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Why do you beleive the Quran to be the Word of GOD?

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    Rev_John
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    I was counting in binary system.... 10 is actually 2.

    Anwar Azim

    Yes it is, that took me back a few years! rotfl

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      unknownuser
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      if it wasn't the word of ALLAH why is there a great "religious" following? people are dedicating their lives to islam living and dying as only followers.....seriously?

      do you really have to ask this question?
      i understand if you didn't picture the whole
      may ALLAH guide the believers.

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        Student_of_Allah
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        Shalom Aleikhem,

        if it wasn't the word of ALLAH why is there a great "religious" following? people are dedicating their lives to islam living and dying as only followers.....seriously?

        do you really have to ask this question?
        i understand if you didn't picture the whole
        may ALLAH guide the believers.

        Logical fallacy in your reasoning Argumentum ad populum.

        From wiki "In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people&quot is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it. In other words, the basic idea of the argument is "If many believe so, it is so.""

        As Bill Maher would put it This is the logical equivalent of saying "Eat shit!! 20 trillion flies can not be wrong""

        And about people being dedicated and even dying Isn't that the same for virtually all religions? Forget religion, let me give you one example for now. Do you know about heaven's gate cult? These people believed in aliens and actually carried out a mass suicide for that. There are many such cults. So what? Now their beliefs are true as well?

        PEACE
        ------------- Student of Allah

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          Yamibato
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          Besides all those,
          it is a very practical book... rarely you may find a religious book like Qur'an to be practical in this age.

          So that definitely makes me love that book even more ❤

          Peace.
          Yami.

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            JavaLatte
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            So that definitely makes me love that book even more ❤

            Very nice statement!

            Peace.

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              Man_of_Faith
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              Peace,

              It contains virtually no nonsense and after becoming more wise I have seen that I am more blessed. It is one of the most misinterpreted books in the world, but the more honest one is to the truth the more clear it becomes. It was written down by a human, but he was channeling inspiration from God and one can sense that while reading it.

              God bless you

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                Existential1
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                As Bill Maher would put it This is the logical equivalent of saying "Eat shit!! 20 trillion flies can not be wrong""

                Mad props on the Bill Maher quote. Watch that show every week.

                peace

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                  muslims
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                  Allah has already presented His argument. It is now the time for a counterargument.

                  Therefore the question

                  IS NOT

                  Why do you believe the Quran to be the Word of GOD?

                  BUT

                  Why do you believe the Quran is NOT the Word of GOD?

                  Can people counter Allah's arguments?

                  This is the issue, and it is absurd for people to repeatedly ask for the main argument through blank denials; and without presenting any counterargument.

                  . . .

                  and . . . how to counter Allah's argument?

                  Say, "If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur'an,
                  they could not produce the like of it,
                  even if they were to each other assistants."
                  17.88

                  Or do they say, "He invented it"?
                  Say, "Then bring ten surahs like it that have been invented
                  and call upon whomever you can besides Allah , if you should be truthful."
                  11.13

                  Do they find any Book like the Quran ?

                  If there is none, or none has ever existed since the beginning of mankind . .

                  They have to obey Allah.

                  Conclusion

                  And

                  you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant

                  produce a surah the like thereof
                  and call upon your witnesses other than Allah ,
                  if you should be truthful.

                  But if you do not
                  and you will never be able to
                  then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.

                  2.23-24

                  Therefore. . .

                  Issue

                  Why do you believe the Quran is NOT the Word of GOD?

                  Counterargument (how to counter Allah's argument)

                  Produce one like the Quran, without any inconsistency and amendment
                  and corroborating with history, science, nature, universe, future etc. . .

                  ELSE. . . obey Allah!

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                    huruf
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                    Really I do not know of anbody who has attempted to produce a book like the Qur'an. Those who dispise it would feel it was beneath their "dignity" to write such a thing. And those who say they have read many things better than the Qur'an really do not know the Qur'an, they are Qur'an blind becaused they have already boxed it in some slot marked "blabber". In order to read the Qur'an, the real, you have to leave outside all preconceived notions and be utterly honest. It is not for nothing that the Qur'an says that only the pure can touch it. Sice the Qur'an is in the memore, the touching is not of course of some paper but of its content.

