How to determine Months according to Brother Noon waalqalami ?
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Salam Brother ,
Its not about being not sure or ashamed to say i don't know but you'r intervention derived my subject , even if its related .
So yes i don't know , kindly tell me and tell the members how to determine the 1st ?
Peace, I too am in process of studying the subject and not sure; 1st what exactly, heat cycle, menstrual cycle, wind cycle, etc.?
2185 shr/cycle ramadan (i.e. heat cycle or summertime) the one descended in it the Qur?an
2234 ... should wait by themselves four ashr/cycles (menstrual)
3412 and to Solomon the wind early its shr/cycle (am tide due to moon) and late its shr/cycle (pm tide)If you mean month; traditionalists chose random 1st sighting of moon crescent which rotates throughout the year.
Similarly, you used full-moon in stead of new moon, first crescent, half moon, no different than the lunar calendar.Question; if one awakes on desert island with Qur'an and hadith books if you like; how to determine 1st month?
Ayman, gets around this by starting count 1st full-moon after summer solstice counts 12, sometimes drops 13th.
Others like to use 1st full-moon after winter solstice or do pretty much the same thing, dropping occasional 13th. -
Question; if one awakes on desert island with Qur'an and hadith books if you like; how to determine 1st month?
Ayman, gets around this by starting count 1st full-moon after summer solstice counts 12, sometimes drops 13th.
Others like to use 1st full-moon after winter solstice or do pretty much the same thing, dropping occasional 13th.Salam ,
A modest opinion
Here are some hints
To determine 1st month we should determine 1st day , and to determine 1st day we should determine 1st night , as night precede the day/light in term of creation .
Here are some events that happened during this night
2829{ And when Moses had completed the term and was traveling with his family, he perceived from the direction of the mount a fire. He said to his family, "Stay here; indeed, I have perceived a fire. Perhaps I will bring you from there information or burning wood from the fire that you may warm yourselves. }
Hint Apparently it was a cold night , and Moses / Mssa (S) received the revelation this night .
731 {O you who wraps himself }
741 {O you who wrapped up (in the mantle)!}
Hint Apparently the messenger of allah was sleeping and was covering him self , which is a sign of cold weather , also surah 73 & 74 sounds that they were the first verses revealed to the messenger Muhammad (S) .
We are talking here about the prosperous night which is
443 {Indeed, We sent it down during a prosperous night. Indeed, We were to warn .}
443 { On that night is made distinct every wise affair}There was and still a misconception about the concept of prosperity al-barakah , it is a prosperous night not a blessed night , the translation is wrong and misguiding .
So Connections should be made between Cold weather + prosperous night + every wise affair . This work is thoeric , then the connection should be done with real world .
Hints
1- What is the real meaning of the concept of prosperity al-barakah which wrongly translated as blessing or blessed ?
2- What makes a night prosperous ?
3- What else is described as prosperous in the quran ?Lets study together.
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peace,
Peace, I too am in process of studying the subject and not sure; 1st what exactly, heat cycle, menstrual cycle, wind cycle, etc.?
Question; if one awakes on desert island with Qur'an and hadith books if you like; how to determine 1st month?
Ayman, gets around this by starting count 1st full-moon after summer solstice counts 12, sometimes drops 13th.
Others like to use 1st full-moon after winter solstice or do pretty much the same thing, dropping occasional 13th.I have been reading about this topic recently, but not really studying it, but in any case, it seems to me that whatever way you slice it you need some reference point.
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Peace brother Noon,
Ayman, gets around this by starting count 1st full-moon after summer solstice counts 12, sometimes drops 13th.
Others like to use 1st full-moon after winter solstice or do pretty much the same thing, dropping occasional 13th.The god gives us the marker from where to start counting. This is is given in passage 1712, which talks about knowing the number years from the day and night. The only way we can know the years based on the day and night is if we take it as the time between shortest/longest day/night since each solstice event occurs only once per year. On the other hand, we cannot use the equinoxes to count the year since equinoxes occur twice per year and it is only half a year between equinoxes.
