anyone can give you. There is no way to do salat. Even Sunni sources say the prophet prayed twice in Mecca and there was no specific way to pray when he was in Mecca. We have a very legalistic view of rituals. Anyways Allah is not going to make such judgments about you that easy. You will face trials and tribulations and you will face serious testing.

ForTheTruth

I think i know who you are and your father but just pray to god sister

huruf

I think you already have got very good answers. So I will say just this

God is directly so very close to you, He knows you so well, He made you, He chose you, He made you just as He wanted you to be, He thought up your destiny to go back to Him. You are safe, you were always safe, you will always be safe. Trust Him, trust him like dogs trust, never doubting, no matter how much they may have to wait or how much patience they may need. Do not distrust human kind, and particularly do not distrust yourself. With human kind we must be careful, cautious, because nything may come up. With ourselve also, we do not know how or when we may make complete fools out of ourselves, but no tmatter what, know that God loves you, He made you and you will go back to Him, nd ask Him for everything you need wor crave, and believe that God always answers, although His answer may have nothing todo with what we may have imagined it would be, but be sure that his answer will be the best one for you personally. You may think you have certain limits, but God knows better.

Do not distrust, do not dispair, be calm and joyous, you have every reason to. Even in the middle of the worst we have reason for that.

Salaam

Loveleen

I think i know who you are and your father but just pray to god sister

im sorry but i dont know well i think i dont

I think you already have got very good answers. So I will say just this

God is directly so very close to you, He knows you so well, He made you, He chose you, He made you just as He wanted you to be, He thought up your destiny to go back to Him. You are safe, you were always safe, you will always be safe. Trust Him, trust him like dogs trust, never doubting, no matter how much they may have to wait or how much patience they may need. Do not distrust human kind, and particularly do not distrust yourself. With human kind we must be careful, cautious, because nything may come up. With ourselve also, we do not know how or when we may make complete fools out of ourselves, but no tmatter what, know that God loves you, He made you and you will go back to Him, nd ask Him for everything you need wor crave, and believe that God always answers, although His answer may have nothing todo with what we may have imagined it would be, but be sure that his answer will be the best one for you personally. You may think you have certain limits, but God knows better.

Do not distrust, do not dispair, be calm and joyous, you have every reason to. Even in the middle of the worst we have reason for that.

Salaam

Thank you so much for it touched my heart thank you

clashncruz

Assalaamu wa Alaikum,

I am so happy you are on a path seeking the Truth as well, Alhamdulillah. And may Allah bless all your endeavors. Just to give you another perspective on all of this, I will tell you that my situation was similar only that I come from a non-religious mostly atheist family, and I was an atheist myself before finding Islam. Your parents ask you why do you pray that way, mine ask why I pray at all. Haha, so it has been an extremely difficult process, and is ongoing. I just had a family reunion with the side of the family from the south who are all mostly fundamentalist Southern Baptist Christians, so that was interesting. Anyway the point is that you will be tested and will continue to be tested, as will everyone, so try to stay strong.

You are right about what you said to your mother. God gave you a brain for a reason, so use it and continue to seek the truth in the best manner you can. Don't worry about what others think, what is important is what Allah thinks of us. I hope the best for you and pray everything will turn out well, remember everything happens for a reason.

Salaam

P.S. Have you ever heard of Adnan Ibrahim, you and/or your parents might be interested in seeing some of his videos. Here is a link to one and you can explore from there. Happy Learning!

The Human that God Wants http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX3URPb_lg

Loveleen

Assalaamu wa Alaikum,

I am so happy you are on a path seeking the Truth as well, Alhamdulillah. And may Allah bless all your endeavors. Just to give you another perspective on all of this, I will tell you that my situation was similar only that I come from a non-religious mostly atheist family, and I was an atheist myself before finding Islam. Your parents ask you why do you pray that way, mine ask why I pray at all. Haha, so it has been an extremely difficult process, and is ongoing. I just had a family reunion with the side of the family from the south who are all mostly fundamentalist Southern Baptist Christians, so that was interesting. Anyway the point is that you will be tested and will continue to be tested, as will everyone, so try to stay strong.

You are right about what you said to your mother. God gave you a brain for a reason, so use it and continue to seek the truth in the best manner you can. Don't worry about what others think, what is important is what Allah thinks of us. I hope the best for you and pray everything will turn out well, remember everything happens for a reason.

Salaam

P.S. Have you ever heard of Adnan Ibrahim, you and/or your parents might be interested in seeing some of his videos. Here is a link to one and you can explore from there. Happy Learning!

The Human that God Wants http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX3URPb_lg

Thank you for this and for the video it made me tear up thank i deeply appreciate it