The Qur'aan Mathematical Model: Part One- The Tools of Knowledge

cleanfox5982

Salam all ;

Your posts in that model will lighten some critical debated topic during centuries since greec thinkers in what is known in Ilm al-Kalm (Arabic , literally "discourse") ( http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilm_al-Kalam ) as

1- The theory of atomisme ( the portion or the molecule source of everything or the first indivisible portion ) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

against

2-the theory of Infinite divisibility ( the atoms or molecules get divided infinitely) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_divisibility

Now of course in your posts you are describing that with what people consider as letters , which i refer to them in my posts as sounds , and which the qur'an refer as signs / ayat . So followers of this thread should make the connection and understood what is known in physics as molecules or atoms as what al-amiyr is referring to as letters .

You are about putting light on the connection between arithmetic and geometry which will solve the puzzle of the debate between who believe in The theory of atomisme and those who believe in the theory of Infinite divisibility

Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was the first one to highlight that the theory of The theory of atomisme will lead to the unification between arithmetic and geometry , even though he was one of the famous thinkers who rejected the concept of The theory of atomisme in the favor of the theory of Infinite divisibility , i always thought Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was wrong in this .

The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

What do you think brother ?

Observer

unknownuser

Salaam al-amyr

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to infinity <--- + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ---> to infinity

The Lord brings about centralization within the all infinite and the all infinite becomes divided into two
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM3.png

The numbers are divided into groups of ten and the decimal system comes into operation.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM2.png

While I try understand your knowledge, I stuck on this.Can you explain more in detail??

ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - GOD

As I know Allah=YHWH in Hebrew. Yod in Hebrew same with alif in Arabic.

Peace

al-amiyr

Salam all ;

Your posts in that model will lighten some critical debated topic during centuries since greec thinkers in what is known in Ilm al-Kalm (Arabic , literally "discourse") ( http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilm_al-Kalam ) as

1- The theory of atomisme ( the portion or the molecule source of everything or the first indivisible portion ) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomism

against

2-the theory of Infinite divisibility ( the atoms or molecules get divided infinitely) http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_divisibility

Now of course in your posts you are describing that with what people consider as letters , which i refer to them in my posts as sounds , and which the qur'an refer as signs / ayat . So followers of this thread should make the connection and understood what is known in physics as molecules or atoms as what al-amiyr is referring to as letters .

You are about putting light on the connection between arithmetic and geometry which will solve the puzzle of the debate between who believe in The theory of atomisme and those who believe in the theory of Infinite divisibility

Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was the first one to highlight that the theory of The theory of atomisme will lead to the unification between arithmetic and geometry , even though he was one of the famous thinkers who rejected the concept of The theory of atomisme in the favor of the theory of Infinite divisibility , i always thought Averroes " Ibn Roshd " was wrong in this .

The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

What do you think brother ?

Observer

+salaam brother Alkitab

You often raise important points and look into matters where many do not look- a sign of a constant seeker of knowledge. As we go along in this thread we are going to witness wonders of numbers and their interactions never presented to the world before.

I am very happy with your important insertions. They open the minds of many who are not aware of the ancient debates. Follow and contribute to this thread with gusto! I am sure from it shall arise many interesting discussions inshaa ALLAAH

+salaam

al-amiyr

Salaam al-amyr
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to infinity <--- + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ---> to infinity

The Lord brings about centralization within the all infinite and the all infinite becomes divided into two
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM3.png

The numbers are divided into groups of ten and the decimal system comes into operation.
http//www.theholytablemountain.net/QMM2.png

While I try understand your knowledge, I stuck on this.Can you explain more in detail??

As I know Allah=YHWH in Hebrew. Yod in Hebrew same with alif in Arabic.

Peace

+salaam brother Earthdom

In the next two or three posts they will be made clearer. Can you tell me more exactly what you do not understand so that I can concentrate on that as well inshaa ALLAAH.

+salaam

al-amiyr

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The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

Part One
The Tools of Knowledge
( &#1616

The Qur'aan 08901-05

01- And/by the dawn
02- And/by the ten nights
03- And/by the even and the odd
04- And/by the night when it passes away
05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 3)

When ALLAAH brought forth the centralization of the numbers - the equally spaced divisions of the infinite- they became exact place holders - representatives of an exact distance and quantity and thus imbued with individuality and identification.

