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    drfazl
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    Remember that these are only translations and not the real Qur'aan which is in the perfect branch of the Arabic language which Arabs (overwhelmingly) in the world do not speak.

    Mr Amiyr,

    What is the meaning of the ayats in 5417, 22, 32, 40

    1. And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember then is there any that will receive admonition?

    Please give the translation of that part of perfect Arabic Language which the world neither speaks; nor even know; nor would they understand ever however hard you try to elaborate with a language the people speak.

    Awaiting eagerly to have a glimpse of that worthless Arabic.

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      Otherwise if you say your article has no relevance to Quran, I have nothing to write here; you can let your imagination and graphics galore.

      Mr Fazl are you out to make mischief?

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        Shalom Aleikhem,

        Mr Fazl are you out to make mischief?

        I think what Fazl pointed out makes sense. You can not expect people to go through thousands of words and page after page of material before validating the premise. Your case rests upon the two verses that you didn't bother clarifying or exploring.

        P.S They have nothing to do with the "Big Bang" anyway.

        Peace
        ----------- Student of Allah

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          Shalom Aleikhem,

          I think what Fazl pointed out makes sense. You can not expect people to go through thousands of words and page after page of material before validating the premise. Your case rests upon the two verses that you didn't bother clarifying or exploring.

          P.S They have nothing to do with the "Big Bang" anyway.

          Peace
          ----------- Student of Allah

          +salaam

          I am referring to this statement of his and I quote,

          Otherwise if you say your article has no relevance to Quran,

          Did I say that?

          Here is just one statement that I made,

          Before we can embark on this simple quest to see whether or not the Qur'aan contains a satisfactory and complete explanation for the existence and workings of the universe, we need first have to present from the Qur'aan itself the relevant Qur'aanic verses for analysis.

          Something is wrong somewhere and it is surely not with me. Why do you not examine the articles critically instead of just making up things?

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            Mr Fazl are you out to make mischief?

            Mr Amiyr, let us be reminded of the ayat and may He guide us

            1. When it is said to them "Make not mischief on the earth," they say "Why, we only Want to make peace!"
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              Mr Amiyr, let us be reminded of the ayat and may He guide us

              1. When it is said to them "Make not mischief on the earth," they say "Why, we only Want to make peace!"

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                continued from Post 004 #13

                Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

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                Let us now present the first of the two Qur?aan Cosmological Model (QCM) verses from the real Qur'aan- meaning the one in the Arabic language that ALLAAH revealed to the Prophet (S+) about one thousand four hundred years ago. Let us begin with the the exposition!

                Here is the Arabic text of the first Qur?aan Cosmological Model verse with transliteration.Don't be dismayed if you cannot read the Arabic because it is the transliteration which we will be using here for our exposition.

                Qur?aan 02130

                transliteration

                ?a-wa-lam yara lladhiyna kafaruw

                ?anna as-samaawaati wa-l-?arDa kaanataa Ratqan

                fa-Fataq-naa humaa

                wa-ja?al-naa min al-maa?i kulla shay?in hayyin

                ?a-fa-laa yu?minuwna

                Here is presented the most accurate translation of the verse -though by no means near perfect. I have not translated the key words because they are technical terms in their own right and cannot be translated without grave loss of the original. I will select and explain each of them adequately with proofs from the Qur'aan itself as well as from the authoritative Arabic dictionaries.

                The translation

                Have those who have disbelieved now not seen-

                that the samaawaat and the ?arD

                (1)- were both Ratq

                (2)- and so We Fataq them both again.

                And We made from water every living thing.

                Will they now not believe?

                This verse contains an encyclopedia of information of which I will touch upon only the cosmological aspects. And to do that I will simply extract the parts of the verse that I have already colored in.

                that the samaawaat and the ?arD

                (1)- were both Ratqan

                (2)- and so We Fataq them both again.

                What is the verse actually saying. When we read it at face value we see that it speaks about how ALLAAH (God) brought about the creation of the universe we happen to find ourselves living in. This earth upon which we live, the sun and the moon and the stars, and everything else that the universe contains.
                Let us go over it again exactly as it is written.

                ALLAAH says,

                "that the samaawaat and the ?arD

                (1)- were both Ratqan

                (2)- and so We Fataq them both again."

