Nearness and Guidance -> Knowledge and Wisdom = Peace and Prosperity
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Peace,
Thanks for your words. I am nowadays sure that all it takes is a person who believes in ONE creator entity and who does good to qualify for The Master's kingdom. So summary is that it takes faith and good deeds and it is declared in the recitation that it is enough. God even says that "they say you have to be "X" to be accepted", but anyone who believes and does good will have nothing to fear. They follow the decree because it does not take barely reading it to know what the decree is. The only ones who dispute about it are those who received it while they know. It is a merciful and simple decree not difficult to follow really. People who follow the popular "Christian values" have practically grasped it. It is only that most people do not have faith except while giving God partners.
God bless you
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It is only that most people do not have faith except while giving God partners.
Indeed. That's VERY serious issue.
I believe my Christian friend knows that God is One,
but the problem is he insisted that Jesus = God.
For him, worshiping Jesus is the same as worshiping God. '(
His father is a Pastor.
Peace.
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For us, may be very hard to see our loved ones turn away from God. Especially if we perceive them as "good people" or "kind/nice people" by our limited knowledge as human.
I've ever tried many ways in order to make my Christian friend to realize the falsehood of trinity, long time struggle and so many discussions/debates between us.
I was hoping very much that someday he will realize that Jesus is not God. He was a very dear friend, so it's very hard for me to know that he's devout in worshiping Jesus.
After very much struggle in a quite long time and always fail, I finally quit my attempt. I have to trust upon God for his destiny.
God knows what I don't know. I should let God decides what will happen to His own creations.
(635)
If their aversion is hard on you (distress you), then perhaps you could make a tunnel in the Earth, or a ladder to the heavens, in order to bring them bring them a sign. Had God willed, He would have gathered them to the guidance; so do not be of the ignorant ones.(7311)
And leave Me to deal with the deniers who enjoy the blessings of life, and give them time for a while.(7411)
So leave Me alone with the one I have created.Those verses remind me to not interfere in the decision of God.
When I was still in my urge to change my Christian friend, then reading those kind of verses was pretty shook me, but over time I learned to accept God's decision over my friend.
I believe any type of attacks/critics from the atheist cannot change God's decree.
God knows very well what He decided for each of us.
Peace.
Salaam,
MashaAllah, very well said bravo
May Allah reward you the best and guide us on His path pr
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Kafir - Does it really means to reject or disbelieve?
I went into some serious thinking after philosophizing upon which people The Master will really place in Hell. I begun to think that the Arabic word 'kafir' does not simply mean reject/disbelieve, but it means much more. And more or less all instances with the word is in a negative context where its attributed targets have been doing very bad things, and not simply disbelieving in God. I have not yet found an instance of when God threatens of throwing someone in Hell except while doing some serious mischief.
Salaam,
I understood the word kafir from 234, easy and simple, alhamduliAllah. And disbelieving in Allah is not a kafir as per my understanding.
There are two things shown in 234,
1- Refusal of Allah's command.
2- Pride.These two things made him kafir.
If you notice the derivative of word is used in 3372 as means they refused, but still Allah did not called them kafir as He did for Iblis in 234 because they did not do takabbur .May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Salaam,
MashaAllah, very well said bravo
May Allah reward you the best and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanThank you, brother mmkhan. )
Note Correction for 635
If their aversion is hard on you (distress you), then perhaps you could make a tunnel in the earth, or a ladder to the heavens, in order to bring them a sign. Had God willed, He would have gathered them to the guidance, so do not be of the ignorant ones. (635)
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2- Pride.
Glad you bring this up.
I suppose many people fall into this "pride/proud/takabbur".
I tend to see that the suggestion such as
"You should be proud of yourself" <--- is actually a trap!
I think "being proud" is useless.
If we're able to achieve something, then what we need is thankful to Allah, and not need to proud over it.
Peace.
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Peace mmkhan,
Thank you for your elaboration. It is dangerous with the understanding that faithlessness is being Kaffir when you associate it with the passages of the recitation because they pronounce that they deserve the fiercest of punishments both in this life with the next giving the Kaffir of the Arab religious sects to show hate against anyone they deem not following their ways. The Master s against this sect-making against the previous receivers of the decree and yet Muslims make the same grand mistake by forming a sect and pronouncing themselves as Muslims in their ignorance whole while their behavior does not suit their claim. Islam is to go into balance/harmony with your Master and fight for The Master's cause to stop oppression and injustice, and if things are "in Islam/faithful/harmonious/balanced like in the prayer by Ebrahem (commonly translated secure by the root of iman). It is an honorable mission in an equally honorable decree. Will you say that these "jihadists" do that?
