Why is it necessary to acquire skill for real-time translation of Grand Qur'aan
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Why is it necessary to acquire skill for real-time translation of Grand Qur'aan when more than hundred translations are readily available?
Salamun alaikum,
Many on this forum are not satisfied with the translations, labelled as tranditionalists or modernists, done earlier. Their dissatisfaction must necessarily be based upon some logical grounds and understanding. Can they give reasons for their attemps to translate or modify translations by their own thinking and wisdom?
Thanks in advance.
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Why is it necessary to acquire skill for real-time translation of Grand Qur'aan when more than hundred translations are readily available?
Many on this forum are not satisfied with the translations, labelled as tranditionalists or modernists, done earlier. Their dissatisfaction must necessarily be based upon some logical grounds and understanding. Can they give reasons for their attemps to translate or modify translations by their own thinking and wisdom?My attempts for verses 781 and 2929 in the FM Quran, stem from the simple fact they make Quran contradict itself and cause inconsistency. Quran does not contradict and is nowhere inconsistent. Only translations can be. I'm not trying to inject own thinking and wisdom. I validate a translation by crosschecking other occurrences, I check the repetition of verses (obviously they should have the same meaning).
Let me return the question, do you think Edip Yuksel and traditional translators have injected their own opinion into the translation of 2929? Show me the original arabic word that means 'sexually' in verse 2929, also show me another occurence in Quran where I-sabil means literally road and does not refer to Allahs path/Gods way. Show me another occurence in Quran where tatulah means sexual attraction.
Peace.
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My attempts for verses 781 and 2929 in the FM Quran, stem from the simple fact they make Quran contradict itself and cause inconsistency. Quran does not contradict and is nowhere inconsistent. Only translations can be. I'm not trying to inject own thinking and wisdom. I validate a translation by crosschecking other occurrences, I check the repetition of verses (obviously they should have the same meaning).
Peace.
This is a good technique for evaluation of accuracy and veracity of a translation. It is Critical thinking Follow an enquiry based process use prior and background information to determine cohesion and coherence.
Is it for reason that they have purposely not made it their habit to cross-examine the Qur'aan critically pursuing coherently its miscellany Unitary Verbal Passages that mirror established realities and facts?Mind it that had this Qur'aan been a dictate by some one other than Allah the Exalted, indeed on cross-examination of its contents, pursuing from initial to last statement, they would have certainly found-detected quite a number of variations-conflicts-differences therein.
This is the litmus test for evaluating and verifying the whole truth. No further element should be at variance and conflict with the whole body of text. Grand Qur'aan is suggesting that its reader should be active and a strategic reader. It sets a purpose for reading and establishes motivation. It moves the reader away from passively accepting the text which limits comprehension.
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Why is it necessary to acquire skill for real-time translation of Grand Qur'aan when more than hundred translations are readily available?
Peace, the translations are inconsistent and illogical ? example
They?re all over the place with Kalala which most translate as person perished without child.
Qur?an states IF NOT to deceased a child which logically makes the case of Kalala with child!
4176 they seek ruling your say the god gives a ruling you in al-kallati/the fatherless spouse-less if im'ru-on/person perished not for him waladun/born and for him sister so for her half what left and he inherits it if not that be for her waladun/born so if knat/be dual (f/d) ith'natayni/two (f/d) falahum/so to them dual (f/d) al-thuluthni/the third each (1/3 + 1/3 = 2/3) from what left and if kn /be they of (2+) ikh'watan/siblings rijlan/menfolk of wanisan/and womenfolk falildhakari/so to the male like share al-unthayayni/the two (feminine) shows the god for you lest stray yeh of and the god in every thing know-er
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Peace, the translations are inconsistent and illogical ? example
Salam.
Thanks, the inconsistent issue is also earlier mentioned in post 3.
Illogical, yes at many places the translated text seems illogical in many translations. This we can mention as second reason why everyone should try learning real-time translation.
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Why is it necessary to acquire skill for real-time translation of Grand Qur'aan when more than hundred translations are readily available?
There are two reasons. Real-time translation is an intense activity of one's own brain. Reading a translation is near-passive activity, or involves less intellectual effort. Reading a translation may add to one's information-archive but may not necessarily enhance his level of understanding. Grand Qur'aan, a non-fiction book, aims at successively increasing the level of intellectual understanding of its reader to ascensions beyond the physical realms. A real-time system is one which "controls an environment by receiving data, processing them, and returning the results sufficiently quickly to affect the environment at that time." Ability of real-time translation will enable to perceive the beauties and niceties of the words and sounds of Arabic text which all translations will lack, however profound and scholarly they might be. If environmentally we have never experienced this result despite having read dozens of translations and exegeses, it is time that we should try acquiring skill for real-time translation to synchronize our selves with the Words of Allah the Exalted
Allah the Exalted has gradually ascended-revealed the infallibly authentic breaking news and information the best verbal discourse.
This discourse is conveyed to people in the state of a written book. It is the explainer with metaphors mirroring-bringing face to face the hidden physical facts It is a Miscellany-cluster of Binary-Symmetrical-analogous verbal passages.
The skins of them; who persistently fear and revere their Sustainer Lord, become bristled in fear by some segment of it Grand Qur'aan. Afterwards, their skins become softened.
