We are God
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Harmony brother Godsubmitter,
It was merely a joke based on my post before it about "if God wanted".
God bless you
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Harmony brother Godsubmitter,
It was merely a joke based on my post before it about "if God wanted".
God bless you
Thanx for the info.
Peace brother
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And as far as I remember Pharaoh claimed the people in Egypt should worship him, he did not say he was God. He did not believe in what he saw as the one god of the Israelites - why would he claim to be something even he didn't believe in?
Salaam,
Blue He did
7924And no we are not God we are mortals.
Salaam,
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And as far as I remember Pharaoh claimed the people in Egypt should worship him, he did not say he was God.
7924 He said I am your lord, the most high.
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7924 He said I am your lord, the most high.
Okay, thanks.
Still the same point tho. We have had people declaring themselves to be Lords over the people, demanding unquestioning obedience for centuries, but it doesn't usually come with 'I, Lord X am God/the God/the creator of the universe'.
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I wonder if you know that this is satanic symbol? It represent Eye of Horus, sun god of ancient egypt?!!!
http//3.bp.blogspot.com/_fhM-R45a44g/TQetRVjsnTI/AAAAAAAAGWY/hS3d6XVFWIU/s1600/18ktpyramid%2Bpendent.jpg
Jane, satan worshiper ;D
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Be careful with any kind of symbols which people made to represent their beliefs.
However, looks like everyone who believe in God has their own personal way to be closer to God.
As for me, I don't perceive myself that I'm God or that we are God, that kind of belief doesn't match with me. I don't see any good or any benefit in feeling and/or thinking such thing.
My relationship with God is simple. He's my Lord and also my Sustainer, while I'm His servant who are taught to be grateful. What God wants from me is I have to submit to Him and obey Him according to my ability, and I should be patient and steadfast along my purification process on earth.
Peace.
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That's rude don't call someone satan worshiper
'( I feel sooo bad now.......No I don't actually, it was just a joke.
Be careful with any kind of symbols which people made to represent their beliefs.
I have spend hours, weeks if not months study occult and sybmolism and what actually represent and I dont care if they feel insulted, truth hurts sometimes.
One Eye Symbolism actually represent Eye of Providence aka Eye of god, but this is not God muslims worship but pagan sun god of ancient egypt, Horus. From here also comes christian trinity doctrine, Father, Son, Holy Spirit = Osiris, Horus, Isis
http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Pontormo_-Cena_in_Emmaus-Google_Art_Project.jpg/150px-Pontormo-Cena_in_Emmaus-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
Story of Horus, Isis and Osiris = http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris_myth
This vatican obelisk actually represent erected male organ of Osiris
http//www.whale.to/b/obelis71.jpg
http//www.raidersnewsupdate.com/leadstory70.htm
Statue of Liberty in NY was also dedicated to Satan, roman goddess Libertas.
http//i1.ytimg.com/vi/CyF1mTBPlOE/hqdefault.jpg
I can talk days about this and symbolism behind it, so noone will post any satanic symbols and claim to represent God. God do not need symbols and statues.
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I have spend hours, weeks if not months study occult and sybmolism and what actually represent and I dont care if they feel insulted, truth hurts sometimes.
What I said in Reply #73 in this thread is not addressed specifically to you, brother, and also not because I think that criticizing such symbol may hurt/insult other.
I also don't support such symbolism.
I think it is better not using special symbol to represent our belief (or in our relationship with God), because I tend to believe that using such symbolism is not appropriate.
My advice is to everyone, to be careful, because I suppose we should not using and/or admiring and/or promoting such symbols.
I don't like what people usually know as "special symbols" because those symbols also usually being used as talisman/amulet.
God do not need symbols and statues.
I agree.
Peace.
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Perhaps you can open a new thread for symbolism, and sharing what you know.
