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This is more reasonable about 33:40

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    JavaLatte
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    The Cells in human body do not listen to God.

    Why they don't listen to God?

    From where you know about that?

    Would you kindly explain?

    You can listen Allah the Exalted only when you listen to His Messenger.

    Bold How? You mean by listen to man-made hadiths such as the sahih collection of al-Bukhari?

    Salm.

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      Jane
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      Therein, you listen to two Speakers; Allah the Exalted and His elevated Messenger.

      Sorry, his 'elevated messenger'? And which one is this? There is no distinction between them.

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        Mazhar
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        Why they don't listen to God?

        From where you know about that?

        Would you kindly explain?

        Bold How? You mean by listen to man-made hadiths such as the sahih collection of al-Bukhari?

        Salm.

        Just read about DNA, the code is transcribed upon the Messenger RNA whereafter it is translated.

        No, not man-made hadith; but the best hadith the Grand Qur'aan, verbally and in wrriting conveyed by the elevated Messenger of Allah the Exalted. The source of guidance is but unitary, be it for a singular cell or for human being who has about hundred trillion cells in his body. There is only one star in the Sky that comes to the rescue of a man in bewilderment of clueless location to show him the direction . The guidance information code for aright course for sustaining life of a cell is encoded in the DNA. The guidance for humanity is encoded in the Grand Qur'aan the constitution for aright conduct and guarantor of sustained life.

        If you can find time please read this segment on the link below Superb system of transcription and translation
        The process for the near-accurate translation of Grand Qur'aan like DNA translation process.

        The process for the near-accurate translation of Grand Qur'aan like DNA translation process

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          Mazhar
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          Peace,

          So you have a mediator (god) between you and God?

          Well I do not adhere to that kind of faith and I do not make any distinction between servants of God either and it is much singular in your sentences.

          Yes, this is what Allah the Exalted has decided, not me. He the Exalted decided to have "mediator", He has not opted to talk to me directly. I am not like those irrational people who say why Allah the Exalted does not talk to us instead of the Messenger of Him.

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            Man_of_Faith
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            Peace,

            Okay Mazhar. You can have your perceived command of god and I have mine. I do not serve Muhammad but God.

            Why has God not opted to talk to you? Who taught you this?

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              Mazhar
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              Peace,

              Okay Mazhar. You can have your perceived command of god and I have mine. I do not serve Muhammad but God.

              Why has God not opted to talk to you? Who taught you this?

              Take note those elite and men of position of Muesh'ri'keen idol worshippers who do not know about revealed Book satirically said to people
              Why is it that Allah does not talk to us
              Or why a verbal passage not comes to us?"
              This resembles what the people before them had stated words of import comparable to their statement.
              Their hearts have become self-baffled-metaphorically synonymous to the hearts of earlier such people.
              We have certainly explicitly explained the Aa'ya'at Unitary Verbal Passages of Qur'aan for the people who pursue to attain self conviction-certainty. .

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                Man_of_Faith
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                And what exactly does this have to do with having faith in the guidance from God or not?

                These people obviously did not have faith in God and were not seeking out either. And mushriks do a bit like you and think they have to go through a mediator to become closer to God. Yours is a slightly more advanced form of idolatry if you excuse me for saying it.

                Anyway, it seems like your mind is made up regarding the matter so no use for us to discuss that any further.

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                  Just read about DNA, the code is transcribed upon the Messenger RNA whereafter it is translated.

                  confused

                  No, not man-made hadith; but the best hadith the Grand Qur'aan, verbally and in wrriting conveyed by the elevated Messenger of Allah the Exalted.

                  Well, I'm glad you don't follow man-made hadiths.

                  But, I wonder why you seem a bit "hard core" on something?

                  The source of guidance is but unitary, be it for a singular cell or for human being who has about hundred trillion cells in his body. There is only one star in the Sky that comes to the rescue of a man in bewilderment of clueless location to show him the direction . The guidance information code for aright course for sustaining life of a cell is encoded in the DNA. The guidance for humanity is encoded in the Grand Qur'aan the constitution for aright conduct and guarantor of sustained life.

                  One star? Is it the Qur'an what you mean?

                  If you can find time please read this segment on the link below Superb system of transcription and translation
                  The process for the near-accurate translation of Grand Qur'aan like DNA translation process.

                  The process for the near-accurate translation of Grand Qur'aan like DNA translation process

                  InshaAllah. Thank you for the link, brother.

                  I've opened it. Is that your personal website?

                  Salm.