ALLAAH looked at the numbers which He had individualized and knew all their identities

There is a number whose individual units would take less than a second of time to say like the number
one or one = 1

a number whose individual units would take about a second of time to say like the number
one two or twelve = 12

a number whose individual units would take more than a second of time to say like the number
one two three or one hundred and twenty- three = 123

whose individual units would take about a minute of time to say like the number
123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404142434445464748495051525354555657585960616263646566676869707172737475767778798081828384858687888990919293949596979899100

whose individual units will take over one full day to say

whose individual units will take over a full year to say

whose individual units will take thousands (1000s)

and
millions (1000 000s)

and
billions (1000 000 000s)

and
trillions (1000 000 000 000s)

and
quadrillions (1000 000 000 000 000s)

and
quintillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000s)

and
sextillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

and
septillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

and
octillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

and
nonillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

and
dectillions (1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

and
centillions
(1000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000s)

of
years to say and then that would only be but one number on the number line that ALLAAH brought into existence.

And ALLAAH knew
each number's exact location, its specific properties and therefore its full identity.

ALLAAH looked and saw what he had known that of all the numbers that he had conceptualized, that the number called one represented his qualities and attributes.

Like-

He is the One
He is the Absolute
He multiplies not
Nor is He a division of any.
And
In the entirety there is like him not one.

So-

The number one is the One
It is Absolute
It multiplies not (1x1 =1)
Nor does it divide (1/1 =1)
And in the entirety of the number line there is no number like one.

I leave you to reflect over or investigate for now the follow mathematical concepts

1- odd numbers
2- even numbers
3- prime numbers
4- composite numbers

The Qur'aan 01993-95

There is none in the heavens or the earth but comes to the All Merciful as a servant;
He has already numbered them and numbered them by number,
and they are all coming to Him on the resurrection day singly.

The Qur'aan 003007

And everything We have numbered in a Book (kitaab).

Post 5 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

.

cleanfox5982

The question is what is the logical connection between arithmetic and geometry ? the answer in my opinion will resolve the debated topic.

What do you think brother ?

Observer

Salam Brother ,

I saw one of the key of possible logical connection , it's about a record isn't ?

Recording mathematically or arithmetically the geometrical events happening in space time .

Hint The pool

al-amiyr

Salam Brother ,

I saw one of the key of possible logical connection , it's about a record isn't ?

Recording mathematically or arithmetically the geometrical events happening in space time .

Hint The pool

+salaam brother Alkitab

"A small hint from the book (al-kitaab) a giant understanding for Alkitab"

+salaam

al-amiyr

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The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

Part One
The Tools of Knowledge
( &#1616

The Qur'aan 08901-05

01- And/by the dawn
02- And/by the ten nights
03- And/by the even and the odd
04- And/by the night when it passes away
05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 4)

ALLAAH knew the numbers and He knew that they had all their own specific identities. And of all the numbers that ALLAAH loved most was the numbers called the prime numbers because these were the numbers that could only be divided by themselves and the number called one and which is a representative of himself.

In other words these prime numbers are not like any of the other numbers which are called composite numbers because they are not associated with any other number than the number called one and which represents ALLAAH.

Here is a graphical display of the prime numbers verses the composite numbers.

Have a look at the following information about prime numbers. They are important to the understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Recitation/Reading (al-Qur'aan).

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/PNdes.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

You would have observed that the numbers form three groups.

1- The one 'group' of only one number wherein no other number exists but only the one.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

2- The group of numbers called prime numbers that can only be divided by itself and one. All these numbers can be presented as a circle surrounding a point or a dot. The only difference is that these circles are further apart as the numbers appear further in the number line. Here are the examples 2 3 5 7.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

2- The group of numbers called composite numbers that can be divided not only by itself and one but by other numbers as well. These numbers can be presented as concentric circles surrounding a point or a dot. Here are the examples 4 6 8 9.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

As we go deeper into the number line we will observe that the prime numbers get all less and less. From ten onwards all the numbers that end in a 0 2 4 5 6 and an 8 are all composite numbers i.e. not prime. In other words all the even numbers from ten onwards are composite. That is already 50% of the whole number line. Then also all the odd numbers ending in a five are composite. That is another 10% of all the numbers. From this information we can already see that 60% of all numbers are composite without having to do any calculations to see if they are prime or composite.

