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New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran

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    unknownuser
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    The fact that Quran is in Arabic is far better reason to keep with Arabic. And what is wrong with Arabic? After all God chose to send his message in Arabic.

    Arabic is Muslim language and has been. As I have already said . . . all understand if you say "Salah" - Allah and etc.

    RED There is nothing wrong with Arabic.
    BLUE This because of doctrination by long time periods.

    Btw do you understand what I mean "Arabization"?
    Arabazation is not limited within languages but also for cultures.This phenomenon occur together with spread of Islam.

    I give you example

    1. In my region "Nusantara", the Arabic language influeced our languages.Main language spoken in Nusantara is Malay.

    Indonesian language = Malay + Java + Arabic + English + Sanskrit + Portugese
    Malaysian language = Malay + English + Jawi + Arabic + Sanskrit + Portugese
    Bruneian language = Malay + English + Jawi + Arabic + Sanskrit + Portugese

    The Jawi Script using Arabic.

    1. Some of Muslim even they're not Arab adobted Arabic for their name.

    2. Music like nasheed is popular among muslim communities especially for concervatives

    3. etc

    Peace

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      Man_of_Faith
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      Peace,

      Huh? You said something which was arrogant and I just continued on the list. And Shaytaan said like you think. There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your

      1. More knowledgeable
      2. Way smarter

      And I added

      1. And more arrogant

      You you deny the reply was untrue based on the first post?

      I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.

      Peace

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        The_Chimp
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        Peace,

        Huh? You said something which was arrogant and I just continued on the list. And Shaytaan said like you think. There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your

        1. More knowledgeable
        2. Way smarter

        And I added

        1. And more arrogant

        You you deny the reply was untrue based on the first post?

        I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.

        Peace

        There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your

        You can hardly be the best judge of that? As you are accused of being guilty . . . and it is NOT you being offended. So offending others and then saying you are not offensive . . . but calling others "arrogant" . . .

        Hmmm . . . that is ARROGANCE!


        I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.

        So you quite enjoy calling others "retarded" yet . . . do not see this as offensive!


        It is a FACT that . . . I am better educated and smarter than you. It has easily been proven.

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          It is a FACT that . . . I am better educated and smarter than you. It has easily been proven.

          I thought I was going to find a relevant and interesting nugget of information. Yet, having only read the last post, I feel as though I have stepped into a primary school playground.

          Salaam.

          Sajda.

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            The_Chimp
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            I thought I was going to find a relevant and interesting nugget of information. Yet, having only read the last post, I feel as though I have stepped into a primary school playground.

            Salaam.

            Sajda.

            Why? Do you object to primary school playgrounds . . . I have always enjoyed a good scrap! Even aged 32. brickwall

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              Why? Do you object to primary school playgrounds . . . I have always enjoyed a good scrap! Even aged 32. brickwall

              Come on, brother, there's no need for such comments.

              We should not lose sight.
              We should not fight.
              We should hold on to the rope nice and tight.
              We should unite.

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                The_Chimp
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                Come on, brother, there's no need for such comments.

                We should not lose sight.
                We should not fight.
                We should hold on to the rope nice and tight.
                We should unite.

                Why not? It was a light-hearted comment . . . jeez!

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                  hawk99
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                  Come on, brother, there's no need for such comments.

                  We should not lose sight.
                  We should not fight.
                  We should hold on to the rope nice and tight.
                  We should unite.

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                  Why not? It was a light-hearted comment . . . jeez!

                  Jeez = Jesus = call on Jesus for assistance

                  ya Allah = call on Allah for assistance, is the best expression of exasperation, but you already know that!

                  God bless

                  peace

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                    The_Chimp
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                    Jeez = Jesus = call on Jesus for assistance

                    ya Allah = call on Allah for assistance, is the best expression of exasperation, but you already know that!

                    God bless

                    peace

                    I also know that Jeez - is mild expression of surprise. . . .and NOT calling Jesus Christ for help.

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                      hawk99
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                      I also know that Jeez - is mild expression of surprise. . . .and NOT calling Jesus Christ for help.

                      hmmm, ok,

                      On the one hand you are correct

                      Definition of JEEZ
                      ?used as a mild oath or introductory expletive (as to express surprise)

                      On the other hand......

                      Origin of JEEZ
                      euphemism for Jesus
                      First Known Use 1923

                      God bless

                      peace

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        Peace,

                        That is true. Saying jeez is using Jesus' name, even if by slang.

                        I usually say "oh Lord God". It may be more righteous.

                        God bless you

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                          Zulf
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                          What is important is what we mean when we utter what we utter. The intention is the important thing.... not the etymology of the uttered word/expression. Then of course, there are expression, although innocently uttered, that we perhaps better refrain from using... like "bloody hell"... or worse...

