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I am God

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved What is the nature of God?
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    muslims
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    So, you admit it.

    I suppose I don't know clearly about that, we still not yet in the hereafter.

    So, I entrust that decision to Allah.

    Whether you believe that you belong to The Creator?

    Wow. . you have so many GODS, BIG ONE!. . rotfl

    Okay, I don't believe in the Creator. . . I don't believe in Allah . . . what else? I don't believe in angels, satan, evertyhing. . .I have NO GOD!

    Satisfy ? Do you feel better and superior to others ? laugh

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      JavaLatte
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      Okay, I don't believe in the Creator. . . I don't believe in Allah . . . what else?

      Do you believe in the contents/messages of the Qur'an?

      I don't believe in angels, satan, evertyhing. . .I have NO GOD!

      So, according to you, who created you?

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        muslims
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        No. . I am Satan. I created myself. . you feel better and superior ? rotfl

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          JavaLatte
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          No. . I am Satan. I created myself. . you feel better and superior ? rotfl

          Do you believe in the contents/messages of the Qur'an?

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            muslims
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            I don't have all days, but your GODS are too big. .

            and thank you . . . you have given an example of those who committed Shrik just to prove they are better and superior to others, it is ego gratification and that are based on injustice. . peace

            This is the meaning of "I am God". . . it is ourselves.

            . . .

            And set forth to them a parable of two men
            for one of them We made two gardens of grape vines
            and We surrounded them both with palms
            and in the midst of them We made cornfields

            Both these gardens yielded their fruits
            and failed not aught thereof
            and We caused a river to gush forth in their midst

            And he possessed much wealth

            so he said to his companion, while he disputed with him

            I have greater wealth than you, and am mightier in followers <- Shirk? This is what most people
            would say. Greater wealth,
            And he entered his garden knowledge, skills, family etc.
            while he was unjust to himself, He said
            I do not think that this will ever perish <- same as here, other people will be in Hell but not me
            And I do not think the hour will come
            and even if I am returned to my Lord
            I will most certainly find a returning place better than this

            His companion said to him while disputing with him

            Do you disbelieve in Him <- Shirk? ie. "...I have greater..."
            Who created you from dust
            then from a small seed
            then He made you a perfect man?

            But as for me
            He, Allah, is my Lord
            and I do not associate anyone with my Lord <- Who is "anyone" in this story context? Self?

            And wherefore did you not say when you entered your garden
            It is as Allah has pleased, there is no power save in Allah?
            If you consider me to be inferior to you in wealth and children
            Then maybe my Lord will give me what is better than your garden

            and send on it a thunderbolt from heaven
            so that it shall become even ground without plant
            Or its waters should sink down into the ground
            so that you are unable to find it
            And his wealth was destroyed
            so he began to wring his hands
            for what he had spent on it
            while it lay, having fallen down upon its roofs, and he said

            Ah me! would that I had not associated anyone with my Lord
            And he had no host to help him besides Allah
            nor could he defend himself

            Here is protection only Allah's
            the True One
            He is best in (the giving of) reward
            and best in requiting

            And set forth to them parable of the life of this world
            like water which We send down from the cloud
            so the herbage of the earth
            becomes tangled on account of it
            then it becomes dry broken into pieces which the winds scatter
            and Allah is the holder of power over all things

            Wealth and children are an adornment of the life of this world
            and the ever-abiding
            the good works
            are better with your Lord in reward
            and better in expectation

            (1832-4

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              JavaLatte
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              @ muslims

              Whether you believe in the contents/messages of the Qur'an?

              YES or NO?

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                muslims
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                #77

                Still not finish worshipping your GODS ? rotfl

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                  JavaLatte
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #78

                  Still not finish worshipping your GODS ? rotfl

                  You often use verses of the Qur'an in this forum.

                  So, it is better to make your real/actual position becomes clear,

                  because I wonder whether do you actually accept the Qur'an or not.

                  @ muslims

                  Whether you believe in the contents/messages of the Qur'an?

                  YES or NO?

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                    muslims
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                    #79

                    What makes you think that I don't believe in the message of the Quran ?

                    Because of your ego?

                    and what makes you think your interpretation is correct ?

                    Can you give reason ?

                    Or you just play blank denial and using ad hominem all the way from the start ?

                    You claim that you are a Muslim but I cannot see that you are fair in dealing the issue. .

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                      @ muslims

                      Whether you believe in the contents/messages of the Qur'an?

                      YES or NO?

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                        muslims
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                        Of course I believe the Quran, and please answer the issue. . you are not acting like a Muslim.

                        You are unjust to people and lying, you say bad things and judge people unfairly, you don't answer the issue but attack on characters and irrelevant issues . . . you cannot give reasons and justified your conclusions, you ignore every issues with blank denial, and you are pretending as much like what the hypocrites are doing.

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                          Of course I believe the Quran, and please answer the issue. .

                          If you believe the Qur'an, then...

                          Why you do not believe that you'll undergo Allah's court after you die?

                          Why you do not believe that you belong to your Creator?

                          you are not acting like a Muslim.

                          I am not acting like member "muslims".

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                            muslims
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                            If you believe in the Qur'an, then...

                            Why you do not believe that you'll undergo Allah's court after you die?