                I would like you to repeat the verse (if you do not know it already) at least three times so that you can become familiar with those four untranslated technical terms of which I have already said cannot be translated without grave lost of the original.
                The problem is that when scholars think that they can translate these technical terms of the Qur'aan into English or for that matter into any other language and they go ahead and then begin to do so they effectively make the Qur'aan completely dysfunctional. Then people who have no understanding of what the original is saying begin to read and study it and start making all kinds of proclamations as to what the Qur'aan is really saying. Thus they have not only begun to misled themselves but all others who follow them.

                To be continued (the explanation of the four Qur'aanic Cosmological Model Technical Terms (QCMTT).

                Post 006 continued in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                  1. When it is said to them "Make not mischief on the earth," they say "Why, we only Want to make peace!"

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                  Thanks for acceptance. Now you can create as much mischief as you want.

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                    continued from Post 005 #13

                    Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                    The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                    This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

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                    The four technical terms are-

                    • the samaawaat
                    • the arD
                    • Ratq
                    • Fataq

                    The definite article al the I have translated as 'the samaawaat' and not 'al-samaawaat'; and 'the arD' and not 'al-arD'. You would have noticed that I have written arD' with a capital D instead of with a small d. The reason for this is that there are two ds in the Arabic language- one pronounced at the tip of the tongue like the d in the English word did and the other pronounced with the tongue against the roof of the mouth and similar to the D in the English word Dark but even more emphatic. It is said that the Arabic language is the only language which contains this letter or sound. In fact almost all Muslims mispronounce this emphatic D and thus destroy the Quraan with their tongues - without realizing it - because every letter of the Quraan is a multi-dimensional space-time configuration.
                    The Jews have done the same thing with the letters of the Torah which are also all multi-dimensional space-time configurations. The Christians have no part in this science because they have completely discarded the alphabet of the Bible and opted to translate and read the Holy Book in other alphabets and languages.
                    For example, the letter M called MiyM in Arabic and Mem in Hebrew are the symbols for the mathematical equation of a circle x^2 + y^2 = r^2. This is what is referred to as the knowledge that is contained in all the Divine Books. If this knowledge is lost then virtually everything becomes lost. The Divine Books would then become interpretations of infinite duration- like it is now.

                    Let us look at the technical term samaawaat
                    samaawaat is the plural of the Arabic word samaa. If we were to open an Arabic-English dictionary like that of Edward William Lane which was published from 1863 and completed in 1893, (the Arabic letters d dh r and z) and 1877 (the Arabic letters gh and f), and regarded as one of the greatest dictionaries of all time, we will find the following definitions or explanations.

                    As a verb

                    • he or it was, or became, high, lofty, raised, upraised, uplifted, upreared, exalted, or elevated.
                    • he or it rose, or rose high.
                    • he or it rose higher or above.

                    As a noun
                    -the higher, or upper, or highest, or uppermost, part of anything.
                    -the sky, or heavens.

                    Let us look at the technical termarD.
                    As a verb

                    • he or it became lowly or submissive.
                    • he or it became or rendered heavy, slow, sluggish, inclining, or propending, to the ground.
                      -it collected moisture, and became luxuriant with herbage
                      -it became soft to tread upon, pleasant to sit upon, productive, and good in its herbage or vegetation.
                      -the ulcer, or sore, became blistered, and wide, and corrupt, and dissundered.

                    As a noun
                    With the definite article the

                    • the earth as opposed to heaven.
                      -the ground, as meaning the surface of the earth, on which we tread and sit and lie.
                      -the floor

                    Without the definite article the

                    • a land, or a country.
                    • a piece of land or ground.
                    • anything that is low.

                    Let us look at the technical term - Ratqan.
                    From the verb Rataqa

                    • he closed up.
                    • he sewed up, or together.

                    As the noun - Ratq

                    • closed up.
                    • sewn up.

                    Let us look at the technical term - Fataq.
                    From the verb - Fataqa

                    • he slit it, rent it, rent it asunder or open, or divided it lengthwise.
                    • he disjoined it, or disunited it
                    • he undid the sewing of it, unsewed it, or unstitched it
                      (- became swollen, or inflated, in the flanks.
                    • appeared after concealment.)

