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-=[ Correction/Modification to FM Translation of AlQuraan ]=-

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    runninglikezebras
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    Bump

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      runninglikezebras
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      I consider the refusal to remove the injected 'shahwatan' in the translation of 2929 as proof this website is cherry-picking which hadith-contamination to remove and which one to keep. Clearly the admins of this board worship a God which they have attributed homophobia to. I can tell you that is not the God I worship.

      Good luck with your reformist homophobic version of Islam. Don't expect anymore contributions from me though.

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        si_di
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        Don't rush runninglikezebra,

        Maybe theadmins are busy you have to wait till someone giving answers cause its Holiday time.

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          runninglikezebras
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          I don't feel I'm rushing. I've seen admins active many times since the time I posted this. Not one of them bothered to respond to my suggestion. They are clearly evading this topic. If not, then they could easily post a message stating why they object, whether they agree, if they need more time etc. None of that has happened so far. If they don't agree then let's hear the refutation. So far I can only determine my request is being totally ignored.

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            si_di
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            They have also didn't answered my Version of q-t-l in 254;

            I am sure they will answer you thats what quran is teaching us to help each other and i dont think they evading your Topic.We don't have to Forget that the hole world can read here and i think they are careful with giving Statements of quranic themes which are not easy to understand for maintream outthere.Just wait Runniglikezebra

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              savage_carrot
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              Runninglikezebras,

              The people who are responsible for the way it is etc are not the admins of this forum except for Layth as far as I know. You could send Layth a message/email with a link to your analysis or something. Next time if you'd prefer a quicker response or a specific response etc, please send a PM since we don't really read all the threads whenever we log in, and it's quite possible we may miss posts.

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                savage_carrot
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                si di...just send Layth a PM/email with the link. Not sure if he's active much however, so perhaps an email may be better.

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                  runninglikezebras
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                  I did so, still awaiting a response.

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                    Layth
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                    Salam / Peace,

                    Sorry for my delayed response.

                    The Monotheist Translation has been a work in progress for over 10 years now with constant amendments/improvements when errors or misinterpretations have been detected - I would ask that the rhetoric be toned down as we are servants of the Almighty until the day we die (God willing).

                    I have looked into the matter and the argument of the translation of 2929 being inaccurate does hold water.

                    The word "sexually" and "highway robbery" are indeed in error.

                    I would amend to "You approach the males, and you sever the way, and you bring vice into your place." But the only response from his people was to say "Bring us the retribution of God, if you are being truthful!

                    P.S. to show you how easy it is to make an error, you used the word "God" in your suggested translation which is not in the Arabic text.

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                      runninglikezebras
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                      Thank you Layth,

                      I apologize for my impatience and rudeness in this matter. I hope you can find the kindness to forgive me in your heart. I regret and feel embarrassed about causing such a scene.

                      Peace

                      ps the word God may not be in it explicitly though in many other verses "l-sabla" refers to Gods path/Gods ways as I pointed out in other topics I posted on this issue. I can find peace in your translation however it allows even that interpretation of Gods path. It does not obstruct that understanding. I like your translation even better as it both allows the interpretations for obstructing Gods path and the obstruction of Lut and his visitors.

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                        Salam all,

                        I have uploaded the latest revision of "The Qur'an - A Monotheist Translation" in the link below.

                        Kindly review if you have any comments/observations that can be factored in before the revised file is sent to the publisher this Monday.

                        http//free-minds.org/sites/default/files/quran.pdf

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                          runninglikezebras
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                          Salam,

                          I would either change the title to "The Qur'an - A Monotheist Homophobic Translation"

                          or

                          remove the references to homosexuality in the index.

                          Peace.

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                            FreedomStands
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                            Salam,

                            I would either change the title to "The Qur'an - A Monotheist Homophobic Translation"

                            or

                            remove the references to homosexuality in the index.

                            Peace.

                            Are you a homosexual by chance?

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                              runninglikezebras
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                              Pretty shameless question, but I will still answer it. No, I'm not homosexual, I'm heterosexual. I'm one of those that sees the fallacy in thinking God is so narrow-minded to judge people based on a sexual orientation.

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                                Can you please render malaikatu and all the other quranic words were "angels" are put as "powerful energies"

                                That's what malaikatu are, powerful energies created by the THE GOD.

                                My proof would be the fact this word is consistent from the root mim lam kaf in having "powerful/possessing ascribed to it, and let's face it angels and cherubs are in which books?

                                Anything along those lines I think people would agree?

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                                  runninglikezebras
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                                  Hi Nonmushirk,

                                  I agree "powerful energies" or "controllers" is the meaning of the word. Although I don't object to the use of the word Angel. To me that's exactly what angels are. See my post on the analogy between electrons/angels.

                                  Peace

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                                    runninglikezebras
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                                    During my translation work, I noticed the freeminds quran curiously translates Quran into revelation in

                                    4144 And had We made it a non-Arabic revelation, they would have said "If only its verses were made clear!" Non-Arabic and Arabic, say "For those who believe, it is a guide and healing. As for those who disbelieve, there is deafness in their ears, and they are blind to it. These will be called from a place far away."

                                    Is there any reason to translate http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=61978 into revelation instead of a literal translation of Quran? I have seen this "concealing" of the literal translation in other translations as well, most likely to avoid the inconsistency of a Quran that is in the process of being revealed while referring to itself as an already written text.

                                    This part is very poorly translated as well " Non-Arabic and Arabic, say " Which is incorrect since that part of the verse is still interrogative!

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                                      runninglikezebras
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                                      Bump.

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                                        Wakas
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                                        into revelation instead of a literal translation of Quran?

                                        A literal translation would be "reading/recitation" not "Quran".

                                        This part is very poorly translated as well " Non-Arabic and Arabic, say " Which is incorrect since that part of the verse is still interrogative!

                                        http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=41&verse=44#(41441)

                                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                          runninglikezebras
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                                          What use have candles and glasses when the owl refuses to see?

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