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Well, like Jesus, always found reason not to stone through the law. We were the ones who were killed, beheaded, and crucified.
Green Can you elaborate on this? Are you saying that Jesus tried to make reasons not to stone even though stone was in the Book?
Oh really? You and your folks were the ones who were crucified, beheaded and killed? So what about the people in Theocratic countries who are killed for expressing their views on Islam?
I am not a fan of Shi'a idolatry but what about Shi'ites in Pakistan who are tortured just for being Shi'ites?
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Green Can you elaborate on this? Are you saying that Jesus tried to make reasons not to stone even though stone was in the Book?
Oh really? You and your folks were the ones who were crucified, beheaded and killed? So what about the people in Theocratic countries who are killed for expressing their views on Islam?
I am not a fan of Shi'a idolatry but what about Shi'ites in Pakistan who are tortured just for being Shi'ites?
I see that you cannot focus on one thing. Stop jumping up and down like a grasshopper.
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I see that you cannot focus on one thing. Stop jumping up and down like a grasshopper.
You are the one who likes to run away from questions. You just prove your cowardice over and over again.
Instead of making ad hominem why don't you answer my question on that Jesus's part?Happy stoning!
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You are the one who likes to run away from questions. You just prove your cowardice over and over again.
Instead of making ad hominem why don't you answer my question on that Jesus's part?Happy stoning!
Go read it up in the Bible! Must I always spoon feed you?
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Go read it up in the Bible! Must I always spoon feed you?
It is like a scientist saying "go read up all 3000 pages of encyclopaedia to find out the simple definiton of waves. Must I always spoonfeed you?"
Anyway bro, so far you have not explained much to the questions from me. How is that spoonfeeding?
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It is like a scientist saying "go read up all 3000 pages of encyclopaedia to find out the simple definiton of waves. Must I always spoonfeed you?"
Anyway bro, so far you have not explained much to the questions from me. How is that spoonfeeding?
Why should I ask you to read 3000 pages when you do not even want to read one page. You are the one who likes making wavvvvvvvvvvvvves. You lie again. No one in the history of Free-minds have answered so many questions as I did in such a short period of time. Have you forgotten how the statistics falsified your claims.
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Why should I ask you to read 3000 pages when you do not even want to read one page. You are the one who likes making wavvvvvvvvvvvvves. You lie again. No one in the history of Free-minds have answered so many questions as I did in such a short period of time. Have you forgotten how the statistics falsified your claims.
Lie about what?
You answer what?
You didn't even answer my simple questions that are mostly about Sunni hadiths.
You are confusing posting many threads per day with preaching sects.
afridi220 is the top topic starter but he did not hijack this forum because he just simply posted his thoughts. He didn't preach other school of jurisprudence (i.e. Abu Bakr Effendi's version of madhab Hanafi of Sunnism) like you.You accept stoning, a pagan practice.
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Lie about what?
You answer what?
You didn't even answer my simple questions that are mostly about Sunni hadiths.
You are confusing posting many threads per day with preaching sects.
afridi220 is the top topic starter but he did not hijack this forum because he just simply posted his thoughts. He didn't preach other school of jurisprudence (i.e. Abu Bakr Effendi's version of madhab Hanafi of Sunnism) like you.You accept stoning, a pagan practice.
Lying, spreading falsehood, and backbiting demonstrates your character. I have already drawn up a psychological profile of you from the beginning. So I understand you very well. The proof of this I can show from all your posts. Continue because everything you are writing is being recorded and I am analyzing all the data.
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Lying, spreading falsehood, and backbiting demonstrates your character. I have already drawn up a psychological profile of you from the beginning. So I understand you very well. The proof of this I can show from all your posts. Continue because everything you are writing is being recorded and I am analyzing all the data.
Peace,
al-amiyr - Date Registered December 03, 2012, 023127 PM
13 days on forum, a few posts (mostly spam) for your psychological and physiological profile...
