I am God / Allah
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Else, prove it! Do not just claim it. . . prove it.
Can you say that all practices in Buddhism is injustice?
Can you say that all practices in Christianity is injustice?
Can you say that all practices in Judaism is injustice?
Can you say that all practices in Hinduism is injustice?
Can you say that all practices in all religions are injustice?
Only the Religion of Islam is justice to the humanity
and . . .
Can you say that Allah is opposing justice?
This is my prove . . that Religion of Islam (sectarianism) is the opposite of the Deen of Islam (peacemaking).
More prove? . . look at Islam itself . . . how many denominations?
By God
Bigot
Bigotism
Sectarianism
And whoever seeks a "dnan" (ا other than Islam <- ie. not religion of Islam, but Deen of Islam
it will NEVER be accepted of him
and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers
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And We have revealed to you
the Book in truth
confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture
and as a criterion over it
So judge between them by what Allah has revealed
and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truthTo each of you
We prescribed a law and a methodHad Allah willed
He would have made you one nationbut to test you in what He has given you
so race to good
To Allah is your return all together
and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ
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We are nothing, that's why we are One
By what kind of logic did you get from "nothing" to One? Nothing here means nothing . . . in the sense that Almighty is Eternal. We are not. He is unique - uncreated - and one. We are not.
So we are not one.
e.g some illustration and of course, far from being accurate . . just for some thoughts
sun and the sunlight . .
a likeness of Allah (sun, 1)
and the sunlight (creation, 0) . .the sunlight never exists (0) . . even if you can feel the heat and believe it exists
however, only the sun exists (1)prove http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqnEGu8VF8Y
So you are basing this on a video? Which you clearly do not understand. I am asking about the Quran and you present this?
Of course Sunlight exists if the Sun exists - it is "Sunlight is a portion of the electromagnetic radiation given off by the Sun, in particular infrared, visible, and ultraviolet light."
We already know that Sunlight and Sun exist. Wrong analogy, pal.
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. (33.4)
Only one heart, and it is for Allah.
Saying this does mean you create "God" within you. I think you best layoff YouTube videos that you clearly do not understand. Helpful advice.
That is NOT what the verse is saying. One can have love of the Almighty and not create God within it. The notion is ridiculous.
I have explained, and you cannot understand . . and you will not understand, maybe forever.
Yeah that is true. I think you have been listening to something and have created your own understanding. I doubt if anyone will understand you . . .
Either way, there is no one can make any of us to understand what we are not supposed to understand.
Whatever it is , those who submit and communicate with the Sunnatullah will understand
And you cannot guide the blind away from their error
You will only make hear those who believe in Our verses
so they are Muslims
(6.162)Oh - the ugly sectarianism raising its head up again . . . of course it always others that are misled . . . an not you!
sun
Flower . . . I think you live in a world all on your own . . . a galaxy far, far away.
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Can you say that all practices in Buddhism is injustice?
Can you say that all practices in Christianity is injustice?
Can you say that all practices in Judaism is injustice?
Can you say that all practices in Hinduism is injustice?
Can you say that all practices in all religions are injustice?
Only the Religion of Islam is justice to the humanity
and . . .
Can you say that Allah is opposing justice?
This is my prove . . that Religion of Islam (sectarianism) is the opposite of Deen of Islam (peacemaking).
More prove? . . look at Islam itself . . . how many denominations?
By God
Bigot
Bigotism
Sectarianism
Sorry - but how is this proving that "religion" is "generalization"? This is contrary to the Quran
"Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in account."
As to your above list - all of the above ARE injustice - in the sense that if they do not believe in One God.
This is my prove . . that Religion of Islam (sectarianism) is the opposite of Deen of Islam (peacemaking).
More prove? . . look at Islam itself . . . how many denominations?
So you have trouble between "religion" and "sect". Look at your own quote - it is confused. On one hand you say Islam is sect then you say it is religion.
The trouble is - you do not really know what logic is and how it works. The fallacy generalization is something completely different.
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And We have revealed to you
the Book in truth
confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture
and as a criterion over it
So judge between them by what Allah has revealed
and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truthTo each of you
We prescribed a law and a methodHad Allah willed
He would have made you one nationbut to test you in what He has given you
so race to good
To Allah is your return all together
and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ
(5.4So what are you saying by this? That "Islam" is not the only religion? And that Christianity and others today have validity? Then that is incorrect.
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By what kind of logic did you get from "nothing" to One?
and by what logic did you get 1 + 0 = 10 ?
So you are basing this on a video? Which you clearly do not understand. I am asking about the Quran and you present this?
Of course Sunlight exists if the Sun exists - it is "Sunlight is a portion of the electromagnetic radiation given off by the Sun, in particular infrared, visible, and ultraviolet light."
We already know that Sunlight and Sun exist. Wrong analogy, pal.