Given the meanin of "ramadan" as "scorching" and "the time when the sand is hot and the SHADOW is PERPENDICULAR", then the summer solstice is clearly more logical than the winter solstice.
Add to this the fact that the four full moons after the summer solstice are harvest moons for most fruits and vegetables, with the biggest harvest (biggest hagg - ر being the fourth full-moon. This fourth harvest full-moon after the summer solstice also coincides precisely with Hagg Sukkot, the Jewish harvest festival where food is shared and given freely to the poor (exactly the same purpose of "hagg" in the great reading).
This is so far the best understanding that resolves the timing of "the scorching full-moon" and "the inviolable full-moons" and the timing for the feast/hagg effortlessly all in one consistent solution and connects them beautifully.
Peace,
Ayman
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peace brother Ayman,
The god gives us the marker from where to start counting. This is is given in passage 1712, which talks about knowing the number years from the day and night. The only way we can know the years based on the day and night is if we take it as the time between shortest/longest day/night since each solstice event occurs only once per year. On the other hand, we cannot use the equinoxes to count the year since equinoxes occur twice per year and it is only half a year between equinoxes.
Given the meanin of "ramadan" as "scorching" and "the time when the sand is hot and the SHADOW is PERPENDICULAR", then the summer solstice is clearly more logical than the winter solstice.
I agree that the above is reasonable.
However, I disagree with
...the biggest harvest (biggest hagg - ر being the fourth full-moon
See http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605648.0
This is so far the best understanding that resolves the timing of "the scorching full-moon" and "the inviolable full-moons" and the timing for the feast/hagg effortlessly all in one consistent solution and connects them beautifully.
What do you make of 2217, see http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9188.msg333873#msg333873
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peace brother Ayman,
However, I disagree with
See http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605648.0Salam Wakas ;
The day of greater pilgrimage is the first day of the four restricted months based on the analysis of 91 , 92 , 93 , 94 and 95
This is my analysis for comparison and convergence between us regarding when is the day of grater pilgrimage ?
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603865
**When is "the day of the greater pilgrimage" ?
The Quran tell us that pilgrimage is to be done in some known months
2197 The Pilgrimage months are made known. So whoever decides to perform the Pilgrimage therein, then there shall be no sexual approach, nor wickedness, nor baseless argument in the Pilgrimage.
The known months of pilgrimage are the four restricted months
936 The count of the months with God is twelve months in the book of God the day He created the heavens and the earth; four of them are restricted. This is the correct system; so do not wrong yourselves in them;
**The day of the greater pilgrimage is the first day of this four months , why ?
the proclamation that "allah" and his messenger are innocent from the polytheists is to be announced clearly to them in that day of greater pilgrimage , there is a declaration before that proclamation stated in the previous verses and another declaration stated after that witch indicate the location of the day of the greater pilgrimage
91 A revocation is made by God and His messenger to those with whom you have made a pledge from among the polytheists.
92 "Therefore, roam the land for four months and know that you will not escape God, and that God will humiliate the rejecters."
93 And a proclamation from God and His messenger to the people on the day of the greater Pilgrimage "That God and His messenger are innocent from the polytheists." If you repent, then it is better for you, and if you turn away, then know that you will not escape God. And give news to those who have rejected of a painful retribution.
94 Except for those with whom you had made a pledge from among the polytheists if they did not reduce anything from it nor did they support anyone against you; you shall continue the pledge with them until its expiry. God loves the righteous.
95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and they hold the contact prayer, and they contribute towards purification, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.In that day of greater pilgrimage a proclamation will be announced to the polytheists that "allah" and his messenger are innocent from them AND the polytheist shall 92 "Therefore, roam the land for four months these four months are the four known restricted months of pilgrimage 95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them.
That's mean if they roam the land for four months from the day it was announced that's mean this day is the first day of this four months , and these months are the restricted months known for pilgrimage this mean that the day of starting roaming the land for the polytheists is the day of the greater pilgrimage when this statement ( roam the land for four months ) is to be announced along with And a proclamation from God and His messenger to the people on the day of the greater Pilgrimage "That God and His messenger are innocent from the polytheists."
