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    GENERAL RULE
    (Main Premise)

    IF verse is entirely clear
    THEN follow that verse
    ELSE no one knows its interpretation (ignore the verse)

    SECONDARY RULE
    (Second Premise)

    IF it is relating to obedience to Allah and and towards human unity
    THEN it is Islam
    ELSE it is not Islam
    (or sign for troubles)

    THIRD RULE
    (Third Premise)

    IF one i'qtiqad (creed) to obey all the "DO NOT" prohibitions in the Qur'an
    THEN he is a Muslim
    ELSE he is not a Muslim

    | I'QTIQAD
    (creed)
    | +
    | ACTION
    (amal/behaviour)

    CATEGORY
    FAITH
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    NO i'tiqad

    as a sect/personally
    to disobey Allah
    | +
    | NO action
    to disobey Allah

    Muslim

    (extremely rare)

    Believer and

    may becoming a
    True Believer
    (depends on no fear
    or grieve etc)

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    NO i'tiqad

    as a sect/personally
    to disobey Allah
    | +
    | Unintentionally
    or unknowingly
    unwillingly
    sadly
    disobeying Allah

    Muslim

    (Reformer)
    (very rare)

    Believer

    or may also faith equal to
    "Love Monkey"

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    HIDDENLY i'tiqad

    as a sect/personally
    to disobey Allah
    | +
    | Hiddenly
    or openly
    willingly
    happily
    disobeying Allah

    Non Muslim

    (Munafiqoon/Hypocrite/Associator)
    (almost extinct)

    In truth they are

    Disbeliever

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    OPENLY i'tiqad

    as a sect/personally
    to disobey Allah
    | +
    | Openly
    or hiddenly
    willingly
    happily
    disobeying Allah

    Non Muslim

    (Mushrikeen/True Associator)
    (today's majority)

    In truth they

    may becoming
    a True Disbeliever.
    They will just
    not listen to any
    clear proof whatsoever
    from the Qur'an.
    Totally deaf, dumb
    and blind, following
    their idol/leader.

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      Salaam!

      Look at the structure of widely accepted 'The House of Allah (Ka'aba)' and see through how History has been fashioned with well defined Chemistry. The way Golden Rules of Duet and Octet are embedded therein for guidance to the mankind towards principles of bonding is meant to unveil unbound mystery. The coherence that we grasp at a glance; do you think it is just by chance, Nay! it is arranged with a great deal of symmetry. Accept the way Almighty has taught else nothing to harm God but our own misery. Learn to make a viable bond in all walks of life and shun poaching or rivalry. If you take heed, sacrifice is a great deed; not a sign of timidness but an act of bravery. I hope you have now seen; what is a perfected Deen, You are real or I am imaginary.

      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba

      The date of Hijri Calendar - 10-01-1435 heralds a new beginning.

      Salaam!

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        #386

        GENERAL RULE
        (Main Premise)

        IF verse is entirely clear
        THEN follow that verse
        ELSE no one knows its interpretation (ignore the verse)

        SECONDARY RULE
        (Second Premise)

        IF it is relating to obedience to Allah and and towards human unity
        THEN it is Islam
        ELSE it is not Islam
        (or sign for troubles)

        THIRD RULE
        (Third Premise)

        IF one i'qtiqad (creed) to obey all the "DO NOT" prohibition in the Qur'an
        THEN he is a Muslim
        ELSE he is not a Muslim

        FOURTH RULE
        (Fourth Premise)

        IF one i'qtiqad (creed) to follow clear verses and obey all the "DO NOT" prohibitions in the Qur'an
        THEN he will belong to the "companions of the right". (with or without faith)
        ELSE he will belong to "companions of the left".

        | Companions
        of the Left

        Companions

        of the Right

        The

        Forerunners
        |

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        | Certainly
        to be in
        Hell

        Not certain

        to be in
        Paradise

        Certainly

        to be in
        Paradise
        |

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        | I'qtiqad to disobey
        and not patient
        with Allah test
        In fact, they hate Allah test,
        even the slightest