                    And the ore we leave behind ruminated stuff when dealing with the Qur'an, the better for us. I am grateful to God that so many quandaries of principle I have met the Qur'an has answered clearly and purely. It is at the particular service of none and it is a light for each person who seeks honestly.

                    Alhamdulillah

                    Salaam

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                      Existential1
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                      The experience with the Quran the first time I read it, was very inspiring for me. I powered through it in a week and a half, and by the time I finished reading it I knew I was a Muslim. I had never, and still have never, read something that made me feel an intrinsic sense of guilt for my previous actions and ignorance. Since then, I have read the book front-back again, and continue to read it now. I constantly come out of my reading feeling as though I know and/or understand more about how God wants me to serve Him. And I always feel obligated to apply my new-found knowledge.

                      I've read a lot of books, many with great lessons. But none have affected me in the same way as the Quran.

                      peace

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                        And those who say they have read many things better than the Qur'an really do not know the Qur'an,

                        But none have affected me in the same way as the Quran.

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                          Ikrame
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                          I think it s inspired by the creator. When i read it it speaks to me and i like that not really the best argument but my feeling and intuition stands high for me
                          peace peace

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            Peace Ikrame,

                            I am just waiting for the day when you can read my interpretation and translation of the recitation (Quran), God willing. Then you will never doubt that it was inspired by God.

                            So far any inconsistency has been due to people unable to interpret the old Arabic words correctly. Do not lose faith because it seems to tell you something irrational such as cutting hands of thieves or walking around a black cube in a city called Mecca or praying towards it or making "pilgrimage" there or being beaten by husbands or many other things. And there is still falsehood in it (the interpretation) needing to be solved.

                            God bless you

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                              JavaLatte
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                              my feeling and intuition stands high for me
                              peace peace

                              Me too, sis! *high-five

                              Peace. peace

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                                huruf
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                                I think I read Agatha Christie to say about intuition that it is the summing up at any given moment of things one knows but cannot show a registry of each thing one knows. Not her words, but I think her meaning. Intuition is like the update of our objective experiences. If others need proof of what we say through "intuition" and we cannot give it, it does not mean that it is false, but that we cannot keep account of everything we know. Sometimes we know wrong and intuition fails us, but overall I would give it a good record.

                                Salaam

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                                  JavaLatte
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                                  Agatha Christie?

                                  I like her fictional character "Hercule Poirot".

                                  http//media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ad/66/13/ad6613f73c964e68ac9593313a834189.jpg

                                  Reminds me of the moustache too...

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                                    Ikrame
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                                    Peace Ikrame,

                                    I am just waiting for the day when you can read my interpretation and translation of the recitation (Quran), God willing. Then you will never doubt that it was inspired by God.

                                    So far any inconsistency has been due to people unable to interpret the old Arabic words correctly. Do not lose faith because it seems to tell you something irrational such as cutting hands of thieves or walking around a black cube in a city called Mecca or praying towards it or making "pilgrimage" there or being beaten by husbands or many other things. And there is still falsehood in it (the interpretation) needing to be solved.

                                    God bless you

                                    peace,

                                    i agree that would be nice to read it. Where can i find it..

                                    peace

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                                      Ikrame
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                                      Me too, sis! *high-five

                                      Peace. peace

                                      High five sis! laugh

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                                        JavaLatte
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                                        High five sis! laugh

                                        ;D

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                                          huruf
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                                          Agatha Christie?

                                          I like her fictional character "Hercule Poirot".

                                          http//media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ad/66/13/ad6613f73c964e68ac9593313a834189.jpg

                                          Reminds me of the moustache too...

                                          Seems like and unlikely author to mention here but the fact is that that explanation of intuition struck me as probably true, though of course emptied it of mistery.

                                          Salaam

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