What makes that day a " day of greater pilgrimage" is because there will be attended by a mass of people , it seems logic as it is a sort of inauguration day .
2227 (And announce to the people the Hajj ; they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel; they will come from every distant pass )
And then of course pilgrimage can take place during all the four restricted months
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Peace!
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No need to drop 13 or make 13.
The year defined by The God is 12 lunations per solar orbital period. The degree of variation is natural and desired, desired by One Mighty in Power, Supremely Wise. Without this variation there would be no change to the day. Every day would be the same day, same weather, same crap. So thank your God that there is variation.
Rather, people must yield to The God, The Supreme, the Designer.
To reinvent the entire system to realign with the true way of Beingness. Observe your subconscious mind. "But if we do this, then the people will blah blah blah". Where does this come from?
The idea of 13 is destroying the climate, killing the creatures, absolutely murdering and ravaging the Earth. Can you hear her cries? 13 is the unlucky number, wonder why? Because 12 is Perfect.
Now we may split the seasons.
We have
12 cycles
4 seasons
2 half cycles (half-year)
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Light, Dark
True, False
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And whoever is in the heavens and the earth is His; and those who are with Him are not proud to serve Him, nor do they grow weary.
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They glorify (Him) by night and day; they are never languid.
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But nay! I swear by the Lord of the Easts and the Wests that We are certainly able
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Now I do call to witness the Lord of all points in the East and the West that We can certainly-A two dimensional circle/shadow (Night) mapped onto a 3 dimensional sphere (Earth); the circumference of Night is measurable precisely.
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http//i.imgur.com/P9kQTJg.pngFundamentally you wish to begin the calendar in intervals of half-cycles; this is a Year. Then we get the Solar Year as two Cycles/Seasons.
So we do not have "The New Year"
We do have
The first month of the Warm Season
The first month of the Cool SeasonOr we may say
The first month of the Warming Season
The first month of the Cooling SeasonThey ask thee, of new moons, say They are fixed seasons for mankind and for the pilgrimage. It is not righteousness that ye go to houses by the backs thereof (as do the idolaters at certain seasons), but the righteous man is he who wardeth off (evil). So go to houses by the gates thereof, and observe your duty to AlLah/The God/TheClearLight/TheTruth that you may be successful.
2189 - Al Baqarah (The Cow)First month of each, we have room to vary. 4 points of geometry
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Source http//thegic.org/profiles/blogs/the-autumnal-equinox-2012 (a worthy read!)So there is no need to even bother with "one year". Instead focus on half year. The Earth has two hemispheres. One Year did not ever exist and never will. However, Two Half-Years does exist.
The Geometric Universe The Platonic Forms, Hilbert Space, whatever you wish to call it - the Book of Life. All geometric. No fancy of man, the fancy of man is embedded within the geometry and certainly not the other way round. Or as Eckhart Tolle would say, "We are not what we think we are, we Are what we think"
Contemplate. Earth is a spaceship. It is moving against the backdrop of the stars and I used to curse but perhaps today I may have to swear -X. And now we shall venture into General Relativity and geodesic curvature. You already know it like the back of your hand so leave behind your excuses and use your Reason?
Due to special relativity, the half-year of the lower hemisphere of Earth is of different length to the half-year of the upper hemisphere. But the length of this depends on who is watching. One thing is always for sure, You, You are watching. Who are You?
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The idea of 13 is destroying the climate, killing the creatures, absolutely murdering and ravaging the Earth. Can you hear her cries? 13 is the unlucky number, wonder why? Because 12 is Perfect.
Now we may split the seasons.
We have
12 cycles
4 seasons
2 half cycles (half-year)
1 yearVS
6 cycles
2 seasons
Yang, YinPeace IAMOP,
13 unlucky are phobias, no 13th floor in builds or Friday 13th.
Year with 13 full moons was problematic for those in authority in charge of calendars.
