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New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran

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    justamuslim
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    When I clicked on the website http//www.quran4peace.org/, Got a message that the account has been suspended.

    What's up with that?

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      Wilson
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      Peace justamuslim,

      When I clicked on the website http//www.quran4peace.org/, Got a message that the account has been suspended.

      The site is back up.

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        Bender
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        Peace everyone,

        I would like to present a groundbreaking Arabic book entitled "Peacemaking from the Quran" demonstrates the meaning of peacemaking (islam) as well as concepts such as "salat", "masjid", "hagg", "ramadan", etc. The book is based in part on many of the valuable discusssions that took place right here on the Free-minds forum.

        The complete book can now be downloaded from the following site

        www.quran4peace.org

        I have also started working on an English version. I will let everyone know once it is completed.

        Peace and best wishes,

        Ayman

        Salaamun alayka,

        I did not read your book but I have read some articles of you.
        Correct me if I am wrong but I believe your book is a (upgraded) collection of some of your articles and posts here.
        What will happen to your book if after some time you come to new understandings?
        I am not talking about some small corrections but about new understandings about concepts which are totally different from how you understand them now.

        Salaam,
        Bender

        ps grats on so many likes on FB

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          savage_carrot
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          What will happen to your book if after some time you come to new understandings?
          I am not talking about some small corrections but about new understandings about concepts which are totally different from how you understand them now.
          A new book I assume? It has been known to happen, whether it happens here is a hypothetical most can't really answer. Not sure why you asked that question however, are you expecting bro Ayman to say nevah evah that's crazy talk? Or a more reasonable, I'll let you guys know if I change my mind? In either case it shouldn't stop someone from publishing their thoughts unless they're not sure of what it is they're talking about.

          peace

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            Bender
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            A new book I assume? It has been known to happen, whether it happens here is a hypothetical most can't really answer. Not sure why you asked that question however, are you expecting bro Ayman to say nevah evah that's crazy talk? Or a more reasonable, I'll let you guys know if I change my mind? In either case it shouldn't stop someone from publishing their thoughts unless they're not sure of what it is they're talking about.

            peace

            salaamun alayki,

            I don't know, that's why I am asking
            I think it needs big courage to say A in one book with n evidences to prove A, and then in the next book to say you were totally wrong.

            peace

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              Man_of_Faith
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              Peace Sajda,

              Because you are a woman you are not allowed to enter God's house? How silly is not that. Where do they get their ideas from. Have they authority from God to do that? Is it a new covenant?

              God bless you

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                ayman
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                Peace everyone,

                The book's Facebook page now has over half a million fans (over 540,000 to be more precise).

                https//www.facebook.com/Quran4Peace

                This success is thanks to the god above all and to the amazing efforts of dear brother Abdelilah and other kind brothers and sisters.

                However, the Facebook page taking a lot of my spare time plus extremely busy work and personal schedule has resulted in delaying the remaining chapters of the English version (it is not a translation but a complete re-write). I also miss everyone at Free-minds and will try to pop in every now and then ).

                Peace and all best wishes,

                Ayman

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                  ayman
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                  Peace everyone,

                  I just posted Chapter 3 (the one about ?salat?) of the ?Quran for Peace? book on the book web site

                  http//www.quran4peace.org/documents/Quran4peace-English-part3.pdf

                  I would appreciate everyone's feedback.

                  The other good news is that with the god's help the Facebook page has added another 250K fans in the last couple of months and now it has about 800K fans in total. With the god's help this could perhaps soon lead to a real revolution.

                  Peace and all best wishes,

                  Ayman

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                    Peace everyone,

                    I just posted Chapter 3 (the one about ?salat?) of the ?Quran for Peace? book on the book web site

                    http//www.quran4peace.org/documents/Quran4peace-English-part3.pdf

                    I would appreciate everyone's feedback.

                    The other good news is that with the god's help the Facebook page has added another 250K fans in the last couple of months and now it has about 800K fans in total. With the god's help this could perhaps soon lead to a real revolution.

                    Peace and all best wishes,

                    Ayman

                    Thank you.
                    It is interesting, but I somehow miss the explanation of ablution in connection with salat.
                    Is it all that there is of the article about salat or there is more?

                    Peace

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                      ayman
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                      It is interesting, but I somehow miss the explanation of ablution in connection with salat.
                      Is it all that there is of the article about salat or there is more?

                      Given the optimal times of the learning connection at the start and end of day, washing is what one normally and naturally does when he wakes up and starts his day and when he returns home at the end of the day after work.

                      Peace,

                      Ayman

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                        Timur
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                        Peace brother!

                        Thank you for the third chapter. I have waited for this so long

                        My best wishes,

                        Timur

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                          Timur
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                          One question In the new chapter of your book you translate sujud as prostration. Have you changed your mind? Or is this simply because you are going to explain the meaning of sujud in the fourth chapter in detail?

