Prayed but forgot ablution
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Peace hicham9
Tomorrow( I will finish my sentence) in front of GOD we are going to be asked about our claims! yes all of us.
So I would not worry too much.
GOD bless you.
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No. It is not without evidence. I have discussed it before.
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Wait until I have deciphered 443 and 56 and we will see what kind of ablution before a ritual it talks about.
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To my knowledge, ablution is not an obligatory preparation before prayer/supplication.
However, most likely, ablution (based on Qur'an 56) is standard preparation before performing SALAT.Salm.
SLM my sister,
Can you please tell me what a Conditional Sentence is ( ة?
And while you are at it, you might want to highlight the difference between "SALAT" and 'prayer'?
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SLM my sister,
Can you please tell me what a Conditional Sentence is ( ة?
And while you are at it, you might want to share with us the difference between "SALAT" and 'prayer'?
Thank you for the questions, brother.
Looks like I need time if I want to post decent answers for both questions.
I'm still learning about SALAT,
and one of my current opinions is SALAT is not equal with prayer/supplication (the action of asking/begging for something to GOD with earnestly and humbly).
Salm.
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uote from Man of Faith on September 26, 2014, 010706 AM
It is so tragic to see the salat deception runs so deep...
Quote from hafeez kazi on September 26, 2014, 022149 AM
Yes, indeed it is a deception but not for me, you and like minded people.This unevidenced claim is just plain silly
traditional salat reciting surah fateha plus any other small surah from the Quran, praising Allah in ruku and sujud three times and tahiyyat and salam at the end of salat.
Does your above salat COMMANDS you? IF not then your RITUAL ROBOTIC SALAT is deceiving you.
They said, "O Shu'ayb, does your SALAT COMMANDS you that we should leave what our fathers worship or not do with our wealth what we please? Indeed, you are the forbearing, the discerning!" (11 87)
I will give more EVIDENCE OF DECEPTION if you prove that your ritual salat COMMANDS YOU.
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Salat is a form of light one is in and Shuayb is in it. Hence the question from his people. But people still stubbornly clings onto the deception it is a braindead ritual.
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Such method is not congruent with SALAT in the Qur'an.
Because the traditional salat was fabricated by mindless people
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May you be spiritually whole,
Since many people pressure me about salat and (ab)using the claim of the so-called ablution to counter-argue my statements, I have made an early interpretation of 56 given new light and also my latest of insights into innate meanings of Arabic letters. It is the first time I make public a translation partially based on inferences of words based solely on deriving them out of the Arabic letters. Important to know is that I have by no means intentionally changed words to suit my agenda, but I follow the descriptive expression that Arabic words form using the letters it is composed it, and I have sometimes cross-checked with 'Corpus Qur'an' and noticed they may imply as alternatives the same meaning as I have conveyed. I am also of the opinion that Arabic words have only one literal meaning although it may vary slightly based on the context, but the mental image of movement or condition always remain.
I am aware of the fact that the translation "creates" a completely different passage as traditionally perceived which may come as a shock for people. Obviously this translation may need to be taken into consideration with all the other work I have put down on questions like 'salat' and its true meaning. The phrases of "QUYUM ASSALAT" in my world means to stay in the light, which may ought to be taken allegorically, but which should not prove particularly difficult to figure out what it means in the context of this narration.
I am also aware of the fact that some people may laugh or shake their heads, frown and turn away. No translation choice is just taken out of thin air, but is either inferred based on combination of letters or a word's alternative meanings based on the 'Corpus Quran' website, but sometimes I have chosen completely different translation where I find the usual one faulty.
56 to those who are of one if mindful on that Light without losing that spirit turned on you and be your deeds on modesty and be of good spirit with your soul and be you humanly on the followers and be it should they stay away without right foundation and hence they be of dark foundation and thus on a spirit without foundation and thus shown/presented good behavior/"how to be good" from you from "gone right" and thus sought to be of the spiritual ones without possessing of be having intention ascend to become right without being a goodly person in turning to you and your hands from it of is intends God to make for you of how to be/behave and to cause intend to (make) you right and to complete His/Her/Its blessings/gifts for you that you become appreciative ones
As you may notice none of the words ghusl, nisaa, salat etc, have their traditional translation above. That nisaa refers to woman is probably one of the biggest scams I have ever seen. Ghusl may imply to make something disappear (traditionally wash), but it is highly spiritual, and the 'fe' (ف prior to the word gives negative remark, i.e. do not. There are also many grammatical adjustments that is not of traditional scholarly and sectarian origin but only due to my own research.
Apart from this; take a sincere look on traditional translations of 2238 and surrounding passages and think for yourself if this can talk about a ritual. To not make it awfully dull I cut it from 2224 and onwards up to 2242.
2224 And do not make God the subject of your casual oaths. Be pious and righteous and reconcile among the people; and God is Hearer, Knower.
2225 God will not call you to account for your casual oaths, but He will call you to account for what has entered your hearts. God is Forgiving, Compassionate.
2226 For those who abstain from their wives, they shall be given four months. If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Merciful.