There is no known rule to calculate which numbers are prime. They must all be investigated to see if they are prime or not. All numbers greater than ten that ends in a 1 3 7 and a 9 needs to be calculated to see if they are prime or not. Up until today computers have calculated prime numbers with digits many tens of kilometers long and still calculating and recording.

Remember that the main aim of this section of the thread is to answer why we use the decimal system of counting so that we can understand why ALLAAH has presented the Qur'aan in the decimal counting system. Let us continue!

The first single digits (1-9) are exactly 50% prime and 50% composite.

The double digit numbers (1-99) are about 25% prime and 75% composite.

The triple digit numbers (1-999) are about 17% prime and 83% composite.

The quadruple digit numbers (1-9 999) are about 12% prime and 88% composite.

The quintuple digit numbers (1-99 999) are about 9.6% prime and 90.4% composite.

As you will see the prime numbers get less and less and less as one goes further and further into the number line. And they also get further and further apart from each other. The prime numbers get so isolated that one will find one prime number surrounded by hundreds of thousands of billions of numbers with billions of concentric circles. Can you imagine how small and insignificant the primes become in comparison to all the other numbers as one climbs higher and higher into the infinite.

Now our Lord ALLAAH knows all these numbers and he knows all their divisions and all their other properties. And as I already said that of all numbers ALLAAH chose he loved the prime numbers more than all the other numbers. And it is upon them that he laid the fundamental foundations of the world.

Why The Decimal Number Line?

1 = not prime and not composite

12 = composite

123 = composite

1234 = composite

12345 = composite

123456 = composite

1234567 = composite

12345678 = composite

123456789 = composite

1234567891 = effectively prime

There you have it. The number that creates the digits of our decimal system and upon which the Qur'aan is based is effectively a prime number. And it is therefore a number that can only be divided by itself and one.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1

And the digits on either side is the number one which represents ALLAAH and beyond which there is nothing on both sides (zero).

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 0

. . . . . . . . . . . .

The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

In posts to follow we shall discuss among others the following.

Why do we use the decimal system? (answered with further proofs coming)
Why is the circle divided into 360 degrees?
Why has the year been divided into twelve months?

Post 6 continues in a post to follow inshaa ALLAAH.

cleanfox5982

The marvel is only going to begin. You will see beauty and harmony of numbers that you have never seen in your life before and what no computer was able to explain and put together. I do not ever have to speak to you about the book (al-kitaab) again if you do not want me to. I can simply extract it out of the numbers that will bring forth the whole reality in front of your eyes. But for the sake of my lord and the prime ones I shall be patient.

In one word Magnificent !

raspberry_red

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Post 005
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The Qur'aan Mathematical Model

Part One
The Tools of Knowledge
( &#1616

The Qur'aan 08901-05

01- And/by the dawn
02- And/by the ten nights
03- And/by the even and the odd
04- And/by the night when it passes away
05- Is in that an adjuration for the one who possesses hijr?

Why do we use the decimal system? (Part 4)

ALLAAH knew the numbers and He knew that they had all their own specific identities. And of all the numbers that ALLAAH loved most was the numbers called the prime numbers because these were the numbers that could only be divided by themselves and the number called one and which is a representative of himself.

In other words these prime numbers are not like any of the other numbers which are called composite numbers because they are not associated with any other number than the number called one and which represents ALLAAH.

Here is a graphical display of the prime numbers verses the composite numbers.

Have a look at the following information about prime numbers. They are important to the understanding of the Book (al-kitaab) and the Recitation/Reading (al-Qur'aan).

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/PNdes.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P4b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P6b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P8b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P9b.png

You would have observed that the numbers form three groups.

1- The one 'group' of only one number wherein no other number exists but only the one.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P1b.png

2- The group of numbers called prime numbers that can only be divided by itself and one. All these numbers can be presented as a circle surrounding a point or a dot. The only difference is that these circles are further apart as the numbers appear further in the number line. Here are the examples 2 3 5 7.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P2b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P3b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P5b.png

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/P7b.png

3- The group of numbers called composite numbers that can be divided not only by itself and one but by other numbers as well. These numbers can be presented as concentric circles surrounding a point or a dot. Here are the examples 4 6 8 9.