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God loves you!...On one Condition!

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    GODsubmitter
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    God is Love, and everlasting, enduring Love for that matter!

    How can it be otherwise???

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      mohamad_itani
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      i feel that this subject of love is really complicated,and would need another twenty years of study or more.
      who knows ALLah knows best.still your explanations of it are right on , i cannot really see it any other way.
      peace

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        Man_of_Faith
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        I.e God loves justice.

        God bless you

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          diamantinehoneybunch
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          Does God love those who
          -don't establish/believe ritualistic prayer
          -don't do/believe traditional fasting
          -don't believe/doubt that verse 43 is about p******y
          -don't believe/doubt the traditional Prophet Muhammad is the same person as Muhammad/The Prophet in the Qur'an
          ?

          I am just curious.
          Please do not be angry.

          I think these 4 things bother me a lot.

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            huruf
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            Love is about the most elastic word in the English and other languages. It ranges from merely like, to absolute devotion and self-sacrifice.

            I think the word in most cases cited here as verb to love is h-b-b which in Arabic has a distinct connotation of liking. So before spreadin love or unlove, it would be clearer to make distinct of what kind of love, or rather of what exactly we are speaking. Love, like pieace, is one of those nice words, which ultimately are non-commital and just fill blnak spaces with meaningless pious blabber.

            Another thing that is very noticiable in the Qur'an is that when it speaks in those terms God likes or does not like, it always refers to doings, behaviour, it does nto refer to individual persons as such. For instance, it does nto say God likes christians or bani Israil or whatever, but says God, does not love wrong doers, meaning nobody is liked or unliked by who he or she is, but by what she or he does. It is always behaviour what God characterises, not a certain personality or belonging or name.

            That is a very important thing.

            So, in fact, God may like us in one aspect where we do right and dislike us in another where we do wrong. And God knows. God does not need to look at our appearance or label. He knows.

            Salaam

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              Man_of_Faith
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              Peace sister huruf,

              Thanks for pointing that out. I have tried to point that out before in my thread Nearness and Guidance as well as in other threads that behavior is way more important than which group you are from.

              If The Book (Quran) was revealed today, in the list of groops in a verse I forgot the number of chapter 2 "Muslims" would also be in the list. It just happened that he book targeted the crowd you know of in the book but these people would be mentioned specifically if a new revelation theoretically was sent down.

              God bless you

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                GODsubmitter
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                "For there are these three things that endure Faith, Hope and Love, but the greatest of these is Love."

                1 Cor, 1313.

                Thank you @huruf for the clarification, but that is an old orthodox doctrine (as also stated in the Bible of course), to love the sinner but not the sin (despise the sin).

                Peace.

                Glory to the uncreated God, the Eternal One!

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                  wasi
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                  Does God love those who
                  -don't establish/believe ritualistic prayer
                  -don't do/believe traditional fasting
                  -don't believe/doubt that verse 43 is about p******y
                  -don't believe/doubt the traditional Prophet Muhammad is the same person as Muhammad/The Prophet in the Qur'an
                  ?

                  I am just curious.
                  Please do not be angry.

                  I think these 4 things bother me a lot.

                  thanks to god these things are now clearly modified in my life by god

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                    Novice
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                    Does God love those who
                    -don't establish/believe ritualistic prayer
                    -don't do/believe traditional fasting
                    -don't believe/doubt that verse 43 is about p******y
                    -don't believe/doubt the traditional Prophet Muhammad is the same person as Muhammad/The Prophet in the Qur'an
                    ?

                    I am just curious.
                    Please do not be angry.

                    I think these 4 things bother me a lot.

                    Dear Sister
                    It is a normal procedure for a truth seeking person to go through acceptance and rejection in successive stages. Point to remember is that not to go that far that blessings of our creator cease to descend on us.

                    4137
                    Sahih International
                    Indeed, those who have believed then disbelieved, then believed, then disbelieved, and then increased in disbelief - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a way.

                    May God bless you, Peace.

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                      Jafar
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                      Does God love those who
                      -don't establish/believe ritualistic prayer
                      -don't do/believe traditional fasting
                      -don't believe/doubt that verse 43 is about p******y
                      -don't believe/doubt the traditional Prophet Muhammad is the same person as Muhammad/The Prophet in the Qur'an
                      ?

                      I am just curious.
                      Please do not be angry.

                      I think these 4 things bother me a lot.

                      It depends on whether YOU love those who
                      -Establish/believe ritualistic prayer
                      -Do/believe traditional fasting
                      -Believe that verse 43 is about p******y
                      -Believe the traditional Prophet Muhammad is the same person as Muhammad/The Prophet in the Qur'an

                      Forgive and thou shalt be forgiven.
                      Love and thou shalt be loved.
                      Whatever you wish that God would do to you, do also to others, that's the law.

                      Everyone earn what they deserve...
                      The evidence for that is in abundance all around you, you just need to observe..

                      Salam / Peace

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                        GODsubmitter
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                        It depends on whether YOU love those who
                        -Establish/believe ritualistic prayer
                        -Do/believe traditional fasting
                        -Believe that verse 43 is about p******y
                        -Believe the traditional Prophet Muhammad is the same person as Muhammad/The Prophet in the Qur'an

                        Forgive and thou shalt be forgiven.
                        Love and thou shalt be loved.
                        Whatever you wish that God would do to you, do also to others, that's the law.

                        Everyone earn what they deserve...
                        The evidence for that is in abundance all around you, you just need to observe..

                        Salam / Peace

                        Excellent @Jafar, as always!
                        Thank you

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