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                    JavaLatte
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                    Yes, this is what Allah the Exalted has decided, not me. He the Exalted decided to have "mediator", He has not opted to talk to me directly. I am not like those irrational people who say why Allah the Exalted does not talk to us instead of the Messenger of Him.

                    Brother, Allah does not talk directly to us now, but we can talk/call/invoke to Him directly without mediator.

                    We indeed have to respect the messenger of Allah, but within reasonable boundaries. Our true Rescuer is Allah.

                    Salm.

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                      Mazhar
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                      And what exactly does this have to do with having faith in the guidance from God or not?

                      These people obviously did not have faith in God and were not seeking out either. And mushriks do a bit like you and think they have to go through a mediator to become closer to God. Yours is a slightly more advanced form of idolatry if you excuse me for saying it.

                      Anyway, it seems like your mind is made up regarding the matter so no use for us to discuss that any further.

                      You are forgetting a basic fact. Those Mushrekeen did believe in Allah as the creator of everything and administrator of everything. Their problem was only with the Messenger and his proclamation to believe only in Allah without ascribing associates.

                      What you believe is nothing new.
                      And nothing prevented people that they might believe/accept when the Guidance/Book of Allah had came to them except that they said to people, "Has Allah appointed a human being as Messenger?"

                      Never forget Satan believes in Allah the Exalted and also fears Him. What will differentiate you from Satan?

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                        Mazhar
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                        Brother, Allah does not talk directly to us now, but we can talk/call/invoke to Him directly without mediator.

                        We indeed have to respect the messenger of Allah, but within reasonable boundaries. Our true Rescuer is Allah.

                        Salm.

                        Salamun alaiki,

                        Yes, that is true. Please reflect a while how this fact is disclosed

                        And when My servants ask you the Messenger concerning Me, for reason of omnipresence I am indeed nearby;
                        I listen-respond-attend to the prayer-call of the suppliant when he calls on Me.

                        Therefore they should transform themselves to remain persistently responsive for Me; to My call Grand Qur'aan .
                        And they should heartily have faith-trust in Me.

                        This type of responsiveness might make them walk in the right way; become safe from being deceived with conjectural stories-myths and get life .

                        The reasonable boundaries ---you can define these after perusing it

                        You the Messenger pronounce "If your fathers, and your sons, and your brothers, and your spouses and your clans;
                        And the wealth that you have acquired, and the business you people fear recession in it; and the residences you are delighted with
                        These are more attractive and dearer to you people than Allah the Exalted and the Messenger of Him the Exalted; and than endeavoring-exerting utmost for the cause-High road of Him the Exalted
                        Thereby, wait remain absorbed in their love until such time Allah the Exalted proclaims His decision-command.
                        Remain cognizant, Allah the Exalted guides not the people who are aberrant-promise breakers and transgress prescribed bounds.

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                          Mazhar
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                          One star? Is it the Qur'an what you mean?

                          Moreover, He the Exalted has arranged for you people the Stars
                          So that you people might guide yourselves in finding direction by them in the layers of darkness-clueless locations-unmarked spaces-bewilderment of the Desert-Land and the Ocean.
                          Our Majesty has made the Aa'ya'at verbal passages conveying information, facts and knowledge about things-concepts as vividly distinct-demarcated-isolated-alienated-crystal clear for the people in pursuit of knowing-understanding.

                          In this Ayah plural is used STARS.

                          And the distinct marks ;
                          And they people get the direction-destination-guidance with the help of the Star.

                          Grand Qur'aan was meant, not only for those Arabs who were to listen it first, but is for the entire humanity in time and space. Therefore, its language is such that it contains and narrates a fact in such manner that it should seem and could have been perceived as an absolute truth by its first listeners, and prove to be an absolute fact for the posterity for whom the knowledge of the universe will keep unfolding. The above statement of the Grand Qur'aan is a fact from whatever angle it may be seen. In common knowledge, people perceive that North/Pole Star is the one but that is not the fact. Today North Star is Polaris but in 7500 there will be some other Star as Pole Star and in 15000 another one will take this place and after 9000 years today's North Pole Polaris will again be stationed there.

                          Similarly, in every day life the source of guidance is always one. No man-made hadith/guidance is guidance. Allah the Exalted guides only through the Messenger sent alongwith the Book.

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                            You are forgetting a basic fact. Those Mushrekeen did believe in Allah as the creator of everything and administrator of everything. Their problem was only with the Messenger and his proclamation to believe only in Allah without ascribing associates.

                            What you believe is nothing new.
                            And nothing prevented people that they might believe/accept when the Guidance/Book of Allah had came to them except that they said to people, "Has Allah appointed a human being as Messenger?"

