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  4. (Article) The Complete Guide to Quranic Service Prayer (Salat) الصلاة القرآنية ؛

(Article) The Complete Guide to Quranic Service Prayer (Salat) الصلاة القرآنية ؛

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    GODsubmitter
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    Thank you so much!

    I hope you are right.

    To me, what you said seems the best, and the most rational, natural and human format to do salat.

    I gave up the hope of finding the universal explanation of salat in the Qur'an, long ago.
    What is left, is that apparently everyone would ask the Creator for a personal, private explanation.

    Peace

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      hafeez_kazi
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        Wakas
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        peace,

        I did not read all your work, but I thought this point was reasonable

        What about translating (177 as to mean a noon prayer?
        The words in question here are "Duliki alshams", which can mean the rubbing of the sun (at horizon/sunset), or the decline of the sun from it's zenith. The problem with the traditional translators that (in order for them to get an afternoon prayer) translate this phrase as, the decline of the sun at zenith is that the verse tells us to pray all the way UNTIL the darkness of the night (Arabic Ila ghasaq alayl) , which means that these traditional translators have to do their service prayer FROM noon, all the way until after sunset NONSTOP!... (The word "ila" is also used during fasting instructions; This is why We fast FROM dawn, until sunset NONSTOP 2187)

        I have added it to my article on the common problems with 5 salat timings as per Quran (click).

        Thanks.

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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          ths
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          Very nice article QuranAloneRevolution. I'll save it for future use. Two points though

          First, I personally don't ascribe to the "marks on the forehead from prayer". I think it's possible to pray your entire life without developing the abhorrent zebiba

          Second, it's good that you're translating this into arabic. I think all such articles should be published somewhere in the arabic section? It's important to connect back to the arabic speaking internet crowd.

          As for dulook-il-shams, the interpretation of this as the afternoon prayer is totally disingenuous. I really don't understand how people can make that inference. Dulook means "to rub" or "scrub" something, and is still used today in that context. Not in slang usage, where the far more common masaha is used, but in formal arabic.

          From the arabic translation of the first Harry Potter book

          His nose was still very red from the rubbing his mother gave it

          What does "rubbing of the sun" have to do with the afternoon? Nothing at all. At least nothing i can think of. But what about sunset, when the sun is reddened and looks like it is being rubbed in the horizon? The analogy should be straightforward and obvious to anyone who has ever seen a sunset

          And as you pointed out, this explains the word "ila" in that verse. No one prays from the afternoon to sunset nonstop, but praying for the duration of the rubbing of the sun until the sky is dark is quite a fixed time period that doesn't require any complicated processes to figure out and can be done by anyone with a simple glance out of the window

          فَاسْتَبِقُوا الْخَيْرَاتِ
          So strive as in a race in all virtues! 5:48

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            Sabeel_Ameer
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              • After * Prostrating and ending salat, Praise and Glorify God (5040)

            Tasbeeh is in the salat, not after salat ended. After prostrating, there is tasbeeh.(5040) Then only after tasbeeh, the salat ends.

            Sunnis does not include the tasbeeh in the salat. Instead they recites the jewish athahiyaat. They do tasbeeh after ending salat.

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              ths
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              Sunnis do include tasbeeh in the salah. They say and

              فَاسْتَبِقُوا الْخَيْرَاتِ
              So strive as in a race in all virtues! 5:48

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                Sabeel_Ameer
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                Sunnis do include tasbeeh in the salah. They say and

                What i meant is they recite atahiyaat in tashahud, where it should be tasbeeh. They dont do tasbeeh there.

                And one doubt - Is tasbeeh farz/wajib in salat in sunni madhabs ?

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                  Can you explain your reasoning for why the tasbeeh has to be in tashahhud? I never knew this

                  As for fardh or wajib, I honestly don't know, but I would assume it is a fardh

                  فَاسْتَبِقُوا الْخَيْرَاتِ
                  So strive as in a race in all virtues! 5:48

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                    Sabeel_Ameer
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                    5040 is the reason why tasbeeh should be there. thats what i read in a scholar's (who take quran only) book.

                    In my knowledge, sunni madhabs does not consider tasbeeh is a farz. (but am not sure, thats why i asked u).

                    Hanbali madhab consider it farz, but shafi madhab does not consider it farz, thats what in my knowledge.

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                      Wakas
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                      5040 says...

                      5039-40 glorify with praise before rising of the sun and before setting of the sun and from the night so glorify Him and after ends of the acknowledgement/SJD

                      Thus, within and after would be the correct interpretation

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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