        I'qtiqad to obey

        and try very hard to be patient
        with Allah test

        I'qtiqad and obey

        and always seeking
        for Allah test
        (mostly very dangerous
        or voluntarily
        testing themselves
        before Allah test them
        ie. strengthening their faith
        until no more fear or grieve)
        |

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        | Non Muslim
        Munafiqoon
        Mushrikeen
        Disbelievers
        True Disbelievers

        Muslim

        Reformers
        Believers

        Muslim

        True Believers
        Auliya
        Prophets/Messengers etc.
        |

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        | Abide in Hell
        Eternally

        In Paradise

        or in Hell
        and may also at last
        enter Paradise
        Allah knows best.

        Abide in Paradise

        Eternally
        |

        And you become three kinds

        (1) Then the companions of the right <- not certainly to be in Paradise
        what are the companions of the right?

        (2) And the companions of the left <- certainly to be in the Hell Fire
        what are the companions of the left?

        (3) And the forerunners, the forerunners <- certainly to be in Paradise
        Those are the ones brought near
        In the Gardens of Pleasure
        A company of the former peoples
        And a few of the later peoples
        (567-14)

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          Salaam,

          The Book of Allah, Chapter 22, Verse ? 17 (2217)

          17

          T.V. Irving has understood the above verse as follows

          ?God will sort out those who believe, as well as those who have become Jews, Sabeans, Christians, Magians, from those who associate , on Resurrection Day. God is a Witness for everything.?

          http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/22/17/default.htm

          All chemical reactions can be placed into one of six categories. Here they are

          1. Synthesis A synthesis reaction is when two or more simple compounds combine to form a more complicated one. These reactions come in the general form of
            A + B ---> AB

          One example of a synthesis reaction is the combination of iron and sulfur to form iron (II) sulfide
          8 Fe + S8 ---> 8 FeS


          1. Combustion A combustion reaction is when oxygen combines with another compound to form water and carbon dioxide. These reactions are exothermic, meaning they produce heat. An example of this kind of reaction is the burning of napthalene
            C10H8 + 12 O2 ---> 10 CO2 + 4 H2O

          1. Decomposition A decomposition reaction is the opposite of a synthesis reaction - a complex molecule breaks down to make simpler ones. These reactions come in the general form
            AB ---> A + B

          One example of a decomposition reaction is the electrolysis of water to make oxygen and hydrogen gas

          2 H2O ---> 2 H2 + O2


          1. Single displacement This is when one element trades places with another element in a compound. These reactions come in the general form of

          A + BC ---> AC + B

          One example of a single displacement reaction is when magnesium replaces hydrogen in water to make magnesium hydroxide and hydrogen gas

          Mg + 2 H2O ---> Mg(OH)2 + H2


          1. Acid-base This is a special kind of double displacement reaction that takes place when an acid and base react with each other. The H+ ion in the acid reacts with the OH- ion in the base, causing the formation of water. Generally, the product of this reaction is some ionic salt and water

          HA + BOH ---> H2O + BA

          One example of an acid-base reaction is the reaction of hydrobromic acid (HBr) with sodium hydroxide

          HBr + NaOH ---> NaBr + H2O


          1. Double displacement This is when the anions and cations of two different molecules switch places, forming two entirely different compounds. These reactions are in the general form

          AB + CD ---> AD + CB

          One example of a double displacement reaction is the reaction of lead (II) nitrate with potassium iodide to form lead (II) iodide and potassium nitrate

          Pb(NO3)2 + 2 KI ---> PbI2 + 2 KNO3

          The date in Hijri calendar i.e. 10-01-1435 has great significance. It heralds a new beginning.

          Salaam!

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            The Book of Allah (Al-Quran), Chapter 7, Verse 179 (7179)

            Free-minds understanding to the above verse is as follows

            And We have given to Hell many of the Jinn and mankind; they had hearts with which they did not understand, and they had eyes with which they did not see, and they had ears with which they did not hear. They are like livestock; no, they are even more astray. These are the unaware ones.