                    As the noun -Fatq

                    • a rent, slit, or the like.
                    • an open, and a spacious, place.

                    There we have the meanings of the four technical terms; as verbs as well as nouns.
                    We are now getting closer to the formation of the Quraan Cosmological Model. After that the QCM will start to come alive.
                    Have again another good look at the Quraan Cosmological Model below. Can you begin to recognize where we are in the Model.

                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QCM.1.png

                    Post 007 continued in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                      ...Here is presented the most accurate translation of the verse -though by no means near perfect. I have not translated the key words because they are technical terms in their own right and cannot be translated without grave loss of the original. I will select and explain each of them adequately with proofs from the Qur'aan itself as well as from the authoritative Arabic dictionaries.

                      The translation

                      Have those who have disbelieved now not seen-

                      that the samaawaat and the ?arD

                      (1)- were both Ratq

                      (2)- and so We Fataq them both again.

                      And We made from water every living thing.

                      Will they now not believe?...

                      Highlights above are from me.

                      Dear al-amiyr,

                      There is a major mistranslation of the verse 2130 on your part. You need to remove the word "again" from your translation in order to make it more accurate. If I were you I'd do that before continuing the thread further.

                      Peace,
                      Khalil

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                        Highlights above are from me.

                        Dear al-amiyr,

                        There is a major mistranslation of the verse 2130 on your part. You need to remove the word "again" from your translation in order to make it more accurate. If I were you I'd do that before continuing the thread further.

                        Peace,
                        Khalil

                        +salaam kgwithnob

                        Yes! You are 100% correct! (And it was my intention to put it into parenthesis). As a word for word translation it is incorrect but from a meaning translation it is perfectly correct. Arabic and English do not exactly correspond. For example one would say in Arabic

                        Haadhaa kitaabun = This is a book. In Arabic there is no copula 'is'. It is understood from the context so we translate it because it would not make sense in English.

                        Also translating it with the word 'again' has major implications across many fields. Hence for now I will remove the 'again' even though it makes no difference as to what the verse is really saying. I am also aware of your point of view on the matter which you elaborated some time back and upon which I have not yet responded.

                        I hope to discuss this matter further on in the discussion as I promised you back a few months ago inshaa ALLAAH.

                        +salaam

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                          continued from Post 006 #15

                          Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                          The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                          This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

                          Post 007

                          Must be read from previous posts

                          Let us look again at the first Qur'aan Cosmological Model (QCM) verse that I have already presented and which we are now going to analyze via the meaning and definitions of its four technical terms.

                          Be reminded that these four Qur'aan Cosmological Model (QCM) technical terms that have already been explained earlier are all found in the Arabic - English Lexicon by Dr Edward William Lane. This Arabic - English Lexicon of Dr Edward William Lane is the greatest, on many levels, Arabic - English dictionary ever produced in the English language and to a great extent contains the entire Classical Arabic Language upon which the Qur'aan is based. Dr Edward William Lane was called, in his lifetime, the master of the Arabic Language. His dictionary is a work of breathless achievement - one of the greatest heights of accomplishment that a scholar could attain to the maximum of precise detail. I present to you the publishers note for further elaboration.

                          "Edward William Lane's ARABIC - ENGLISH LEXICON Book 1 contains all the classical words, their derivatives, and their usages. It appears in eight separate volumes and took the author more than thirty years to compile.

                          Book II, which Dr. Lane contemplated and which was to contain rare words and explanations, was incomplete at the time of his death in 1876 and therefore never appeared."

                          In describing Lane?s Lexicon, Dr. G. P. Badger wrote,
                          ?This marvelous work in its fullness and richness, its deep research correctness and simplicity of arrangement far transcends the Lexicon of any language ever presented to the world.?

                          And as Dr. Edward William Lane himself sets it out on the face page of his great dictionary,
                          ?Containing all the classical words and significations commonly known to the learned among the Arabs.?

                          For this reason I shall use this great lexicon which was mostly completed by 1876 (53 years before the discovery of the expansion of the universe by Edwin Hubble in 1929 that mightily changed our perception of the universe) for the explanation of the Qur'aan Cosmological Model Technical Terms (QCMTT). By doing this one cannot be accused of 'wangling' the words of the Qur'aan to fit up with what scientists have discovered only may years later.