Or basically delusions of grandeur with exaggerated beliefs of one's self, knowledge, and ties of identity to a famous person as means to compensate for lack of self confidence and self-esteem, and to overcome feelings of depression most probably due to lack of sunlight, poor diet, sleeping habits, and lack of exercise.
2168 O you al-nas/the humankind eat from what in the earth lawful clean and not follow steps the devil/shaitaan indeed he for you enemy clear
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Peace,
al-amiyr - Date Registered December 03, 2012, 023127 PM
13 days on forum, a few posts (mostly spam) for your psychological and physiological profile...
Quote from Noon waalqalami on December 16, 2012, 032259 PM
Or basically delusions of grandeur with exaggerated beliefs of one's self, knowledge, and ties of identity to a famous person as means to compensate for lack of self confidence and self-esteem, and to overcome feelings of depression most probably due to lack of sunlight, poor diet, sleeping habits, and lack of exercise.
2168 O you al-nas/the humankind eat from what in the earth lawful clean and not follow steps the devil/shaitaan indeed he for you enemy clear
What is expected from those who have usurped the right of the family ALLAAH has chosen through the ages to teach and preserve his knowledge. You live your life based upon delusions. You can never address issues - a common trait. So you are very well understood. You do not even know the meaning of the first letter 'alif but you want to expound the Qur'aan. Something wrong somewhere.
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Lying, spreading falsehood, and backbiting demonstrates your character. I have already drawn up a psychological profile of you from the beginning. So I understand you very well. The proof of this I can show from all your posts. Continue because everything you are writing is being recorded and I am analyzing all the data.
Can you tell me what did I lie about you?
I mostly ask you questions.
So what kind of lies are you talking about.Ever since I started communicating with you, I have never lied anything about you.
Simply ask you questions request you to prove this or that and criticize your posts.Do you miss to get banned?
You are making a threat against me to humiliate me personally.
I am curious about your stoning law.
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What is expected from those who have usurped the right of the family ALLAAH has chosen through the ages to teach and preserve his knowledge. You live your life based upon delusions. You can never address issues - a common trait. So you are very well understood. You do not even know the meaning of the first letter 'alif but you want to expound the Qur'aan. Something wrong somewhere.
Red hmm
Blue hmm
Green You brother Noon, live your life based upon delusions? hmm
Please take a look again at Red and Blue part bro Noon. temptTeal Don't you know yet that the meaning of "alif" bro? brickwall
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Can you tell me what did I lie about you?
I mostly ask you questions.
So what kind of lies are you talking about.Ever since I started communicating with you, I have never lied anything about you.
Simply ask you questions request you to prove this or that and criticize your posts.Do you miss to get banned?
You are making a threat against me to humiliate me personally.
I am curious about your stoning law.
So you want to continue with your lies and if I threaten to point them out to you then you want to summon up a ban? Is this the only way you can fight and win your arguments? Terminate the guy and then delude yourself that you shall be the inheritor of the earth. I say and I say it again that you have lied and spread false information and if the rules of this forum is justly executed then you must be banned. But this I do not wish to be implemented against you. I rather enjoy listening to your silly talks and respond to them likewise.
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So you want to continue with your lies and if I threaten to point them out to you then you want to summon up a ban? Is this the only way you can fight and win your arguments? Terminate the guy and then delude yourself that you shall be the inheritor of the earth. I say and I say it again that you have lied and spread false information and if the rules of this forum is justly executed then you must be banned. But this I do not wish to be implemented against you. I rather enjoy listening to your silly talks and respond to them likewise.
Win an argument?
Your so-called arguments are mostly pointless.
You did not refute every point of every post I created as a reply to you.
You can barely answer my questions ? the 22 questions, stoning question, proof of hidden book CONTENTS.
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Win an argument?
Your so-called arguments are mostly pointless.
You did not refute every point of every post I created as a reply to you.
You can barely answer my questions ? the 22 questions, stoning question, proof of hidden book CONTENTS.
IOk! Henceforth I will continue with the rational.
