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    The_Chimp
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    Peace friends,

    I noticed there was a thread where it was being debated if Muslims should keep Shabbat or not, but I'm hoping this thread can be more about exactly how a Muslim would keep it.

    Because I agree a case can be made that it is part of Prophet Moses's revelation, and the Quran agrees it is, and also says people were punished for transgressing it.

    The question is how would a Muslim keep the Shabbat- by not working on it? By lighting the Shabbat candles, and other customs? I'm wondering if some of the sabbath keepers wouldn't mind sharing their observance of it.

    Peace

    Sabbath was part Prophet Moses's era. Not now - not during the era of Prophet Muhammad. If we were meant to keep it - it would have been prescribed. It isn't.

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      Yosef_1986
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      Salaam

      Please read http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606071.0

      Okay, all I saw mentioned on there was you saying the Quran speaks of keeping the Sabbath, but not how to keep it as some kind of objection against Quran. (Or am I misunderstanding you?)

      The Quran doesn't say if Muslims must or must not keep the Sabbath, but it does say we as Muslims believe in what was revealed before Quran (Torah, etc.), so I would think this not only suggests we keep Shabbat, but also says we can consult the Torah on how to keep it.

      Sabbath was part Prophet Moses's era. Not now - not during the era of Prophet Muhammad. If we were meant to keep it - it would have been prescribed. It isn't.

      Where does the Quran ever say not to keep it? In Surah 2 in addressing the Jews it never tells them to stop keeping what the Torah made incumbent on them, but to recognize this revelation confirms it, and even reminds them of God's punishment for transgressing the Shabbat

      I was hoping this thread could be about Muslims keeping Shabbat, and not a debate on rather its incumbent or not. If it is, I can only figure so far that we have Quran's instructions that its permissible to consult the Torah about it.

      May God guide us all peace

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        GODsubmitter
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        There is a lot of confusion about it, as well as about Salat, or any other religious practice it seems...

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          Man_of_Faith
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          Okay, all I saw mentioned on there was you saying the Quran speaks of keeping the Sabbath, but not how to keep it as some kind of objection against Quran. (Or am I misunderstanding you?)

          The Quran doesn't say if Muslims must or must not keep the Sabbath, but it does say we as Muslims believe in what was revealed before Quran (Torah, etc.), so I would think this not only suggests we keep Shabbat, but also says we can consult the Torah on how to keep it.

          Where does the Quran ever say not to keep it? In Surah 2 in addressing the Jews it never tells them to stop keeping what the Torah made incumbent on them, but to recognize this revelation confirms it, and even reminds them of God's punishment for transgressing the Shabbat

          I was hoping this thread could be about Muslims keeping Shabbat, and not a debate on rather its incumbent or not. If it is, I can only figure so far that we have Quran's instructions that its permissible to consult the Torah about it.

          May God guide us all peace

          It is absolutely NOT prohibited to keep a Sabbath on the seventh day of your week if you wish to show your devotion towards God this way. Quite the opposite, it is surely a bonus even if it happens that God has not had that as a mandatory thing at the advent of 'The Book' (Qur'an). Why would He forbid something which is an act of complete commemoration of Him for a whole day?

          I wrote on another thread about Sabbath and I gave my own practice of Sabbath each week as a little story.

          God bless you

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            Peacemaker
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            Peace friends,

            I noticed there was a thread where it was being debated if Muslims should keep Shabbat or not, but I'm hoping this thread can be more about exactly how a Muslim would keep it.

            Because I agree a case can be made that it is part of Prophet Moses's revelation, and the Quran agrees it is, and also says people were punished for transgressing it.

            The question is how would a Muslim keep the Shabbat- by not working on it? By lighting the Shabbat candles, and other customs? I'm wondering if some of the sabbath keepers wouldn't mind sharing their observance of it.

            Peace

            Isaiah is mentioned as one of the righteous prophets (in Surah 21, Surah Al-Anbiyah', The Prophets). In his prophecy, chapter 58, Isaiah speaks of Shabbat in contrast to the fasting the people had been doing. Instead, the people are admonished to let the oppressed go free, to share their bread with the hungry, care for the poor, etc.

            Then, Isaiah compares those who do these good things, and those who keep the Shabbat in honor of Allah, to people who repair a broken wall. I imagine this as repairing the wall of protection Allah has placed around His people by giving them good instructions which will guide and protect them.

            Finally, Isaiah chapter 58 makes a contrast between doing our own pleasure on Allah's holy day, and calling the Shabbat a delight, speaking Allah's words instead of our own.

            In summary, I find several ways in which to celebrate Shabbat

            1. It should be a pleasure but according to what Allah pleases, that is to treat others with mercy. (Every day, but especially when we have time to take a whole day in deeds of mercy)

            2. It should be a day of rest according to the Torah, in the sense of refraining from secular business. Allah founded Shabbat as a rest, not because Allah was tired (He never gets weary) but because Allah knows that we humans get tired, and so that we could dedicate a day to spend with Allah. Also to remind us that we are always sustained by Him (so we do not depend on ourselves but on Him).

            3. It can be a day to spend especially with family and children, because we are so often too busy to take time with children. But in spending time with them, it is good to stay away from the artificial things of our world, instead focusing on Allah and what Allah has made for us. Remembering that Allah has created us.