                          And those Arabic words presented by Dr Edward William Lane are non other than the very Arabic words which he had selected from the great Arabic dictionaries that go back up to a thousand years earlier and that ultimately get traced back to the tongue of the Messenger of ALLAAH (S+) to whom the Qur'aan was revealed.

                          In posts to follow we shall begin to analyze the Qur'aan Cosmological Model Technical Terms (QCMTT) we have mentioned, present their geometrical mathematical delineations, extrapolate their mathematical equations and so forth.

                          Post 008 continued in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                            continued from Post 007 #18

                            Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                            The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                            This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

                            Post 008

                            Must be read from previous posts

                            I hope that you have read all the previous posts. If you did not then it would be difficult for you to follow and I would not be able to answer any of your questions which you may have.

                            We are now coming very close to seeing the visual presentation of the Qur'aan Cosmological Model extrapolated from the two Qur'aan Cosmological Model verses. Therefore let us now again here present the first Qur'aan Cosmological Model verse and then analyze it but this time via the meaning and definitions of its four technical terms as found in the great Arabic - English dictionary as compiled by Dr Edward William Lane over 50 years prior to the discovery of the expansion of the universe by Edwin Hubble in 1929.

                            First QCM Verse 021030

                            Have those who have disbelieved now not seen-

                            that the samaawaat and the ?arD

                            (1)- were both Ratq

                            (2)- and so We Fataq them both (again).

                            And We made from water every living thing.

                            Will they now not believe?

                            The Qur'aan is a divine book that addresses humanity throughout time.Therefore certain passages are not always clear to those who do not understand this important principal. The first QCM verse is one of those time event verses that will only become fully understood and appreciated after the subject of its statement has become known. This is not because the Qur'aan is not clear on the matter but because the nature of man is that he will not accept that which he has physically not seen or proven - one of the great qualities of man if one removes any type of belief from his personality. Another quality of man is that he likes to conform with 'what is' and dislikes to be disturbed from his perceived comfort zones even if they might turn out to be wrong - one of the bad qualities of man.

                            If we look at the first QCM verse we see that it is a definite statement made about something and framed into a question that demands reflection and an answer. A reflection and an answer that could never have made sense to anyone prior to 1929 when it was discovered that the universe was expanding and by implication had to originate from some point back in time. Therefore it is a verse that most appropriately applies to our generation and our generation only. What a great honour and a concern that must be. For if it is like that then we must ask why we are the ones being addressed? What is the purpose of it all?

                            Let us look at and ponder over the question! We observe that ALLAAH (God) the Originator of the Heavens and the Earth (i.e. the Universe) addresses a group of people whom He calls 'those who have disbelieved'. He asks them via the believers the following question, " Have you now not seen?" And what is it that ALLAAH asks them what they have now not seen? He says,

                            that the samaawaat and the ?arD

                            (1)- were both Ratq

                            (2)- and so We Fataq them both (again).

                            And what is the samaawaat and what is the ?arD that He describes were both once upon a time Ratq and that He then did Fataq them both.
                            In the next post we shall analyze the two important Qur'aan Cosmological Model technical terms 'samaawaat' and 'arD' and as we have already said but this time via the meaning and definitions as found in the great Arabic - English dictionary compiled by Dr Edward William Lane over 5o years prior to the discovery of the expansion of the universe by Edwin Hubble in 1929.
                            We will also (in posts to follow) have a look at who the exact people are whom are being addressed in the Qur'aan.

                            Post 009 continued in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                              continued from Post 008 #19

                              Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                              The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                              This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

                              Post 009

                              Must be read from previous posts

                              Defining samaa? (singular of samaawaat) the first important Qur'aan Cosmological Model technical term.

                              It is sometimes important just to repeat certain keywords or phrases in order to become familiar with the concepts involved. There must be understanding and not just casual reading. It is always good for you to revise or go over the previous posts. You will be amazed how much you have missed before and how much you would have gained from a second, a third and so forth repeated reading.

                              Let us now analyze the two important Qur'aan Cosmological Model technical terms 'samaawaat' and '?arD' as found in the great Arabic - English dictionary compiled by Edward William Lane over 50 years prior to the discovery of the expansion of the universe by Edwin Hubble in 1929.

