The word Allah has been absolutely discarded. . .
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Fine by us, keep doubting then.
I'm using critical thinking through valid logical premises from the Quran, and verified my conclusion with verses of the Quran without resorting to conjecture . . .why should I have doubts ? It is you who cannot answer the inconsistency, and therefore. . . have doubts. laugh
The arabic is very clear here.
You believe "Arabic" is equal to "thinking" ? Where did you get this idea ?
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And the topic of this thread is the claim that the word Allah has been discarded based on your saying that the word Allah does not occur in the 'monotheist translation' and I gave you the right answer in the very first post in here.
And I have repeatd the right answer to the issue many times but you just add a lot of irrelevant points.
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And it is true; we take ourselves the liberty to use God as our reference to the same word in Arabic and there is not really anything you can do about it except expressing your own opinion.
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Doesn't sound much like an argument. . . not at all.
I refined my answer and that quote is not from this thread. You play with words so I composed an argument based on the fallacy you claim and say the god instead so try to find a contradiction in that.
No god except the god. I.e. no one with the rank called god in existence other than the god.
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No god except the god. I.e. no one with the rank called god in existence other than the god.
Does it make any difference ? It still sounds absurd. . . "three Gods but One God, but three Gods". .. laugh
"God with capital "G" only refer to Allah because I say so!?!?! No one can use the word "God" with capital "G"!"
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606683.msg353631#msg353631
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Of course, but I can show through valid logical premises that you are following conjecture and relying on personal fallacy. . . your dogmatic belief.
You have not been able to present even one valid argument that would support your claims. So you can in return not prove that I follow conjecture.
No. I have no dogmatic belief because you are free to believe it even if you are wrong.
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Already done that . . . .
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606632.msg352442#msg352442
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606632.msg352642#msg352642
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606683.msg353713#msg353713http//download.ahmedhulusi.org/download/pdf/en/allah_en.pdf
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Absolutely not, we have no doubts, because the Quran is very clear. Although you seem highly confused. It is well understood that in order to process information from a language you need both sensory perception and critical thinking ability. Otherwise we end up confused, contradicting our own selves such as you are needlessly proving right now.
Then mock in your logic ego and wait, with you, we are waiting.
We are not going to disbelieve in the Lord of the universes, like you do, because we fear that Lord. And you should stop putting forth your case because we have agreed to disagree long ago. You keep up and hold fast to your ideas in peace, and we will hold fast to our Lord's revelations and we peacefully request you to stop this twisted distortion of the said revelations.
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As what you said, not as per what the Quran said. . .
Do they not reflect on the Qur'an? <-- is referring to the interpretation
If it was from any other than God <-- wrong interpretation
they would have found in it many a discrepancy. <-- one or more false premises , it is not the correct interpretation
482. . .
Then mock in your logic ego and wait, with you, we are waiting.
Here comes the "Sectarian God", a God who thinks like a man and ready to put your opponent in the hell fire. . Is it Allah or Self God? laugh
sigh. . . "Parental Deity"!
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Does it make any difference ? It still sounds absurd. . . "three Gods but One God, but three Gods". .. laugh
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606683.msg353631#msg353631
Where do you get three gods from? I refer to one god, I.e.'the god'. You see ONE, not two not three but ONE.
How can you even get your argument except by some really delusional logic?
I am telling you that the word god is a rank for a position of power and there is no such god OTHER THAN the god. What is so hard to understand?
How does that say there are three gods or two gods? What is wrong with you?
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Your repeated passage about "if there would be any inconsistency it would be from other than the god" will not help support your confusion. It says what it says.
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Where do you get three gods from? I refer to one god, I.e.'the god'. You see ONE, not two not three but ONE.
The argument is the same argument like what the Christians are saying, and I don't understand that kind of argument. . . or logic.
three Gods but One God, but three Gods
there is no God but God
Sorry, Christian logic is not in my syllabus. laugh
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606622.msg352204#msg352204
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I repeat my question Where do you get three gods in one from. Are you that delusional?
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I am saying that there is only one god called the god. How can you make that into a claim of three?
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an Arabic Qur'an
without any deviance
that they might become righteous
(392How can you say playing with words when the Quran telling people is diverting from the Quran because their scholars manipulating words in the Quran ? When they changed the true meaning of words in the Quran? More important, you are also repeatedly claiming the Sunni and Shia etc changed the meaning of the Quran, but when it comes to you or people you like, it is okay. . . you are so quickly to judge other people are playing with words Hypocrisy ?
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(The logical structure of the "negative form" (no, ا , and "affirmative form" (only, ) in the shahada. . .)"no god except THE GOD" ?
That makes sense to you?
it doesn't make sense to me, sorry, sounds the same argument like the Trinity . . .
"they are not three Gods but one God, but it is three Gods"Why don't you try logic and logical structure of a statement. laugh
and I'm right. .
"no god except THE GOD"
the truth in this ideology there is absolutely no "Allah" . . only "God".
http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Square_compasses.svg/220px-Square_compasses.svg.png
Salaam,
You have already dedicated many topics and many post about you being God (or god), about God (or god) = 1, about 1+1+1+1+1+1 = 1 = God (or god), about there is no God (or god), about we are all God (or god), about God (or god) not equal to 1, about everything = 1, about nothing =1, about nothing = everything, about everything = 1 , about 1 = 0, about 2 = 7, about 7 - 84 = everything, about everything + everything = nothing, etc etc etc
You have made a major discovery and you get all the credits for this bravoAt the moment probably only you and maybe 1 or 2 others on this planet who can grasp this revolutionary idea. We mortals need time, a lot of time, to get to your level. Great minds are never understood immediately it takes time for mortals to grasp new revolutionary knowledge.
We mortals are like almalaikaats in the next verse
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Premise 1 No 3ilm ("-" negative form)
Premise 2 Only 3ilm ("+" affirmative form)ISSUE 3ilm is "knowledge" or "Not knowledge" ?
Therefore we are all knowledge (small k) ==>
Knowledge (capital K) = 0 ==>
0 is everything ==>
Knowledge (capital K) is not Knowledge (capital K) ==>
1+1++1+1+1=knowledge (small k) ==>
3=1=5=0=knowledge ==final conclusion==>
LAA member is muslims ILLAA member muslims.THUS
Premise 1 No member is muslims ("-" negative form)
Premise 2 Only member muslims ("+" affirmative form)ISSUE muslims is "muslims" or "Not muslims" ?
THUS we are all member muslims, but no one is member muslims because 1+1+1+1= member muslims and member muslims is not 1 and 1 is not 0 thus no one is member muslims and member muslims is everyone and everyone is 0
Salaam,
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Fallacy is really your expertise. . . so what is the point ? Obviously it got nothing to do with what I'm saying , neither it answer the issue in this thread. . .
Oh i see, you feel threatens because people questioning your Parental Deity .
Okay. . . mmm, do you need to chop off people's head ? rebellious ? Call people kafir and summons your imaginary God or your Parental Deity to put me in hell ? rotfl