13 menstrual cycles year; women ovulated together on full moon and bled during new moon.
Knights Templar Fri Oct 13, 1307 King of France ordered their arrest, tortured, and burnt some.Anyways, it?s irrelevant; one can spin it as lucky/unlucky or even find a code 13 in Quran, no big deal.
Again the question one awakes in the desert or remote island -- how to determine 1st or start count?
Likewise need to define exact meaning
shr (cycle lunar, menstrual, wind, other use context?)
ramadan (lunar/heat cycle, other?)
aam (lunar/solar year, other?)
snyn (lunar/solar years, seasons, or something else?)
snh (lunar/solar year, age, time, or something else?)
1247 said thou cultivating seven snyn/seasons as usual so what harvest you so leave it in ears its except little from what thou eating 1248 furthermore comes from after such seven severe consuming what advanced you of them except little from what thou storing 1249 furthermore comes from after such aam/year in it given relief the humankind and in it shall pressing (wine)
2914 and surely sent we Noah to folk his so waited among them thousand snh/age except fifty aama/year(s) of so seized them the flood and they were unjustly
4615 and enjoined we the human with parents his kindness carried him mother his unwillingly and gave birth him unwillingly and carried him and separation his thirty shra/cycle of until when reached peak his and reached forty snh/age said lord grant me that I thank grace yours the one blessed thou to me and on parents mine and that do work righteous of which please you and correct for me in offspring mine that I perish to you and that I from the peacemakers
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Peace be with thee,
12 is a good number.
God bless you
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12 is a good number.
Peace Man of Faith, there's nothing good or evil about any number.
Now back to the topic.
Was observing the full moon tonight and it became very clear.
It is not 12 each solar year and nowhere mentioned in Qur'an.936 surely count al-shwr/the lunar cycles near the god two ten (i.e. twelve) shra/lunar cycle of in book the god day creation the heavens and the earth from it four prohibited such the practice the value so not wrong yeh in them souls yours and fight yeh the idolaters all as what they fight you all and know yeh that the god with the righteous
105 he the one made the sun illuminate and the moon a light and calculated it (masculine i.e. moon) phases to know yeh number al-snyn/the seasons and the account not create the god such except in the truth expounds the signs for folk knowing
1712 and made we the night and the daylight two signs so erased we sign the night and made we sign the daylight visible that may seek yeh bounty from lord yours and know yeh number al-snyn/the seasons and the account and every thing explained we it detailed
The question if one awakes on remote island/desert scenario; it's simple...
Full Moon Dates 2005
Year MTH Day #
2005 Jan 25 1 date of event chosen at random; awoke on island/desert or any event birth, wedding, etc.
2005 Feb 24 2
2005 Mar 25 3
2005 Apr 24 4
2005 May 23 5
2005 Jun 22 6 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle 2185 shr/lunar cycle ramadan (heat)
2005 Jul 21 7 1 End 1st lunar cycle 2197 the hajj ashr/lunar cycles well-known
2005 Aug 19 8 2 End 2nd
2005 Sep 18 9 3 End 3rd
2005 Oct 17 10 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2005 Nov 16 11
2005 Dec 15 12Full Moon Dates 2006
Year MTH Day #
2006 Jan 14 1 1st anniversary of event; 354 days//lunar year
2006 Feb 13 2
2006 Mar 14 3
2006 Apr 13 4
2006 May 13 5
2006 Jun 11 6
]2006 Jul 11 7 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2006 Aug 9 8 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2006 Sep 7 9 2 End 2nd
