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~ Finding Your Natural Birth-Day

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    R_H_-Ustahi
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    Finding your natural birth day requires a few simple steps.

    1. In the year you were born, notice the winter solstice before your birth day.
    2. Check the moon at the winter solstice, is it zero moon/dark moon?
    3. If yes, the first month begins with that moon.
    4. If not, take the first new moon after the winter solstice as the first month to count until the month of your birthday.
    5. Take a lunar calendar with Gregorian dates in it. (Ex. http//www.calendar-12.com/ ).
    6. Find your birth day, and the the phase and the age of the moon for that day (Ex. http//www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/1980/march ).

    The day of the moon of a certain month is your natural birth-day.

    For instance, my birthday according to Gregorian calendar is 29.March.1980

    Walking through the above steps 1-6, I find the date 13, 3rd Month of the Natural Year.

    So my true birthday is 13.03.NY. Now every year, I check for the date 13 of the 3rd Natural Month of the Year and thus find my precise birth-day. Of course this unchangeable date of the Natural time-keeping is different for each year of the Gregorian calendar. Thus, for this year my birthday is 14 March 2014. Whereas for the 2013, my birthday was on March 25th.

    That?s why Gregorian calendar is very unreliable and unprecise when it comes to distilling the days. Your natural and true birthday is the day the season and the phase of the moon match.

    One question is, what if your birthday falls on the 13th month of an embolismic year? *

    The answer is, you find your birthday in the 12th month of each other year of 19 year cycle.

    Peace and don?t be surprised when your family looks at you weird when you say when is your birthday this year

    Praise be to God. The Lord of the worlds.

    Gratefully,
    R.

    • The embolismic year is the year where there are 13 months. 7 such years are inside the 19 year cycle.

    This annex of NTM you may download here http//www.zgjidhja.com/?page_id=85

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      GODsubmitter
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      Thank you.

      It is interesting, but I do not know why would the exact day of a returning birth day be so important...

      I understand that it is important to use the natural calendar to establish the Sabbath, if Sabbath was not a symbolic term used in the Torah together with all other allegorical terms to convey a teaching, or a spiritual initiation into spiritual mysteries, probably same as the Qur'an and the New Testament.

      Praise be to God the Uncreated One

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        R_H_-Ustahi
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        It is more worthy to establish and learn the natural count of months, days and years.

        Birthday is one of the cycles. Hence it can be used as a drill to learn to count with sun and moon.

        Peace,
        R.

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          GODsubmitter
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          Thank you for the answer

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            Zulf
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            I guess one's birthday depends entirely upon what cyclic measure you use.
            Using purely lunar you'd be older (in numbers) than when using the solar. Using purely seasons your birthday would vary quite some every time.... so your birthday doesn't really exist in itself.

            Peace

            ;D

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              I guess one's birthday depends entirely upon what cyclic measure you use.
              Using purely lunar you'd be older (in numbers) than when using the solar. Using purely seasons your birthday would vary quite some every time.... so your birthday doesn't really exist in itself.

              Peace

              ;D

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                R_H_-Ustahi
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                I dissagree Zulf.

                Your birthday exists just as the fact that you do.

                The only question is Do you know how to measure your age, using time as God intended?

                Peace,
                R.

                I guess one's birthday depends entirely upon what cyclic measure you use.
                Using purely lunar you'd be older (in numbers) than when using the solar. Using purely seasons your birthday would vary quite some every time.... so your birthday doesn't really exist in itself.

                Peace

                ;D

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                  I suppose this is how Easter is still Easter even though it varies each year and can end up being in a completely different month. It's still technically the same date - the sunday after the full moon after the spring equinox.

                  My birthday is 19th May 1984, please tell me when my natural birthday is going to be this year then so I can get ready.

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                    Hello Rachel, actually as for the Easter, be prepared for some surprises

                    http//www.worldslastchance.com/yahuwahs-calendar/easter-pagan-passover.html

                    http//www.worldslastchance.com/videos#play518

                    Note WLC staff does not agree that Quran is a divine scripture, hence are the most professional "gray" community. One of the disagreements is the beginning of the natural year.

                    Now onto your birthday.

                    Your birthday is 19th May 1984.

                    First we have to distill the precise natural date measured by the moon, the sun and the season of your birth.

                    In order to do that we have to check the state of the moon in the winter solstice of the year 1983. Here it is

                    http//www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/1983/december

                    Since the winter solstice is always 21-22 Dec, the Moon of the solstice of prior to beginning of your birth year was just after the full moon (as you can see from the abovelink)

                    Now, the first new moon after the winter solstice would mark the Natural Month 1 of the year of your birth. And that is

                    http//www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/1984/january

                    The 4th January 1984 - The first/New Moon day of the First Month of the year of your birth.

                    Now from that point in natural time let's count the months and find the precise moonphase of your Natural Birth-Day.

                    We are looking for 19th May 1984

                    The second New Moon/the second month of your birth year was 3rd Feb. 1984 http//www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/1984/february

                    The third month began in 3rd March '84 http//www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/1984/march

                    The fourth month began in 2nd April '84 http//www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/1984/april

                    And the fifth month, when you left placenta of your mom, began in 2nd May '84 http//www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/1984/may

                    Now since May is your birthday, let's count the days and find your Absolute Natural Birth Day Counted via the Moon, Sun and Season.

                    Ready?

                    19th May 1984 was the Date 18 of the Fifth Month of the Natural Year. So, D18.M5.NY.
                    which is read The Eighteenth Day of the Fifth Moon of the Natural Year. That is your Absolute Birthday, which never changes.

                    Now each year the day floats in the Gregorian Calendar.

                    Let's see when is if for this year.

                    Following the same steps, we find that this year the first month began in 2nd January 2014 (the New Moon after the winter solstice), marked with the New Moon day. Hence, the 18th Day of the 5th Moonth of this year is 17 May 2014.

                    So the exact state of the moon and the season of 19 May 1984 is 17 May 2014.

                    Also, your next birthdays, 06 May 2015 since that Gregorian date matches your Natural Birth Day; then for the year after 24 May 2016; ..... etc.

                    So you get the idea.

                    1st step is to check the rapport between the winter solstice and the new moon after it.

                    Then count the moons until the day of your birth.

                    Peace, and Praise be to God, the Lord of the worlds.

                    R.

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                      Wow thanks. handshake

                      That makes it my birthday tomorrow! 2 days early!! yay

                      It is so interesting that you said "19th May 1984 was the Date 18 of the Fifth Month of the Natural Year. So...The Eighteenth Day of the Fifth Moon of the Natural Year. That is your Absolute Birthday, which never changes." Since my mum told me that I was actually due on the 18th not the 19th. LOL.

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