I propagate that the root s - l - m does not mean submit but rather meld with or go into symbiosis by a form of harmony and peace. You greet a believer with salaam just due to this reason. And you do not say to your brother "submit" (you dumb fool). You have another word for submit in Quran-Arabic and that is the one commonly used to refer to prostration(s - j - d). So I think some people on this forum were partially right with peacemaker, but not truly right. More like balance or into harmony-maker.
In symbiosis with the creator = peace and prosperity is the meaning whenever the combination with Arabic word islam is used and with 'Allah'. Submission is another topic. So when you greet someone 'salaam' you technically wish them peace and prosperity (through The Master). Submission accidentally entered into the word by misled clerics who know 'sujud' as prostration while it is the word to submit. But to tell them to humble themselves you use sujud. Historically a prostration is to humble yourself to someone which has caused its deep association with the word.
And may The Master continue to enlighten us.
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I understood the word kafir from 234, easy and simple, alhamduliAllah. And disbelieving in Allah is not a kafir as per my understanding.
There are two things shown in 234,
1- Refusal of Allah's command.
2- Pride.These two things made him kafir.
But, how can we accept/obey Allah's command if we don't believe in Allah?
I mean, if I don't believe in Allah, then I have no reason to accept/obey Allah's commands.
I can't obey someone who I don't even believe that he/she exists.
If I want to accept/obey Allah's commad, then I think first I need to believe in Allah.
Peace.
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Peace,
Did you not read my thread? The obedience to give is to make a balance (in the force) of God and to respect the creation that you live in that you may build faith (iman). God is good and if you meld with God so you shall become and a successful harmonizing means you will belong to God's "kingdom" so to say. "Melding", as I have begun to call salat now, provides you with Nearness and Guidance and you gradually belong more and more to God's domain or deen. There is no sect that is more "right" than the other because its simple rules are practically undeniable and it is only the conjecture that people really argue about. The five salat in traditional "Islam" and how or when to do them, or who was to be the leader after Muhammad which caused the Shia-Sunni wars.
Fundamentally all what is service to God is being a good and faithful follower and upholding a brief list of guidelines which interpretation depends on faith basically and what is in your heart.
An example is that Jesus said The teachings of Moses said that adultery is forbidden, but I say to you that one has commited adultery in their mind already when looking upon another woman with desire.
Jesus gave new light to the decree revealed to Moses in that regard.
I have said it before in this thread, God's system is dead-easy to follow yet so hard for most people because they make it hard. Remember 10 rules basically and you can live well with them in the light of God.
God bless you
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Glad you bring this up.
I suppose many people fall into this "pride/proud/takabbur".
I tend to see that the suggestion such as
"You should be proud of yourself" <--- is actually a trap!
I think "being proud" is useless.
If we're able to achieve something, then what we need is thankful to Allah, and not need to proud over it.
Peace.
Salaam,
I totally agree with you handshake
May Allah bless you pr
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Salaam MoF,
You are welcome bro.
Jihadists? I strongly believe that jihad means to fight/struggle against ourselves in the cause of Allah.
I personally think that the words 'aman' and 'imaan' has different meanings. I know it is from the same root, but the pattern set for both words are different.For example
Falak = Where something floating in space.
Fulk = Something which floats on water.Because of its root, both words has floating in it.
Malik = King from humans.
Malak = King from Jinns.Same way it goes for imaan and aman.
Imaan = Believe in something.
Aman = Security which you get on believing.I might be wrong on this imaan and aman, if so, may Allah forgive me and guide to the correct understanding.
And yes I agree with you on salaam and islam.You can take look at my understanding of Sajda.
May Allah bless you pr
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But, how can we accept/obey Allah's command if we don't believe in Allah?
I mean, if I don't believe in Allah, then I have no reason to accept/obey Allah's commands.
I can't obey someone who I don't even believe that he/she exists.
If I want to accept/obey Allah's commad, then I think first I need to believe in Allah.Peace.
Salaam,
Correct!
That is what people has to understand.
The one who does not believe in Allah cannot be a kafir. That is why I mentioned in my reply#255 as
And disbelieving in Allah is not a kafir as per my understandingOnly a believer can be a kafir not otherwise.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Peace,
It is just some small details not worth about arguing over, but I have found that words using the same root have nearly the same descriptive meaning and do not drift away from each other. Affixes, if you know this grammatical word, shape the words from the root to slightly change its meaning but never entirely and I have found that they keep their fundamental meaning. Any cases not true the interpretation of the recitation has been faulty and the words instead had the same meaning.