2006 Oct 7 10 3 End 3rd
2006 Nov 5 11 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2006 Dec 5 12Full Moon Dates 2007
Year MTH Day #
2007 Jan 3 1 2nd anniversary of event; 728 days/2 lunar years
2007 Feb 2 2
2007 Mar 3 3
2007 Apr 2 4
2007 May 2 5
2007 Jun 1 6
]2007 Jun 30 7 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2007 Jul 30 8 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2007 Aug 28 9 2 End 2nd
2007 Sep 26 10 3 End 3rd
2007 Oct 26 11 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2007 Nov 24 12
2007 Dec 24 1 3rd anniversary of event; 1063 days/3 lunar yearsFull Moon Dates 2008
Year MTH Day #
2008 Jan 22 2
2008 Feb 21 3
2008 Mar 21 4
2008 Apr 20 5
2008 May 20 6
2008 Jun 18 7
]2008 Jul 18 8 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2008 Aug 16 9 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2008 Sep 15 10 2 End 2nd
2008 Oct 14 11 3 End 3rd
2008 Nov 13 12 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2008 Dec 12 1 4th anniversary of event; 1417 days/4 lunar yearsFull Moon Dates 2009
Year MTH Day #
2009 Jan 11 2
2009 Feb 9 3
2009 Mar 11 4
2009 Apr 9 5
2009 May 9 6
]2009 Jun 7 7 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2009 Jul 7 8 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2009 Aug 6 9 2 End 2nd
2009 Sep 4 10 3 End 3rd
2009 Oct 4 11 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2009 Nov 2 12
2009 Dec 2 1 5th anniversary of event; 1772 days/5 lunar years
2009 Dec 31 2Full Moon Dates 2010
Year MTH Day #
2010 Jan 30 3
2010 Feb 28 4
2010 Mar 30 5
2010 Apr 28 6
2010 May 27 7
]2010 Jun 26 8 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2010 Jul 26 9 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2010 Aug 24 10 2 End 2nd
2010 Sep 23 11 3 End 3rd
2010 Oct 23 12 4 End 4th prohibited cycle
2010 Nov 21 1 6th anniversary of event; 2126 days/6 lunar years
2010 Dec 21 2Full Moon Dates 2011
Year MTH Day #
2011 Jan 19 3
2011 Feb 18 4
2011 Mar 19 5
2011 Apr 18 6
2011 May 17 7
2011 Jun 15 8
]2011 Jul 15 9 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2011 Aug 13 10 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2011 Sep 12 11 2 End 2nd
2011 Oct 12 12 3 End 3rd
2011 Nov 10 1 4 End 4th prohibited cycle (7th anniversary of event; 2480 days/7 lunar years
2011 Dec 10 2Full Moon Dates 2012
Year MTH Day #
2012 Jan 9 3
2012 Feb 7 4
2012 Mar 8 5
2012 Apr 6 6
2012 May 6 7
2012 Jun 4 8
]2012 Jul 3 9 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, haraam/prohibited cycle
2012 Aug 2 10 1 End 1st lunar cycle
2012 Aug 31 11 2 End 2nd
2012 Sep 30 12 3 End 3rd
2012 Oct 29 1 4 End 4th prohibited cycle (8th anniversary of event; 2834 days/8 lunar years
2012 Nov 28 2
2012 Dec 28 3Full Moon Dates 2013
Year MTH Day #
2013 Jan 27 4
2013 Feb 25 5
2013 Mar 27 6
2013 Apr 25 7
2013 May 25 8
]2013 Jun 23 9 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, prohibited cycle
2013 Jul 22 10 1 End 1st
2013 Aug 21 11 2 End 2nd
2013 Sep 19 12 3 End 3rd
2013 Oct 19 1 4 End 4th prohibited cycle -- today (9th anniversary of event; 3189 days/9 lunar years
2013 Nov 17 2
2013 Dec 17 3 -
Salaam,
Nothing evil, but some are nice numbers -)
God bless you
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Nothing evil, but some are nice numbers -)
Peace, yes perhaps in context of nice number as in paycheck. )
Hope everyone understood post above in that the lunar cycles to know time (e.g. lunar months, years) which vary at any day or lunar phase run separate i.e. 12 in lunar year don't have to correlate exactly to prohibited lunar cycles which they are always the first 4 after the summer solstice easily determined anywhere in the world even after waking from a deep sleep on a remote deserted island; no need to ask anyone when exactly is ramadan (lunar cycle of heat), hajj, prohibited cycles/period, etc.