                          Uttering 'jeez' doesn't mean we call on Jesus... and just because we celebrate Christmas it doesn't mean we believe Jesus was more than a human man, and it doesn't even mean we commemorate Jesus birth at all, whether as God incarnate or as just a human messenger.

                          Peace

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                            The_Chimp
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                            Peace,

                            That is true. Saying jeez is using Jesus' name, even if by slang.

                            I usually say "oh Lord God". It may be more righteous.

                            God bless you

                            You are getting extremely petty . . . following me around and leaving nasty comments just for the sake of it. You do not know much or have answer . . . like all your brethren resort to making up nonsense.

                            Rather than highlighting your inadequacies - try staying quiet.

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                              The_Chimp
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                              hmmm, ok,

                              On the one hand you are correct

                              Definition of JEEZ
                              ?used as a mild oath or introductory expletive (as to express surprise)

                              On the other hand......

                              Origin of JEEZ
                              euphemism for Jesus
                              First Known Use 1923

                              God bless

                              peace

                              It did start off as an abbreviation of saying Jesus - but not saying "Oh Jesus" . . . and it is better than you sing "Jesus Christ" as a an expression to express surprise or annoyance.


                              I don't particularly have any problems saying Jesus Christ! other than to showing disrespect or taking his name in vain.

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                                hawk99
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                                What is important is what we mean when we utter what we utter. The intention is the important thing.... not the etymology of the uttered word/expression. Then of course, there are expression, although innocently uttered, that we perhaps better refrain from using... like "bloody hell"... or worse...

                                Uttering 'jeez' doesn't mean we call on Jesus... and just because we celebrate Christmas it doesn't mean we believe Jesus was more than a human man, and it doesn't even mean we commemorate Jesus birth at all, whether as God incarnate or as just a human messenger.

                                Peace

                                Peace Zulf,

                                Of course you are correct, but I was not addressing intentions, only the definition, knowledge is king.

                                It did start off as an abbreviation of saying Jesus - but not saying "Oh Jesus" . . . and it is better than you sing "Jesus Christ" as a an expression to express surprise or annoyance.


                                I don't particularly have any problems saying Jesus Christ! other than to showing disrespect or taking his name in vain.

                                I understand your point, on the other hand, some may interpret it as you calling on other than God.

                                God bless

                                peace

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                                  Zulf
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                                  Peace Zulf,

                                  Of course you are correct, but I was not addressing intentions, only the definition, knowledge is king.

                                  I understand your point, on the other hand, some may interpret it as you calling on other than God.

                                  God bless

                                  peace

                                  Definitely agreed.
                                  I felt I just wanted to exclaim my own idea. I fully understand your point of view. I often take a similar standpoint.

                                  The tricky part is that we very often cannot know the other party's real motivation... we only guess, and then judge as per our own ideas and assumptions. This is what we all do. All "sides" accuse the "other side" based on conjecture. It's the trademark of the human being.

                                  Peace and best wishes!

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                                    Like

                                    Oh just make me resident poet!

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                                      noshirk
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                                      salaam brother ayman

                                      i am really impressed by the success of your facebook page.
                                      thank you for the work you are doing.

                                      Peace

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                                        NielsJacob
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                                        Peace Ayman

                                        I read the first chapters.
                                        I couldn?t almost believe what I read.
                                        Its like everything just falls into their places, where they was intended to be from the beginning.

                                        I think that you are one that make what we all really purposed to do Trying to make the gods plan come through.
                                        May he really use you a lot.

                                        Wishing you all the best.

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                                          TheQuranAloneRevolution
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                                          Peace Ayman
                                          I read most of the book and I have to say that it is thought provoking. I can agree with you on a lot of things, the only questions I have would concern the Masjid Idea; can it not be a physical and a mental thing?

                                          Otherwise I can see where the 2 salat belief come from (you can interpret the "Guard your Salat (More than dual), as mean your lifetime, and not just daily because the end of the verse states to "stand in obedience (e.g in All of your salats = again lifetime, not just isolated). Also the Ramadan Summer timing is logical.

                                          Again, the only need for more interpretation for me, concerns the Masjid and Qibla interpretation. I say so because after reading the Masjid interpretation in Arabic, you kind of stressed more on the mental acceptance (sujjud) of it, but you didn't completely reject the idea of a physical house/Bayt/Masjid, where people can recite the Almighty's verses, and thus come to obedience or sujjud. Would you be kind enough to enlighten me on that, can there not be such a physical place where there this mental obedience to the Almighty's words happen ? What about the Qibla being a physical focal point as a form of being organized?

                                          I appreciate your response, thanks.
                                          Salam 3lek

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