Maybe I will, but here is the article (I posted above already) http//www.raidersnewsupdate.com/leadstory70.htm, which explains a lot about secret symbolism and why I said that USA is dedicated to satan himself. You should read full article is very interesting, not even freemasons dare to reject it. D
If you have read Apollyon Rising 2012 The Lost Symbol Found and the Final Mystery of the Great Seal Revealed by Dr. Thomas R. Horn, then by now you have learned an important secret concerning the capital city of the United States. According to the world?s foremost authorities?including Robert Hieronimus, United States official records, and even Freemason scholars?Washington DC was designed as a symbol of the Rosicrucian dream shared by its builders that America would become the New Atlantis and eventually lead the world into a restored Golden Age of Osiris.
Your suggestion is very good but there is so much material that I dont know how to put all inside one limited post
EDIT Just one more interesting image
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Peace,
To go back on topic, the theory is..well...strange. A few questions are to be asked
- Do you consider yourself to not have a beginning?
- Do you consider yourself constant, absolute, never ending?
- Can you function without sleep?
- No weariness touches you?
- Are you everywhere at once?
- Do you have all knowledge and data - all that was, all that is and all that will be and all that is changing as you read this question?
If you have answered "No" to any one of those questions, then you are quite conclusively, not God.
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Peace,
To go back on topic, the theory is..well...strange. A few questions are to be asked
- Do you consider yourself to not have a beginning?
- Do you consider yourself constant, absolute, never ending?
- Can you function without sleep?
- No weariness touches you?
- Are you everywhere at once?
- Do you have all knowledge and data - all that was, all that is and all that will be and all that is changing as you read this question?
If you have answered "No" to any one of those questions, then you are quite conclusively, not God.
I feel like I agree here. I don't think we are God, but we are a manifestation of His will.
As far as symbols and all that stuff goes, I believe individuals may choose to use them as remembrances of events in a similar fashion as words normally do.
I'll give an example....with the ankh. A lot of Afrocentrists enjoy wearing ankhs or having ankh paraphernalia as a remembrance of history and scholarly feats pre-Greco/Roman(read Anglocentric Golden Age) times. In ancient times, it is believed, it was the symbol for eternal life and many Egyptian gods were portrayed holding it, as were mummies in sarcophagi. I would argue that though the symbol at some point conflated gods with God or a Godly attribute, that doesn't mean all people who choose to recognize it for something are putting something to equal value with God.
When I look at an ankh, I instantly think of the story of Moses in the Torah and the Quran. The pharoah, who believed himself to be following the correct god(s) with their symbols and things, effectively lost to the God we believe in and submit to. I see an ankh and it reminds me of God triumphing over an ignorant person. Is that holding a symbol as equal with God? I think not. That symbol reminds me of a situation told in the Books. Is it better than reading? No. But I feel like being reminded of something God did, or even of God Himself with no equal, by a symbol is not really a problem to me.
What's the difference between a symbol a man, who God created, remembering God through an item the man created with materials God made, and that same man remembering God by looking at a beautiful house he built? To me, there is no difference. God created it all, and as long as you remember that, there is no problem with "symbols."
It's all about context. If you (not anyone specifically in this thread) choose to be narrow-minded about symbols and stuff, you can say they're all forms of shirk. But we aren't really narrow-minded in here are we?
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I doubt that many religions thought to be politheistic are basically that. I think most religions started with tawhid and then all of them, included Islam derived in giving independent life to other "gods", that is, someone or something they fear as allpowerful. That is not in the religion itself but is a "natural" degeneration of peoples and societies, like we are subject to disease and sickness, spiritually we are subject to the dangers of association and idolworship. Conflating any ancient religion with grecoroman paganism as "politheism" has done the rest.
Concerning ancient Egypt we know from who we got all the idea of politheism and paganism... Through the eyes of the onlooker. I think ancient egyptians at worst were not more politheistic than catholics and other christians with saints and grials and so on. And at best they were undoubtedly sure of the onness of Divinity, and the narrations of Horus, Isis and all that were symbolical language.
Salaam