                            Never forget Satan believes in Allah the Exalted and also fears Him. What will differentiate you from Satan?

                            Salaam,

                            1850

                            salaam,
                            Bender

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                              Mazhar
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                              InshaAllah. Thank you for the link, brother.

                              I've opened it. Is that your personal website?

                              Yes, it is our ongoing free source project. Its main page

                              This is a free source for the learners-beginners, scholars and researchers. We are trying to provide them the necessary tools-kit at one page-window that are required for reading a book and comprehending its semantic information and message. Reading is necessarily for comprehending the semantic information and knowledge infolded in the text. Comprehension is but real-time translation of the text while reading. Real-time translation by the reader renders him as if he is directly listening the voice of the author of the Book and of the elevated Messenger who relayed it verbally and in writing.

                              Learning to translate and comprehend the text of Grand Qur'aan is merely a skill. Everybody can and should acquire it. What we need is only the desire to develop personal contact with the Author of Qur'aan, Allah the Exalted and the elevated universal Messenger Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam; and the tools-kit which is required to translate and comprehend the second-language text.

                              Tools-Kit for acquiring the skill for real-time translation

                              The text of languages is typically divided into three categories

                              1. Word;

                              2. Phrase;

                              3. Sentence

                              The Kit for learners-beginners Grand Qur'aan is easy to learn-Grammar; Morphology and Syntax.

                              The Kit for scholars Grand Qur'aan in 21st century-easy to comprehend and translate

                              Reference for assistance Translation of Ayah after grammatical parsing of sentences. Each word of Ayah is grammatically defined and is linked with its Root page where all words of that Root occurring in Qur'aan are alphabetically arranged. Classical lexicons and Lane Lexicon for cross check are also linked on the Root page.

                              Grammatical parsing of the text-sentences of each Ayah is also linked in the side pane.

                              Please remember that no translation of the Qur'aan will ever be exhaustive and final. The day you acquire the skill, I am sure you will render a far better and precise translation than my and my wife's effort.

                              Grand Qur'aan The Infinitely Reliable Book Guarantor and Sustainer of the truly living Life. Listen it; self-learn and quite conveniently understand it since Allah the Exalted has rendered it facilitative for reading and comprehending; and is self explanatory. Thereupon, act accordingly what it commands; and refrain from that which it prohibits.

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                                Mazhar
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                                Salaam,

                                1850

                                salaam,
                                Bender

                                Read what is relevant to the point at issue Pl listen Shaitaan/Satan
                                Be informed; When Shai'taan had made their deeds, preparations alluring for them;
                                And inspired/said for them "None at all a dominant is there amongst the people who could be overpowering for you people in battle today. And I am by your side."
                                Subsequent to advancing, when the two hostile forces came in sight to each other he, Shait'aan, turned away on his heels
                                Announcing, "I am absolved from you people . Indeed I am seeing what you people are not seeing. Certainly I fear Allah."
                                The fact remains that Allah the Exalted is stern in dispensing justice-awarding due punishment to criminals.

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                                  Man_of_Faith
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                                  Peace Mazhar,

                                  It may have been a similar scenario with you here and now. They said "a human messenger" because they were in the delusion that Jesus was not an ordinary man. Your problem is about making distinction between messengers and having a mediator between you and God instead of simply heeding the quite easy message that Muhammad came with that was for you to get your eyes up on God and to bring news to those who have faith and warn the ones who do wrong has been the purpose of these messengers throughout history.

                                  And these people had mediators just like you and they think that they are in a better position than themselves so they go through them to get closer to God. You do not think I have knowledge already what is in the decree?

                                  And if you do not think that God is actively guiding you and subtly inspiring you then I must say you lack faith and God is not with you. Perhaps your obsession with Muhammad causes that. Idolatry causes God to become furious you know.

                                  Muhammad did not come with anything really new so I could as well have, for example, Jesus as my messenger, but I favorize none but God. I heeded their message and thus I serve The Master alone without having a mediator.

                                  I would be fine if I lived according to the instruction (torah) really so you are mistaken about this mediator taking.

                                  Satan does not have any respect for God and I am not sure why you involve him in this discussion. Of course Satan knows God exist and believe because he was there. He fears God because he knows God's might. But he does not respect God at all or he would not do what he does the revengeful bastard.

                                  And nothing has prevented me from having faith when God sent down guidance. I had faith before I even begun studying the book called Quran and I needed no mediator and Jesus was a sign just as Muhammad and I appreciate that God sent down that information to them. And God ALONE I praise for that.

                                  So you heed the message but you ascribe a partner by taking the previous messenger as your idol?