                          Peace.

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                            GODsubmitter
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                            Given the optimal times of the learning connection at the start and end of day, washing is what one normally and naturally does when he wakes up and starts his day and when he returns home at the end of the day after work.

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

                            Thank you @ayman for the answer, but I do not agree, I do not think that God would mention in a Sublime Scripture such an obvious and hygienic habit everybody learns as children to wash your hands

                            Anyway...

                            Peace

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                              sushi1992
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                              One question In the new chapter of your book you translate sujud as prostration. Have you changed your mind? Or is this simply because you are going to explain the meaning of sujud in the fourth chapter in detail?

                              Peace.

                              Ditto with Timur. I had regarded your understanding of sujud as not necessarily physical. This is also my view.

                              peace + nice to see brother ayman on here again )

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                                ayman
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                                Peace brother Timur,

                                One question In the new chapter of your book you translate sujud as prostration. Have you changed your mind? Or is this simply because you are going to explain the meaning of sujud in the fourth chapter in detail?

                                I was going to explain the meaning in chapter 4. However, you are right that it may be better to specify the meaning as "obedience" right away and then explain in chapter 4. I have changed this based on your comment and uploaded a new version.

                                Peace,

                                Ayman

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                                  ayman
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                                  Thank you @ayman for the answer, but I do not agree, I do not think that God would mention in a Sublime Scripture such an obvious and hygienic habit everybody learns as children to wash your hands

                                  When put in the context of doing the learning connection with a clear mind then it does make sense. Personally, I think better after washing .

                                  Peace,

                                  Ayman

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                                    Timur
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                                    Peace brother Ayman.

                                    However, you are right that it may be better to specify the meaning as "obedience" right away and then explain in chapter 4. I have changed this based on your comment and uploaded a new version.

                                    Yes, I think this is better. Thank you However, now a new problem occurs You refer to obedience, but in the traditional translations you provide no obedience is mentioned. I think this may lead to confusions. Maybe it would be better to point out briefly that sujud is traditionally translated as prostration and that you are goind to explain your translation in the next chapter? What do you think?

                                    Peace.

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                                      ayman
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                                      Peace brother Timur,

                                      Yes, I think this is better. Thank you ) However, now a new problem occurs You refer to obedience, but in the traditional translations you provide no obedience is mentioned. I think this may lead to confusions. Maybe it would be better to point out briefly that sujud is traditionally translated as prostration and that you are goind to explain your translation in the next chapter? What do you think?

                                      I provide a short explanation of why "sujud" means obedience as you suggested. I just uploaded the new version.

                                      Thanks for the great input and support.

                                      Ayman

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                                        The_Chimp
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                                        Peace brother Timur,
                                        I provide a short explanation of why "sujud" means obedience as you suggested. I just uploaded the new version.

                                        Thanks for the great input and support.

                                        Ayman

                                        Where? Provide explanation where?

                                        Sajdah - in Arabic means to prostrate and not "obedience".

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                                          The_Chimp
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                                          http//www.quran4peace.org/documents/Quran4peace-English-part3.pdf

                                          This document is someone's made up and baseless views with many errors.

                                          As we saw in the previous chapter, the common noun ?islam? is not the meaningless proper name of a religion.

                                          Incorrect - virtually every scholar of Islam would term Islam as a Proper Noun.

                                          For example, while ?islam? means peacemaking

                                          By whose reckoning?

                                          The word Islam means "To submit". Well documented . . . unless one invents completely new meanings.

                                          As we can see, the word ?taslim? in 3356 is translated as salutation. However, by doing a simple search in the Quran, everyone can easily find the same exact word used in 465 to clearly mean ?submission? not ?salutation?.

                                          Words have different meanings in different contexts . . .

                                          Sallama does have the meaning of to send peace/greetings/salutation.

                                          It is obvious that the word ?taslim? in the Quran is used to mean ?submission? and not ?salutation?.

                                          Actually it is far from obvious. By finding different usage that alone is not sufficient reason to go and change the meaning of another word.

                                          So, according to 3356, when people say ?sala allah alayh wa salam? they are ignorantly saying that the god submits (the god be most exalted). So billions of people, including so-called scholars, have been mindlessly uttering what is essentially a gross blasphemyagainst the god!

                                          Shock, Horror! Or what the case likely to be is . . . that YOU are wrong. Think about it . . . Arabs whose language it is . . . have produced outstanding scholars of Arabic and what not . . . and others that are not Arab . . .

                                          They all missed it . . . and yet . . . . you have spotted this mistake?

                                          Unlikely.

                                          People are not saying God submits at all . . .

                                          Read

                                          "Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels . O you who have believed, ask blessing upon him and ask peace."


                                          The above is one bit . . . rest of document is filled with unqualified amateurish nonsense.

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