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Salaam everyone
Looks like some members in here missunderstood Al-Amyr.Some of members in here accuse Al-Amyr's ancestors as supporter or even performer of stoning without anykind of proof.
I won't take side in this debate nor supporting al-amyr, but accusing someone withouth anykind of clear proof is act of fitnah and fitnah is more harsh than murdering (QS 21191).
If we patient to read al-amyr posts in here, then we will know if Al-amyr's claim if his forefathers was presecuted and even became victim of stoning by some sectarian politicians.
And one of his ancestor, Hajj Atullah Effendi a Turkish consult to Singapore is a hero for Indonesian, Malaysian and Singaporean because he brevely to stand up against European colonizer and he end to be murdered by British agent.
I'm nothing, but my post is just for a reminder.
Peace
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Salaam everyone
Looks like some members in here missunderstood Al-Amyr.Some of members in here accuse Al-Amyr's ancestors as supporter or even performer of stoning without anykind of proof.
I won't take side in this debate nor supporting al-amyr, but accusing someone withouth anykind of clear proof is act of fitnah and fitnah is more harsh than murdering (QS 21191).
If we patient to read al-amyr posts in here, then we will know if Al-amyr's claim if his forefathers was presecuted and even became victim of stoning by some sectarian politicians.
And one of his ancestor, Hajj Atullah Effendi a Turkish consult to Singapore is a hero for Indonesian, Malaysian and Singaporean because he brevely to stand up against European colonizer and he end to be murdered by British agent.
I'm nothing, but my post is just for a reminder.
Peace
Earthdom,
did the book or Qur'an command anyone to stone people?
No the Qur'aan did not but the book (al-kitaab) did.
I know you are actually talking about me right? I never said that his ancestors stoned people.
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Salaam Yuliana
I'm not accusing you, but for anticipate if this debate turned into like that.
Btw the word "Al" before "Kitab" indicate if that Kitab (book in english) is "something special" and not "ordinary one", so this means Al-Kitab=Scripture.
The Scripture is not only Al-Quran but also Bible, Torah, Wedha, Tripitaka etc.But until now I don't understand what is "Al-Kitab", al-amyr refers to??
But yes there are some verses in the Old (Torah) and New Testament which talking about stoning.Peace
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Salaam Yuliana
I'm not accusing you, but for anticipate if this debate turned into like that.
Btw the word "Al" before "Kitab" indicate if that Kitab (book in english) is "something special" and not "ordinary one", so this means Al-Kitab=Scripture.
The Scripture is not only Al-Quran but also Bible, Torah, Wedha, Tripitaka etc.But until now I don't understand what is "Al-Kitab", al-amyr refers to??
But yes there are some verses in the Old (Torah) and New Testament which talking about stoning.Peace
Regarding the Al Kitaab of Al Amiyr, that is what I have been curious about.
Do you believe that the present-day Torah and Old Testament are the same revelations that God sent down?
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Do you believe that the present-day Torah and Old Testament are the same revelations that God sent down?
No I don't. from some evidences and my own research.
Sometimes I try to compare Bible and Quran teaching and the result is they're contradict each otherExample
Quran orders Qishas
545 And We have decreed for them in it that a life for a life, and an eye for an eye, and a nose for a nose, and an ear for an ear, and a tooth for a tooth, and wounds to be similar; and whoever remits anything of it, then it will cancel sins for him. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the wicked.
2194 The restricted month may be met within the restricted month,and what is unlawful may be met with retaliation. Whoever attacks
you, then you shall attack him the same as he attacked you; and be aware of God, and know that God is with the righteous.while, New Testament didn't
You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.But I say to you, Do not resist the evil man ; but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, turn to him the other one too.And if anyone wants to sue you and take your undershirt (tunic), let him have your coat also.(Mathew 5 verse 38-40)
And there are so many contradiction, but I hope you search the anothers
The true previous Kitabs musn't contradict the Quran (8718 etc).
Peace