                            Why you do not believe that you belong to your Creator?

                            I am not acting like member "muslims".

                            Answer the issue, you are not the only Muslim in this world. . .
                            You are not the only person who believe in Allah in this world
                            You are not the only person who will enter Paradise
                            You are not the only person who read the Quran . . .

                            You are not. . . there are billions of Muslims in this world, and don't think you are the only Muslim in this world.
                            and Allah is not your slaves. . .so that you can speak lies and declare anyone you like to be in Hell
                            and Allah does not appoint you as His secretary and decide who will be in Hell

                            and don't play dump with your blank denial. . .
                            or bring your stupid questions. like you are an angel or something.
                            You are not an angel, and you carry shit in your stomach and bring it everywhere you go . . just like anyone else
                            What makes you think you are so special ?

                            You are not. . . you are just like anyone else

                            and in fact, what you did is like what Pharoah did. . .
                            No difference at all. . it is exactly the same!
                            You are following his Sunnah. . .like your Prophet, God or something.
                            What kind of Muslim who follow the Pharoah's Sunnah ?

                            REFER HERE
                            The Pharaoh Personality A parable for all times
                            Some Logical Fallacies Dealt With In The Qur'n

                            Argumentum Ad Hominem

                            The fallacy consists in an attempt to refute someone by making disparaging remarks about him rather than by responding to his argument. In other words, not the argument but the man (L. homo, "man&quot behind the argument is attacked. The nobles of the people of Noah rejected him and criticized his followers on the following grounds

                            "We see that you are just a human being like us. We see that only those people have followed you who are quite obviously the lowliest among us. And we see the you are in no way superior to us. In fact, we suspect that you are liars." (1127)

                            In other words Noah'a message must be rejected because his followers happen to be such - and - such people (see also 2611). 2136 says that the Quraysh start making fun of Muhammad the moment they catch sight of him, and pay no attention to his message. For other examples of this fallacy, see 2347 (Pharaoh and courtiers/Moses and Aaron), 2627 (Pharaoh/Moses), 26153-154 (Thamud/Prophet Salih), 26185 (Madyanites/Shu`aib), 4352 (Pharaoh/Moses).

                            So. . .what is the answer ?

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                              JavaLatte
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                              @ muslims

                              I'm glad that you are not God.

                              So, I don't have to care about your "accusations" upon me.

                              And, for your information I don't want to obey people who dare to say that he/she is God.

                              Moreover,

                              (it doesn't really matter if you're joking or not) you dare to write this

                              No. . I am Satan. I created myself. .

                              Satan is my enemy.

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                                muslims
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                                @ muslims

                                I'm glad that you are not God. )

                                So, I don't have to care about your "accusations" upon me.

                                And, for your information I don't want to obey people who dare to say that he/she is God.

                                See? you don't even read, and don't even understand . . .

                                All what you care is you ego, your GODS OF GODS. . . . that you worship days and nights.

                                Please clarify, what is the issue of this thread. . do you understand what I'm saying in this thread ?

                                If you do. . . what is your counterargument ?

                                Do you know how to present a counterargument ?

                                Do you know what is a counterargument ?

                                Don't pretending that you know, when you know nothing. . .

                                You are acting like Pharoah. . . and stop lying and pretending. . . stop being a hypocrite. . you look so cheap and brainless!

                                Present me your conclusion, premises and assumptions. . .with verses to support your argument.

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                                  @ muslims

                                  Are you a curious "god"??

                                  IF you're "God", why don't you read my mind?

                                  The true God is not confused. )

                                  You said that you "created yourself", didn't you?

                                  So, why don't you answer those questions yourself?

                                  I created myself. .

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                                    muslims
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                                    @ muslims

                                    So, you are a curious "God"??

                                    IF you're "God", why don't you read my mind?

                                    The true God is not confused. )

                                    You said that you "created yourself", didn't you?

                                    So, why don't you answer those questions yourself?

                                    See. . you are so brainless and don't even understand the issue of this thread. . you are just a hypocrite. rotfl

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                                      muslims
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                                      (it doesn't really matter if you're joking or not) you dare to write this

                                      Satan is my enemy.

                                      So what ? You think you are not Satan ?

                                      What is the difference between you and Satan ? Do you think Satan that killed people or human beings ?

                                      Who cause corruption on this earth ? Who are the lowest in hell ? Satan or human beings ?

                                      Can you prove you are better than Satan ? What have you accomplished ?

                                      Or do you think you are special and human being ?

                                      Or perhaps you are livestock ?

                                      Do you want me to prove what I said ?

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                                        JavaLatte
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                                        you are just a hypocrite. rotfl

                                        Should I care?? ;D

                                        It is you who said that, and you're not my Lord.

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                                          muslims
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                                          Should I care?? ;D

                                          It is you who said that, and you're not my Lord.

                                          Of course you don't care. . . because you have many masks, all hypocrites do. . .
                                          and they don't have dignity, they cannot take any responsibility for what they said. . . that's why they are hypocrites, their traits. rotfl

                                          And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day,"
                                          but they are not believers.
                                          They deceive Allah and those who believe
                                          but they deceive not except themselves and perceive not. <- they think they are angel, same in here
                                          2.8-9

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