It is still an atom . . matter
Prove your own existence . . . as an Ahad !
Don't just say it. . prove it!
If you cannot, then don't claim absolute truth since the proof have been presented to you . . simple.
and . .
Don't just ignored every evidence that I gave and then came up with new questions.
Counter every arguments I make in this thread . . make a counter argument and came up with proof.
Saying this does mean you create "God" within you.
I give up explaining to you since you are to blind with your self and cannot understand what people are really saying.
People are saying A, you are claiming that people are saying B. giveup
Oh - the ugly sectarianism raising its head up again . . . of course it always others that are misled . . . an not you!
Where do I concern of being right ? Is it important?
What I'm doing is asking for people opinions and testing whether their opinions are solid . .
Whether it is based on true and solid reasoning.
In facts, there are not once I said people are wrong . . unlike you.
I think you live in a world all on your own . . . a galaxy far, far away.
Nothing new . . . and not a proof for truth.
And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences,
those who disbelieve say to those who believe
"Which of two parties is best in position and best in association?"
(19.73)And do not be like she who untwisted her spun thread after it was strong
taking your oaths as deceit between you
because one community is more plentiful than another community.
Allah only tries you thereby.
And He will surely make clear to you on the Day of Resurrection that over which you used to differ.
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As to your above list - all of the above ARE injustice - in the sense that if they do not believe in One God.
Then that is incorrect.
You don't have to say it . . I already knew you would say it is incorrect, based on the Religion of Islam. Crystal clear.
sign of.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg346154#msg346154
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and by what logic did you get 1 + 0 = 10 ?
Still trying to play games, huh. Look what was asked of you
By what kind of logic did you get from "nothing" to One?
And now look at your response. Rather than answering - you were trying to be "clever" - and in doing so - you manipulated the question . . . so to appear "clever". But this has backfired on you.
No one asked you to add 1 and 0. What was asked
How did you get from Zero to One?
The question stands...
It is still an atom . . matter
Doh!
Ha ha ha ha...
Prove your own existence . . . as an Ahad !
Why should I? I never claimed to be "Ahad"!
Don't just say it. . prove it!
If you cannot, then don't claim absolute truth since the proof have been presented to you . . simple.
This is meaningless rambling and means Zilch.
Don't just ignored every evidence that I gave and then came up with new questions.
Counter every arguments I make in this thread . . make a counter argument and came up with proof.
You did not give "evidence". I am asking about the Quran . . . and you give out YouTube videos - possibly by an Atheist scientist?
You have made up some nonsense. This is why - right at the start - I asked you about Ahad and Samad and their meanings. Until now - you have failed to answer.
I give up explaining to you since you are to blind with your self and cannot understand what people are really saying.
There is no "people" - there is you.
With your made up nonsense. You watched a strange video and have seemingly invented some guff. Now you cannot explain it or prove it from the Quran.
People are saying A, you are claiming that people are saying B. giveup
Where? You have already made one baseless accusation against me. Now this is another.
Where do I concern of being right ? Is it important?
What I'm doing is asking for people opinions and testing whether their opinions are solid . . based on true reasoning.
In facts, there are not once I said people are wrong . . unlike you.
True reasoning? Where did you get that? What true reasoning?
You do not know 2 things about logic. . . so what reasoning are you applying?
In facts, there are not once I said people are wrong . . unlike you.
As for this - your whole spat with "Little Mannie " is a testament against what you claim.
Nothing new . . . and not a proof for truth.
Well, petal . . . look what you have left unanswered.
Go back . . .and either answer or leave it.
You need help! You do not know who you are . . . your name, religion, background, ethnicity, education, nothing. . . and you come up with sill theories!
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You don't have to say it . . I already knew you would say it is incorrect, based on the Religion of Islam. Crystal clear.
sign of.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg346154#msg346154
Once again. You do not know what you are saying. I think thoughts occur in your head . . . you write half down and expect people to get them! But - half of the get mangled and remain in your brain . . .
lol rotfl yay
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How did you get from Zero to One?
The question stands...
The question will always stand because you are simply making a blank denials and saying people are wrong
while throwing stones behind trees because you are so afraid, even to make one simple conclusion . . rotfl
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606172.msg346165#msg346165
and of course you will realize 1 (Allah) when you become 0 (you realize that you are nothing, no arrogance) . . funny
Sometime I wonder how can people like you can be a graduate . . . .
maybe the educational system is so bad and corrupted . .
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The question will always stand because you are simply making a blank denials and saying people are wrong
No dearest - it is because you cannot answer. Else why don't you explain . . . how did you get from 0 to 1?
No - do not refer to you previous comments - they're no good and do NOT contain any answers.
