Ambition and the Quran
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Really ? Please read again . . .
Yes, really. Please read again...Therefore True Believers must have "wealth". . .
Those who do not have "wealth" cannot strive with their "properties"
It is better for them to feed themselves and not burdening other people, rather thanking about something else. . .
These are your replies and are exactly what I paraphrased in response 'the calling card of "true believers" is wealth, and the poor can go hang'. In fact, you're still saying it. If you don't agree with it, it would be great if you can scrounge up quotes in your other posts saying 'i think the poor should be taken care of because i don't think most poor people are lazy buggers who should get off their asses and feed themselves' and lay this entire side issue to rest...you know, stuff unlike ' the Disbelievers are those who . . . (are deaf dumb and blind) . . . They are mostly those who are poor, lazy, weak etc. . . .who have no ambition in life and living in their illusion.' I don't need to explain why and how this sentence is horribly wrong and riddled with generalisations plus weird connections galore, and having nothing much to do with reality and/or the quran. Your wide black and white brushstrokes cutting across whole swathes of people in varying circumstances is abysmal.
If you can't and want to stick to your guns which you probably will given your spotted history, it's no skin off anyone's back but it would be advisable then to go back to the '"circumstances" . . the "issue" of this thread'. Heed this well, because your usual games, inclusive of constant repetitive and off topic postings until you get the last word, are tiresome and earn you demerits.
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Yes, really. Please read again...
These are your replies and are exactly what I paraphrased in response 'the calling card of "true believers" is wealth, and the poor can go hang'. In fact, you're still saying it.
Actually, what did you understand when I said "those who are excel in major aspect of life and according to the injunction of Allah" ?
Is it about wealth alone ?
The wealth part is the answer to the issue of this thread, (refer here). .
The reality of today's world where almost everything needs money, vs. the Stone Age. -
You mean I have acted so oppositional that I have lost my right for guidance?
Can you please explain what I have done?
Is it not you who begun being arrogant, which is one of the worst traits God knows?
And also taking God's decreed words out of context just to fit into flawed arguments.
Who has lost sense perception?
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You mean I have acted so oppositional that I have lost my right for guidance?
Can you please explain what I have done?
Is it not you who begun being arrogant, which is one of the worst traits God knows?
And also taking God's decreed words out of context just to fit into flawed arguments.
Who has lost sense perception?
Since when this is about "you" and "me" ? confused
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And what does your verse have to do with the context?
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Actually, what did you understand when I said "those who are excel in major aspect of life and according to the injunction of Allah" ?
Is it about wealth alone ?
The wealth part is the answer to the issue of this thread, (refer here). .
The reality of today's world where almost everything needs money, vs. the Stone Age.Like I said, lay it to rest or get back to the topic. If this is getting back to the topic, it is not a response to my post and shouldn't be addressed to me. If this is a response to my post it is not laying anything to rest so...get back to the topic. If you do not understand this concept, please PM and do not derail this thread any further. Thanks.
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Like I said, lay it to rest or get back to the topic. If this is getting back to the topic, it is not a response to my post and shouldn't be addressed to me. If this is a response to my post it is not laying anything to rest so...get back to the topic. If you do not understand this concept, please PM and do not derail this thread any further. Thanks.
Okay. . .
"those who are excel in major aspect of life and according to the injunction of Allah" = wealth confused
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Peace,
In the context God means those who believe they acquired all their possessions due to their own cleverness.
Just like the verse with the two men with gardens.
That is why the pasting of that verse here was out of context.
Anyway the topic derailed completely and we are not answering the questions of the author of the thread.
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Anyway the topic derailed completely and we are not answering the questions of the author of the thread.
For you . . maybe , but not for me because I'm highlighting the importance of "sense perception" and the "reality" as the determining factor of a True Believer. . I'm highlighting the importance not to see ourselves as self-sufficient, and the importance to be ambitious in our lives so that we can strive our properties for benefiting the society and humanity; ie. larger scale of righteousness. . . and not just 1-2 peoples.
Therefore, it is not a difficulty for the wealthy to reach in heaven. . it is what Allah has commanded us to do in the Quran.
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It is not more or less difficult for a rich person to enter Heaven. In fact the money often become a distraction just as all other earthly possessions.
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As always in your encounters you forget that kindness and good behavior is a huge portion of your faith and charity that comes with bad behavior is more or less nullified. So even if you gave 7 billion dollars but was a very nasty person to people it would mean but little.
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It is not more or less difficult for a rich person to enter Heaven. In fact the money often become a distraction just as all other earthly possessions.
I believe this pattern of thinking is okay if you live by yourself in this world . . but it doesn't work that way.
The system of Allah in the
requires many people to thank us because we have helped them
It is their prayer for us. . . (their vote to raise us as a Khalif)
The more we help and have people appreciate our existence, the more we are grateful to Allah.
In other words, it is like we say to Allah. .
"O Allah, look here!! I bring witnesses that I have helped them.
I am grateful for the life (sense perception) you have given me.
Please help me and show me the straight path. "Now. . what would happen if you have http//s.tfcdn.com/images/facebook/fb-like-icon-small.png10,000,000 votes to Allah ,
and becoming your witnesses in this life and in the Resurrection Day ?Would Allah be pleased with you ?
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Too true brother hawk. The best ambition is to strive in the cause of God in whatever way one can. That distinguish one with faith against those who only talk.
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I thought of the saying "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
My greatest ambition is to please God and obtain paradise.
God bless
peace
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Yes, but you are blindfolded that it has to be monetary fund. I gave examples what is a contribution to the society and it is worth as much as your beloved money.
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Yes, but you are blindfolded that it has to be monetary fund. I gave examples what is a contribution to the society and it is worth as much as your beloved money.
Because the context of this thread is about "money". . . wealth, and we live in the world where almost everything needs money. We are not living in the Stone Age.
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Yes and so did the world while the recitation was revealed too. And wealth is a trap as so much else.
And the wealth is unevenly distributed over a tiny portion of people and we have technology to make no one barely work and we could live fairly well by simply splitting everyone's possessions evenly and live together as a community. But the society does not do that.
I was a very rightish person some years ago and now I am like a communist because I think that is the kind of system that is most compatible with God. The concept of communism is good but it has been implemented mainly in dictatorships and not really been communism at length. Just "in disguise".
It does not matter if it is a king or group of people, as long as elected, a similar kind of system would be the best. The government should own all companies and its people evenly share the profits and work evenly at them.
So wealthy people should not be required. Only a wealthy country and evenly shared provisions.
You said it yourself that we have an advanced monetary system and advanced technology to be able to have great wealth for everyone.