2227 And if they insist on the divorce, then God is Hearer, Knowledgeable.
2228 And those divorced shall wait for three menstruation periods; and it is not lawful for them to conceal what God has created in their wombs, if they believe in God and the Last Day. And their husbands would then have just cause to return together, if they both wish to reconcile. And the obligations owed to them are to be fulfilled, as are the obligations owed by them. But the men will have a greater responsibility over them in this. And God is Noble, Wise.
2229 The divorce is allowed twice. So, either they remain together equitably, or they part ways with goodness. And it is not lawful for you to take back anything you have given them unless you fear that they will not uphold the boundaries of God. So if you fear that they will not uphold the boundaries of God, then there is no sin upon them for what is given back. These are the boundaries of God so do not transgress them. And whoever shall transgress the boundaries of God, then these are the wicked.
2230 So if he divorces her again, then she will not be lawful for him until after she has married a different husband; if he divorces her; then there is no sin that they come back together if they think they will uphold the boundaries of God. These are the boundaries of God, He clarifies them for a people who know.
2231 And if you have divorced the women, and they have reached their required interim period, then either you remain together equitably, or part ways equitably. And do not reconcile with them so you can harm them out of animosity; whoever does so is doing wrong to his soul; and do not take the revelations of God as mockery. And remember the blessings of God upon you, and what was sent down to you of the Book decree and the wisdom, He warns you with it. And be aware of God and know that God is knowledgeable of all things.
2232 And if you divorce the women, and they reach their required interim period, then do not make difficulty for them if they wish to remarry their husbands if they have amicably agreed among themselves out of what is best. This is to remind any of you who believe in God and the Last Day, this is better for you and purer; and God knows while you do not know.
2233 And the divorced mothers are allowed to suckle their children two full years, if they wish to complete the suckling. And the man for whom the child is born is responsible for both their provisions and clothing equitably. A soul is not burdened except with what it can bear. No mother shall be harmed because of her child, nor shall a father be harmed because of his child. And for the guardian is the same requirement. So if they wish to separate out of mutual agreement and counsel, then there is no sin upon them. And if you want to hire nursing mothers, then there is no sin upon you if you return what you have been given equitably. And be aware of God, and know that God is watching over what you do.
2234 And for those of you whose lives are terminated and they leave widows behind, then their widows will have a required interim period of four months and ten. So when they reach their required interim, then there is no sin upon you for what they do with themselves in goodness. And God is Expert to what you do.
2235 And there is no sin upon you if you openly propose marriage to the women, or you keep it between yourselves. God knows that you will be thinking about them, but do not meet them secretly, unless you have something righteous to say. And do not finalize the marriage contract until the book interim is reached. And know that God knows what is in your souls, so be aware of Him, and know that God is Forgiving, Compassionate.
2236 There is no sin upon you if you divorce the women before having sexual intercourse with them, or before setting the dowry for them. Let them have recompense, the rich according to his means, and the poor according to his means. A recompense in kindness, a responsibility for the good doers.
2237 And if you divorce them before having sexual intercourse with them, but you have already set the dowry for them; then you must give half of what you have agreed, unless they forgive or the guardian over the marriage contract forgives. And if you forgive, it is closer to righteousness. And do not forget the favor between you; God is Seer of what you do...
2238 ...Maintain the contact prayers; and the middle contact prayer; and stand for God dutifully...
2239 ...But if you are fearful, then you may do so while walking or riding. If you become secure, then remember God as He has taught you what you did not know...
2240 ...And for those of you whose lives are terminated and they leave widows behind; a testimony to them that they may enjoy for one year without being made to vacate. If they leave then there is no sin upon you for what they do with themselves of goodness; and God is Noble, Wise.
2241 And for those divorced to have a recompense is an obligation upon the righteous.
2242 It is such that God clarifies for you His revelations that you may comprehend.Why in the world would God insert a passage about a ritual right in the middle of a context speaking about behavior and deeds. It is because they do not speak of a ritual but rather speaks of staying in the light after God has guided them straight. When is it time for people to open up their eyes to the day? And how deceived they have been by thousand years of falsehood.
Do you not see how misfit the two passages are in this erroneously interpreted way?
Be of one with God
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Also; be aware that my translation of 56 quite well goes together with surrounding passages
Passages prior to 53 in the chapter I consider so grossly misinterpreted that I do not paste them here.
53 Forbidden to you is that which is already dead, and the blood, and the meat of pig, and what was dedicated to other than God, and that which has been strangled, and that which has been beaten to death, and that which has fallen from a height, and that which has been gored, and that which the wild animals have eaten from except what you managed to rescue, and what has been slaughtered on altars, and what you divide through arrows of chance. This is vile. Today the rejecters deluded have given up from your system, so do not be concerned by them, but be concerned by Me. Today I have perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have approved submission as the system for you. So, whoever is forced by severe hunger and not seeking sin, then God is Forgiving, Merciful.
54 They ask you what was made lawful to them, say ?All the good things have been made lawful for you, and what the trained dogs and birds catch, you teach them from what God teaches you.? So eat from what they have captured for you and mention the name of God upon it, and be aware of God. God is swift in reckoning.