            4. Shabbat was re-instituted at the coming out from Egypt, when Allah judged the gods of Egypt, and gave rest from bondage. The people were reminded before Moses' death that they had come out of bondage, and as Allah had given them rest, they should share that rest with those who serve them (Deuteronomy 512-15) So we should remember that Allah has given us freedom by forgiving us when we confess to Him, and we should share that freedom with others. Also, in practical terms, we should seek to lighten others burdens especially on Shabbat so they too can experience rest.

            Lighting Shabbat candles and such customs can be helpful for you to experience the rest, but keep uppermost the revealed instructions Allah has given, so that our customs do not detract from the purpose of Shabbat. While we remain on earth in this life, we all have burdens and hardships, but Shabbat can be a weekly reminder of the rest and joy of living in Allah's presence in the future.

            Peace

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              Isaiah is mentioned as one of the righteous prophets (in Surah 21, Surah Al-Anbiyah', The Prophets). In his prophecy, chapter 58, Isaiah speaks of Shabbat in contrast to the fasting the people had been doing. Instead, the people are admonished to let the oppressed go free, to share their bread with the hungry, care for the poor, etc.

              Then, Isaiah compares those who do these good things, and those who keep the Shabbat in honor of Allah, to people who repair a broken wall. I imagine this as repairing the wall of protection Allah has placed around His people by giving them good instructions which will guide and protect them.

              Finally, Isaiah chapter 58 makes a contrast between doing our own pleasure on Allah's holy day, and calling the Shabbat a delight, speaking Allah's words instead of our own.

              In summary, I find several ways in which to celebrate Shabbat

              1. It should be a pleasure but according to what Allah pleases, that is to treat others with mercy. (Every day, but especially when we have time to take a whole day in deeds of mercy)

              2. It should be a day of rest according to the Torah, in the sense of refraining from secular business. Allah founded Shabbat as a rest, not because Allah was tired (He never gets weary) but because Allah knows that we humans get tired, and so that we could dedicate a day to spend with Allah. Also to remind us that we are always sustained by Him (so we do not depend on ourselves but on Him).

              3. It can be a day to spend especially with family and children, because we are so often too busy to take time with children. But in spending time with them, it is good to stay away from the artificial things of our world, instead focusing on Allah and what Allah has made for us. Remembering that Allah has created us.

              4. Shabbat was re-instituted at the coming out from Egypt, when Allah judged the gods of Egypt, and gave rest from bondage. The people were reminded before Moses' death that they had come out of bondage, and as Allah had given them rest, they should share that rest with those who serve them (Deuteronomy 512-15) So we should remember that Allah has given us freedom by forgiving us when we confess to Him, and we should share that freedom with others. Also, in practical terms, we should seek to lighten others burdens especially on Shabbat so they too can experience rest.

              Lighting Shabbat candles and such customs can be helpful for you to experience the rest, but keep uppermost the revealed instructions Allah has given, so that our customs do not detract from the purpose of Shabbat. While we remain on earth in this life, we all have burdens and hardships, but Shabbat can be a weekly reminder of the rest and joy of living in Allah's presence in the future.

              Peace

              As far as I know - there is no mention of Isaiah in the Quran.

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                noble
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                As far as I know - there is no mention of Isaiah in the Quran.

                Issaiah is mentioned as Al Yassa3a

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                  FearGod
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                  Peace friends,

                  I noticed there was a thread where it was being debated if Muslims should keep Shabbat or not, but I'm hoping this thread can be more about exactly how a Muslim would keep it.

                  Because I agree a case can be made that it is part of Prophet Moses's revelation, and the Quran agrees it is, and also says people were punished for transgressing it.

                  The question is how would a Muslim keep the Shabbat- by not working on it? By lighting the Shabbat candles, and other customs? I'm wondering if some of the sabbath keepers wouldn't mind sharing their observance of it.

                  Peace

                  Sabbath or Sabbat means the resting day,but the story which says that God punished some tribes for working in Sabbath or that who worked should be killed is a fabricated stories in the Torah and misinterpretation in the quran.

                  Which verses in the quran that says God had called to kill who worked in Sabbath or that he had punished them for working in Sabath.

                  please read the verses about Sabbath very carefully.

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                    Peace friends,

                    I noticed there was a thread where it was being debated if Muslims should keep Shabbat or not, but I'm hoping this thread can be more about exactly how a Muslim would keep it.

                    Because I agree a case can be made that it is part of Prophet Moses's revelation, and the Quran agrees it is, and also says people were punished for transgressing it.

                    The question is how would a Muslim keep the Shabbat- by not working on it? By lighting the Shabbat candles, and other customs? I'm wondering if some of the sabbath keepers wouldn't mind sharing their observance of it.

                    Peace

                    recall the verse in which certian people were forbidden thinks lawful by ALLAH....
                    we have our own and holy-days and they have their own holi-days (holidays)
                    to each people what ALLAH has instructed them. find out what sabbah means and maybe ALLAH will help you understand inshallah.

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      Peace,

                      Keeping sabbath is not about keeping tradition as per se but a day of remembrance. We devote this day for God in every way and why the day is preventing any work to be done and it does not mean work in which you do in the service of God but work for money and to please your own ego. Of course the day was hijacked and you see a case of misapplication when Jesus was accused of working on the sabbath day and the Jews even killed people when they did not observe it while there is no compulsion in religion and Jesus also did his work in total devotion to God with no expectation of reward except from God.

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