You are like all the others - you cook up some tin-pot theory and then expound it here. When questioned . . . it falls apart and then you go into this mode.
and of course you will realize 1 (Allah) when you become 0 (you realize that you are nothing, no arrogance) . . funny
I guess you are not Zero then! You have plenty of ego and arrogance. This is why you have trouble even answering what your name is . . . never mind your background.
See - when you said that you never call others "wrong" - here is more proof that you were not telling the truth.
Sometime I wonder how can people like you be a graduate . . . .
maybe the educational system must be so bad and corrupted . .
Ha ha ha - because people like me have studied "things" and we do not make up things.
You tried to add "logic" to your repertoire . . . but that has blown up too.
Now - this little theory that "we become God" is shirk. It is not supportable by Quran.
I pray the Almighty shows you the straight path. And I advice you to quit the silliness and nonsense. . .
There is a reason why you are too afraid to say WHO you are.
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We always missed something . . .
Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth
a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp
the lamp is in a glass
(and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star
lit from a blessed olive-tree
neither eastern nor western
the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not
light upon light
Allah guides to His light whom He pleases
and Allah sets forth parables for men
and Allah is Cognizant of all things
(2435)Have a look to the verse before it (2434)
Now We have sent down to you signs making all clear, and an example of those who passed away before you, and an admonition for the godfearing.
The verse is saying that God sent many signs that makes everything to be clear.
The next verse shows how stupid the disbelievers that they cherry pick some verses which is made for them indeed.
For verse (2435)
What is the light for ?
The light is for guidance.
Can we manage our life without the light, so we have the light to see and then we can move, but what if we were blind and can't see the way.
It is He who sent down upon thee the Book, wherein are verses clear that are the Essence of the Book, and others ambiguous. As for those in whose hearts is swerving, they follow the ambiguous part, desiring dissension, and desiring its interpretation; and none knows its interpretation, save only God. And those firmly rooted in knowledge say, We believe in it; all is from our Lord; yet none remembers, but men possessed of minds. (37)
And verily Joseph brought you of old clear proofs, yet ye ceased not to be in doubt concerning what he brought you till, when he died, ye said Allah will not send any messenger after him. Thus Allah deceiveth him who is a prodigal, a doubter. (4034)
Now as we can see that God sent us many evidences to show us the way but still some idiots if i may call them had stuck to one example made for them as to make an excuse for their disbelief.
Verily We have sent down revelations and explained them. Allah guideth whom He will unto a straight path. (2446)
O MANKIND! A manifestation of the truth has now come unto you from your Sustainer, and We have sent down unto you a clear light. (4174)
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Let say this man is very poor and praying to Allah for food . . .
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or this girl . . .
https//encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbnANd9GcR_pAC8bPcQB3Sew3X6LRSIZVpJTgfuopfY8hApXVNRP0XKsll_
and also this boy . . he is asking the Creator to help him . . desperately
https//encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbnANd9GcTquegRMmaM-khJP5QDfOjC1y8Yp7DGlBo_Q_ud8yptKtymL_PkiQ
Who will answer their prayers?
Who will give them food?
Allah?
How?
Show me . . .
He it is Who hath placed you as viceroys of the earth and hath exalted some of you in rank above others, that He may try you by (the test of) that which He hath given you. Lo! Thy Lord is swift in prosecution, and Lo! He verily is Forgiving, Merciful. (6165)
It is funny that you questioned the creator why he makes someone to be poor.
Did you ask yourself why God promised Israel to be a great nation ?
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I have asked you repeatedly - but you refuse to answer. And this question is serious
How do you assess what is from God and what isn't? Other than by Quran? Else, as I pointed out before - how are your messages any different from those of the Australian Jesus.
The issue here is that you do not believe that I follow the Message or The Book. I only mirror what is written in The Book for most part or it is paraphrasing if not pure copy&paste.
Red I am not sure why you compare me with some Australian "Jesus", and I do not even know what the man is preaching. If it would be to put your Faith in God and do good then I support him, although I would say that he could choose a better name for himself.
Blue This is a pretty silly question, is it not? How do you confirm anything without the help from God in the jungle of falsehood out there?In a way you do. How else do you think the Quran has been preserved. No one follows the Hadith - without proper and due care, analysis and assessment. This is why your arguments and stance is so lacking, insincere and shallow. It is just laziness - you do not really know what you are rejecting and why. In other words - you are just another sheep following others.
Now - if you can do try to answer rather than once more avoiding. . .
It does not matter how much you argue about your hadith, I will not follow it. I have read some of the hadith, but I have rejected it as garbage. And why do you say I am a sheep following others, that is ignorant to say the least. I come from an atheist background and I discovered about God based on my own thinking and I did not truly begin to study the Bible until I was in my 20's and I read The Book (Qur'an) first when I was 27 and I have accepted God's system and I do not make it more complicated than it is. I began a little with your practices when I was a bit foolish 4 years ago, but I broke the Satanic ties early after a few months and begged God's pardon. And now I do not do much more differently than when I was believing before I encountered The Book (Qur'an) for the first time. It has strengthened my Faith and I am certain about God now compared to that I had some doubts about my own Faith those years ago. I know God is really real and I fear Him lest I do wrong. Your dogma, zealotry or Islam will not change me into the religion "Islam".
