surat 'Ali 'Imran verse 164

ForTheTruth

from my understand Al-Hikmah mean the wisdom so what i think this verse is saying is Allah has send a messenger for us to reciting His signs and tech us the book and the wisdom it holds please correct me if im wrong but thats what i think

Israfeel

It is the Sunnah.

Al-Kitab wal Hikmah

(Quran and Sunnah)

Sunnah is the Wisdom to understand the Quran. Without Sunnah, a person has neither wisdom nor can he properly understand the Quran.

ForTheTruth

sunnah is no wisdom if you want wisdom it comes from Allah and that the Quran stick with it

Israfeel

sunnah is no wisdom if you want wisdom it comes from Allah and that the Quran stick with it

Then why Allah said Wisdom (Al Hikmah) separate from Al Kitab which is the Quran.

If you know Arabic, to say that Al Kitab Wal Hikmah (Book and Wisdom) means that Book and Wisdom are two distinct things.

If you mean to say the Quran is Wisdom, the verse would say "Al hikmah minal Quran" or "al Quran al Hakeem".

Instead it says "Al Kitaab wal Hikmah" proving for definite that the Hikmah is distinct from the Book, so it must be the Sunnah!

ForTheTruth

Because The Kitab has the wisdom because it is from ALLAH swt

Israfeel

Because The Kitab has the wisdom because it is from ALLAH swt

No doubt, but the fact still remains Allah said in the Quran that Al Kitab and Al Hikmah are two separate things!

You say Quran is full of wisdom, so why you don't study it carefully and accept this fact?

ForTheTruth

3164 GOD has blessed the believers by raising in their midst a messenger from among them, to recite for them His revelations, and to purify them,and to teach them the scripture and wisdom. Before this, they had gone totally astray.

The scripture and wisdom that come from the book

Israfeel

3164 GOD has blessed the believers by raising in their midst a messenger from among them, to recite for them His revelations, and to purify them,and to teach them the scripture and wisdom. Before this, they had gone totally astray.

The scripture and wisdom that come from the book

How ignorant can you be?

Scripture and book is the same thing (Al-Kitab)

Nevermind Arabic, it seems you can't even comprehend the English language rotfl

ForTheTruth

If you understand what the heck i typed then you will understand what i meant i know a Scripture and book is the same thing

what i said is The Book and wisdom is the book itself so therefor the wisdom is in the book if you got that then you got it but if you dont then you cant understand it

Israfeel

If you understand what the heck i typed then you will understand what i meant i know a Scripture and book is the same thing

what i said is The Book and wisdom is the book itself so therefor the wisdom is in the book if you got that then you got it but if you dont then you cant understand it

Then why is Wisdom mentioned as separate from Quran "Al Kitab WAL Hikmah" (The Book AND the Wisdom)

There's no escaping the fact that the Book and Wisdom are two separate, distinct things. If you understood the basics of language you would comprehend this fact.

ForTheTruth

Stop just stop you wont get it there is something in your heart and mind blocking that understanding and is called the sunnah

Mazhar

It is a certain fact that Allah the Exalted had conferred beneficence/indebtedness upon ] the Believers at the point in time when He appointed a Revivalist/re-Awakener within them as a messenger who was one of their community*

He recites syllable by syllable/word by word upon them Our Aa'ya'at unitary verbal passages of the Book conveying information and facts.

And he intellectually uplifts-sanctifies them .

And he educates them to read and write the recited text imparting the knowledge of the Book and he teaches them how to attain the wisdom capability to perceive the information about invisible realities.

And they were certainly in a manifest state of negligence-un-mindfulness in aforetimes.

Two independent clauses are compounded by a conjunction to make it a compound sentence. The verb, the subject and the suffixed first object of the verb is to be translated in relation to the second object of the verb; which are Aliktaba known specific book Qur'aan; and then with Alhikmata definite feminine noun. Book is masculine.

Verbal noun - signifies educating, instructing to learn reading and writing the book;

http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.032/1.Hakimo%20Ha%20Kaaf%20Meem/3.gif Noun Definite; singular; feminine; Accusative. This denotes the wisdom, the faculty and capability to perceive the invisible information/data, differentiate and delineate between conjecture and fact, falsity and truth.

Translation after parsing the sentences 3164

Scribbler

Dear brother Abu Zakaria,

May peace be with you.

You have quoted

Allah did confer a great favour on the believers when He sent among them a messenger from among themselves, rehearsing unto them the Signs of Allah, sanctifying them, and instructing them in Scripture and Wisdom (Arabic hikmata), while, before that, they had been in manifest error. (3164)

It is asserted by many Muslims that the existence of the 'sunna' of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) which remains compulsory on Muslims to follow is attested by the following verse

3334
"And remember what is recited in your houses of the verses (Arabic ayati) of God and the wisdom (Arabic hikmati); surely God is Knower of subtleties, Aware."

It is further asserted that the 'Prophetic sunna' is embodied in certain Islamic secondary sources. The reader will note that there is no direct mention of the Arabic term 'sunna' in the above quoted verse (3334), despite the term 'sunna' being well attested and utilised by the Quran.

The word 'hikmah' has been used in the Quran many times. Given its multi-faceted usage in different contexts, it clearly denotes the 'enlightenment' or 'wisdom' one acquires from an accumulated body of work or knowledge.