936 surely count al-shwr/the lunar cycles near the god two ten (i.e. twelve) shra/lunar cycle of in book the god day creation the heavens and the earth from it four prohibited...
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Full Moon Dates 2013
Year MTH Day #
2013 Jan 27 4
2013 Feb 25 5
2013 Mar 27 6
2013 Apr 25 7
2013 May 25 8
]2013 Jun 23 9 Start Ramadan, Hajj, fast/abstention, prohibited cycle
2013 Jul 22 10 1 End 1st
2013 Aug 21 11 2 End 2nd
2013 Sep 19 12 3 End 3rd
2013 Oct 19 1 4 End 4th prohibited cycle -- today (9th anniversary of event; 3189 days/9 lunar years
2013 Nov 17 2
2013 Dec 17 3 -
Peace brother Wakas,
However, I disagree with
See http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605648.0This seems to confirm that the "biggest feast" is the fourth one
- An acquittal/release from The God and His messenger to those with whom you made a treaty from among the polytheists.
- Therefore, roam the earth for FOUR full-moons and know that you will not escape The God, and that The God will disgrace the ungrateful/rejecters.
So we are now at the fourth full-moon, where the biggest feast takes place
- And an announcement from The God and His messenger to the people on the greatest day of the feast "The God is quit/free from the polytheists and so is His messenger". If you repent, then it is better for you, and if you turn away, then know that you will not escape The God. And give news to those who conceal/reject of a painful retribution.
- Except for those with whom you had a treaty from among the polytheists if they did not reduce anything from it nor did they plan to attack you; you shall continue the treaty with them until its expiry. Truly, The God loves the forethoughtful/conscientious.
Remember that the waning crescent times the end of the period of the feast and the restriction (the 10 day period). So the following passage talks about the passing that includes the end of the restricted period, 10 days later after the day of the bigggest feast
- So when the inviolable full-moons are passed, then you may fight the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and uphold/maintain the salat and bring forth the betterment, then clear/vacate their way/path. Truly, The God is Turning/Forgiving, Embracing/Merciful.
What do you make of 2217, see http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9188.msg333873#msg333873
2217 talks about the period spanning the four inviolable full-moons (fighting in them). While in 2185, the full-moon is talked about as a marker (fast it or according to it).
Peace,
Ayman
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peace brother Ayman,
2217 talks about the period spanning the four inviolable full-moons (fighting in them). While in 2185, the full-moon is talked about as a marker (fast it or according to it).
I understand your explanation but in 2217 it is singular.
2217 asks about the inviolable shahr/full-moon is there fighting in it
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peace brother Ayman,
I understand your explanation but in 2217 it is singular.
Peace Wakas, yes and how "in it" can refer to single full-moon?
2217 they asking you about al-shr/the lunar cycle (singular) the haraam/prohibited fight in it say fight in it immense...
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Peace brother Wakas,
I understand your explanation but in 2217 it is singular.
Thanks for reminding me and correcting my mistake. You are correct it is singular. It is probably talking about the first inviolable full moon. If it is the first inviolable full moon, then "in it" would indicate in the period marked to begin according to it.
Peace,
Ayman
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salam wakas and ayman
even in singular form of 2-217, it can be a generic expression for each shahr haramPeace
Salam Noshirk,
Correct in your understanding , al-shahr al-haram ( inviolable month ) in 2217 even in singular form it's pointing to the four inviolable months not only one month , this form and meaning is similar to the word al-malak singular of al-malaayikah (plural ) the singular form is used in 6917 and 8922 but it still mean al-malayika as a group , there is another similar form or way when the plural meaning is understood through the singular form in arabic you can see that in the word as al-maskyin the singular of al-masaakyin ( plural ) , the singular form is used in 1073 and 7444 and 6934 but it is evident that the talk in that verse is not talking about one singular ,particular maskyin (1 poor man ) but instead it mean the poor men's in general ( any poor man ) this form and meaning is similar to the form and meaning of al-shahr al-haram ( the inviolable month ) in 2217 , the meaning is all the inviolable months
Salam