                              What is the samaawaat?

                              As it has been said before ?samaawaat? is the plural of the Arabic word ?samaa?? and is derived from the Arabic root verb meaning

                              • he or it was, or became, high, lofty, raised, upraised, uplifted, upreared, exalted, or elevated.
                              • he or it rose, or rose high.
                              • he or it rose higher or above.

                              As a noun it has the following meanings

                              • the higher, or upper, or highest, or uppermost, part of anything.
                              • the sky, or heavens.

                              Let us analyze the meaning of the word ?samaa?? which is the singular of 'samaawaat'.

                              When we study the Qur'aan we will see that the word ?samaa?? and its plural 'samaawaat' occurs about about 310 times in the Qur'aan. When these verses are studied it will be seen that the word ?samaa?? is not an object but refers to the open space that surrounds the objects of the universe or in other words it is the depiction of the vast space in which all the elements of the universe find itself including the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars. It refers to that part of the Universe in which motion and 'clumpiness' take place. Here is a verse of the Qur'aan that gives us that depiction

                              The Qur'aan 2218
                              "...that unto ALLAAH bow down whoever is in the samaawaat... and the Sun, and the Moon, and the Stars..."

                              The Qur'aan also gives other descriptions for various types of samaa' such as for example that part immediately above the earth where the birds fly.

                              The Qur'aan 1679
                              "... the birds that are subjected to the jaww (the air or atmosphere) of the samaa?."

                              The Qur'aan 4111
                              Another verse which we shall not go into here for now says that 'The samaa' was in a certain 'smoke' state and ALLAAH caused it to undergo a state of obedience and then He completed it as seven samaawaat (plural of samaa?). We are told that the seven samaawaat are like enormous spheres one beyond the other and that our position is in the lowest of the samaawaat and is callad the samaa? of the dunyaa (world or lower world).

                              The Qur'aan contrasts samaa? with ?arD which are two opposing but complementary states of the universe Space versus Matter. One inherently expansive and the other inherently contractive.

                              In the next post I shall define the Qur'aan Cosmological Model technical term '?arD' as found in the great Arabic - English dictionary compiled by Edward William Lane over 50 years prior to the discovery of the expansion of the universe by Edwin Hubble in 1929. After that, we shall begin with the construction of the Qur'aan Cosmological Model.

                              Below is a graphical illustration for the Qur'aan Cosmological Model Technical Term samaa' (singular of samaawaat).

                              http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QCMdefs.png

                              Post 010 continued in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

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                                continued from Post 009 #20

                                Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                                The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                                This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

                                Post 010

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                                Defining 'arD the second important Qur'aan Cosmological Model Technical Term (QCMTT).

                                Let us now analyze and define the second important Qur'aan Cosmological Model Technical Term arD as it is found in the great Arabic - English dictionary compiled byDr Edward William Lane over 50 years prior to the discovery of the expansion of the universe by Edwin Hubble in 1929.

                                What is the arD?

                                As it has been said before arD is derived from the Arabic root verb meaning

                                • he or it became lowly or submissive.
                                • he or it became or rendered heavy, slow, sluggish, inclining, or propending, to the ground.
                                • it collected moisture, and became luxuriant with herbage
                                • it became soft to tread upon, pleasant to sit upon, productive, and good in its herbage or vegetation.
                                • the ulcer, or sore, became blistered, and wide, and corrupt, and dissundered.

                                As a noun

                                With the definite article the it has the following meanings

                                • the earth as opposed to heaven.
                                • the ground, as meaning the surface of the earth, on which we tread and sit and lie.
                                • the floor

                                without the definite article the it has the following meanings

                                • a land, or a country.
                                • a piece of land or ground.
                                • anything that is low.

                                Let us analyze the meaning of the word arD from the given definitions and present some statements from the Qur'aan.
                                When we study the Qur'aan we will see that the wordarD appears about 461 times in the Qur'aan. When these verses are studied it will be seen that the word arD is representative of an object that is surrounded by space or embedded in space or occupying space. It will further also be seen that the word arD has a number of meanings which adequately describe a range of phenomena

                                • from the stuff of which one's body is composed of;
                                • from the soil one can keep in one's hand;
                                • the plot of ground one lives upon;
                                • the land one lives in; the continent one is associated with;
                                • the planet one lives on;
                                • and all other planets and objects that clump and occupy space throughout the entire universe as well as all the mass of the universe when brought back together again as one entity called Ratq .