This 'hikmah' (wisdom) is also not restricted to the Prophets or messengers of God, but granted to anyone who reflects, ponders and attempts to grasp the message of God and ultimately, to whom God pleases

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"He grants wisdom (Arabic hikmata) to whom He pleases; and he to whom wisdom (Arabic hikmata) is granted receives indeed a benefit overflowing; but none will grasp the Message but those of understanding. (Arabic albabi)"

Note the word 'albabi' above who are invariably those who make use of the faculty of thinking and of understanding. These individuals are linked by the grace of God with receiving 'hikmah'. Therefore, this 'hikmah' is available to anyone (God willing) who attempts to understand the message of God by extracting the best meaning

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"Those who listen to the Word (the Quran) and follow the best meaning in it those are the ones whom God has guided and those are the one's endowed with understanding. (Arabic albabi)"

'Hikmah' is also not restricted to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) nor does it refer to his 'particular sunna' as all Prophets of God possessed 'hikmah' (wisdom)

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"And when God took the covenant of the prophets, saying "I have given you a Book and Wisdom (Arabic hikmatin)..."

With regards the people/generation of Prophet Abraham (pbuh)

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"Or do they envy mankind for what God has given them of his bounty? but We had already given the people of Abraham the Book and Wisdom (Arabic hikmata), and conferred upon them a great kingdom."

With regards Prophet David (pbuh)

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"We strengthened his kingdom, and gave him wisdom (Arabic hikmata) and sound judgment in speech and decision."

With regards Prophet Jesus (pbuh)

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"When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said "Now have I come to you with Wisdom (Arabic hikmati), and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute therefore fear God and obey me."

Also all believers are asked to use 'hikmah' (Wisdom)

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"Invite / Call (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom (Arabic hikmati) and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious for thy Lord knows best, who have strayed from His path, and who receive guidance."

To assert that the term 'hikmah' (wisdom) mentioned in verse 3334 is proof and representative of the 'sunna' of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is untenable and unwarranted from the Quran's perspective.

Regards.

Mazhar

3918

"Those who listen to the Word (the Quran) and follow the best meaning in it those are the ones whom God has guided and those are the one's endowed with understanding. (Arabic albabi)"

There is no such thing "best meaning in it". Qur'aan elaborates the conduct of different people. It defines what is right and wrong, what is ordinary, what is wrong, what is criminal, and what is the best course of action.

Those who attentively and carefully listen the Verbal Communication Grand Qur'aan; thereat they pursue in letter and spirit the best course of conduct prescribed therein;
They are truly the people whom Allah the Exalted has guided aright.
And they are truly the men of wisdom who look into matters objectively without overlapping with emotions-prejudices-biases-whims and conjectural myths.

Sunna, the conduct of the Messenger is also written in the Book. Human writings associating it to him are mere gossips.

Scribbler

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There is no such thing "best meaning in it". Qur'aan elaborates the conduct of different people. It defines what is right and wrong, what is ordinary, what is wrong, what is criminal, and what is the best course of action.

Those who attentively and carefully listen the Verbal Communication Grand Qur'aan; thereat they pursue in letter and spirit the best course of conduct prescribed therein;
They are truly the people whom Allah the Exalted has guided aright.
And they are truly the men of wisdom who look into matters objectively without overlapping with emotions-prejudices-biases-whims and conjectural myths.

Sunna, the conduct of the Messenger is also written in the Book. Human writings associating it to him are mere gossips.

Peace be upon you brother, Mazhar.

Thank you for sharing your understanding. handshake

Still the fact remains, from a Quran's point of view, the word 'hikmah' clearly does not refer to the ahadeeth ascribed to the prophet in the books of Bukhari, Muslim etc.

Scribbler

Human writings associating it to him are mere gossips.

Agreed absolutely.

hawk99

Peace,

Wisdom is contained in the Quran as well as other scriptures.

He bestows wisdom upon whomever He chooses, and whoever attains wisdom,
has attained a great bounty. Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.

These are the revelations that we recite to you, providing a message full of wisdom.

It is said that wisdom is a tree with branches, for the wise one must be a seeker of
knowledge and understanding, discernment, justice, sagacity, insight, and patience.

God bless

peace

Israfeel

With respect to Prophet Eisa (alaihe salam), Allah the Holy and Exalted says in the Quran Majeed

And He (Allah) shall teach him the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Injeel (Surah 34

Here four things have been mentioned, 1. The Book, 2. The Wisdom, 3. The Torah, and 4. The Injeel

Now it is obvious that the Torah is a separate thing from the Injeel (Gospel), and these two are separate things from the Kitab (Quran). Therefore, logically it follows that the Al-Hikmah (Wisdom) is also a distinct thing from all three, including the Book.

Coincidentally, this verse establishes the second coming of Prophet Eisa (alaihe salam) among the Ummah of the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alaihe wasallam) - which is why Allah has given him knowledge of the Book and the Wisdom (Quran and Sunnah) in addition to knowledge of the Torah and the Gospel.

So those misguided people who keep shouting at the top of their lungs "Quran only! Quran only!" have been so beguiled by Satan that they don't realize that Quran keeps saying "The Book and the WISDOM".

Only those who have Wisdom will know that it is pointing undeniably to the Sunnah. Those who only have the Book but not the Wisdom will never understand this. Allah has sealed up their hearts and their seeing and their hearing.

They are Deaf, Dumb and Blind....and they will not return (to the Straight Path)

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