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When is Quranic day and night? The Quran answers...

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    Wakas
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    peace all,

    It is sometimes debated as to when is daytime (Arabic nahar) and night (Arabic layl) according to The Quran.

    The free-minds article on this is ok
    http//www.free-minds.org/Old/articles/science/quranic.htm
    This article is a little better
    http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/part_3/night_start_%28P1369%29.html

    However, in my view, it can be more simply demonstrated using two Quran references

    By the sun and its brightness.
    And the moon that follows it.
    And the "nahar" (daytime) that reveals it.
    And the "layl" (night) that covers it.

    "sun/shams" is a feminine noun
    "brightness/duha" is a masculine noun

    The "it" refers to a feminine object, thus clearly refers to the "sun". When the sun is covered it is layl/night, and when the sun is revealed it is daytime/nahar. Simple.

    Another verse I like to cite refers to the twilight period of dusk (i.e. when the sun disc is below the horizon but there is still some light in the sky)

    And a sign for them is the night/layl, We strip/peel/remove from it the daytime/nahar, whereupon they are those in darkness.

    This confirms and reinforces 911-4, that even when there is some nahar/daytime leftover, at this point of twilight/dusk this period is still referred to as the night/layl, i.e. the sun is covered = night/layl.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      David_Saidi
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      This confirms and reinforces 911-4, that even when there is some nahar/daytime leftover, at this point of twilight/dusk this period is still referred to as the night/layl, i.e. the sun is covered = night/layl.

      Good point Wakas.

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        mohamad_itani
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        the parts of time where sun sets but is still light is called "atraf el nahar" in the quran
        " wa sabih bi hamdi rabika kabla toulou3i el el shamsi wa kabla el ghouroub"
        "tarafi el nahar"
        the zone as i like to call it is clearly parts of the day.
        we might need to look into this further.
        peace

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          David_Saidi
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          the parts of time where sun sets but is still light is called "atraf el nahar" in the quran
          " wa sabih bi hamdi rabika kabla toulou3i el el shamsi wa kabla el ghouroub"
          "tarafi el nahar"
          the zone as i like to call it is clearly parts of the day.
          we might need to look into this further.
          peace

          I already discussed little about atraf al nahar in http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606296.0

          Have you had some clearness on this?

          Peace be upon you

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            i don't really see the word atraf to be more than two.
            but for arguments sake if we consider that the day has more than two hands " atraf " then we must also consider that the nite only engulfs the day ,so there are parts of the night that you can still see light in the sky if you look up especially in the summer and some clear winter nights .
            so the day is only engulfed by night .
            so the two "atraf" are not two ends. but they are a time where there is light with out the sun. mostly in two periods after sun set and before sun rise .
            and some of the night you might see light in the sky with out the sun. this could be another " taraf" in case you want to consider that atraf means more than two.
            please if you can bring further proof from quran that atraf should mean more than two .
            this plural singular in quran is very difficult to grasp ,and arabs have made sense of what they think the language is,yet quran is different one must really verify from quran and not from language.
            if the two atraf meet each other then we can consider them to be one taraf. it is changing according to the fact of what is happening not every day is the same.
            wow you made me go on booster thinking ,i really don't like that ,it takes a lot of energy from me. lol.
            it is the source of the pure language. i wish i knew more but it is all in the lords hands for us to see what we can ," Wa QUL RABI ZIDNI 3ILMA"
            the word " ATRAF" should be considered ,what might be the real translation?
            i think it might mean extensions ,even sometimes when one extension might meet the other ,they are extension .that is why i called atraf or taraf a hand ,an extension.
            i don't claim that this is true but i am thinking here.
            peace to you all and every one .
            may the lord bless humanity with his mercy.

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