            Allah(swt) has created Petroleum and Natural Gas made up of Carbon (C) (you may call it ?JINN?) and Hydrogen (H) (you may call it ?INS?) popularly known as Hydrocarbons attached to each other with purely covalent bond and they are meant for COMBUSTION.

            The date in Hijri calendar i.e. 10-01-1435 has great significance. It heralds a new beginning.

            Salaam!

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              GENERAL RULE
              (Main Premise)

              IF verse is entirely clear
              THEN follow that verse
              ELSE no one knows its interpretation (ignore the verse)

              SECONDARY RULE
              (Second Premise)

              IF it is relating to obedience to Allah and and towards human unity
              THEN it is Islam
              ELSE it is not Islam
              (or sign for troubles)

              THIRD RULE
              (Third Premise)

              IF one i'qtiqad (creed) to obey all the "DO NOT" prohibition in the Qur'an
              THEN he is a Muslim
              ELSE he is not a Muslim

              FOURTH RULE
              (Fourth Premise)

              IF one i'qtiqad (creed) to follow clear verses and obey all the "DO NOT" prohibitions in the Qur'an
              THEN he will belong to the "companions of the right". (with or without faith)
              ELSE he will belong to "companions of the left".

              FIFTH RULE
              (Fifth Premise)

              IF one is free from Shirk (1, 2, 3, and 4)
              THEN he will fully benefit from the Qur'an.
              ELSE he will not understand/ misunderstood the true message of the Qur'an.

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              | Level of
              Shirk
              (%)

              Level of

              Understanding
              the Qur'an
              (%)

              Level of

              Obedience
              (%)
              |

              |
              |
              |
              |
              |
              |

              100%
              ->
              0%
              ->
              0%
              90%
              ->
              10%
              ->
              10%
              80%
              ->
              20%
              ->
              20%
              70%
              ->
              30%
              ->
              30%
              60%
              ->
              40%
              ->
              40%
              50%
              ->
              50%
              ->
              50%
              40%
              ->
              60%
              ->
              60%
              30%
              ->
              70%
              ->
              70%
              20%
              ->
              80%
              ->
              80%
              10%
              ->
              90%
              ->
              90%

              | 0%
              Allah has not made
              for a man
              two hearts
              in his interior
              (333-4)

              ->
              < 90%
              ->
              < 90%

              Guide us to the straight path
              (16)

              These are verses of the Book of Wisdom
              (312)

              I swear by the Quran full of wisdom
              (362)

              Alif Lam Ra. These are the verses of the wise Book.
              101)

              He grants wisdom to whom He pleases
              and whoever is granted wisdom
              he indeed is given a great good
              and none but men of understanding mind
              (2269)

              This is the Book (the Quran)
              whereof there is no doubt
              a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun <- First condition, Qur'an is only for this people.
              (22)

              And surely it is in the original of the Book with Us
              truly elevated, full of wisdom.
              (434)

              Indeed, it is a Noble Qur'an
              In a protected Book
              None can grasp it
              except those purified (from shirk)
              (5677-79)

              O you who have believed
              indeed the polytheists are unclean
              (92

              And whenever a surah is revealed
              there are among the hypocrites those who say
              "Which of you has this increased faith?"
              As for those who believed
              it has increased them in faith
              while they are rejoicing
              But as for those in whose hearts is disease <- shirk
              it (the surah) has increased them in evil
              to their evil
              And they will have died
              while they are disbelievers
              (9124-125)

              They deceive Allah
              and those who believe
              but they deceive not
              except themselves
              and perceive not
              (29)

              I will turn away from My signs
              those who are arrogant upon the earth without right
              and if they should see every sign
              they will not believe in it
              And if they see the way of consciousness
              they will not adopt it as a way
              but if they see the way of error
              they will adopt it as a way
              That is because
              they have denied Our signs <- disobedience, "DO NOT" prohibition
              and they were heedless of them
              (7146)

              Indeed, those who disbelieve
              it is all the same for them
              whether you warn them
              or do not warn them
              they will not believe
              (26)

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                The date in Hijri calendar i.e. 10-01-1435 has great significance. It heralds a new beginning.