55 Today, the good things have been made lawful to you, and the food of those who have been given the Book decree is lawful for you, and your food is lawful for them; and the independent females from those who are believers, and the independent females from those who have been given the Book decree before you, if you have given them their dowries, to be independent, not for illicit sex or taking lovers. And whoever rejects belief is deluded/lacks judgment, then his work has fallen, and in the Hereafter he is of the losers.
56 See previous post
57 And remember the blessings of God over you and His covenant that He has bound you with, for which you have said ?We hear and obey,? and be aware of God; for God knows what is in the chests.
58 O you who believe, stand for God and be witnesses for justice, and let not the hatred towards a people make you avoid being just. Be just, for it is closer to righteousness, and be aware of God. God is expert over what you do.
59 God has promised those who believe and do good works that they will have forgiveness and a great recompense.Be of one with God
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Peace All.
So many times throughout history people fall for false claims and personal opinions!!!!
Remember ,on what authority do the claimant/s base their claims? Are they GOD s messengers? Where are their "Bayinat"?
Each one should make sure they do not follow "others" blindly? That is called "idolworship"!!!
If one has been authorised by GOD to deliver His message ,then they need to fulfil the criteria of Qoran.
Personal translations/opinions are just that, personal, if you follow them without checking GOD s scripture ,you are led astray?
Those who received the scripture rejoice in what was revealed to you; some others may reject parts of it. Say, "I am simply enjoined to serve/ worship God, and never associate any idols with Him. I invite to Him, and to Him is my ultimate destiny.
We revealed these laws in Arabic, and if you ever acquiesce to their wishes, after this knowledge has come to you, you will have no ally, nor a protector, against God.
Let whoever wants to claim whatever do so. Make sure you check for yourself. They are not responsible for you and you are not responsible for them.
Let whoever has decided to practice rituals do so because they have checked and let whoever thinks there are no rituals follow their decision.
GOD clarifies with His messengers and scripture. That is the only authority allowed by GOD.
Only GOD guides to His path.
GOD bless you all.
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Well, we can always discuss who comes with personal opinions and who does not. Rituals are not forbidden, but also not commanded by God. They are human customs and traditions used in these practices associated in the reverence of God.
God is the teacher yes, but that does not hinder that people may know things and say it out loud in the light of God.
I am not speaking out personal opinions but I have been interpreting an old scripture according to my understanding in the light of God and not in the light of somebody else. Logic is involved as well which obviously been lacking for the thousands of years when people have tried to understand the phenomenon of God.
And I also asked people to answer to why 2238 as a ritual-encouraging passage is (mis)placed right in the middle of a completely different topic, i.e. first talk about being a goodly person and then suddenly turn to rituals and then back to the topic again, not to mention the linguistic shortcomings of the usual translations.
Be of one with God
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5-6, spells out,
you are in clean state, but have to wadu every time before every salat
you are in clean state, but cant find water, you can salat without wadu.
you are in dirty state, four conditions,(listed) wadu will suffice to purify yourself before salat,
you are in dirty state, four conditions, and you cant find water to carry out wadu, but this time no concession granted to you, You have to carry out some kind of cleansing with clean dry soil.
you are in extremely dirty state , janaba , which is you are in after sexual intercourse resulting into discharge of semen, wadu is not enough , you have to take a bath,
you are in a janaba state,you cant pray untill and unless you take a complete body bath, salat prohibited
if you are travelling and get into janaba state, and unable to take a bath due to any reason, a concession is granted in 4-43( illa abri sabeelin) to you, and you can go ahead with salat, do the wadu or if no water do the tayammam at least.
(4-43 explains what is taharoo" in 5-6 by stating, "that taharoo by Ghusal", in addition ,4-43 also adds an exception for a traveler to perform salat in janaba state if he cant find water)
above is what quran says regarding wadu , nothing more nothing less,
peace
siki
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Assalam aleykum.
If you paryed (maybe severel times) and then remembered that you forgot to do ablution (wudu or ghusl) should you redo your prayer?
I know there is a lot of information about this in the internet and almost everyone say that your prayers then invalid and you must redo them.
But i did not see any proof for that. On the contrary there are a lot of hadiths when you do something wrong in prayer, for example if you turn to right dirrection or even forget rakaahs, you don't have to redo your prayers.
And also does not Quran says "Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget or fall into error" 2286.Please if you have any hadith when our prophet (sas) said to redo prayers if you forget ablution please post it.
Thank you all.
P.S.
Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said, ?Allah does not accept any Prayer if a person breaks his wudu?, until he does wudu??
This hadith does not say anything about forgeting ablution. If you insist that it does and you should understand it letteraly, then what if you break your wudu but did not notice, then your prayers will not be accepted as you have to understand the hadith litteraly.Also there is a hadith about fasting during ramadan. When you forgot and it something then it is as if Allah (awt) had feed you, and your fast is not broke and you do not have to fast extra for that day. Is this not another reason that you do not have to redo your prayers if you forgot ablution.
If you forget a thing and then remember, ask for forgiveness and amend.
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Say O My servants who exceeded all bounds against themselves, despair not of the mercy of God. Truly, God forgives all impieties. Truly, He is The Forgiving, The Compassionate.