                                  Praise God for guiding you if you are truly guided.

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    Peace Mazhar,

                                    It may have been a similar scenario with you here and now. They said "a human messenger" because they were in the delusion that Jesus was not an ordinary man. Your problem is about making distinction between messengers and having a mediator between you and God instead of simply heeding the quite easy message that Muhammad came with that was for you to get your eyes up on God and to bring news to those who have faith and warn the ones who do wrong has been the purpose of these messengers throughout history.

                                    And these people had mediators just like you and they think that they are in a better position than themselves so they go through them to get closer to God. You do not think I have knowledge already what is in the decree?

                                    And if you do not think that God is actively guiding you and subtly inspiring you then I must say you lack faith and God is not with you. Perhaps your obsession with Muhammad causes that. Idolatry causes God to become furious you know.

                                    Muhammad did not come with anything really new so I could as well have, for example, Jesus as my messenger, but I favorize none but God. I heeded their message and thus I serve The Master alone without having a mediator.

                                    I would be fine if I lived according to the instruction (torah) really so you are mistaken about this mediator taking.

                                    Satan does not have any respect for God and I am not sure why you involve him in this discussion. Of course Satan knows God exist and believe because he was there. He fears God because he knows God's might. But he does not respect God at all or he would not do what he does the revengeful bastard.

                                    And nothing has prevented me from having faith when God sent down guidance. I had faith before I even begun studying the book called Quran and I needed no mediator and Jesus was a sign just as Muhammad and I appreciate that God sent down that information to them. And God ALONE I praise for that.

                                    So you heed the message but you ascribe a partner by taking the previous messenger as your idol?

                                    Praise God for guiding you if you are truly guided.

                                    A claimant of belief follows in practice either the Messenger of Allah the Exalted, Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam Or the Satan. The ill will you nurture in your chest against the elevated Messenger makes you deaf and blind to the words of Allah the Exalted.

                                    Do you love and regard the God?

                                    You the Messenger pronounce "If you people have been loving Allah the Exalted;
                                    Then to demonstrate and prove it, you are instructed to heartily and diligently follow me in letter and spirit without in between there a third party intervention and influence.
                                    If you acted accordingly, Allah the Exalted will in response-reciprocally love-appreciate and acknowledge you people.
                                    Moreover, He the Exalted will overlook and grant forgiveness for you people for your earlier wrong-doings.
                                    Remember, Allah the Exalted is the Forgiving-Overlooking and the Merciful".

                                    How can you follow him when even taking of his name irks you. Do you still claim you love God!!

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                                      How can you follow him when even taking of his name irks you. Do you still claim you love God!!

                                      Agreed! Many people here seems like they are bothered with the name 'Muhammad'. Brother Man of Faith happens to be just one of them. I am sorry, but that is what his posts make me feel like. They argue that Muhammad (pbuh) was simply just a 'man'. Sure, he was a man. But he was not as ordinary as they portray him to be. He was a prophet of God. His status is much higher and elevated than any of us. What is there of being more honorable than being a prophet of God? NOTHING!

                                      I LOVE THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND ALL THE OTHER PROPHETS AND MESSENGERS OF ALLAH. MAY PEACE BE UPON ALL OF THEM.

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                                        Man_of_Faith
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                                        Peace,

                                        I have no problem with Muhammad nor is the name bothering me either. However, I still consider him to be an ordinary man except that he had a special honor of being a messenger of God likely due to exceptional devotion. He earned this status through hard work and he likely worked his life to purify himself to reach that condition and there are also hints that he had problems that God helped him with because Muhammad was devoted to God alone and sought The Master's counsel like any servant of God should be doing.

                                        The problem is that some, then you are in that group, exalt the messengers exceedingly much for no reason. It outwardly looks like idolization. God knows what is in your hearts but I am just saying what I feel about what I see. If one says a messenger is a mediator and you regard him highly because he is in a better position than you are then you actually fulfill the associator (mushrik) criteria.

                                        You can respect him because that is no more than fair of me and you and God even told the angels to respect Adam. But he is far from a partner of God that is supposed to be exalted and praised.

                                        God bless you

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                                          Sabeel_Ameer
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                                          Peace,

                                          I dont think its hardwork thats earning a position of messenger. Jesus was a messenger, and Mary was given the good news about Jesus before he was born. Jesus had to do no work for that.

                                          Prophet Muhammad was just like any other messengers like Jesus, Moses etc.

                                          The position of messengership is a great honour. And Allah has honored them. That's not a small thing.

                                          Peace be upon all of them.

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