                Salam

                Do you realize what happen in 2001?

                Peace

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                  Right Atrium = Abu Bakar Siddique

                  Salam

                  I could understand Umar, Uthman, Ali etc as arabic names, but I wonder whether Abu Bakar is really an arabic name during Muhammad.

                  Just wondering... a little bit unusual.

                  Peace

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                    Salaam!

                    Ma shaa Allah! you have got best of analytical abilities and nice way of presentation. May Allah bless.

                    If your good self permits, I would like to point out some flaws in the the following

                    This is the Book (the Quran)
                    whereof there is no doubt
                    a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun <- First condition, Qur'an is only for this people.
                    (22)

                    The arabic text of the above quoted verse is as under

                    (i) It is known means 'That', but for the reasons known to you, you have understood the term as 'This'.
                    (ii) Your good self has understood (lilmuttaqeena) as 'to those who are Al-Muttaqun', which seems to be erroneous.

                    Kindly clarify.

                    Salaam!!

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                      Salam

                      Do you realize what happen in 2001?

                      Peace

                      No, I am unaware.

                      Salaam!

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                        Salaam,

                        If you could rely on Google Translation the Arabic Word has got the following meaning

                        -adjective

                        virgin, maiden, intact, maidenlike

                        -noun

                        first born

                        -verb

                        rise early, live from hand to mouth, get up.

                        Salaam!

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                          Kindly clarify.

                          Salam

                          You are right, thank you. It is just a translation and I guess the readers can check for themselves through the links I've given. I am more on delivering the message.

                          Peace

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                            If you could rely on Google Translation the Arabic Word has got the following meaning

                            Salam

                            Does it normal for an ancient Arabs to use that kind of name?

                            Peace

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                              Salaam!

                              Salam

                              You are correct, thank you. It is just a translation and I guess the readers can check for themselves through the links I've given. I am more on delivering the message.

                              Peace

                              Respected brother, you have taken the verse as a criterion to arrive at a conclusion but not taken the correct understanding. There is a lot of difference between this and that. That refers to what?

                              Salaam!

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                                Salam,

                                Does it normal for an ancient Arabs to use that kind of name?

                                I do not qualify to doubt the acumen of ancient Arabs.

                                Salaam!

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                                  Salam

                                  Okay, thank you. It is just my curiosity.

                                  Peace

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                                    Salaam

                                    Google translate use modern shape off Arabic while Quran use Classical Quraish dialect.

                                    Lisan ul Arab and Lane Lexicon is the best source perhaps.

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                                      Respected brother, you have taken the verse as a criterion to arrive at a conclusion but not taken the correct understanding. There is a lot of difference between this and that. That refers to what?

                                      Salam

                                      I know what are you referring to but as I said, I'm not dwelling in detail or even questioning the word "Book" or "Alif Lam Meem" and its relation to consciousness etc. It is just a simple message for simple understanding, for beginners - title - What is Islam?

                                      Peace.

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                                        PREMISE 1

                                        IF verse is entirely clear
                                        THEN follow that verse
                                        ELSE no one knows its interpretation (ignore the verse)

                                        PREMISE 2

                                        IF it is relating to obedience to Allah and and towards human unity
                                        THEN it is Islam
                                        ELSE it is not Islam
                                        (or sign for troubles)

                                        PREMISE 3

                                        IF one i'qtiqad (creed) to obey all the "DO NOT" prohibitions in the Qur'an
                                        THEN he is a Muslim
                                        ELSE he is not a Muslim

                                        PREMISE 4

                                        IF one i'qtiqad (creed) to follow clear verses and obey all the "DO NOT" prohibitions in the Qur'an
                                        THEN he will belong to the "companions of the right". (with or without faith)
                                        ELSE he will belong to "companions of the left".

