The word Allah has been absolutely discarded. . .
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an Arabic Qur'an
without any deviance
that they might become righteous
(392How can you say playing with words when the Quran telling people is diverting from the Quran because their scholars manipulating words in the Quran ? When they changed the true meaning of words in the Quran? More important, you are also repeatedly claiming the Sunni and Shia etc changed the meaning of the Quran, but when it comes to you or people you like, it is okay. . . you are so quickly to judge other people are playing with words Hypocrisy ?
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(The logical structure of the "negative form" (no, ا , and "affirmative form" (only, ) in the shahada. . .)"no god except THE GOD" ?
That makes sense to you?
it doesn't make sense to me, sorry, sounds the same argument like the Trinity . . .
"they are not three Gods but one God, but it is three Gods"Why don't you try logic and logical structure of a statement. laugh
and I'm right. .
"no god except THE GOD"
the truth in this ideology there is absolutely no "Allah" . . only "God".
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Salaam,
You have already dedicated many topics and many post about you being God (or god), about God (or god) = 1, about 1+1+1+1+1+1 = 1 = God (or god), about there is no God (or god), about we are all God (or god), about God (or god) not equal to 1, about everything = 1, about nothing =1, about nothing = everything, about everything = 1 , about 1 = 0, about 2 = 7, about 7 - 84 = everything, about everything + everything = nothing, etc etc etc
You have made a major discovery and you get all the credits for this bravoAt the moment probably only you and maybe 1 or 2 others on this planet who can grasp this revolutionary idea. We mortals need time, a lot of time, to get to your level. Great minds are never understood immediately it takes time for mortals to grasp new revolutionary knowledge.
We mortals are like almalaikaats in the next verse
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Premise 1 No 3ilm ("-" negative form)
Premise 2 Only 3ilm ("+" affirmative form)ISSUE 3ilm is "knowledge" or "Not knowledge" ?
Therefore we are all knowledge (small k) ==>
Knowledge (capital K) = 0 ==>
0 is everything ==>
Knowledge (capital K) is not Knowledge (capital K) ==>
1+1++1+1+1=knowledge (small k) ==>
3=1=5=0=knowledge ==final conclusion==>
LAA member is muslims ILLAA member muslims.THUS
Premise 1 No member is muslims ("-" negative form)
Premise 2 Only member muslims ("+" affirmative form)ISSUE muslims is "muslims" or "Not muslims" ?
THUS we are all member muslims, but no one is member muslims because 1+1+1+1= member muslims and member muslims is not 1 and 1 is not 0 thus no one is member muslims and member muslims is everyone and everyone is 0
Salaam,
Bender -
Fallacy is really your expertise. . . so what is the point ? Obviously it got nothing to do with what I'm saying , neither it answer the issue in this thread. . .
Oh i see, you feel threatens because people questioning your Parental Deity .
Okay. . . mmm, do you need to chop off people's head ? rebellious ? Call people kafir and summons your imaginary God or your Parental Deity to put me in hell ? rotfl
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Fallacy is really your expertise. . . so what is the point ? Obviously it got nothing to do with what I'm saying , neither it answer the issue in this thread. . .
Oh i see, you feel threatens because people questioning your Parental Deity .
Okay. . . mmm, do you need to chop off people's head ? rebellious ? Call people kafir and summons your imaginary God or your Parental Deity to put me in hell ? rotfl
Salaam,
Who said I was talking about elephants, please refer here .
When you finished with that link you can go here
That is because of this
Therefore 1=0 and 0=1 and it has nothing to do with the Issue (capital I) of thisSalaam,
Bender -
Fallacy is really your expertise. . . so what is the point ? Obviously it got nothing to do with what I'm saying , neither it answer the issue in this thread. . .
Oh i see, you feel threatens because people questioning your Parental Deity .
Okay. . . mmm, do you need to chop off people's head ? rebellious ? Call people kafir and summons your imaginary God or your Parental Deity to put me in hell ? rotfl
Are you typing to me?
You will put yourself in Hell; that I am not responsible for but 'the god'.
Where do you get chop off the head of people. Which god has taught you those atrocities?
Kaffir is the one who opposes the god and actively seeks to do that.
Apart from that can you return to your topic instead of venting your frustration with me?
You have not yet been able to present a reasonable argument that can support your claims but just parrot the same again and again which I respond by repeating the same answer again and again since there is no other answer.
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Apart from that can you return to your topic instead of venting your frustration with me?
You have not yet been able to present a reasonable argument that can support your claims but just parrot the same again and again which I respond by repeating the same answer again and again since there is no other answer.
We used different logic, you are using Christian logic. . I'm using the nonsectarian logic. .
P Q
? Q? P
Allah God
? God? Allah
Therefore,
P Q. . .
Allah GodMore proof that we are not using the same logic ?
Are you typing to me?
See ? It is not the same laugh
and. . .
But such empirical facts are of no concern to the logician.
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<b>not about incorrect to say no one knows Allah. . . but it is correct to say no one knows Allah.</b>
lol, that's not how double negatives work mate, but I admire your confidence.
You said it is correct to say "No one knows Allah" but object to the statement "No one knows God"
Therefor you believe it is incorrect to say "no one knows God". There is no double negative.
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As I said. . .
It is self evident.
Salaam,
that not the Issue (capital I), refer here
the issue (small i) is that 8=3
ANDexplain why you have added (with) and changed my statement then i response to rest, i am not hiding, everything is clear and crystal ) You are hiding behind 4200 beliefs i believe in God Alone with proof for existence of God based on God's Miracle .