                                From here it will be seen that the term arD in addition to being an object occupying space is also the substance of which the physical object consists of. And above all it is the name of the unique planet called the 'arD (the Earth) where ALLAAH (GOD) let man (and woman) dwell to work the good work; then earn his (or her) reward; and then afterwards to be taken to the world of His Mercy and Promise before His Anger is unleashed over billions of years and the universe comes crushing down upon itself and upon all those who were left behind and denied the plea for the mercy to die. That is what is written in the Qur'aan.

                                The Qur'aan also says that the Earth has similarities to the seven samaawaat.There are the continents that are spreading apart like the expansion and there are the layers of the earth like the structure of the seven samaawaat. There are more similarities that can be discussed but they are not part of this presentation which is to prove our main point of the thread.

                                The Qur'aan 6512
                                "It is ALLAAH (God) who created the seven samaawaat, and of the arD their like, between them the Command descending, that you may know that ALLAAH (God) is powerful over everything and that ALLAAH (God) encompasses everything in knowledge."

                                As we said before the Qur'aan contrasts arD with samaa which are two opposing but complementary states of the universe Matter verses Space- one inherently contractive and the other inherently expansive.

                                Below is a display of graphical illustrations for the Qur'aan Cosmological Model Technical Term 'arD

                                http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QCMdefa1.png

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                                  Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                                  The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                                  This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

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                                  We have reached the point in this expatiation of The Qur'aan Cosmological Model that we can begin to penetrate deeply into its depths. Up to this point I have attempted to make known that the Qur'aan does contain a comprehensive explanation for the existence of the universe.

                                  As I said in a previous post
                                  The Qur?aan Cosmological Model is a mathematical and graphical presentation of the origin, evolution, and ultimate fate of the current universe as it is contained in just two verses of the Qur?aan. These two verses provide us with the key words that describe the general evolution of the universe.

                                  Khalq = (Tayy +Ratq +Fatq) +2(Tayy +Ratq +Fatq).

                                  A near example in English
                                  Creation = (Turn in +Rotate + Fire out) +2(Turn in +Rotate +Fire out).(an example and not the actual translation)

                                  The initial letters of these key words produce the following algorithmic compression;

                                  Kh = (T +R +F) +2(T +R +F)

                                  Arabic is a language based on what we call root letters. From these root letters the entire language is built up. They are all consonants which are formed into patterns of two, three, or four letters to form the fundamental past tense verbs. The Arabic language has 28 consonants and a special letter we call laam ?alif. There are also only three vowels and vowel signs in the language which can be either short or long and when used are written either above or below the consonants to produce the words and in this case the root letters which are all verbs in the third person past tense. Don?t worry about all the details at this stage because they will all be wonderfully and easily explained as we go along and then everything will become well and easily understood.

                                  It will be seen that when we run the Qur?aanic Cosmological Model Algorithmic Compression (QCMAC)

                                  Kh = (T +R +F) +2(T +R +F)

                                  through the fundamental structure of the Arabic language then we witness a magnificent display of verbs, nouns, and adjectives that go back to describe each and every phase of the universe at its exact time and place in great detail.
                                  We are presented without exaggeration hundreds of beautiful drawings of the phases the universe underwent or will undergo from its origin, through its evolution, and until its eventual end.
                                  And upon that we also see the derivation of many simple and logical abbreviations that precisely describe each and every phase of the universe. And then further beyond that we realize and see how the actions of the universe drive life into the dead and empty of meaning fundamental building blocks of the language- which are all the fundamental verbal patterns (The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model (QLM)) from which are derived the words of the language.
                                  That in a nutshell is the Qur?aan Cosmological Model (QCM).

                                  Have a good look at the illustrations on the chart below Fig.001 Ratq-Fa-Fatq.
                                  Don't miss out at this point. I will from time to time refer to previous posts that I have prepared to make our journey easy as we arrive at the steps to enter The Greatest Cosmological Model. Remember that this so far is still only the less than one percent of The Qur'aan Cosmological Model.