                                        PREMISE 5

                                        IF one is free from Shirk (1, 2, 3, and 4)
                                        THEN he will fully benefit from the Qur'an.
                                        ELSE he will not understand/ misunderstood the true message of the Qur'an.

                                        SIXTH RULE
                                        (Sixth Premise)

                                        IF one grasp the true message of the Qur'an.
                                        THEN he will find the straight path.
                                        ELSE he will be deaf, dumb and blind and will never return.

                                        • He will have "NO LIFE"
                                          ie. he "cannot benefit" from his lifetime
                                          and "cannot benefit" from his life after death
                                          NO LIFE
                                          but merely "passing his life"
                                          like dreams or nightmares

                                        Those are the ones
                                        who have purchased error for guidance
                                        so their transaction
                                        has brought no profit
                                        nor were they guided
                                        Their example is that
                                        of one who kindled a fire
                                        but when it illuminated what was around him
                                        Allah took away their light
                                        and left them in darkness
                                        they could not see
                                        Deaf, dumb and blind
                                        so they will not return
                                        Or like a rainstorm from the sky
                                        within which is darkness
                                        thunder and lightning
                                        They put their fingers
                                        in their ears
                                        against the thunderclaps
                                        in dread of death
                                        But Allah is encompassing of the disbelievers
                                        The lightning almost snatches away their sight
                                        Every time it lights
                                        for them
                                        they walk therein
                                        but when darkness comes over them
                                        they stand
                                        And if Allah had willed
                                        He could have taken away
                                        their hearing and their sight
                                        Indeed, Allah is over all things competent
                                        O mankind
                                        worship your Lord
                                        who created you
                                        and those before you
                                        that you may become righteous
                                        who made for you
                                        the earth
                                        a bed
                                        and the sky a ceiling
                                        and sent down from the sky
                                        rain and brought forth thereby fruits
                                        as provision for you
                                        So do not attribute to Allah equals
                                        while you know
                                        (216-22)

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                                          Salam

                                          I know what are you referring to but as I said, I'm not dwelling in detail or even questioning the word "Book" or "Alif Lam Meem" and its relation to consciousness etc. It is just a simple message for simple understanding, for beginners - title - What is Islam?

                                          Salaam,

                                          Verse 21 i.e. 'Alif Lam Meem' (&#1751 is a mirror image of the Sanskrit word to be understood as 'The House'. The verse 22 starts with the word means 'that' referring to The House (i.e. Ka'aba) and the verse alongwith the verse No. 3 (23) may be understood as under

                                          That is the Book no doubts therein, a gift for the immaculate persons who seek to accustom with the unknown and remain persistent with strict discipline and spends out of whatever bounties bestowed upon them.

                                          Let me share with you something interesting about Ka'aba, kindly mull over -

                                          The fourteen meter high pillar (Rukn-e-Yamani) in between the 35 rings of brass fixed on SHAAZARWAAN is seen here live which makes the combination Fourteen Thirty Five (1435). In addition, 10 more dots with one have been made visible upfront, if you strive. There is a lesson in it to imbibe; the symmetry reminds us the date which is called 10-01-1435. The date passed away three days before, giving an alarm bells ?life is no more?; if at all one can survive, the oxygen lies in the archive.

                                          Stop! What do you say; be that as it may, life is eternal; look! I am still alive. 1435 is in any way significant; I don?t understand even a scant; I am not mesmerized, hardly inclined to thrive. I think you have got hypnotised with the number; pretending to be wise, tell me what else is left after 1435, if you can arrive.

                                          Not to blame and not to frown; count it as 10 in a row up and down, what is left is left in the weight; some say it side by side eight; okay! You may call two and four with three and five.

                                          I exhausted my mind but yet to bind what you made me to find, not easy to extract honey from beehive.

                                          Ok! Cool your mind; take a rewind, one more show with a folding drive. Riddle is over wrap the band, one was doer seen by thousand; be a wise remain alive.

                                          Have a look at the structure and the map

                                          http//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/FileKaaba-plan.svg

                                          http//muslimbychoice.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/kaaba-from-inside/

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