You do not need Academic degree and knowledge to understand Miracle all you need is to know +-/* and 1-9 and a heart clear of idolization .Stones have been changed to 4200 books plus sub books which they sit front of it and show their gods in shelves) Miracle need computer and do not need ink and paper.
Witnessing complexity of miracle require understanding how INTERLOCK functions and discussing Miracle without such knowledge is wasting time .)
All these ink and paper idols have same common material INK and Paper like older and present time which STONE is common for all of them. )
peace
you see.
Salaam,
Bender -
<b>not about incorrect to say no one knows Allah. . . but it is correct to say no one knows Allah.</b>
lol, that's not how double negatives work mate, but I admire your confidence.
You said it is correct to say "No one knows Allah" but object to the statement "No one knows God"
Therefor you believe it is incorrect to say "no one knows God". There is no double negative.
maybe I misuderstood. . . .but
A double negative occurs when two forms of negation are used in the same sentence. Multiple negation is the more general term referring to the occurrence of more than one negative in a clause.
In some languages, double negatives cancel one another and produce an affirmative sense; in other languages, doubled negatives intensify the negation Double Negative
but I do understand there are two forms of negation in your sentence.
Why is it incorrect (negation) to say "No (negation) one knows God"?
because "incorrect" means "it is not correct", ie. it is negation.
similarly. . .
In Standard English, two negatives are understood to resolve to a positive. This rule was observed as early as 1762, when Bishop Robert Lowth wrote A Short Introduction to English Grammar with Critical Notes. For instance, "I do not disagree" could mean "I certainly agree". Further statements may be necessary to resolve which particular meaning was intended; Wikipedia
("disagree" means "I do not agree", ie. negation)
"It is not incorrect" means "It is certainly correct".
Therefore. . I believe your sentence means
Why is it incorrect to say "No one knows God"?
Why is it correct to say "one knows God"? -
Why Christian logic of all accusations?
You are not able to present an argument using an interpretable language but just speaking like a machine.
I still say that Allah is the only god. And Allah is a title of a position of power. The only one. My logic says thus that there is only one god in existence. How is that "Christian logic"?
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Fallacy of ditto by member muslims who cannot present a new argument instead giving a reason to repeat the same answer.
You accuse me of "Christian logic" while I have said a statement that you have not been able to counter except calling it Christian logic and saying I talk of duality or trinity or for the god sake you are messing around about.
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This philosphocial gimmicks will not end until firstly you determine the proposition in the four worded sentence which is in fact five worded, the fifth is elided and will not be visible to those who wish to know languages without their grammar.
There is no such contrary to ground reality negation no god; in the sentence.
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<b>but I do understand there are two forms of negation in your sentence.</b>
Yes I see what is causing your confusion, never the less the question
Why is it incorrect to say "No one knows God"? is a valid one.
If I asked why is it not incorrect to say "No one knows God"? then there is a double negative. But even then the sentence still has meaning. If I said it that way it would produce a positive making the meaning why is it correct to say "no one knows God"
Like you said "In some languages, double negatives cancel one another and produce an affirmative sense; in other languages, doubled negatives intensify the negation"
Anyway, if it will make you happy I will ask it in a different manner..
Why is saying "No one Knows Allah" more correct then saying "No one knows God"?... Please don't tell me you think because I said "no" twice in this sentence that there is a double negative.
From the wiki link you gave
Because of this ambiguity, double negatives are frequently employed when making back-handed compliments. <b>The phrase "Mr. Jones was not incompetent." will seldom mean "Mr. Jones was very competent"</b> since the speaker would have found a more flattering way to say so. Instead, some kind of problem is implied, though Mr. Jones possesses basic competence at his tasks.
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Why is saying "No one Knows Allah" more correct then saying "No one knows God"?...
Okay, let's focus on the issue. .
The issue is this thread is not about correct/incorrect for saying Allah is God, since "God" the description of Allah in the Quran (or "God" use with "Allah" actually mean something else - mistranslation). In fact you can call Allah any beautiful names you like. . . However, all description about Allah is not absolute since Chapter 112 is the "interpretation provision" for Allah, especially when the word "God" refers to so many things in the Quran, including "Self". . .
another example for the "interpretation provision" in the Quran. .. .
Note This is also true for the true meaning of a "Believer". .
where Allah provided for the "interpretation provision" for the meaning of Believer in (4915) (82).
The meaning of a "Believer" must be subjected to these "interpretation provision".. . .
Contradictorily. . . this thread is about a "claim to absoluteness" in the Monotheist Translation that only the word God exists in the Quran. . . no Allah.
I just realize that there is not even a single word of "Allah" in the monotheist translation. . . claim to absoluteness.
whereas the true facts is that the word "Allah" is reserved for "unknown".. . and "No God".
Therefore it is not the accurate understanding and diverted from the truth . . .(refer here)
with logical proof. . .
P Q
? Q? P
Allah God
? God? Allah
Therefore,
P Q. . .
Allah God -
The first sentence of Ayatul Kursi (2255) Clearly says that -
Allahu (Allah) La (not) Ilaha (god) Illa (but) hua (he is) hyul (ever living) qaium (existance).Yet why we translate the kalema tayaba as -
La (there is no) Ilaha (god) Illa (except) Allah (Allah)?! - contradicting 2255I think it should be as -
La (no) Ilaha (god) Illa (but) Allah (Allah). - Its not contradicting 2255