The Nature of Nature and The God of God
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Peace,
thank you Jafar for this!
I would like to add something to your worthwhile text.As far as I know everything is based on its particular frequency.
I think that our universe is just initiated by God, how God willed, and so runs everything on the natural laws. We can't falsify those but if we try there are consequences.
This universe has an end although it stretches but it will stop one day and the universe will begin to shrink. When it comes to a certain point the earth will be closer to the sky .. the sky will come closer to us. So the prophecy from physicians. -
For each of us, I am afraid, the universe is going to shrink pretty fast, on a private basis. A private session of universe shrinking. I mean, there will be others that survive our session, but we will not have to be there to watch the shrinking of the whole thing or whatever may happen.
Salaam
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I think that our universe is just initiated by God, how God willed, and so runs everything on the natural laws. We can't falsify those but if we try there are consequences.
Yes not only our universe but also trillion of other universe.
If we think our universe is soo big, that we even haven't seen and discovered all of it's 4.6 % (The see-able universe)
Then imagine our gigantic universe times one trillion....This universe has an end although it stretches but it will stop one day and the universe will begin to shrink. When it comes to a certain point the earth will be closer to the sky .. the sky will come closer to us. So the prophecy from physicians.
For each of us, I am afraid, the universe is going to shrink pretty fast, on a private basis. A private session of universe shrinking. I mean, there will be others that survive our session, but we will not have to be there to watch the shrinking of the whole thing or whatever may happen.
Whether it will stretch or shrink is still a mystery.
But one thing for certain, the expansion and continuous creation of space is or was accelerating in exponential manner.
It's hard to put proper 'tense' when it's related to this universe, since the signal that we received from distant galaxies is actually on what's happening there few million or billion years ago. And during that time, the species named Human was not yet in existence.
When one look at the sky, he/she is looking at history.Regarding those who supported the "shrinking" theory, there's one evidence.
We now have detected that Andromeda galaxy is approaching / becoming nearer in distance to our galaxy, which means around 2 million years ago the Andromeda galaxy was already approaching us. Thus probably the universe at the moment is already shrinking although we see it at the moment that it's expanding.Salam / Peace
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4.6% Atoms/Matter + 24% Dark Matter + 71.4% Dark Energy = 100% = God? Is that what you are saying Jafar?
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From a God who thinks like a man to a man who thinks like God. . .
For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, declares YHVH.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.
(Book of Isaiah 558-9) -
For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, declares YHVH.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.
(Book of Isaiah 558-9)The only contradiction is the observer. . .
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I have though & wrote about this before as my reasons of why I believe in a divine figure ie God
Reason #3) Formation of Matter, Energy, and Gravity
Most of this universe is made of unexplained, unseen Dark matter and Dark Energy that apparently plays a big role in the movement and stability of the universe. Who is this Dark, unseen energy?"God is the One who holds the heavens and the earth, lest they vanish. If anyone else is to hold them, they will most certainly vanish. He is Clement, Forgiving." (Quran 3541)
" He is the One who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon; each floating in its own orbit. (Quran 2133)"Do they not see the birds committed to fly in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them up in the air except God. This should be proof for people who believe." (Quran 1679)
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A God can not be created, just as a man can not give birth to a child, or a son can not become older than his own mom. As simple as that, it's the nature of existence.
The reason why we think God has a creator because we are living in space and time, God is beyond time otherwise we wouldn't be here and there is no universe at all (think of Prof. Stephen Hawking's analogy on positive and negative energy, if the man with a shovel did not start digging there would be no hill and hole). The beginning of universe shows that He has always existed because He is the reason why we being here. We can not use our logic to comprehend the existence of God because all laws of physics itself did not exist before Big Bang.
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Peace, Nashrullah84.
The reason why we think God has a creator because we are living in space and time, God is beyond time otherwise we wouldn't be here and there is no universe at all (think of Prof. Stephen Hawking's analogy on positive and negative energy, if the man with a shovel did not start digging there would be no hill and hole). The beginning of universe shows that He has always existed because He is the reason why we being here. We can not use our logic to comprehend the existence of God because all laws of physics itself did not exist before Big Bang.
This isn't entirely true. Many theoretical physicists and cosmologists are proposing that the Universe (meaning existence as a whole) is continually expanding and contracting. In other words, the Universe has potentially been 'created' and 'destroyed' countless numbers of times. The "big bang" only proposes the beginning of the Universe as we know it. We don't know what came before that; but it's possible that the "big bang" was the result of a previous "big crunch", which was the result of a previous "big bang", which was the result of a previous "big crunch", etc.
Peace,
Ahmad
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A good documentary about "Dark Matter" and "Dark Energy", for those who are interested on knowing about what/who move this universe.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTAUnwOvknc
So what makes this universe?
This universe is made of
4.6% Atoms/Matter (matter that we see, touch, hear from water to air to ground to metal to statue/idol, animals, human, planet, moon, stars etc..)
24% Dark Matter (we can't see, touch, hear it, yet all Atoms/Matter are attached to it, the dark matter is the one who 'pushed us down' to earth, pushed the Earth towards the Sun, pushed the Sun towards a black hole in the center of Milky Way, we named such phenomena as gravity, without Dark Matter there will be no atoms/matter and there will be no gravity )
71.4% Dark Energy (we can't see, touch, hear it, the one who expand the ever expanding universe, it's the dark energy who pushed the dark matter and we can see the results of his/her/it action through the movement of galaxies away from each others and up until now created 'new space' every second).So that's the Nature of Nature or the "Nature of God that we can perceive in this Universe".
And remember there's another Universe besides our / this Universe.
How many? trillion perhaps unlimited of other Universe in existence.By this understanding, I hope no one will ask "Where Is God?" and expect X,Y,Z coordinate.
Just like Dark Matter and Dark Energy, God is here, there, everywhere in this universe.
And unlike Dark Matter and Dark Energy, God is also exist beyond this universe.lol Yeah? God is everywhere in the Universe? Out there everywhere? Filling up the vaaast Universe? lol very funny!
What evidence does anyone have of the existence of any such vastness? Can anyone access it? All we have access to is the information that makes up our experience. God is nowhere but here, and here is God, the place, nowhere.
Where is the information you are experiencing located? God. Is the perception of "depth" or "distance" anything that one can access really?
They say the "Earth is flat" haha they don't realize how true it is really, because all we have access to is a layer of information which can be considered "flat", including notions like depth and distance perceived by our eyes. Allah gave the XYZ coordinates "CLOSER to you than your jugular vein". There is no distance, no depth, its all illusory, its all information, which is what God creates, God is all there is, God is the place, there is no space, we are present with God, it is God who is looking, it is God who is determining, there is no one else, you are empty, we are alone, we are one, we are deceived, God is alone forever.