Moreover, their hearts become exclusively soft and revered towards the Reminder-Reiteration-Verbal Message of Allah the Exalted Grand Qur'aan.
This Book Grand Qur'aan is the Guidance of Allah the Exalted.
He the Exalted guides through this Book a person about whom He decides to be guided.
Know it Should Allah the Exalted let someone absorbed in indifference; engrossed in his self thereat; there is not at all a guide for him.
Each of 114 sub-divisions of Qur'aan, chapter in English, is called Surat a segment denoting an Enclave of superiority and elevation-Ascending Leap. It is like a ladder having 114 rungs a series of hierarchical levels on which somebody moves up. The 112th Chapter is the peak of hierarchical levels which is captioned http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/112.%20Al%20Ikhlaas/112.gif A Form-IV verbal noun signifying act and state rendering one as clear, pure, sheer, free from admixture, unmingled, unmixed, disentangled or genuine; and white; to reach to level of purity and sincerity. This is the state of synchronization with nature.
But having reached an ascension one can move or fall on the rungs downwards. Therefore, the last two "rungs" Chapter 113 and 114 are for seeking refuge with the Sustainer Lord to escape chances of downfall. The refuge sought is from all sorts of disquiet, disequilibrium and disconcerts; and from people who are the embodiment of Satan. Arabic word for Satan has also the signification of cobra. Interestingly, we have in our sub-continent a board game, now called Snake and Ladder. Ladder takes to ascensions and bite of snake takes the player downwards or backwards. In life, after having experienced the exhilaration of a ladder, it is quite possible that one could bump into a snake. Hence, the necessity of seeking refuge with the Almighty. Purity and sincerity takes one into the heights of the sky; but whoever de-synchronizes and associates anything with Unity he will instantly fall from the Sky
They remain incessantly upright and sincere for Allah the Exalted; they are the opposite of those who associate partners with Him the Exalted.
Take note; if someone ascribes and associates partners with Allah the exalted
Thereupon, he is only like a person who has fallen from the heights of the Sky;
Whereby the birds swoop for avulsion upon him;
Or the wind blows carry him to a far-off place.
Except academic translations of legal documents and discourses, a translation of non-fiction book is the perception and understanding of a translator about the source text. It is, thereby, but subjective since his effort is restricted to his acquired level of information and understanding by that point in time about various subjects discussed in the book. Since the level of information and knowledge keeps expanding, therefore, the understanding and thereby the translation of an individual of 7-20th century was certainly based upon the perceptions and understandings of people in those times. For us in the 21st century, such translations are merely opinions, scholarship of individual translator notwithstanding.
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Secondly, the need for acquiring skill for real-time translation is for reason that Grand Qur'aan is alive in time and space. It is declared as "Infallible Discourse", a miscellany of facts for all times. Therefore, barring a truly academic translation, all translations of the past will become redundant-obsolete for successive generations in timeline. However, its characteristic feature; "Infallible Discourse" and declaration about its contents as absolutely void of peeving substance suspicious, conjectural, whimsical, conflicting, ambiguous, anomalous, irrational, un-certain, illusory, unsubstantiated, incongruous, biased and opinionated matter, renders it understandable for readers of any point of timeline.
Quite many people have translated the text of Grand Qur'aan for various motivations, considerations and intentions, good as well as bad, in timeline. Detailed account can be seen in World Bibliography of The Translations of The Meanings of The Holy Qur'an (Istanbul, OIC Research Center, 1986), Most of these are available on line. It is worldwide known fact that the first translations to English were not undertaken by the believers in Qur'aan. During 231 year period from 1649 to 1904 only four English translations were produced, all four by scholars who had their identity as Christians.
1649 Alexander Ross The Alcoran of Mahmet Quote from Wikipedia One of Ross's most significant accomplishments, published in the same year as the beheading of the king, was his complete translation of the Qur'an into English. Although he knew no Arabic and only poorly translated L'Alcoran de Mahomet, the 1647 French translation of Du Ryer, his translation was the first in English, and his influence faintly lingers in latter-day translations down to the present.
1734 George Sale The Koran The first scholarly translation of the Qur'an based primarily on the Latin translation of Louis Maracci (169 George Sale's translation was to remain the most widely available English translation over the next 200 years, and is still in print today, with release of a 2009 edition
1861 John Medow Rodwell The Koran
1880 Henry Edward Palmer The Qur'an
The fact remains that no attempt was ever made for the academic translation of Grand Qur'aan. Moreover, it is an undeniable and unfortunate fact that just few scholars attempted translating the Grand Qur'aan in their respective target language directly from its Arabic text. Thanks to computer and internet technology, it is now easy to see the majority of translations on one page. This blessing of technology has highlighted a dismal image of saddening effect; when we see many translations on one page we find more plagiarism than original work. Majority merely "re-translated", or "reproduced" already available translations; particularly that of George Sale and John Rodwell, with slight difference of sentence structuring, and replacements by synonyms and synonymous words of the same language. The conspicuous difference will be noticed only about additions of sectarian biases. The fact of reliance upon such translations becomes glaring in later translations when we find such opinions; which otherwise seem irrational, illogical and even ridiculous on face value, were plagiarized.
Why is it necessary to acquire skill for real-time translation of Grand Qur'aan when more than hundred translations are readily available?