Call it that I am not a Muslim or whatever you like. I follow God's system and the inspiration I gain from Him and I submit to The Lord and I pray that I am not misled. If I am misled it is I that am guilty and I do not make others guilty. I trust that all the good that I do and my struggle to become a good soul will avail me and that God will see me worthy of Guidance when I have sought His Nearness.
But I do not want to mix Truth with falsehood so I reject the hadith which I consider wicked to say the least. I am not even following strange writings of the Bible, nor weird interpretations of The Book.
Also, I have asked you this before - if you have a private belief system which is just limited to you - then why do you air it on a public forum?
I have to learn not to lose my patience and go into petty quarrels with people like you, but in fact the reasons I go unto this forum to preach the Message is because I take it as part of my service to God and that I see it as right. It is part of my private time and I could do something else instead of using my hours on this, but it is how I choose to be part of my service as well as doing good and being helpful when I do not sit here. And it is truly in vain to sit here and just argue with you.
I will likely regret spending an hour of my spare time with this response. It will likely be in vain.
It is why I usually only reply with "Peace" or something short to your aggressive and unfriendly remarks. Perhaps I see that I can guide you too, but verily I cannot unless The Lord wills. Likely I am better off with the reply "peace" than this.
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The issue is not about me . . . but what about the Quran is saying . . . angels prostate to Adam, and they are believers.
Believers should obey God.
For example believers are ordered not to eat pork except if badly in need,such as forced to or no other sources of food.
Believers should not prostrate for example to anyone on earth even the messengers of God,no one will prostrate for a messenger of God.
God ordered the Angels to prostrate for Adam and they have to obey and they did except Iblis refused out of arrogance which isn't that different from the disbelievers whom think that they are Gods.
One day i asked an atheist "will you pray to God if you know for sure that he does exist"
He said No i won't listen to him,he has no right to force me to worship him just because he had created me.
i asked him if for example you are requested to pray each day with daily payment of 1000 USD, and his answer was "no i won't accept".
It looks to me as a suicide and they want all others to follow them and they are trying hard in doing so.
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Peace FearGod,
One day i asked an atheist "will you pray to God if you know for sure that he does exist"
He said No i won't listen to him,he has no right to force me to worship him just because he had created me.
i asked him if for example you are requested to pray each day with daily payment of 1000 USD, and his answer was "no i won't accept".
Incredible. Talk about respect for someone who made you. No wonder children/teenagers often treat their parents like garbage. The problem is that many people who are atheists have a faulty perspective of what God is and think He is a tyrant who sits on a Heavenly throne expecting an unfriendly environment. To know that God exist ought to be an incitement to just serve the Lord out of love to Him. I am so glad that I am aware of God's existence and have full certainty.
God bless you
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Firstly, the angels did "object" . . .
And when your Lord said to the angels
"Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority."
They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood
while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
(2.30)No that isn't an objection but a question (Will you ?)
God answered the question "Verily, I know that which you do not know." (230)Where is the objection ?
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Did the malaika/controllers make sujud/obedience like this
http//www.koreanbuddhism.net/data/1/board/85/376/200604031144088157.jpg
http//blog.adw.org/wp-content/uploads/prostration-0fc6a.jpg
http//www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/67825-2/abr.jpg
I am witnessing the sujud/obedience of the malaika / controllers to Adam/man/me everyday, but it is never like the prostration you speak of.
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Did the malaika/controllers make sujud/obedience like this
http//www.koreanbuddhism.net/data/1/board/85/376/200604031144088157.jpg
http//blog.adw.org/wp-content/uploads/prostration-0fc6a.jpg
http//www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/67825-2/abr.jpg
I am witnessing the sujud/obedience of the malaika / controllers to Adam/man/me everyday, but it is never like the prostration you speak of.
hahaha, very nice post yay rotfl bravo
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Peace FearGod,
Incredible. Talk about respect for someone who made you. No wonder children/teenagers often treat their parents like garbage. The problem is that many people who are atheists have a faulty perspective of what God is and think He is a tyrant who sits on a Heavenly throne expecting an unfriendly environment. To know that God exist ought to be an incitement to just serve the Lord out of love to Him. I am so glad that I am aware of God's existence and have full certainty.
God bless you
Peace Man of Faith,
Yes brother, life is very short and the prophet warned people till his last days on earth to be aware of the judgement day, God bless us all.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Xc1MfX9X8
God indeed guides who deserves the guidance.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xhZ00xnHIA
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSYgxofw-b4