                                  http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QCMfig001Ratq-Fa-Fatq.png

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                                    Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                                    The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                                    This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

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                                    Let us now go forth to draw the first Space-Time diagram based upon the data extrapolated from the first Qur'aan Cosmological Model verse.

                                    Qur'aan 021030

                                    that the samaawaat and the arD
                                    (1)- were both Ratqan
                                    (2)- and so We Fataq them both (again).

                                    As we have already seen that when the Qur'aan speaks about the samaawaat, then it refers to the whole realm of extraterrestrial space and everything it contains. So the data that we derive from the Qur'aan is that the Sun, the Moon, the Stars, the Galaxies, the Galactic Clusters, etc. and the Earth ('arD) were once a united mass that had collapsed from a previously separated state.

                                    According to the data contained in the second Qur'aan Cosmological Model verse, which we shall analyze in a later post, this previously collapsed state was the result of a previously expanded universe that was brought down by ALLAAH in a spiraling formation that caused it to possess angular momentum. When it reached the state of maximum singular combination, with internal and external void, ALLAAH split the powerful rotating single entity apart and then blew into it the breath of life that cause it to undergo the great expansion that we have observed today.

                                    According to the Qur'aan, the universe did not originate from a big bang singularity. It began when the small and large 'burnt out' particles of the previously expanded and close to flat universe were brought into willing submission to be re-energized and rejuvenated to become a new creation.

                                    The Qur'aan calls this a single Khalq or Creation - a collapse followed by an expansion and not an expansion followed by a collapse. See the delineation below.

                                    The Qur'aan also states that the inner universe is in the state of run away expansion.This run away expansion is the result of the gravitational attractions of the outer decelerating universe which would eventually reached a point of maximum expansion when it shall be halted by ALLAAH and when shall be The Final Hour which none shall be able to calculate or rather know other than Him and Him only.

                                    http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QCM.fig.002.png

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                                      Subject The Quran and Cosmology
                                      The Qur'aan Cosmological Model - a delineation of the origin, evolution and final fate of the Universe as it is contained in the Qur'aan.

                                      This thread would contain the continuation of what the previous thread did not contain inshaa ALLAAH

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                                      Meaning of Ratq

                                      Now the word Ratq comes from the Arabic root word Rataqa.
                                      In Arabic there are only three short vowels a, i and u and which can be lengthened to aa and iy and uw.
                                      There are 28 consonants representing exactly 28 sounds and there are no deviations from this rule. Arabic differs from English in many ways but, like correct Hebrew, is based on Root Letters which are the consonants of the simplest form of the verbs of the past tense.
                                      Over 80% of the spoken Arabic are based on the following pattern

                                      Xa X- Xa (meaning X = any consonant e.g. (b s m l r t q etc.). The dash (-) = any of the three short vowels a i u)
                                      If I substitute L for X then
                                      Xa X- Xa = LaLaLa or = LaLiLa or = LaLuLa

                                      All of those are verbs of the past tense. There are only five basic verbal patterns. These verbal patterns change according to rules to become the entire language. That is why I have started The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model thread to explain this structure of Arabic. It takes about 15 minutes to understand.

                                      Have a look at The Qur'aan Lexicographical Model Verbal Word Program below. I have already started explaining it in that thread ( click here http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604757.msg315445#msg315445). Do not be dismayed if it is not fully grasped now. If you applied the above rules then there will be no problem for you to work it out. It is just like a lovely puzzle. I have taught it to many five year olds and they grasped it easily. Remember the X = any consonant. a = a ; i = i ; u = u and the dash (-) = a or i or u.

                                      If you want to give it a go for now just fill (replace the Xs with consonants) in the sections that are numbered from 1 - 5.

                                      The Program that generates all the Arabic Root Verbs. Read the notes below.
                                      http//www.theholytablemountain.net/LexmodVerbProgram.png

                                      In the next post, I shall further elaborate on Ratq and its verbal root Rataqa.

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                                        Salam ;

                                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Or0TP8B5wM

                                        This is a Video for people interested to the subject for further investigation , it's a Video reply by member stopS found it on Youtube while i was doing some research , his name in Youtube is Stopspaming , you can see too his other video related .

                                        A background about his debate and discussion regarding the subject .

                                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604738.0

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