I suppose people have not accepted my discovery about ketaab yet, but I urge people to at least investigate for themselves as they may find out that I was right. In that case all affixes circulate around the root word that fundamentally means decree. Its correct meaning even occurs a few times in the monotheist translation whereas in other parts its meaning is following the traditional distorted meaning as book.
A riddle to break was its use in the alleged letter to the queen of Sheba, but in fact it is a decree (an order) that Solomon sends to the queen. And the scribe when you issue a loan is more of a jurist and the papers are a decree on the terms to pay back.
We follow the trap of the traditionalists if we do not challenge the problematic interpretations of the meantime between the revelation and now. So many ignorant people have tried to study it and also added their own conjecture without using their brains.
God bless y
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Peace,
Hypocrites are kufr
Those who sell Allah's words for a price/politics/position are kufr
Those who hide the truth of revelation are kufr
Those who stubbornly refuse to believe despite the evidence are kufr
Those who refuse to believe i.e., deniers after hearing.
How about mockers
A person can be kufr due to avoidance choosing not to know
A person that knows but is heedless/criminal
People that dislike portions of the Quran
Making halal haram and vice versa
Too arrogant to accept the word of God
Please feel free to comment on my two cents
God bless
peace
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Peace,
Thanks hawk99, but I had no trouble with which people are kufr. The issue is what the word means literally from Arabic to English. Reject is not accurate in my opinion as the kufr do more than merely reject. They corrupt and that was my first thought as I plowed through the recitation, but it does not suit the text grammatically. An atheist is not kufr merely for lacking faith but it takes a crime against the decree to be classified as kufr. You have to do something others suffer from to be a kufr.
The word is traditionally always associated with disbeliever and that is a danger because it invites to unfriendly behavior towards these people who lack faith but mostly do good as humans. The unfriendly behavior is against kufr in all instances to be harsh against them and that does not include your peaceful atheist friend of even Christian ignorant idolators.
The ones that are unfriendly when someone asks for harmony and peace are kufr in return (see islamists that consider faithless people unclean/unworthy of any respect). You can have more or less faith and even lack faith but there is no disbelief in God's creed. That is a misconception. Only word traditionally used is kufr and it always refers to someone who spreads mischief rather than disbelieve.
God bless you
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Peace,
Thanks hawk99, but I had no trouble with which people are kufr. The issue is what the word means literally from Arabic to English. Reject is not accurate in my opinion as the kufr do more than merely reject. They corrupt and that was my first thought as I plowed through the recitation, but it does not suit the text grammatically. An atheist is not kufr merely for lacking faith but it takes a crime against the decree to be classified as kufr. You have to do something others suffer from to be a kufr.
The word is traditionally always associated with disbeliever and that is a danger because it invites to unfriendly behavior towards these people who lack faith but mostly do good as humans. The unfriendly behavior is against kufr in all instances to be harsh against them and that does not include your peaceful atheist friend of even Christian ignorant idolators.
The ones that are unfriendly when someone asks for harmony and peace are kufr in return (see islamists that consider faithless people unclean/unworthy of any respect). You can have more or less faith and even lack faith but there is no disbelief in God's creed. That is a misconception. Only word traditionally used is kufr and it always refers to someone who spreads mischief rather than disbelieve.God bless you
Peace Man or Faith,
If a person denies out of their mouth and their heart 16/83 I would call this a personal decision and not someone
who spreads mischief but selfish/arrogant denial.I understand the repulsion of words that are misused or misunderstood, but misunderstanding and misuse can
be signs of ignorance and unfortunately we people operate with our understanding at that particular moment.
The unfriendly behavior towards folks that are deemed kufr is one such misunderstanding.God bless
peace
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God is good and if you meld with God so you shall become and a successful harmonizing means you will belong to God's "kingdom" so to say. "Melding", as I have begun to call salat now, provides you with Nearness and Guidance and you gradually belong more and more to God's domain or deen.
Brother, may I know what do you mean with "meld with God"? confused
Peace.
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So, what is the term for those people who don't believe in Allah?
Is there any Quranic term (Quranic word) for "disbeliever"?Peace.
Salaam,
Sorry, at the moment I don't know what it means. InshaAllah, I will share with you if Allah teaches me.
May Allah bless you pr
mmKhan